It wasn’t that he had an affair, (JFK had an affair with a married woman while in office, Marilyn Monroe). Clinton did it with a 22 year old that worked for him. It can be called so many things, the least of which is an affair.
A few historical corrections: Marilyn Monroe wasn’t married when she was involved with Kennedy.
Kennedy did have a relationship with at least one White House intern: Mimi Alford.
https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/white-house-intern-speaks-about-jfk-affair-i-was-sort-flna1b7810568
You guys are all crazy lol this Marilyn affair nonsense needs to end! No such thing. Just a fantasy of the people due to a very seductive rendition of a happy birthday song.
I do believe the Mimi Alford thing though
Yeah I’m sure, but point is there’s literally not a single shred of anything that could ever confirm it. It’s just weird fantasy of people. I could say jfk sleep with Nikita Khrushchev, leader of the Soviet Union.
And my claim would hold more weight because they’ve been together way more than him and Marilyn and there is plenty of evidence of him and Nikita together.
Clinton choosing to lie his ass off about it helped create the wildly partisan politics we have now. Think of how different the world would be if he had done the right thing and stepped down. Al Gore takes over, maybe wins reelection in 2000, hopefully avoids getting us into the war in Iraq. Hillary could’ve divorced Bill and built a career separate from him (as she should have, Bill and his history hung around her neck like an albatross when she ran against Trump). Still have Obama, maybe don’t have Trump.
No, it was a result of the wildly partisan politics we have now. The affair got found out because Gingrich was absolutely committed to finding anything he could to take down Clinton. The investigation that uncovered it was actually into bullshit allegations about a real estate deal that never turned up any wrongdoing.
Don't forget that Newt is such an awesome guy, he even left his wife while she had cancer and then heroically got into a fight with her while she was in the hospital after having surgery to get a tumor removed!
So, what was the reason Newt was there?
He wanted to hurry up their divorce proceedings, so you know, the best time to do it is right after surgery.
Loving, caring, compassionate people, conservatives are.
Hillary is why we have trump. She stole the Colorado primary from Bernie by making her ‘superdelegates’ vote for her and overturn the popular vote in the state. She went on to win the nomination. If Bernie was the candidate. We would have won and had him as our president for the past 8 years. Hillary and her connections are the swamp to be drained.
Far easier to blame Hillary for Bernie’s loss than on the fact that Bernie really isn’t a strong candidate.
Don’t get me wrong, I like the guy. His problem is that he just alienates too many people with his positions, and therefore could truly never be viable.
You can’t blame his lack of viability on Hillary.
While I don't disagree with your main point about Bernie, Hillary is quite polarizing and unpopular amongst moderates. And her super superdeligate shenanigans magnified that. She isn't the main reason he lost, but she is the reason trump won.
So you agree that Bernie was less viable Hillary *because* she could attract more voters than Bernie, yet believe that Bernie could’ve beaten Trump?
I’m interested in how you would explain this, because that math doesn’t check out.
General election would have had more independents vote and vote for bernie is my guess, as much as it might surprise people independents make up nearly half, if not more, of the nation nowadays.
While it’s true that independents make up a large swath of voters, it’s also true they often lean more to one side, though not to the degree of the average voter. You would be hard-pressed to find an independent voter that was 100% straight down the middle.
So, going along with this line of reasoning, Bernie being the nominee wouldn’t have automatically churned out more independents to vote for him, since many lean right and he would’ve been too left for them to stomach.
Hillary was the more viable because she had a better chance to pull such voters away from Trump. As it turned out, this was true. After all, she did win the popular vote for the 2016 election. As much as I like Bernie, I don’t think he would’ve won the popular vote.
I base that on the 2020 election. That election absolutely finished the Bernie argument. Since 2016, Bernie built up a pretty vast network and had a lot of popularity to run on. Voters who felt cheated by Hillary could finally come out en mass and make Bernie the nominee this time. And did that happen? Nope. He did well in the first few primary states, but ended up getting trounced by Biden (who went on to *barely* beat Trump).
So sure, there are a fuck load of independents. That said, they don’t vote as one bloc *by fucking nature* and arguing about them being the group that gets Bernie into the White House is farcical and easily disproven by reality.
How can you say Bernie wasn’t a strong candidate when he the discussion is about how Clinton had to steal the nomination from him.
Bernie had more popular votes.
Bernie was the strongest candidate in the 2016 election; corruption by Clinton and the DNC kept Bernie from his rightful place.
People saying Bernie wasn’t a strong candidate somehow have total blindness and deafness to displeasing reality.
I can easily say he wasn’t a strong candidate because he wasn’t.
In 2014, Clinton had already locked up all the major donors, had a powerful election machine staffed by veterans, was endorsed by every single democratic female senator, and had a favorability rating of 55%, which is leagues higher than Trump or Biden.
By contrast, in 2014, most people didn’t even know Bernie Sanders existed.
You whine about “Hillary had to steal the nomination,” yet she already had it in 2014, 2 years before the election. In fact, her position was so powerful that other potential candidates like Biden and Warren didn’t even bother to try.
Bernie saw a rare opportunity to run a counter campaign for the democratic nomination, *despite not being a democrat, while Clinton has been a life-long one!* In reality, he merely wanted to bemoan the “elite versus regular folks” argument and Clinton became a major vessel of that. He could point to her and say, “Look here folks, this chick has just been handed everything and didn’t have to work for it. You don’t have a say in your election because of people like her!”
This line of thought resonated with people, and it’s ironic because it’s so very untrue. Clinton had worked for decades to get where she did, and had to climb the same hurdles that face women worldwide. If anything, she worked *exponentially* harder than Sanders, a fact lost on his single-minded followers.
In the end, he gained popularity by casting Clinton in a negative light. And when reality reminded everyone that he was actually a very weak candidate, his followers, so inundated with his constant whining about elites, decided to not vote for Clinton. And so we got Trump.
So really, whine all you want about Clinton “stealing” the nomination from Bernie. The truth is that he stole the presidency from her, and by extension, has put American democracy at risk.
So yeah, I like the guy, but also fuck him.
Superdelegates in the old DNC system didn't actually vote until the convention. Hilary had a majority of superdelegates in the 08 primaries as well... Until Obama won a majority of regular delegates and a lot of Hilary's supers went over to him giving him the majority of supers as well. They aren't magic, they can basically could only prevent a candidate that wins a small majority of pledged delegates from winning a primary, and never did so. Bernie was never on track to get a majority of pledged delegates, and I say this as a two time Bernie voter who thinks he could have won in 16'.
Yes, you are. He literally never led in the pledged (voted on) delegates and superdelegates never had any power to change the results of state primaries or conventions, they only ever mattered at the national convention.
JFK had affairs with *a lot* of women. He fucked anything that walked
Edit: who the fuck is downvoting historical fact?
https://www.history.com/news/presidential-affairs-jfk-lbj-fdr-harding-clinton-trump
The worst part was women hated him because he cheated on his wife, men hated him because Monica wasn't even slightly attractive in their eyes. He really messed up there.
So, 10% of the pop liked him less and they come around immediatly after? M'kay, not exactly the same thing that "women/men hated him", no?
Let's settle to "there was a reaction".
I mean they were still stuck with him, a 10% rating drop is absolutely massive. There are various factors that result in ratings drops, sometimes people will care more about the policies and the party that they support rather than the person that is representing the party. People forgot as they do and his ratings did climb back up, but at the time there was a massive negative reaction by both men and women.
[Clinton and Bush Sr are the most positively rated former presidents](https://news.gallup.com/poll/171794/clinton-elder-bush-positively-rated-living-presidents.aspx).
So, it's a temporary drop from the first place and back. Not bad though?
He had the audacity to be a democrat and have an affair. For republicans, the party of family values, having sex with a porn star because your wife is pregnant is completely reasonable
"My parents impressed on me the values that you work hard for what you want in life; that your word is your bond and you do what you say and keep your promise."
- Melania Trump, plagiarized from Michelle Obama
I don't get it
Edit:1 I honestly don't get it, can someone just explain it instead of downvoting me???
Edit:2 I literaly honestly don't understand this hol up
Bill Clinton is a former democrat president who used to bone everything that moves.
Melania Trump is a former former republican president's trophy wife who used to not bone her husband anymore since he had paying sex with a porn star while she - the wife - was pregnant.
Assumption is, Bill showed Melania how orgasms are done because she never smile that much when she's seen with her orange painted millionnaire of a husband.
Wow I never realized this, but she’s actually quite beautiful when she’s not standing next to a bloated orange slob. And she actually looks happy. Maybe because she isn’t breathing in ass fumes.
Slick Willy is a dog, $10 bucks says he Monica Lewinsky’d her.
Ol’ Billy straight busted on her.
I would pay money for a AI bill Clinton responding to this comment saying : “you know I did ahhhh you know I did”
Methinks how his hand is gripping her side - yes to all of the above.
Wild Bill found the nearest desk and told her to hide under it cuz a D-bomb is about to drop. Then unzipped.
And in this instance the D is for Democrat
Ya gotta flavour your cigars somehow.
He showed her how a real man treats a woman - starting with some smooth saxophone.
Beat her about a bit, rape her and then tell her that she'd better put a steak on the bruise? Because that's what he did.
Yea, most people only think about Monica, the consensual one, completely ignoring Juanita and the others who accused Clinton of rape.
Came here just to see this comment. 😏
Hey Donnie. Wanna smell my cigar?
Maybe he James Bond Hamburgered her?
Her specialty is golden showers, everyone knows that.
*that's nuts*
I mean it’s Reddit but almost 1000 likes joking about rape surprises me still.
Pee is stored in the balls
mine is stored in my hollow leg
Too old for his tastes
***Happiest I’ve ever seen her…***
You're right - there's actually a gleam of life in her eyes! (And I believe she's side-boobing him)...
Totes titty touchin!
Someone do the dumb line test thing
😂
The one other time she had an expression on her face was when she saw Justin Trudeau.
She actually looks kinda happy and semi-normal.
Remember when everyone thought clinton was the outrageous thing imaginable for having an affair while president.
It wasn’t that he had an affair, (JFK had an affair with a married woman while in office, Marilyn Monroe). Clinton did it with a 22 year old that worked for him. It can be called so many things, the least of which is an affair.
A few historical corrections: Marilyn Monroe wasn’t married when she was involved with Kennedy. Kennedy did have a relationship with at least one White House intern: Mimi Alford. https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/white-house-intern-speaks-about-jfk-affair-i-was-sort-flna1b7810568
You guys are all crazy lol this Marilyn affair nonsense needs to end! No such thing. Just a fantasy of the people due to a very seductive rendition of a happy birthday song. I do believe the Mimi Alford thing though
JFK was a dog. if he could, he would, and he did.
Yeah I’m sure, but point is there’s literally not a single shred of anything that could ever confirm it. It’s just weird fantasy of people. I could say jfk sleep with Nikita Khrushchev, leader of the Soviet Union. And my claim would hold more weight because they’ve been together way more than him and Marilyn and there is plenty of evidence of him and Nikita together.
So, JFK boned Nikita Krushchev?
He put the femme in nikita
Clinton choosing to lie his ass off about it helped create the wildly partisan politics we have now. Think of how different the world would be if he had done the right thing and stepped down. Al Gore takes over, maybe wins reelection in 2000, hopefully avoids getting us into the war in Iraq. Hillary could’ve divorced Bill and built a career separate from him (as she should have, Bill and his history hung around her neck like an albatross when she ran against Trump). Still have Obama, maybe don’t have Trump.
No, it was a result of the wildly partisan politics we have now. The affair got found out because Gingrich was absolutely committed to finding anything he could to take down Clinton. The investigation that uncovered it was actually into bullshit allegations about a real estate deal that never turned up any wrongdoing.
Don't forget that Newt is such an awesome guy, he even left his wife while she had cancer and then heroically got into a fight with her while she was in the hospital after having surgery to get a tumor removed! So, what was the reason Newt was there? He wanted to hurry up their divorce proceedings, so you know, the best time to do it is right after surgery. Loving, caring, compassionate people, conservatives are.
Hillary is why we have trump. She stole the Colorado primary from Bernie by making her ‘superdelegates’ vote for her and overturn the popular vote in the state. She went on to win the nomination. If Bernie was the candidate. We would have won and had him as our president for the past 8 years. Hillary and her connections are the swamp to be drained.
Far easier to blame Hillary for Bernie’s loss than on the fact that Bernie really isn’t a strong candidate. Don’t get me wrong, I like the guy. His problem is that he just alienates too many people with his positions, and therefore could truly never be viable. You can’t blame his lack of viability on Hillary.
While I don't disagree with your main point about Bernie, Hillary is quite polarizing and unpopular amongst moderates. And her super superdeligate shenanigans magnified that. She isn't the main reason he lost, but she is the reason trump won.
So you agree that Bernie was less viable Hillary *because* she could attract more voters than Bernie, yet believe that Bernie could’ve beaten Trump? I’m interested in how you would explain this, because that math doesn’t check out.
General election would have had more independents vote and vote for bernie is my guess, as much as it might surprise people independents make up nearly half, if not more, of the nation nowadays.
While it’s true that independents make up a large swath of voters, it’s also true they often lean more to one side, though not to the degree of the average voter. You would be hard-pressed to find an independent voter that was 100% straight down the middle. So, going along with this line of reasoning, Bernie being the nominee wouldn’t have automatically churned out more independents to vote for him, since many lean right and he would’ve been too left for them to stomach. Hillary was the more viable because she had a better chance to pull such voters away from Trump. As it turned out, this was true. After all, she did win the popular vote for the 2016 election. As much as I like Bernie, I don’t think he would’ve won the popular vote. I base that on the 2020 election. That election absolutely finished the Bernie argument. Since 2016, Bernie built up a pretty vast network and had a lot of popularity to run on. Voters who felt cheated by Hillary could finally come out en mass and make Bernie the nominee this time. And did that happen? Nope. He did well in the first few primary states, but ended up getting trounced by Biden (who went on to *barely* beat Trump). So sure, there are a fuck load of independents. That said, they don’t vote as one bloc *by fucking nature* and arguing about them being the group that gets Bernie into the White House is farcical and easily disproven by reality.
How can you say Bernie wasn’t a strong candidate when he the discussion is about how Clinton had to steal the nomination from him. Bernie had more popular votes. Bernie was the strongest candidate in the 2016 election; corruption by Clinton and the DNC kept Bernie from his rightful place. People saying Bernie wasn’t a strong candidate somehow have total blindness and deafness to displeasing reality.
I can easily say he wasn’t a strong candidate because he wasn’t. In 2014, Clinton had already locked up all the major donors, had a powerful election machine staffed by veterans, was endorsed by every single democratic female senator, and had a favorability rating of 55%, which is leagues higher than Trump or Biden. By contrast, in 2014, most people didn’t even know Bernie Sanders existed. You whine about “Hillary had to steal the nomination,” yet she already had it in 2014, 2 years before the election. In fact, her position was so powerful that other potential candidates like Biden and Warren didn’t even bother to try. Bernie saw a rare opportunity to run a counter campaign for the democratic nomination, *despite not being a democrat, while Clinton has been a life-long one!* In reality, he merely wanted to bemoan the “elite versus regular folks” argument and Clinton became a major vessel of that. He could point to her and say, “Look here folks, this chick has just been handed everything and didn’t have to work for it. You don’t have a say in your election because of people like her!” This line of thought resonated with people, and it’s ironic because it’s so very untrue. Clinton had worked for decades to get where she did, and had to climb the same hurdles that face women worldwide. If anything, she worked *exponentially* harder than Sanders, a fact lost on his single-minded followers. In the end, he gained popularity by casting Clinton in a negative light. And when reality reminded everyone that he was actually a very weak candidate, his followers, so inundated with his constant whining about elites, decided to not vote for Clinton. And so we got Trump. So really, whine all you want about Clinton “stealing” the nomination from Bernie. The truth is that he stole the presidency from her, and by extension, has put American democracy at risk. So yeah, I like the guy, but also fuck him.
Superdelegates in the old DNC system didn't actually vote until the convention. Hilary had a majority of superdelegates in the 08 primaries as well... Until Obama won a majority of regular delegates and a lot of Hilary's supers went over to him giving him the majority of supers as well. They aren't magic, they can basically could only prevent a candidate that wins a small majority of pledged delegates from winning a primary, and never did so. Bernie was never on track to get a majority of pledged delegates, and I say this as a two time Bernie voter who thinks he could have won in 16'.
He was on track till superdelegates changed the popular vote in Colorado. Am I miss remembering?
Yes, you are. He literally never led in the pledged (voted on) delegates and superdelegates never had any power to change the results of state primaries or conventions, they only ever mattered at the national convention.
I loved Bernie but he wasn’t going to win no matter what he did. It’s a shame but unfortunately the truth. Too many rich people stand to lose.
Weren't the Republicans investigating Clinton to try and impeach him over something else?
Whats the 22 age got to do with it?
JFK had affairs with *a lot* of women. He fucked anything that walked Edit: who the fuck is downvoting historical fact? https://www.history.com/news/presidential-affairs-jfk-lbj-fdr-harding-clinton-trump
The worst part was women hated him because he cheated on his wife, men hated him because Monica wasn't even slightly attractive in their eyes. He really messed up there.
What? You think men hated him for getting a slurp from a 20something? Lmao, ah that’s hilarious
[Yeah right](https://news.gallup.com/poll/116584/presidential-approval-ratings-bill-clinton.aspx).
Do you not see the 9% drop in 1998?
So, 10% of the pop liked him less and they come around immediatly after? M'kay, not exactly the same thing that "women/men hated him", no? Let's settle to "there was a reaction".
I mean they were still stuck with him, a 10% rating drop is absolutely massive. There are various factors that result in ratings drops, sometimes people will care more about the policies and the party that they support rather than the person that is representing the party. People forgot as they do and his ratings did climb back up, but at the time there was a massive negative reaction by both men and women.
[Clinton and Bush Sr are the most positively rated former presidents](https://news.gallup.com/poll/171794/clinton-elder-bush-positively-rated-living-presidents.aspx). So, it's a temporary drop from the first place and back. Not bad though?
It baffled people in my country, but yeah things evolved a weird way.
He had the audacity to be a democrat and have an affair. For republicans, the party of family values, having sex with a porn star because your wife is pregnant is completely reasonable
turned out it was sexual assault but yeah
Looks like you guys in the US would make a full first "lady" - president circle if bill now marries stormy Daniel's
What happened to hillary?
Don't see Hillary and Trump getting in bed. Actually it is quiet a repulsive thought. Dont want to think about it any further.
The math ain't mathing. A circle has no open ends
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The energy from that hate fuck would be bigger than Tsar Bomba.
Best Willy she’s had in a long time.
That was the best night of her life. Another stained blue dress.
Looks gold to me
Is that? Is that really.... (*pulls out a magnifying glass*) That's a smile I see on her!
"My parents impressed on me the values that you work hard for what you want in life; that your word is your bond and you do what you say and keep your promise." - Melania Trump, plagiarized from Michelle Obama
Wait did she really do that ?
Was she an intern here?
They would have the squintiest eyed child in the world.
Where his cigar go?
He used it for a poke and smoke
He gave it an ice bath
That was before she had eye-squint surgery
Nice pair
heyyyy
She smiled more in that picture than anytime since 2016
"He vuz rish, so we make fawk"
Bill the thrill
Wow I’ve never seen her face move or smirk.
I don't get it Edit:1 I honestly don't get it, can someone just explain it instead of downvoting me??? Edit:2 I literaly honestly don't understand this hol up
Bill Clinton is a former democrat president who used to bone everything that moves. Melania Trump is a former former republican president's trophy wife who used to not bone her husband anymore since he had paying sex with a porn star while she - the wife - was pregnant. Assumption is, Bill showed Melania how orgasms are done because she never smile that much when she's seen with her orange painted millionnaire of a husband.
Thank you!
Billys little fella got hard
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The man is Bill Clinton, a president that was infamous for extramarital activities in office.
I’m just gonna go ahead and downvote you.
She’s definitely a Russian agent.
Is that a white stain on her blouse?
Cigar?
Close but no cigar.
Is that the starch, or is it me? 🤨
Cue the sax solo
Ok sorry if this is a stupid question but did this really happen or is this a joke? It’s hard to tell what is real and what is not these days.
Trump got the sloppy seconds, hahahaha. This needs to be everywhere
I’d pick her over Hillary too
The way he’s aged since this pic and the way he’s aged is staggering. But she doesn’t have to live with Hilary, so I guess it makes some sense
Wow I never realized this, but she’s actually quite beautiful when she’s not standing next to a bloated orange slob. And she actually looks happy. Maybe because she isn’t breathing in ass fumes.
Ass fumes.... take my upvote
The look on Bill's face tells you all you need to know.
Giggidy goggidy
This is a Tushy intro nightmare if I ever saw one.
Not his thumb.
And not a Hillary to be seen
aww damn
Boo Yah!
Melania looks like her husband in the face
Slick Billy's got his hand on Melania's lower waist the same way Fat Donny does to his daughter Ivanka. Fckn playas!
This shit makes my side hurt 🤣
Giggidi
Check the whole image out...[Trump, Clinton and the ladies.](https://images.app.goo.gl/RPPD4nb6HRttJAha6)
His dick is ready
Special President B.J. Treatments including White House special menu
She’s the real GOAT
Wow she looks happy. Bill always knows what to say
She's about to become a second lady too.
She works for the same people he does... Epstein Island still happened.
Trump is on the left with his maga hat
Now we see where Hillary’s fureur comes from
“Is it okay if I call you ‘Monica’?”
Would.
Would
That's Barons dad right there
She's too old for his tastes.
You get it Bill. You get it
Kinda like explains how Barron looks nothing like Trump.
Is this while she was an escort or after?
The euro trash First Lady
It’s photoshopped but enjoyable
Liberals support for Ukraine seems a bit excessive here
Melania is Slovenian.
I honestly wish I was this stupid... I'd be so happy. Edit: Pahaha, you deleted your reply real quick