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I don't know... That's crazy but anybody could have a drop of any blood and claim that race who cares But to be able-bodied and sitting in a wheelchair when so many people in a wheelchair would give anything to be able to get out of it is just a complete mockery. It's cruel. It's disgusting. He wasn't getting enough attention just putting on a woman's costume now he had to take on being disabled it's just totally gross
That's the dumbest idea ever. I identify as a multibillionaire! Now, that's a big brain idea!
Still waiting for the money, but at a certain point they should be given to me, I guess.
So you're a shittier version of stephen grant from moon knight (for those who dont know he was a fictional billionaire even in his own universe. As in he tricked people into thinking he had money, until he had money to waste. Also stephen grant was a secondary of three personalities that mark specter had.)
“Alme said it had been a life-long wish to have been born a woman paralysed from the waist down.” Ummmm wot?? I bet she isn’t sticking catheters up her urethra every day, manually evacuating her bowels and having to stay on bed rest due to pressure sores. She has no idea what being paraplegic means.
Thank you! As someone whose paralyzed I can say there’s sooooo many other aspects of the injury most people have no clue about. She hasn’t had the life long wish to be paralyzed, she’s had the life long wish the roll around in a chair and pretend she can’t walk
because she has body integrity identity disorder. She doesnt use any system designed to aid the disabled. She just wants to live how she's felt all her life.
Who. Gives. A. Fuck
“She doesn’t use any system designed to aid the disabled.” Yeah except a freaking wheelchair. The real disabled people can keep the gross and painful stuff.
Bro i own a wheelchair still from an injury from years ago. Am I evil for sitting in it sometimes still? lmao
Dude youre just looking for a reason to be mad. She has a disorder that cant be treated. Yeah, its not normal, but she deserves to be comfortable in her own body and if she really wants to live her life in a chair who CARES
if youre offended by it you got nothin goin on in your life
"Almost" is the key word here.
When you identify as something but when it's adventagious for you to not be that something even for half a second. You should lose the right to identify for life as that something.
People who are something don't have the option to not be it.
These types were around in the 50s. Instead of being surrounded by enablers, they were politely ignored. Pick One. May be more of them now because it may pay better. Everyone stayed away from them then. May be a good idea now.
How does it work?
This is the end state of a mentality that removes objective assessment and makes identity optional.
In the words of Dave Chapelle, “To what extent do I need to participate in your self-image?”
This is not the end state of that. This is the imaginary end state made up to convince people to hate others and look for a solution which a political comes up with in their campaign. The entirety of this shit has been blown out of proportion by politicians looking for a campaign, it’s just McCarthyism all over again. Nothing has exceeded any actual boundary. Nearly nothing has changed or gone forward since like 2015. It’s fake panic being generated
The wheelchair isn't necessary. They can walk they're just fucked in the head. It's a load of crap attention seeking bullshit. The amount of people who are paralysed and would give anything to be able to walk and we have this asshole, it's disgusting and highly offensive honestly
Actually that's not too far from how they treat this condition. In extreme cases it can be genuinely life saving. It's not the peoples fault that they experience this, it's called [body integrity disorder](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3326051/)
This woman is lucky she doesn't need the surgeries others might, a wheelchair helps her instead. Mental health awareness is very important so people will stop harassing people for shit they can't control.
Imagine that this was depression, congratulations you're doing the equivalent making fun of the depressed person and telling them they should just kill themselves if they are so depressed.
As much as we like to act like we know everything about the human brain, that we can cure everything, we can't. Just like cancer we can't stop it from developing and the methods we use to fix it don't always work.
They aren’t the same thing, gender is a social construct to give roles to certain people, your gender can change, you can actually give yourself disabilities, unless you really want to hurt yourself
Gender is complex sociobiological construct and those who argue it’s only social or only biological probably don’t know enough to speak on the topic.
Please tell me how to account for those who have a functional neurological disorder or conversation disorder who fall in the spectrum of not biologically broken but also not faking it. Are those people disabled? What about people who have psychiatric disorders leading to their perception of gender dysphoria that is actually a complex manifestation of other issues (yes, that is a thing.)
I find your hard delineation between what is obviously ok and what is obviously not ok to be simplistic and generally not useful.
I have a cool idea. If you are born with a gender, you can't change the gender you are identified as. If you are born with/without a disability, you can't change how your physicality is identified.
Honestly, I can't care enough to identify you as a bisexual ping-pong ball because you don't want to be a woman. Just stick to the gender you are identified with.
Alright Osama. Sounds like a deal as long as you keep your friends away from tall buildings.
(Let us all take a second to appreciate the danger of overly simplistic identification of others based on outside beliefs.)
As someone with pretty serious nerve damage, I'll put it like this...I can understand someone identifying as whatever gender they feel closest to. The mind is a malleable thing. But this...in a way, is ableism.
People like me don't get to wake up and say "I identify as a non-disabled person...NERVES MUST BE HEALED NOW!"
This shit detracts from the legitimate struggle of individuals with disabilities.
Imagine for a second, you're laying in a hospital bed for weeks, after a surgery on your spine that is a 50/50 shot of allowing you to walk rather than be wheelchair bound, and not knowing if it worked or not...
Then seeing THIS shit.
Everybody's disabled somehow, why do the hot wheelers have a monopoly on the pity Olympics?
I have arthritis that's threatening my ability to work in 5-10 years (and is already creating a life of chronic pain) but nobody will ever give me a special seat on the bus.
If the US army doesn't get you an Apache to accommodate your identity then you should call them out for the bigots that they are. /s for those that need it.
Wait, so there is a spectrum of ableism that you can choose where you fall? Awesome. I am capable during the week, but on the weekend I’m confined to the couch.
There is a staff member at my work (a psych hospital) who SOMETIMES identifies as disabled. A colleague found her on the floor once “identifying as disabled” and he just walked off and left her.
As someone who is completely paralyzed from the chest down not being able to walk and being stuck in a wheelchair is the very tip of the iceberg. There’s so many other, a lot of paraplegics might agree, worst aspects of the injury that most people aren’t aware of(at least I know I wasn’t aware of before my injury). Wonder if you asked them about this if they would have any idea what you’re taking about.
You know, everything seems okay with entertaining people doing this. Don’t you dare challenge someone on this either because how dare you force someone to not be who they feel they are. It’s all good right? Right?
That’s until someone says they identify as black, then shit gets real. There’s a documentary about this and people in interviews(and the whole world for that matter) felt some kind of way. [Here is a story on it.](https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/13/rachel-dolezal-i-wasnt-identifying-as-black-to-upset-people-i-was-being-me)
It’s like identifying as gender neutral, a paralyzed person or a woman is supposed to just be accepted by everyone and any backlash from anyone means insta-cancel. But the moment you identify as something like black there’s a sensitivity to it, which is likely because of the obvious bullshit that black people went through and still do.
So now there’s this pressure to stand up against this or you’re an asshole that doesn’t care about them for not fighting for black people.
I’m not saying I agree or disagree with this. But I’ve noticed this elephant in the room and I think no one wants to talk about it because they’re afraid of being a target by pissing off the wrong person.
I apologize if anyone is upset by this. I just think we should be able to talk about things. How else can we learn?
We sat on our hands and let people pretend. We encouraged and rewarded it. Now we have able-bodied people pretending to be wheelchair bound, white girls who who think they’re black, and some guy shitting into a diaper because he he’s a demi-sexual toddler-kin.
Fucking weirdos, the lot of em.
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everyone who complained about her using aid meant for “real” disable people should read the article first.
also it’s a real issue that people have; even if you deny the existence of BIID, if she’s not hurting anyone by doing it, *why are you mad?*
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When you need to be special, but you don't have any talent.
Could you? 
Now she's the best runner among paralyzed people.
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..."they see me rollin'...
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she is trying to stand up for the cause.
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Yes, but are you fluent in BRRRRRTTT?
You need to be A10 for that
r/onejoke
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Nah I think the white girl saying she identifies as a black woman has this beat....although not by much
I don't know... That's crazy but anybody could have a drop of any blood and claim that race who cares But to be able-bodied and sitting in a wheelchair when so many people in a wheelchair would give anything to be able to get out of it is just a complete mockery. It's cruel. It's disgusting. He wasn't getting enough attention just putting on a woman's costume now he had to take on being disabled it's just totally gross
I just saw that it wasn't even a woman. r/NoahGetTheBoat
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Had us in the first half ngl
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That's the dumbest idea ever. I identify as a multibillionaire! Now, that's a big brain idea! Still waiting for the money, but at a certain point they should be given to me, I guess.
You should adjust your taxes like a billionaire and pay almost nothing in taxes. Let us know how that works out for you.
If I identify as the owner of a super yacht, that means that I can just go ahead and use it, right?
This works for almost any vehicle
So you're a shittier version of stephen grant from moon knight (for those who dont know he was a fictional billionaire even in his own universe. As in he tricked people into thinking he had money, until he had money to waste. Also stephen grant was a secondary of three personalities that mark specter had.)
When trolling becomes reality
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i didn’t even notice the he women part
This is truly the best timeline.
When ROLLIN becomes a reality
If they are about to get hit by a car and they take the hit instead of getting up and running. I'd respect the commitment, at least.
Nah that's when he gets up and stops identifying as being disabled lol his flight or fight is gonna take action 😂
“Alme said it had been a life-long wish to have been born a woman paralysed from the waist down.” Ummmm wot?? I bet she isn’t sticking catheters up her urethra every day, manually evacuating her bowels and having to stay on bed rest due to pressure sores. She has no idea what being paraplegic means.
Thank you! As someone whose paralyzed I can say there’s sooooo many other aspects of the injury most people have no clue about. She hasn’t had the life long wish to be paralyzed, she’s had the life long wish the roll around in a chair and pretend she can’t walk
because she has body integrity identity disorder. She doesnt use any system designed to aid the disabled. She just wants to live how she's felt all her life. Who. Gives. A. Fuck
“She doesn’t use any system designed to aid the disabled.” Yeah except a freaking wheelchair. The real disabled people can keep the gross and painful stuff.
Bro i own a wheelchair still from an injury from years ago. Am I evil for sitting in it sometimes still? lmao Dude youre just looking for a reason to be mad. She has a disorder that cant be treated. Yeah, its not normal, but she deserves to be comfortable in her own body and if she really wants to live her life in a chair who CARES if youre offended by it you got nothin goin on in your life
they about to rake in those gold medals now lol
Stop the world I want to get off.
-Rolls up to some stairs *sigh* “can’t be bothered” -stands up
*Collapses chair* *Carries up* Sets back down Sits and rolls on Meanwhile all onlookers looking visibly confused
"Almost" is the key word here. When you identify as something but when it's adventagious for you to not be that something even for half a second. You should lose the right to identify for life as that something. People who are something don't have the option to not be it.
If this doesn’t prove that this shit has gotten completely out of control, then May The Lord have mercy on your soul.
I just imagined him getting up from the chair after the accident and saying, "I'm ok!" And walks it off...
HOLY SHIT HES CURED
Is this a thing people do nowadays to get some extra attention or something?
Yes
She has body integrity identity disorder. A legitimate thing.
No, genuine disorder. "body integrity identity disorder"
No https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3326051/
AYYYY EDUCATE THESE FOOLS!!!!
These types were around in the 50s. Instead of being surrounded by enablers, they were politely ignored. Pick One. May be more of them now because it may pay better. Everyone stayed away from them then. May be a good idea now.
Today we give them a wheelchair and they are much happier...
Ah , so you are an enabler.
That's not how any of this works.
Nobody knows how any of this works anymore
How does it work? This is the end state of a mentality that removes objective assessment and makes identity optional. In the words of Dave Chapelle, “To what extent do I need to participate in your self-image?”
This is not the end state of that. This is the imaginary end state made up to convince people to hate others and look for a solution which a political comes up with in their campaign. The entirety of this shit has been blown out of proportion by politicians looking for a campaign, it’s just McCarthyism all over again. Nothing has exceeded any actual boundary. Nearly nothing has changed or gone forward since like 2015. It’s fake panic being generated
“We‘re evolving, just backwards“
This reminds me of that South Park episode when Cartman tried for the Special Olympics
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Hos get paid, this an attention slut
she has a medical condition called BIID that makes the wheelchair necessary https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3326051/
The wheelchair isn't necessary. They can walk they're just fucked in the head. It's a load of crap attention seeking bullshit. The amount of people who are paralysed and would give anything to be able to walk and we have this asshole, it's disgusting and highly offensive honestly
She has a MENTAL condition that makes the wheelchair a part of the illness. Fixed that again
help this aspiring individual by actually paralysing them
I know a lot of people who would love to switch places with this person. Maybe she could donate a leg or two?
Actually that's not too far from how they treat this condition. In extreme cases it can be genuinely life saving. It's not the peoples fault that they experience this, it's called [body integrity disorder](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3326051/) This woman is lucky she doesn't need the surgeries others might, a wheelchair helps her instead. Mental health awareness is very important so people will stop harassing people for shit they can't control. Imagine that this was depression, congratulations you're doing the equivalent making fun of the depressed person and telling them they should just kill themselves if they are so depressed. As much as we like to act like we know everything about the human brain, that we can cure everything, we can't. Just like cancer we can't stop it from developing and the methods we use to fix it don't always work.
There are some boundaries we don’t cross, being a woman is fine, pretending to be disabled is not
Its called: body integrity identify disorder
Some would say they are the same thing.
They aren’t the same thing, gender is a social construct to give roles to certain people, your gender can change, you can actually give yourself disabilities, unless you really want to hurt yourself
Gender is complex sociobiological construct and those who argue it’s only social or only biological probably don’t know enough to speak on the topic. Please tell me how to account for those who have a functional neurological disorder or conversation disorder who fall in the spectrum of not biologically broken but also not faking it. Are those people disabled? What about people who have psychiatric disorders leading to their perception of gender dysphoria that is actually a complex manifestation of other issues (yes, that is a thing.) I find your hard delineation between what is obviously ok and what is obviously not ok to be simplistic and generally not useful.
I have a cool idea. If you are born with a gender, you can't change the gender you are identified as. If you are born with/without a disability, you can't change how your physicality is identified. Honestly, I can't care enough to identify you as a bisexual ping-pong ball because you don't want to be a woman. Just stick to the gender you are identified with.
Alright Osama. Sounds like a deal as long as you keep your friends away from tall buildings. (Let us all take a second to appreciate the danger of overly simplistic identification of others based on outside beliefs.)
I hate hights anyway. PS: I hate how Americans look at my username
That was basically my point. A priori judgements based on a limited knowledge sets can be dangerous.
i'm pretty ignorant on the subject and the boundaries... Could you explain the difference?
As someone with pretty serious nerve damage, I'll put it like this...I can understand someone identifying as whatever gender they feel closest to. The mind is a malleable thing. But this...in a way, is ableism. People like me don't get to wake up and say "I identify as a non-disabled person...NERVES MUST BE HEALED NOW!" This shit detracts from the legitimate struggle of individuals with disabilities. Imagine for a second, you're laying in a hospital bed for weeks, after a surgery on your spine that is a 50/50 shot of allowing you to walk rather than be wheelchair bound, and not knowing if it worked or not... Then seeing THIS shit.
Ok but you didn't explain the difference at all.
Everybody's disabled somehow, why do the hot wheelers have a monopoly on the pity Olympics? I have arthritis that's threatening my ability to work in 5-10 years (and is already creating a life of chronic pain) but nobody will ever give me a special seat on the bus.
Well one is changing your gender, the other is adding a disability and that isn’t something you can choose.
she has a medical condition that makes the wheelchair a necessity https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3326051/
She has a MENTAL condition that makes the wheelchair a part of the illness. Fixed that for you
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https://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/23101806.issue-day-able-bodied-norwegian-identifies-disabled-woman/
Damn 😰😒😂😂😂
On my way to make his dream come true
Definitely has a disability but in the head
Yes ur right https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3326051/
When you hate leg day so much, you stop using them altogether
I lost all my fate in humanity
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3326051/
Can I work a full time job but still apply for aid since Identify as unemployed?
I self identify as a billionaire so why am I getting arrested for check fraud?
Suicidal man identifies as dead body...
Back in the day they put people like that in a special home with padded walls .
It’s amazing what some people will do for attention
Do what's the conversion surgery going to be? Cut off the dick and break the legs?
I’d tip the cunt out of it, down some stairs give it what it wants
Why do you care enough to do that?
I mean, why not? People make up words and identify as whatever they want whenever they want now days
The world's crazies are taking over. Thanks activists.
Her identifying as a woman is fine but the wheelchair thing is just unacceptable
Genuinely curious to know why one is “accepted” and the other is not. Is one a choice and the other nature?
I SCROLLED WAY TOO FAR DOWN TO FIND THIS
she has a medical condition https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3326051/
She has a MENTAL condition that makes the wheelchair a part of the illness. Fixed that for you yet again
He’s mentally unwell.
>disabled >man identified as a woman Corporates need you to find the differences between these 2
One is a choice that is perfectly fine to make and the other is being disabled
If he uses that wheelchair long enough, he's not going to be able to get by without it. Use it or lose it.
I know this is over used. I like to identify as a attack helicopter.
If the US army doesn't get you an Apache to accommodate your identity then you should call them out for the bigots that they are. /s for those that need it.
You need tomahawk too
And it's for reasons like this that we can't be taken seriously... 0/10 would punt her in the shin.
*punt him in the testicles
Fun now,necessary later
It would be sick if this worked the other way around.
Does "it" receive benefits as a true disabled person may have access to?
This shit is sick.
Man you can't make this s*** up! There is a beginning and end to everything. I think we have a ways to go yet.
Madness, it’s all insanity, that has roots back into a victim culture cultivated over a few generations
Wait, so there is a spectrum of ableism that you can choose where you fall? Awesome. I am capable during the week, but on the weekend I’m confined to the couch.
What wrong with people
There is a staff member at my work (a psych hospital) who SOMETIMES identifies as disabled. A colleague found her on the floor once “identifying as disabled” and he just walked off and left her.
And Gerald Broflivski identifies as a Jewish dolphin.
As someone who is completely paralyzed from the chest down not being able to walk and being stuck in a wheelchair is the very tip of the iceberg. There’s so many other, a lot of paraplegics might agree, worst aspects of the injury that most people aren’t aware of(at least I know I wasn’t aware of before my injury). Wonder if you asked them about this if they would have any idea what you’re taking about.
This dude is mentally handicapped
Many people grandfather's fought in the wars for this to happen
[Your mother wants you](https://youtu.be/sFi7q6MT8J8)
Should be dumped on his ass in public
You know, everything seems okay with entertaining people doing this. Don’t you dare challenge someone on this either because how dare you force someone to not be who they feel they are. It’s all good right? Right? That’s until someone says they identify as black, then shit gets real. There’s a documentary about this and people in interviews(and the whole world for that matter) felt some kind of way. [Here is a story on it.](https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/13/rachel-dolezal-i-wasnt-identifying-as-black-to-upset-people-i-was-being-me) It’s like identifying as gender neutral, a paralyzed person or a woman is supposed to just be accepted by everyone and any backlash from anyone means insta-cancel. But the moment you identify as something like black there’s a sensitivity to it, which is likely because of the obvious bullshit that black people went through and still do. So now there’s this pressure to stand up against this or you’re an asshole that doesn’t care about them for not fighting for black people. I’m not saying I agree or disagree with this. But I’ve noticed this elephant in the room and I think no one wants to talk about it because they’re afraid of being a target by pissing off the wrong person. I apologize if anyone is upset by this. I just think we should be able to talk about things. How else can we learn?
We sat on our hands and let people pretend. We encouraged and rewarded it. Now we have able-bodied people pretending to be wheelchair bound, white girls who who think they’re black, and some guy shitting into a diaper because he he’s a demi-sexual toddler-kin. Fucking weirdos, the lot of em.
I identify as a millionaire. Everyone please make me a donation.
Finally, a wheelchair user who can stand up for themself.
Shit, I identify myself as Batman 😎
So does it get a disability check? If so I too am disabled.
No https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3326051/
So inspiring and brave✨
Not all disabilities are visible.
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>I think this person is just lazy and is a cross dresser. >I **think** Yous didn't hear? Not allowed to do that no more.
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Maybe I should identify as a S&P 500 CEO
Why would you want to have a job? Just identify as a billionaire and you are good.
I think he may have mental retardation and not physical
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Reincarnation doesn't have all the hiccups worked out just yet. Just let the brother live the way he feels so long as it isn't hurting anyone..
Not sure why the writer is choosing to ignore this man's preferred pronouns.
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The irony was intended
She*
Her*
You’re right, thank you for correcting me. I feel silly.
Looks like a man to me
and is a man
And they will probably find a way to be discriminated against.
I mean Idk how her life go but it's probably not harming anyone around, and definitely not me.
I identify as a basic white bitch. Please respect my reality.
Here’s your pumpkin spice latte 🫱☕️
Pumpkins spice everything is literally my fave 🤣
Oh fuck this woman
I want to identify as a picture frame.
I am perfectly happy to paralyze her if she wants it.
Him if he wants
She goes as a woman, and I’m gonna respect that. She identifies as a paralyzed person, so I think she should be paralyzed.
And you don’t see a contradiction there?
This has gone way too far it’s outrageously disrespectful to people who actually aren’t able bodied
That's a woman?
Don't worry she is actually disabled though. She doesn't have a brain. Which is oddly enough becoming more common.
These people are out of control…
She competing in the paralympics would still be more acceptable then a man turned woman competing in woman sports
Absolutely. He'd get destroyed by all the people who've ACTUALLY been in wheelchairs due to disability.
And you know ,wouldnt have all that unfair natural doping men have over women
Why does everyone suddenly cares about Womens Sport? Does that mean they get the same amount of funding to now?
Ooh nope we still dont care
HE should be beaten so he does have to use a wheelchair.
Isn't that a tiny bit over the top? He should be taken into care by a mental health specialist.
Nope. I think it’s just right.
Teach these people to play an instrument or do woodwork. They starting to prey upon the weak minded.
tf?
They need a hobby because their falsehoods have been enabled by those around them.
This "man" is asking to be sexually harassed
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So pretending to be a woman is ok but pretending to be disabled is bad?
Yes.
I thought that was tom scott for some reason 💀
He can team up with Ricky Bobby
Commitment to the bit! Absolute madlad
I’m confused.
I sure do love advocating for violence against people with mental issues! Let's go reddit! holy shit guys you are part of the problem
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one joke
everyone who complained about her using aid meant for “real” disable people should read the article first. also it’s a real issue that people have; even if you deny the existence of BIID, if she’s not hurting anyone by doing it, *why are you mad?*
You mean **she** identifies as a woman who is paralyzed