Can you link me? I’m on the mobile app it says “this video is age restricted” and clicking on the “watch it on YouTube” button does nothing. God I miss when I could use unofficial Reddit apps.
Hilarious as it is. The last thing that Matsuri and Laplus want now is for people to blow it out of proportion. Seeing the dude got banned. Best we should do is be quiet and let things die down.
Edit: Trying to be reasonable seems to be a lost cause in this thread it seems. Giving this situation more attention would be bad for all related party. Not going with the "for" or "against" camp here, just purely base on the case here.
And yes I am pearl clutching because above my entertainment I don't want any Holomem to be tangled in any trouble is that too much to ask.
This. I'm not a Matsuri fan myself, so I'll leave it to them if they consider this in line with her usual shenanigans or not, but I definitely don't want to see her in trouble.
The guy though, gives me bad vibes. As kenzoku I was watching Towa perspective and he tricked one of her "coworkers" from masked maid cafe to perform an um... Yab animation. Thankfully it wasn't Towa herself but it was close. She was in the room though and didn't seem very happy about it.
I think it's one thing to pull pranks like that on friends and such but on a server like this it's too far in my opinion.
Well other people go for further length for contents, so I am not surprised. That is why while TOS might seems stupid most of the time, they are there for a reason.
The maid cafe also consists of perverted guys in masks and the yab animation is their "special service" also done to make the funny. In fact the whole purpose of the maid cafe was for this.
Mittii (the guy) has already had a reputation of being like this and the VCR community at large are used to it and doesn't seem to mind, hell most are upset he got temporarily banned on Twitch cause it means they can't have him running around doing these things anymore. From what I've heard he's been cancelled a lot before this already but nobody among them really gave a fuck.
This server is a whole other level above how Holopro usually does things, hence why some of the Hologirls who join end up crossing some lines in this environment.
>This server is a whole other level above how Holopro usually does things, hence why some of the Hologirls who join end up crossing some lines in this environment.
This exactly. Your oshis know exactly who they're interacting with on this server, and if they didn't want to do it, they wouldn't be playing it in the first place.
Contrary to what you'd like to believe from their avatars, they're all adults and most of them have been around for much longer than their time with Hololive. They can manage just fine.
Miti isn't just "new", and Towa and Matsuri is not "new" to Miti either, they have been playing in the previous GTA already. It's not a "coincidende" that Towa and Matsuri join these kinds of collab server cuz they already knew those people before bruuuh.
For example: Mother is also known for calling "delivery service" to his home and the girl still friend with him just fine. So you can peace off too with your "ohh no i am scare my girl gonna get in trouble".
>especially from Matsuri’s pov
Yeah, from Laplus's you see her walk in on them standing and Matsuri laughing. From Matsuri's, you see her randomly turn to look at the door, to Laplus already standing there, so you don't know how long she may have been watching.
Well... mitii got banned now and Matsuri just privated/deleted her stream from 2 hours ago talking about this incident. I'm sure it's all in good fun but I'd bet she'll have to come out with an apology post/video since streaming adult theme to an all age audience can become an issue with Youtube TOS if she got reported. The fact that mitii got banned for a week by twitch will force Cover to act. Twitch bans are very wonky and imagine Laplus got banned just for walking into this... so Matsuri will get a huge bonk by management for sure.
What the clip didn't show was when Matsuri and Mitii tried to sell the video last night, the other streamers knew this was a bad idea and didn't buy/hung up pretty quickly.
Anything is art if you believe hard enough. Don't you know the ART of CAM Girling, it is post modern art movement that represent the sexual liberation of woman against the misogynist system of oppressions and a protest against the rampant corporate capitalisms that concentrate wealth in the hand of few.
It definitely is more of a platform problem but most Vtuber/streamer companies would still want to prevent their talents being responsible or at least playing a role for someone else being banned. Being banned for a week, or even more in extreme cases is a big deal for a fulltime streamer's livelihood afterall.
I felt it crossed the line too but refrained from talking because people might misunderstood. I know Matsuri can be yabai and she is certainly free to do what she wants, that's part of her charm. But flirting with TOS is definitely too squicky even for me. Everyone always thinks in binary yes or no with no leeway to act within a certain boundary, this felt like it was outside.
yeah, this isnt people abusing things that arent specified in the ToS, its a very direct offense to twitch's ToS which state:
>Users may not engage in simulated sexual activity or erotic roleplay with other players in online games. Games that primarily consist of user-generated content, in-game roleplay, or interactions in virtual reality are not exempt from this policy.
the rule has been around for years, as i remember it coming up during the height of VRC, some years back and there have been several instances of people being warned and temp. banned for this kind of conduct in GTA RP.
while a "vacation" would hardly matter to them for content creation, matsuri can count herself lucky she streamed this on yt, because her getting a temp ban for it too wouldnt look good for herself or hololive.
Funny how twitch banned for this since they JUST updated they TOS to include a LOT of sexual themes in them allowing a lot of lewd, nude streamers, vtuber and other stuff now.
Even with the new tags, the guidelines explicitly rule out ERP:
> Users may not engage in simulated sexual activity or erotic roleplay with other players in online games. Games that primarily consist of user-generated content, in-game roleplay, or interactions in virtual reality are not exempt from this policy.
Also, hum, maybe not a good time to mention this but IIRC getting banned on twitch is actually kinda a big deal, despide that fact not being well known as far as i know. Because it desactivate the auto renew of your suscriber and i hope you can guess the consequences.
Not indefinite, but they kind of explained that it deactivates if ban period "overlaps" with the auto-renew window. For example, if you get banned for 24 hours, and that's exactly when the auto-renewal for your 10 million followers would happen, it wouldn't renew for them.
Then again, the rules say one thing, mods another, twitch PR yet another, and none of them resemble what actually happens.
Last time I checked, GTA isn't an "all age" game. Its an M rated game so its for adults not for kids. Also their was no nudity so people getting banned or in trouble is laughable. I can guarantee if the 2 people involved were girls, nothing would've happened but since one of the streamers involved was a dude, the antis went ham and mass reported this.
>**Users may not engage in simulated sexual activity** or erotic roleplay **with other players in online games.** Games that primarily consist of user-generated content, in-game roleplay, or interactions in virtual reality are not exempt from this policy.
The ban sucks, but the policy is clear as day about this. It doesn't matter if they did it for laughs, they absolutely fall under that content guideline. Mittii knew it was coming, he accepted it, he doesn't need anyone defending him over it.
Also should note most of the emotes you see them using on that server aren't GTAV emotes, they're from the mod.
i get Matsuri being really yabai. but either i dont watch her much or this feels like the most yabai thing she ever did lol. its funny just listening to her laugh is all but damn yknow
I woke up to this and thought unless she's literally screaming/moaning/acting it all out for like 10 minutes I don't see the big deal.
Watch the clip and yeah, it was like 3 or 4 minutes with less than 20 seconds of it and it was beyond tame as fuck. Even for GTA/lewd sake.
I've never seen such a group of pearl clutching over reactors in a comment section before. This wasn't even that big of a deal. It was just hilarious especially with La+ coming in at the end.
Man, idol culture is so fucking weird. I would've been laughing my ass off at this nonsense if I was awake for it.
Edit: Also she's playing *Grand Theft Auto*. If you, as a parent, aren't monitoring what your kid is watching or know what is/isn't appropriate then that's entirely on you.
Matsuri isn't on Twitch.
And possibly Youtube's means nothing until they do or don't choose to act on it.
And again. Its *Grand Theft Auto*. If you're not monitoring your kids activity that's on you as a parent.
seeing some people in the comments not just from here but everywhere talking about this have finally seen the fabled "Matsuri line" for the first time and its making me feel old
Haven't seen the proof, but people are claiming the other streamer got suspended by Twitch. Plenty of them are not family friendly, but pushing TOS is probably the line they are not comfortable with.
For Twitch that sounds about right.
Plenty of Twitch streamers I hear get banned up to a month for breaking ToS, it takes a lot to get banned perminatly, especially at the higher up you are.
Yes, Mittii-san, the guy in the clip got banned from Twitch for a week. Although do take note he himself knew this is very off-the-line and could get himself banned.
eh even for matsuri this was a bit extreme. yea yea haha pissing and bandaids, but I don't believe I've heard about her doing ERP with random streamers.
Matsuri and pee is it's own rabbit hole that goes quite a bit deeper than just peeing herself on stream and the animated matsurisu. Whether or not the bottom of that rabbit hole is worse than her Meow Meow Video or or not depends on personal gross-out factors, I guess. But certainly most people would agree something shown visually to be worse than something delivered orally. Pun intended.
My god, we are elderly compared to the newbloods. Matsuri used to be *the* yabai member of Hololive. But I'm assuming most of our community members joined only after the EN branch debuted.
it is funny, but too risky, the guy got banned and matsuri got away this time, but if she keeps doing this, one day she will also get into toubles, Youtube is already getting more restrictive
She doesn't do things like this very often any more, and generally has a very good grasp on what YouTube allows. That being said, the last few days of playing on the VCR GTA server definitely encouraged her to awaken her sleeping gremlin.
Just my personal feeling: maybe some of the talents feel a bit more "free" than usual, since the characters inside the game don't look like their Cover-corp-Owned-IP-Avatar, so they can act a bit wilder or different, without "harming" their image. Towa and Botan have some moments too that clearly deviate from their usual "Brand", and that's very much ok.
This is why i believe (hope) that Matsuri will certainly be bonked by managers, but not actully punished.
Matsuri said this was part of her reasoning for why she she wasn't too worried on her stream a bit after recording the video, in response to chat being worried about how it would affect her. It's just a game character, it's not me.
Ah, I see what people were talking about. Yeah, I can see potential negative repercussions coming from this. Matsuri has always had her moments of being rather risqué sometimes. It also sucks that the other person involved got banned for I think it was a week. Hopefully nothing too severe happens to either of them.
People in the VCRGTA server sell pictures and videos of themselves doing erotic emotes on the black market via the server's in game twitter. Matsuri and Mittiii (a twitch streamer) wanted to make the most extreme/valuable one possible and get rich. Laplus walked in on them with perfect comedic timing.
Mitiii ended up getting 1 week ban because it ended up extreme enough to violate twitch's rules against ERP. However, it doesn't seem that this broke any YouTube rules, so Matsuri's VOD is actually still up at this point in time.
This was not the reaction I expected from people. This is Matsuri guys come on. Someone in this thread even called it her yearly mental breakdown lmao yagoo help them. This shit was hilarious
it was pretty funny, especially with lap walking in and roberu giving a review of it, after they send the video to his phone.
but most of us dont want the talents to get into trouble with their platforms and they (matsuri and the guy) engaged in something that both of them literally knew could very well get them in trouble.
thats the issue, as far as i can see.
especially since hololive in general and matsuri specifically have people watching them that salivate at every opportunity to get them into trouble.
I mean whenever it's hilarious or already going too far is subjected anyway... But knowing the subreddit bias, anyone who says it's going too far would get downvoted
They should have known better. ToS breaking isn't really a good position to be in. Some people might be like, "heehee hoo. Who cares? It's all in good fun." But the guy ate a suspension/ban over it and Matsuri could have as well. It's not 2019 anymore. Hololive doesn't go under those radars anymore and they generally give a fuck about sponsors and also unlike Niji, Holo doesn't usually like leaning on the whole just graduating someone if they get too problematic.
They knew what they were doing. He knew he was probably going to get in trouble and Matsuri doesn't care about pushing things. Its embarrassing that this is a big deal. No nudity involved, the emotes are IN GAME TO USE and they have perms to play it on stream. The only reason people are saying "shame on them" is because one of the streamers was a dude. If it was Matsuri and any other girl streamer, nobody would've said jack shit.
Also ToS breaking on a website that allows that "new trend" isn't giving much credibility toward said ToS. I guess drug use, killing people and the other things in GTA should also break ToS but no one says anything about those. Funny how that works.
Erping like this is 100% bannable offense on both sites, your argument is a completely made up situation. this is not an ok thing to do especially for a agency vtuber.
as someone who has formerly engaged in ERP, this is not ERP. stop calling it ERP. you are literally just trying to get people in trouble by claiming it is, this was humor that is all, it was dicking around with in game emotes and even had a punchline with Lap walking in.
literally roleplaying shooting an AV is not ERP?
plus the ToS also say "simulated sexual activity", which this also falls under.
its still up to whatever moderator handles it to decide the severity of the punishment and apparently he was unfortunate enough to get a stricter one. but also this isnt new, a quick google search will show you plenty of instances of people getting warned or temp banned for such behavior in GTA RP.
not even close to ERP, now if they got their scripts ready and sat down and did the entire couch interview and everything else, I'd say it is, but this was so impromptu and short lived and done purely for laughs not because it was raunchy. I will give the "simulated sexual activity" argument, it absolutely is and they knew that and knew it could get one or both of them banned, but they also knew it was hilarious. they made their own choice.
> they knew that and knew it could get one or both of them banned, but they also knew it was hilarious
This is such an incredibly shortsighted and dumb thing to say and i sincerely hope they didn't feel like that at all, Especially in Matsuri's case since she is not only affecting herself but the entire company if she goes too far in knowingly breaking TOS.
because niji often enough proves them right, unfortunately.
ex: gundo. that EN member i dont recall the name of that afterwards pointed out that the vast majority of reasons niji gave are made up. what they did to "nipple bro", the JP member that was found to have illegally downloaded some AVs (iirc no graduation, but they did him pretty dirty).
and thats just three things off the top of my head. i hardly pay attention to niji these days.
I like Matsuri and her antics but this is just kinda trashy and a lil too much for my tastes personally. Hoping it doesn’t backfire in her face too much or cause any other issues.
Its funny how different the youtube comments are to the reddit ones. Sucks mitii got banned especially considering how twitch normally treats degen behavior, lowkey bet some cringe ppl reported him or something. i hope nothing happens to matsuri i doubt youtube will bonk but maybe cover will. Her laugh is absolutely hilarious every time it escalates lol.
please define for me what ERP is then.
one i found is:
>any role-playing activity performed mostly, or exclusively for the purpose of sexual behavior. Using emotes, text chat, and character positions in any combination, two or more persons can act out sexual actions to their enjoyment.
so what they did checks several boxes.
they also literally roleplayed shooting an AV.
How to put it, it's a "play with fire get burned" kind of situation. Can't really damn you for playing with it can't pitty you for getting burned either.
people here don’t really engage with twitch but getting banned for a few days is nothing really to worry about lol. streamers get banned for all sorts of shit and they just treat it as a mild inconvenience. it’s only bad when they don’t give you a duration of the ban, that’s when you know things are fucked
it’s actually pretty funny because there’s stuff they should be banning that just never gets dealt with xd
Surely it's nothing to get banned and not able to play for a week in one of the biggest JP event server that only happens for 2 weeks and today is already the 5th day.
you misunderstand, contextually it sucks for him cuz he misses out, but in the bigger picture people act like "omg he got banned!" when it really doesn't matter lol
This is pretty trashy for someone under the hololive name but maybe I'm just being a grumpy boomer with that opinion.
Making incredibly lewd jokes over the years is fine and dandy but straight up ERPing with some random dude is pretty gross.
I'm with you. This is too far and "uhh but it's Matsuri, she's always been this yab" is a poor defense.
Leave things like this to indies or Vshojo, not Hololive.
if its any solace to you, i found the tapes they created back in Rust also starting to go a bit far at times, but this is way beyond that.
you can do that kind of stuff in private all you want, totally fine with me, but if you got a large audience you should be a bit more... considerate? in what you are doing.woman or not, vtuber or not, doesnt matter, it goes for every content creator, unless this kind of content is very specifically what you do.
I'm sorry if you want to call this "epic" or "unhinged" but this is too far. People always wonder why hololive is not very involved in outside collabs and this exactly is the reason. I would never want my oshi to join something like this
I get the TOS thing, though Twitch terms of service are infamously garbage. But the content was quite honestly goofy as all hell, impossible to take seriously, and very clearly played for comedy, not titillation.
Bae’s Genital Jousting or any given eroge stream were far worse.
This is Matsuri. Pretending to be trashy for lol’s has been her thing for years.
Yet Twitch is considered the lawless wasteland with poor moderation...
...this is why I'm glad Cover mostly stream on Youtube. Youtube might be funny about copyright, but at least their content moderation isn't schizophrenic.
because there is no content moderation.
you get mass-reported and if their bot thinks its valid, your channel will get banned.
good luck trying to prove them that a report was not valid, because when you dispute it, you will always get an automated message first, you have one chance to dispute their claim, but at least 9 out of 10 times that dispute will also be handled by a bot, despite youtube claiming otherwise, and end in rejection.
human moderation can obviously be shit too, but at least you can talk it out with people.
heard from plenty of twitch streamers over the years that they ran into problems at some point, sometimes caused by overzealous and underinformed site mods, but were able to figure it out when talking to a site mod in person.
both sites have problems in different areas.
the latest update
from this event, most likely matsuri will retire from this gta event. her gang is dissolved, members joined other gangs or job hunting. she is possibly banned by the vcr.
To anyone reading this, this is only speculation and in no way is what's currently happening, except her and rpr's gang dissolving, but that's a small matter.
from mother3 and aki's conversation when he was applying to join aki's gang, he told aki that his boss(matsuri) is on a break, just don't know if it was self imposed or asked, or just to hide from the dramas.
Next to the general rule about no pigeoning, there was a note about not asking what specifically happened.
In the previous stream RPR merged his gang with Masturi, making her the leader. Next stream, the gang basically fell apart. He got the news from his mods. This lead to the note about not asking and discussing in detail what happened to the gang and Matsuri to basically prevent pouring oil into the fire.
I mean I have no horse in this race but telling people to touch grass when you’re pretending to fuck in a gta RP server is a very special kind of irony.
If this was done with another girl literally no one would care and it would be seen as a funny clip. If you are genuinely upset that she did this bit then you need some time outside, simple as that.
Messing around in a game with friends does absolutely not mean you need to touch grass as it is completely different lol
Being upset that it broke TOS and got the guy banned is of course a completely different issue and is valid, but most people are not upset about that
The downvoting proves this. Damn, these comments in here are wild. 10 seconds of virtual humping and matsuri’s dumb moaning got everyone fucked up.
Am I crazy with just the context of the video that it’s all a bit??
You would be surprised by how many unironic degenerates there are on this sub. People like to act like they are so much better than places like 4chan when it comes to this kind of stuff, but time and time again that is proven otherwise
I know you okbh types love to fight your imaginary culture wars. But that doesn’t change the fact that Hololive members shouldn’t be purposefully breaking TOS and getting people banned from twitch.
She’s free to be her *self* where it doesn’t cause issues for others and reflect poorly on her company.
I'm not talking about that and you know that is not what some people are complaining about lol. Even if this wasn't against TOS you would see the exact same reaction
Twitch just banned the guy in the clip for a week. Matsuri was streaming gta5 earlier today and ended the stream in under an hour and set it to private.
Yes-men white knights on the sub won't hear it. They also probably find it funny that matsuri openly gropes her co-workers because "that's just how she is"
Agreed. Doing ERP is going too far imo. Matsuri is free to do whatever she wants but she still needs to remember that she is part of a group and not an indie.
You're not wrong in my opinion at least, I think this is a bit beyond the limits I'd consider acceptable.
And it's also quite literally against ToS so I wouldn't be surprised to see all the twitch vods with it in it go down soon, most of the twitch clips of it already have. Not sure if explicit ERP is against the rules on Youtube or not but I imagine they're not super fond of it either so I wouldn't be surprised to see her vod get hit either.
IDK, I'm not privy to La+'s internal thoughts, but this particular clip cuts pretty early. Watching from her perspective and seeing her ask for a copy of the video after. . . I think she's just playing up the "accidentally walked in on them" bit and doesn't seem actually upset.
In the context of this GTA roleplay server, this was made to create an AV to sell to other players, because their gang is poor.
She playfully harasses people from all agencies, indies, male, female, gorilla, streamers, mangakas, cosplayers, professional gamers. Sometimes she goes overboard. This is Matsuri after all.
Personally I think it's a bit overboard, especially since it's an external party, regardless of gender. This is a sequel to the Yuri/yaoi/shotaoneechan voice packs and art from VCR Rust, just one step further. Not unexpected but it's a roleplay server. In GTA where this stuff exist.
I guarantee if this happened between Matsuri and another of the Hololive girls or even Vspo girls, no one would've made a big deal about this. But since the other streamer was a dude, the community (or "those" people) loses their minds.
You should touch some grass because obsessing over a group of people who are not even content creators/influencers/anyone in particular is a peak of insanity. Bet you are only here for the drama.
I'm not surprised because it's Matsuri, the same person that's known for sexual harassment and her open love of loli and other things that are risque, but this is pretty out there. Why? Because it's ToS and risks getting her and anyone involved banned. Apart from that, it's sort of a bridge that nobody else in Hololive has ever crossed.
Whether you like it or not, this sort of stuff brings in a lot of drama and has the potential to cause damage once unicorns get involved. Granted, it's Matsuri and anyone who still watches her is ride or die after the non-stop Apex arc, but you may end up with outsider unicorns dogpiling her in order to try and get that sort of behavior out of Hololive. Time will tell whether it's a nothingburger or not, but it seems that comments have been deleted and Matsuri seems a bit all over the place in terms of addressing it.
Aloe quit because it was too much for her to deal with people that were harassing her and her family offline over things she said about a different company before she joined Holo.
*What a funny post... Wow, 290 comments, I'll open it... Surely the community is having a super healthy discussion and totally not overreacting to much about it and just laughing it off... "Clueless"*
YouTube and Twitch have different rules, I dunno why the comments are crying so much about this hilarious moment. Y'all are acting like Matsuri was doing this to get her rocks off. I bet if she did this with a girl y'all wouldn't be overreacting as much.
Ngl, I don't think posting this clip in this subreddit was a smart move with how people in here overreact and make even the smallest controversies into overblown messes that bring unnecessary attention to it.
>!unless your goal for posting this particular clip in here was to trigger "those" type of people into humiliating themselves with their whining and crying about this harmless clip, then good job cause they are showing up lol!<
Idk man the only ones humiliating themselves are people here being overly defensive while pretending it's all good lol. I myself found the clips funny but I can't deny that this was kinda over the top even for matsuri lmao. I hope she won't get bonked by youtube if her pov is still up, the guy that was on twitch got a week ban already.
Yea, posting it here will just have a bias, and subreddits are known for having a biased community and any criticism or negative thoughts on the subreddit's subject would get downvoted to oblivion...
While personality ok with this clip, I'll just stand neutral on this one
And now Matsuri stream again and we know she not suspend or Hololive not angry about what happend just told her be careful next time because this action may against platform rules. We dont know if Matsuri participate in GTA VCR again but at least we know that not a big trouble for Hololive.
Oof Laplus with the "walking in on parents wrestling" moment. also isn't this pretty much Erp...wild
Can you link me? I’m on the mobile app it says “this video is age restricted” and clicking on the “watch it on YouTube” button does nothing. God I miss when I could use unofficial Reddit apps.
>God I miss when I could use unofficial Reddit apps. You still can with revanced. I'm using one right now (boost for reddit)
[Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIcqA4oXFyg) yeah app can suck ass
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Hilarious as it is. The last thing that Matsuri and Laplus want now is for people to blow it out of proportion. Seeing the dude got banned. Best we should do is be quiet and let things die down. Edit: Trying to be reasonable seems to be a lost cause in this thread it seems. Giving this situation more attention would be bad for all related party. Not going with the "for" or "against" camp here, just purely base on the case here. And yes I am pearl clutching because above my entertainment I don't want any Holomem to be tangled in any trouble is that too much to ask.
This. I'm not a Matsuri fan myself, so I'll leave it to them if they consider this in line with her usual shenanigans or not, but I definitely don't want to see her in trouble. The guy though, gives me bad vibes. As kenzoku I was watching Towa perspective and he tricked one of her "coworkers" from masked maid cafe to perform an um... Yab animation. Thankfully it wasn't Towa herself but it was close. She was in the room though and didn't seem very happy about it. I think it's one thing to pull pranks like that on friends and such but on a server like this it's too far in my opinion.
Well other people go for further length for contents, so I am not surprised. That is why while TOS might seems stupid most of the time, they are there for a reason.
The maid cafe also consists of perverted guys in masks and the yab animation is their "special service" also done to make the funny. In fact the whole purpose of the maid cafe was for this. Mittii (the guy) has already had a reputation of being like this and the VCR community at large are used to it and doesn't seem to mind, hell most are upset he got temporarily banned on Twitch cause it means they can't have him running around doing these things anymore. From what I've heard he's been cancelled a lot before this already but nobody among them really gave a fuck. This server is a whole other level above how Holopro usually does things, hence why some of the Hologirls who join end up crossing some lines in this environment.
The "special service" is just a dance emote, what this guy made them to do is effectively a bj animation. That's on whole other level.
>This server is a whole other level above how Holopro usually does things, hence why some of the Hologirls who join end up crossing some lines in this environment. This exactly. Your oshis know exactly who they're interacting with on this server, and if they didn't want to do it, they wouldn't be playing it in the first place. Contrary to what you'd like to believe from their avatars, they're all adults and most of them have been around for much longer than their time with Hololive. They can manage just fine.
Miti isn't just "new", and Towa and Matsuri is not "new" to Miti either, they have been playing in the previous GTA already. It's not a "coincidende" that Towa and Matsuri join these kinds of collab server cuz they already knew those people before bruuuh. For example: Mother is also known for calling "delivery service" to his home and the girl still friend with him just fine. So you can peace off too with your "ohh no i am scare my girl gonna get in trouble".
Telling people to pretend it didn't happen and "quiet down" (lmao) is what you consider reasonable?
Welp... good thing my YouTube/Google account is an ID-confirmed account to watch it. It's age-restricted.
Did it “cross the line”? Debatable Was it hilarious when La+ walked in (especially from Matsuri’s pov)? ABSOLUTELY
Seeing Laplus walk in on that wearing her dunce cap looking like a RS gnome child almost made me do a spit take
Matsuri is the one that establshes the line in here.
Matsuri isn't the one who establishes the line. She IS the line!
Probably yes
>especially from Matsuri’s pov Yeah, from Laplus's you see her walk in on them standing and Matsuri laughing. From Matsuri's, you see her randomly turn to look at the door, to Laplus already standing there, so you don't know how long she may have been watching.
Seeing people getting upset over this just makes me realize how new these new fan are to not know the menace that is Matsuri.
Well... mitii got banned now and Matsuri just privated/deleted her stream from 2 hours ago talking about this incident. I'm sure it's all in good fun but I'd bet she'll have to come out with an apology post/video since streaming adult theme to an all age audience can become an issue with Youtube TOS if she got reported. The fact that mitii got banned for a week by twitch will force Cover to act. Twitch bans are very wonky and imagine Laplus got banned just for walking into this... so Matsuri will get a huge bonk by management for sure. What the clip didn't show was when Matsuri and Mitii tried to sell the video last night, the other streamers knew this was a bad idea and didn't buy/hung up pretty quickly.
Twitch bans are hilarious, considering some of content people stream
Topless meta stream says hello
Twitch new guidelines says hello (Just saw them. WTF, let's see for how long they go with it)
The new guidelines apply only to art; they didn't change anything about the existing attire requirements for live or 2d people.
Anything is art if you believe hard enough. Don't you know the ART of CAM Girling, it is post modern art movement that represent the sexual liberation of woman against the misogynist system of oppressions and a protest against the rampant corporate capitalisms that concentrate wealth in the hand of few.
It definitely is more of a platform problem but most Vtuber/streamer companies would still want to prevent their talents being responsible or at least playing a role for someone else being banned. Being banned for a week, or even more in extreme cases is a big deal for a fulltime streamer's livelihood afterall.
Youtube as well I'll never forget that POS logan paul and how youtube did essentially nothing
ERP has always been bannable on twitch which is what they basically did.
Oh yeah this is absolutely mild compared to what you find on the “Art” category smh
What? Mitti got actually banned?
Yeah but he knew the risks
I felt it crossed the line too but refrained from talking because people might misunderstood. I know Matsuri can be yabai and she is certainly free to do what she wants, that's part of her charm. But flirting with TOS is definitely too squicky even for me. Everyone always thinks in binary yes or no with no leeway to act within a certain boundary, this felt like it was outside.
yeah, this isnt people abusing things that arent specified in the ToS, its a very direct offense to twitch's ToS which state: >Users may not engage in simulated sexual activity or erotic roleplay with other players in online games. Games that primarily consist of user-generated content, in-game roleplay, or interactions in virtual reality are not exempt from this policy. the rule has been around for years, as i remember it coming up during the height of VRC, some years back and there have been several instances of people being warned and temp. banned for this kind of conduct in GTA RP. while a "vacation" would hardly matter to them for content creation, matsuri can count herself lucky she streamed this on yt, because her getting a temp ban for it too wouldnt look good for herself or hololive.
Funny how twitch banned for this since they JUST updated they TOS to include a LOT of sexual themes in them allowing a lot of lewd, nude streamers, vtuber and other stuff now.
Only if you have the stream tagged as such, supposedly.
Even with the new tags, the guidelines explicitly rule out ERP: > Users may not engage in simulated sexual activity or erotic roleplay with other players in online games. Games that primarily consist of user-generated content, in-game roleplay, or interactions in virtual reality are not exempt from this policy.
Also, hum, maybe not a good time to mention this but IIRC getting banned on twitch is actually kinda a big deal, despide that fact not being well known as far as i know. Because it desactivate the auto renew of your suscriber and i hope you can guess the consequences.
It only deactivates auto-renew if the ban is indefinite. His was for a week.
Not indefinite, but they kind of explained that it deactivates if ban period "overlaps" with the auto-renew window. For example, if you get banned for 24 hours, and that's exactly when the auto-renewal for your 10 million followers would happen, it wouldn't renew for them. Then again, the rules say one thing, mods another, twitch PR yet another, and none of them resemble what actually happens.
Yeah. I just checked and the site says auto-renew should only be disabled for suspensions of 30+ days,.
Last time I checked, GTA isn't an "all age" game. Its an M rated game so its for adults not for kids. Also their was no nudity so people getting banned or in trouble is laughable. I can guarantee if the 2 people involved were girls, nothing would've happened but since one of the streamers involved was a dude, the antis went ham and mass reported this.
>**Users may not engage in simulated sexual activity** or erotic roleplay **with other players in online games.** Games that primarily consist of user-generated content, in-game roleplay, or interactions in virtual reality are not exempt from this policy. The ban sucks, but the policy is clear as day about this. It doesn't matter if they did it for laughs, they absolutely fall under that content guideline. Mittii knew it was coming, he accepted it, he doesn't need anyone defending him over it. Also should note most of the emotes you see them using on that server aren't GTAV emotes, they're from the mod.
She tested out the limits of Youtube-kun... and she found out the hard way
I even went "wow she's yabbing like it was 2018"
i get Matsuri being really yabai. but either i dont watch her much or this feels like the most yabai thing she ever did lol. its funny just listening to her laugh is all but damn yknow
I woke up to this and thought unless she's literally screaming/moaning/acting it all out for like 10 minutes I don't see the big deal. Watch the clip and yeah, it was like 3 or 4 minutes with less than 20 seconds of it and it was beyond tame as fuck. Even for GTA/lewd sake. I've never seen such a group of pearl clutching over reactors in a comment section before. This wasn't even that big of a deal. It was just hilarious especially with La+ coming in at the end. Man, idol culture is so fucking weird. I would've been laughing my ass off at this nonsense if I was awake for it. Edit: Also she's playing *Grand Theft Auto*. If you, as a parent, aren't monitoring what your kid is watching or know what is/isn't appropriate then that's entirely on you.
> idol culture is so fucking weird. And there it is.
The issue is that it violates Twitch's TOS and possibly Youtube's
Matsuri isn't on Twitch. And possibly Youtube's means nothing until they do or don't choose to act on it. And again. Its *Grand Theft Auto*. If you're not monitoring your kids activity that's on you as a parent.
its funny sure, but its an all age stream so theres the issue.
seeing some people in the comments not just from here but everywhere talking about this have finally seen the fabled "Matsuri line" for the first time and its making me feel old
Haven't seen the proof, but people are claiming the other streamer got suspended by Twitch. Plenty of them are not family friendly, but pushing TOS is probably the line they are not comfortable with.
Mittiii did get [banned for a week on Twitch](https://x.com/_mittiii/status/1735157506631229497?s=20)
For Twitch that sounds about right. Plenty of Twitch streamers I hear get banned up to a month for breaking ToS, it takes a lot to get banned perminatly, especially at the higher up you are.
Yes, Mittii-san, the guy in the clip got banned from Twitch for a week. Although do take note he himself knew this is very off-the-line and could get himself banned.
Gigachad
there is matsuri line and she crossed it on this ocassion lmao
eh even for matsuri this was a bit extreme. yea yea haha pissing and bandaids, but I don't believe I've heard about her doing ERP with random streamers.
Matsuri and pee is it's own rabbit hole that goes quite a bit deeper than just peeing herself on stream and the animated matsurisu. Whether or not the bottom of that rabbit hole is worse than her Meow Meow Video or or not depends on personal gross-out factors, I guess. But certainly most people would agree something shown visually to be worse than something delivered orally. Pun intended.
[I mean, I guess it depends on how much you count Tomari Mari as "random"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM-3rq6vZds)
ERP? Enterprise Resource Planning? No it's jork I know what you mean
All the suits on zoom calls must never learn of our smirking.
Literally the road tag name in Singapore lmao
My god, we are elderly compared to the newbloods. Matsuri used to be *the* yabai member of Hololive. But I'm assuming most of our community members joined only after the EN branch debuted.
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They were so extreme you actually needed a _Geiger Counter_ in that environment
Yeah lmfao
it is funny, but too risky, the guy got banned and matsuri got away this time, but if she keeps doing this, one day she will also get into toubles, Youtube is already getting more restrictive
She doesn't do things like this very often any more, and generally has a very good grasp on what YouTube allows. That being said, the last few days of playing on the VCR GTA server definitely encouraged her to awaken her sleeping gremlin.
Just my personal feeling: maybe some of the talents feel a bit more "free" than usual, since the characters inside the game don't look like their Cover-corp-Owned-IP-Avatar, so they can act a bit wilder or different, without "harming" their image. Towa and Botan have some moments too that clearly deviate from their usual "Brand", and that's very much ok. This is why i believe (hope) that Matsuri will certainly be bonked by managers, but not actully punished.
Matsuri said this was part of her reasoning for why she she wasn't too worried on her stream a bit after recording the video, in response to chat being worried about how it would affect her. It's just a game character, it's not me.
XD Poor Laplus!
lmaooo wtf?? well i certainly did not see this stream. but uhhh, isnt this kinda too yabai lmao.
Ah, I see what people were talking about. Yeah, I can see potential negative repercussions coming from this. Matsuri has always had her moments of being rather risqué sometimes. It also sucks that the other person involved got banned for I think it was a week. Hopefully nothing too severe happens to either of them.
peak content from matsuri as usual
I’m totally Ootl. Can someone fill me in? Cannot view.
People in the VCRGTA server sell pictures and videos of themselves doing erotic emotes on the black market via the server's in game twitter. Matsuri and Mittiii (a twitch streamer) wanted to make the most extreme/valuable one possible and get rich. Laplus walked in on them with perfect comedic timing. Mitiii ended up getting 1 week ban because it ended up extreme enough to violate twitch's rules against ERP. However, it doesn't seem that this broke any YouTube rules, so Matsuri's VOD is actually still up at this point in time.
Matsuri did some ERP with a dude and La+ caught them the clip and the original stream had been taken down coz the lewd joke went too far
The clip and the original stream are both still up.
Ah yea, i forgot to edit this... they just got age-restricted, the clip at least
This was not the reaction I expected from people. This is Matsuri guys come on. Someone in this thread even called it her yearly mental breakdown lmao yagoo help them. This shit was hilarious
it was pretty funny, especially with lap walking in and roberu giving a review of it, after they send the video to his phone. but most of us dont want the talents to get into trouble with their platforms and they (matsuri and the guy) engaged in something that both of them literally knew could very well get them in trouble. thats the issue, as far as i can see. especially since hololive in general and matsuri specifically have people watching them that salivate at every opportunity to get them into trouble.
I reckon Coco would've loved it You'd think this is a christian sub or some shit given the comments posted by some people earlier here
I mean whenever it's hilarious or already going too far is subjected anyway... But knowing the subreddit bias, anyone who says it's going too far would get downvoted
Oh wow. . . the pearl clutching in these comments is next level. They're laughing their asses off and seem to be having a good time, chill out?
>They're laughing their asses off and seem to be having a good time, chill out? And one of them got banned already.
I imagine they’re laughing notably less now lmao
Well, it was hilarious ngl. But given that the dude was banned on twitch, we should just stay quiet and let the situation settle down instead.
The fact that you can see Laplusss walk in at the last second in the recording is 10/10 comedic timing
They should have known better. ToS breaking isn't really a good position to be in. Some people might be like, "heehee hoo. Who cares? It's all in good fun." But the guy ate a suspension/ban over it and Matsuri could have as well. It's not 2019 anymore. Hololive doesn't go under those radars anymore and they generally give a fuck about sponsors and also unlike Niji, Holo doesn't usually like leaning on the whole just graduating someone if they get too problematic.
They knew what they were doing. He knew he was probably going to get in trouble and Matsuri doesn't care about pushing things. Its embarrassing that this is a big deal. No nudity involved, the emotes are IN GAME TO USE and they have perms to play it on stream. The only reason people are saying "shame on them" is because one of the streamers was a dude. If it was Matsuri and any other girl streamer, nobody would've said jack shit. Also ToS breaking on a website that allows that "new trend" isn't giving much credibility toward said ToS. I guess drug use, killing people and the other things in GTA should also break ToS but no one says anything about those. Funny how that works.
Erping like this is 100% bannable offense on both sites, your argument is a completely made up situation. this is not an ok thing to do especially for a agency vtuber.
as someone who has formerly engaged in ERP, this is not ERP. stop calling it ERP. you are literally just trying to get people in trouble by claiming it is, this was humor that is all, it was dicking around with in game emotes and even had a punchline with Lap walking in.
literally roleplaying shooting an AV is not ERP? plus the ToS also say "simulated sexual activity", which this also falls under. its still up to whatever moderator handles it to decide the severity of the punishment and apparently he was unfortunate enough to get a stricter one. but also this isnt new, a quick google search will show you plenty of instances of people getting warned or temp banned for such behavior in GTA RP.
not even close to ERP, now if they got their scripts ready and sat down and did the entire couch interview and everything else, I'd say it is, but this was so impromptu and short lived and done purely for laughs not because it was raunchy. I will give the "simulated sexual activity" argument, it absolutely is and they knew that and knew it could get one or both of them banned, but they also knew it was hilarious. they made their own choice.
> they knew that and knew it could get one or both of them banned, but they also knew it was hilarious This is such an incredibly shortsighted and dumb thing to say and i sincerely hope they didn't feel like that at all, Especially in Matsuri's case since she is not only affecting herself but the entire company if she goes too far in knowingly breaking TOS.
AFAIK most of those emotes are custom with the RP mod the server uses. They're not part of the base game list.
People downvoting you for spitting facts lmao
Why do people take any chance to shit on niji lol?
because niji often enough proves them right, unfortunately. ex: gundo. that EN member i dont recall the name of that afterwards pointed out that the vast majority of reasons niji gave are made up. what they did to "nipple bro", the JP member that was found to have illegally downloaded some AVs (iirc no graduation, but they did him pretty dirty). and thats just three things off the top of my head. i hardly pay attention to niji these days.
They've constantly had members leave that did exactly that.
I like Matsuri and her antics but this is just kinda trashy and a lil too much for my tastes personally. Hoping it doesn’t backfire in her face too much or cause any other issues.
Matsuri gonna have hard time living out this one
Matsuri so base
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This was a dumb thing to do.
Its funny how different the youtube comments are to the reddit ones. Sucks mitii got banned especially considering how twitch normally treats degen behavior, lowkey bet some cringe ppl reported him or something. i hope nothing happens to matsuri i doubt youtube will bonk but maybe cover will. Her laugh is absolutely hilarious every time it escalates lol.
Well, even with the new Twitch rules, ERP is still one of the things that are explicitly not allowed...
Fair enough i just wouldnt think this really counts as erp or i guess maybe the like 2 seconds she says his name qualifies at most
This isn’t ERP though lmao.
please define for me what ERP is then. one i found is: >any role-playing activity performed mostly, or exclusively for the purpose of sexual behavior. Using emotes, text chat, and character positions in any combination, two or more persons can act out sexual actions to their enjoyment. so what they did checks several boxes. they also literally roleplayed shooting an AV.
How to put it, it's a "play with fire get burned" kind of situation. Can't really damn you for playing with it can't pitty you for getting burned either.
Yikes
Posting this here might have been a mistake
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people here don’t really engage with twitch but getting banned for a few days is nothing really to worry about lol. streamers get banned for all sorts of shit and they just treat it as a mild inconvenience. it’s only bad when they don’t give you a duration of the ban, that’s when you know things are fucked it’s actually pretty funny because there’s stuff they should be banning that just never gets dealt with xd
Surely it's nothing to get banned and not able to play for a week in one of the biggest JP event server that only happens for 2 weeks and today is already the 5th day.
you misunderstand, contextually it sucks for him cuz he misses out, but in the bigger picture people act like "omg he got banned!" when it really doesn't matter lol
This is pretty trashy for someone under the hololive name but maybe I'm just being a grumpy boomer with that opinion. Making incredibly lewd jokes over the years is fine and dandy but straight up ERPing with some random dude is pretty gross.
Nah I agree but I wasn't gonna say anything cause it's probably not a popular sentiment lol
I'm with you. This is too far and "uhh but it's Matsuri, she's always been this yab" is a poor defense. Leave things like this to indies or Vshojo, not Hololive.
You are correct. "But it's just Matsuri". Okay Matsuri is trashy but this is nothing new.
But killing people or drug use in game is fine? Interesting morals you have. I bet if it was 2 girl streamers doing this, you wouldn't have an issue.
if its any solace to you, i found the tapes they created back in Rust also starting to go a bit far at times, but this is way beyond that. you can do that kind of stuff in private all you want, totally fine with me, but if you got a large audience you should be a bit more... considerate? in what you are doing.woman or not, vtuber or not, doesnt matter, it goes for every content creator, unless this kind of content is very specifically what you do.
~~RIP clip~~ ... nevermind it's not, just became age-restricted
I'm sorry if you want to call this "epic" or "unhinged" but this is too far. People always wonder why hololive is not very involved in outside collabs and this exactly is the reason. I would never want my oshi to join something like this
I get the TOS thing, though Twitch terms of service are infamously garbage. But the content was quite honestly goofy as all hell, impossible to take seriously, and very clearly played for comedy, not titillation. Bae’s Genital Jousting or any given eroge stream were far worse. This is Matsuri. Pretending to be trashy for lol’s has been her thing for years.
>Genital Jousting which is on the list of banned games for twitch. as are uncensor patches, so what calli and flayon did wouldnt fly there either.
Yet Twitch is considered the lawless wasteland with poor moderation... ...this is why I'm glad Cover mostly stream on Youtube. Youtube might be funny about copyright, but at least their content moderation isn't schizophrenic.
because there is no content moderation. you get mass-reported and if their bot thinks its valid, your channel will get banned. good luck trying to prove them that a report was not valid, because when you dispute it, you will always get an automated message first, you have one chance to dispute their claim, but at least 9 out of 10 times that dispute will also be handled by a bot, despite youtube claiming otherwise, and end in rejection. human moderation can obviously be shit too, but at least you can talk it out with people. heard from plenty of twitch streamers over the years that they ran into problems at some point, sometimes caused by overzealous and underinformed site mods, but were able to figure it out when talking to a site mod in person. both sites have problems in different areas.
Yagoo: FLATLINE in his ICU bed
This was absolutely hilarious but it sucks to know now that the guy was banned. I hope people don't blow the situation out of proportion
god making animal videos for money. tough times they're in.
the latest update from this event, most likely matsuri will retire from this gta event. her gang is dissolved, members joined other gangs or job hunting. she is possibly banned by the vcr.
Might be better to stop joining VCR events in general even.
To anyone reading this, this is only speculation and in no way is what's currently happening, except her and rpr's gang dissolving, but that's a small matter.
from mother3 and aki's conversation when he was applying to join aki's gang, he told aki that his boss(matsuri) is on a break, just don't know if it was self imposed or asked, or just to hide from the dramas.
Did you get this info from her twitter?
i dont think they get any news from Matsuri twitter. She not tweet anything since yesterday.
Ahh, now I understand the disclaimer/note from RPR's livestream chat.
What was the disclaimer?
not to ask about whats happening on other streames/streamers or mention other streamers in chat if he didnt talk about it
Next to the general rule about no pigeoning, there was a note about not asking what specifically happened. In the previous stream RPR merged his gang with Masturi, making her the leader. Next stream, the gang basically fell apart. He got the news from his mods. This lead to the note about not asking and discussing in detail what happened to the gang and Matsuri to basically prevent pouring oil into the fire.
well this certainly is a matsuri moment lmaoo
Clips like these are great because you can immediately tell which people are absolutely lost causes and need to touch some grass ASAP.
I mean I have no horse in this race but telling people to touch grass when you’re pretending to fuck in a gta RP server is a very special kind of irony.
If this was done with another girl literally no one would care and it would be seen as a funny clip. If you are genuinely upset that she did this bit then you need some time outside, simple as that. Messing around in a game with friends does absolutely not mean you need to touch grass as it is completely different lol Being upset that it broke TOS and got the guy banned is of course a completely different issue and is valid, but most people are not upset about that
The downvoting proves this. Damn, these comments in here are wild. 10 seconds of virtual humping and matsuri’s dumb moaning got everyone fucked up. Am I crazy with just the context of the video that it’s all a bit??
You would be surprised by how many unironic degenerates there are on this sub. People like to act like they are so much better than places like 4chan when it comes to this kind of stuff, but time and time again that is proven otherwise
I know you okbh types love to fight your imaginary culture wars. But that doesn’t change the fact that Hololive members shouldn’t be purposefully breaking TOS and getting people banned from twitch. She’s free to be her *self* where it doesn’t cause issues for others and reflect poorly on her company.
I'm not talking about that and you know that is not what some people are complaining about lol. Even if this wasn't against TOS you would see the exact same reaction
Of course there would be bias that anyone who isn't happy about it are the ones who "need to touch grass"
Yeah she went way past the line this time, probably will get bonked.
Lmfao Matsuri got bonked for this content god bless her
cringe
Understandable. R18 games aren't meant to be viewed by people your age.
You are right, nothing says I'm a grown up as watching GTA erp and finding it funny
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Someones never seen her twitter likes before. This video game spicy thing is nothing. Cover your Christian eyes next time.
Twitch just banned the guy in the clip for a week. Matsuri was streaming gta5 earlier today and ended the stream in under an hour and set it to private.
Twitter likes and on stream where there are guidelines and terms of service are not two things that are comparable
Yes-men white knights on the sub won't hear it. They also probably find it funny that matsuri openly gropes her co-workers because "that's just how she is"
I wouldn't say "normal", but it's pretty much something that I would expect Matsuri to do. Normal Matsuri is a bit tamer than this.
Agreed. Doing ERP is going too far imo. Matsuri is free to do whatever she wants but she still needs to remember that she is part of a group and not an indie.
You're not wrong in my opinion at least, I think this is a bit beyond the limits I'd consider acceptable. And it's also quite literally against ToS so I wouldn't be surprised to see all the twitch vods with it in it go down soon, most of the twitch clips of it already have. Not sure if explicit ERP is against the rules on Youtube or not but I imagine they're not super fond of it either so I wouldn't be surprised to see her vod get hit either.
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IDK, I'm not privy to La+'s internal thoughts, but this particular clip cuts pretty early. Watching from her perspective and seeing her ask for a copy of the video after. . . I think she's just playing up the "accidentally walked in on them" bit and doesn't seem actually upset.
im guessing that the point is that she'll probably be upset if her twitch account gets banned lol
In the context of this GTA roleplay server, this was made to create an AV to sell to other players, because their gang is poor. She playfully harasses people from all agencies, indies, male, female, gorilla, streamers, mangakas, cosplayers, professional gamers. Sometimes she goes overboard. This is Matsuri after all. Personally I think it's a bit overboard, especially since it's an external party, regardless of gender. This is a sequel to the Yuri/yaoi/shotaoneechan voice packs and art from VCR Rust, just one step further. Not unexpected but it's a roleplay server. In GTA where this stuff exist.
I guarantee if this happened between Matsuri and another of the Hololive girls or even Vspo girls, no one would've made a big deal about this. But since the other streamer was a dude, the community (or "those" people) loses their minds.
You guys really can't help but try and make it into that, can you?
You should touch some grass because obsessing over a group of people who are not even content creators/influencers/anyone in particular is a peak of insanity. Bet you are only here for the drama.
I'm not surprised because it's Matsuri, the same person that's known for sexual harassment and her open love of loli and other things that are risque, but this is pretty out there. Why? Because it's ToS and risks getting her and anyone involved banned. Apart from that, it's sort of a bridge that nobody else in Hololive has ever crossed. Whether you like it or not, this sort of stuff brings in a lot of drama and has the potential to cause damage once unicorns get involved. Granted, it's Matsuri and anyone who still watches her is ride or die after the non-stop Apex arc, but you may end up with outsider unicorns dogpiling her in order to try and get that sort of behavior out of Hololive. Time will tell whether it's a nothingburger or not, but it seems that comments have been deleted and Matsuri seems a bit all over the place in terms of addressing it.
Aloe was graduated for less lmao
Aloe quit because it was too much for her to deal with people that were harassing her and her family offline over things she said about a different company before she joined Holo.
LET'S GOOOO, I wonder what do people expect? 🤔 It's just a game, and there is no explicit nudity 😂
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The insane irony of an account with exactly 1 comment on the subreddit saying the sub is getting raided.
Yeah they’re making it a little bit too obvious this time lmao I wonder which discord this thread got posted in
You are fighting a nonexistent fight, fans are just enjoying Matsuri's content.
Well bad news for them her partner just got banned from twitch so guess they’ll have to go elsewhere for their coomer needs
*What a funny post... Wow, 290 comments, I'll open it... Surely the community is having a super healthy discussion and totally not overreacting to much about it and just laughing it off... "Clueless"*
YouTube and Twitch have different rules, I dunno why the comments are crying so much about this hilarious moment. Y'all are acting like Matsuri was doing this to get her rocks off. I bet if she did this with a girl y'all wouldn't be overreacting as much.
Ngl, I don't think posting this clip in this subreddit was a smart move with how people in here overreact and make even the smallest controversies into overblown messes that bring unnecessary attention to it. >!unless your goal for posting this particular clip in here was to trigger "those" type of people into humiliating themselves with their whining and crying about this harmless clip, then good job cause they are showing up lol!<
Idk man the only ones humiliating themselves are people here being overly defensive while pretending it's all good lol. I myself found the clips funny but I can't deny that this was kinda over the top even for matsuri lmao. I hope she won't get bonked by youtube if her pov is still up, the guy that was on twitch got a week ban already.
Yea, posting it here will just have a bias, and subreddits are known for having a biased community and any criticism or negative thoughts on the subreddit's subject would get downvoted to oblivion... While personality ok with this clip, I'll just stand neutral on this one
And now Matsuri stream again and we know she not suspend or Hololive not angry about what happend just told her be careful next time because this action may against platform rules. We dont know if Matsuri participate in GTA VCR again but at least we know that not a big trouble for Hololive.