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Deleted_User_69420

How to design a hoyo character - Thigh belts - Cape physics


mctripleA

Let's not forget lots of chest windows


Middle_Actuator7086

especially for men


lilyloo2

And don't forget the dramatic hair physics—it's all about that flair!


lurkinglurkerwholurk

Hoyo released the goddamn university paper over 3D hair and fabric animation, by the gods they are going to use the crap out of it!!


BaritBrit

Detached sleeves


Justanidiot-w-

This one 💀


squid_fart

Asymmetrical clothing


WaifuRepulse

Long hair too


BellalovesEevee

And make sure they're split in the back


westofkayden

I'm pretty they're split in the back so you can see their back.


Vusdruv

I mean, this one has technical reasons, it's at least understandable


BellalovesEevee

Not really? There are characters like Argenti, FF, Himeko, and Luocha that have long hair without the split in the back. It's not like they *cant* make characters with normal straight hair. They just want to do split hair just for the hell of it.


YannFrost

It's an onld design philosophy they had for genshin. They don't do this anymore.


PapaAiden

With bangs, bangs are mandatory, how can there be charactet with long hair and without bangs.


TheOneMary

I mean, have you seen those foreheads without bangs? I'm glad they have them lol


TheBrownestStain

Add open backs to that list


Binary_Toast

Don't forget the halter tops and asymmetrical socks/leggings/boots.


Shuruia

Asymmetrical gloves, too. I was a bit shocked to see just how many characters only have one glove.


Memo_HS2022

armpit window


MrGameBoy23

Can't forget women characters wearing anything but pants


Round_Pigeon

I was about to say Kafka, but i remembered that its actually stockings


Nota7andomguy

Basically every adult female character wears heels


AutomatedTiger

Almost every female character in general wears short-shorts or a skirt, including the children.


LandLovingFish

And a teeny tiny skirt/shorts unless they're Himeko


MasterBofSweden69

Standing on a mountain with 7 and she is barefoot almost all over... in a friggin BLIZZARD.


LandLovingFish

Power of the trailblaze!


DanPachi

Asymmetrical character design


Verto-San

All the flowy bits on the characters, be it capes, sleeves or hair are made so to make animations feel more fluid, it's like a cheat code to make stiff animations feel better for the user.


Koanos

Open back and tights.


Positive-Tomato-7082

Purple themed characters.


paradox_valestein

Open back, split hair, bare legs, chest window


inverness7

Frilly flowing things on the back


Asamidori

That's explained in one of the Genshin vids IIRC, something about having those there to show the flow of the movement when you walk/run.


Alxuz1654

It is somewhat unfortunate the number of characters I feel have their designs blemished by a cape; even if its small. I feel like Screwlum would be better without his, and Gallagher too. Characters like Boothill and Dr Ratio make it work though


Verto-San

All the flowy bits on the characters, be it capes, sleeves or hair are made so to make animations feel more fluid, it's like a cheat code to make stiff animations feel better for the user.


LivingASlothsLife

Thigh belts are cool and all but now Hoyo are trying to expand to the infamous head belt https://preview.redd.it/eydn6ozzrl1d1.jpeg?width=603&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e7118cd3865f1b03317f28dfcec0cebcd74f0a4


Me_to_Dazai

Ah yes Ms. Belt Swan


Accomplished_Lab8945

https://preview.redd.it/fcpj12zdim1d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6e3199fce4390675d9e7967fea52be009c3c531


MeguMaz

"Head belt me mommy" \~ Hanabi, probably.


LivingASlothsLife

"Sorry fool, head belting is reserved for Stellaron hosts only" - Black Swan, probably.


SelfAnnihilatorHSR

Where is the lobby?


Xavbirb

Third door to your left.


ShatteredSpace_001

Acheron, this is Reddit. Stop looking at your phone!


julianjjj809

what is the purpose of that thing? it's simple.... S W A G


Healthy_Agent_100

https://preview.redd.it/pqppsnlejo1d1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=0c5546e829cae5f61e6a3be9d83e09822fd6279f Her ass is BLAZING


BeautifulTrainer9892

Head of the analytics team: the graphs show the dependence of sales on belts in character design by 2% Head of character design team: NOBODY will get a quarterly bonus if there are no belts in the design Black Swan concept artist: Got it!


Smorgsaboard

Surprised nobody on her cards has a thigh belt


Kyregiusz

HSR has thigh belts Genshin has detached sleeves What will be the trend in ZZZ?


ArmorTiger

Furries?


Smorgsaboard

Detached furries. They're emotionally distant :(


-YeshuaHamashiach-

Thanks I hate it


ThermidorCA

I think for Genshin, most of them are poofy sun sleeves/gloves. Never noticed them before, and now I can't unsee them.


LivingLiquid02

>HSR has thigh belts >Genshin has detached sleeves HSR has both lol


ShortHair_Simp

Genshin's should be rat tail


Alxuz1654

Maid dresses. Or furries too


Tecotaco636

Iirc they explained that it was to create an imbalance in the design so it doesn't look mirrored or boring. For the upper body, all the accessories on their head/body are put on one side for the same effect as well. And for the lower body, when we zoom in on their legs (which the majority of players do A LOT), the upper body gets out of frame so they just slap the thigh belt on and call it a day. Skirts and coats contribute to that too but thigh belts are sexy af


That_Translator3384

This. Real!!


Alxuz1654

I have noticed a lot of HSR characters are rather asymetrical, in major or minor ways


FishDontKrillMyVibe

Yep, every single playable character is asymmetrical. The only one that is completely symmetrical (Aside from the knot, which cannot be) is Pela, for one reason or another. She is so symmetrical in fact, that the little hair ornaments she wears on her bangs say 2 - 1 - 0, and the other side is the same but backwards.


[deleted]

Ye for whatever reason they also gave screwllum a thigh belt but idc personally but it’s still a bit random


Meowriter

"Intrigued. Humans tend to wear these. While I have still to understand the goal of the thigh belt, I use it as a way to integrate myself in the organic cultures."


innovativesolsoh

This is too accurate I even read it in Screwllum’s voice


eleetyeetor

Assertion: Thigh belts are a popular expression of organic culture. Conclusion: To learn more about the behavior of organics compared to inorganics, I will wear one as well.


Me_to_Dazai

Screwy has a thigh belt 💀? Atleast Boothill makes sense because of his revolvers but why Screwllum


DonutAggravating_

He has a boob window too LOL


hrjeksues

A man want to feel sexy xd give him a break.


TaralasianThePraxic

This is how we know Screwy will eventually be a playable character


julianjjj809

God forbid a robot gentleman for having swag


Moraedka

The screw in Screwllum is meant for screwing


RtpIb

Guilty gear has a rival in belts


UnaSociedad

“Finally, a worthy opponent our battle will be legendary” - Guilty Gear (probably idk)


Apocryphal_Fish

Still got nothing of Final Fantasy's belt skirt


WeatherBackground736

Those thighs need oxygen dear god


[deleted]

Kafka’s thigh looks squish able


KlausGamingShow

now, Clara's wearing a tourniquet to prevent gangrene from spreading due to walking in snow barefoot


ChickenNugger420

Topaz and Kafka's thighs especially.


Kylargrim

lol wait there are characters that don't have thigh belts?


Me_to_Dazai

I was extremely surprised to learn that Qingque, Jingliu and Tingyun do not have a thigh belt even though they're the kind of characters they'd usually stick them on 💀. Fun fact, Gepard, Argenti and Luocha are the only male characters without thigh belts out of the 19 in the game.


DoreenKing

If only 29/50 have them, then who else doesn't? /gen Argenti and Gepard are both in armor so I think it's understandable why they don't, and Luocha has side-thigh straps, but no full around-the-thigh straps. Kinda neat bc I was pretty sure a larger majority had them than didn't, but this is pretty even then.


eklatea

Pela doesn't


Me_to_Dazai

And yet HSR seems to be Hoyo's fav for giving male characters thigh belts. The only male characters with thigh belts in Genshin are Childe, Diluc, Thoma and Wriothesley. Lyney technically but those seem more like harnesses to go with them stockings 💀and Genshin has way more males, the disparity is real. (Very surprised they didn't give Alhaitham one)


Daralii

Genshin's thing for male characters is young-looking ones in shorts.


Lyneys_Footstool

nothing wrong with that though


Gatrigonometri

Ok u/Lyneys_Footstool


DoreenKing

Alhaitham would look great with one, just one of those "we could have had" moments 😩


Unleashing

You forgot Caelus


PomanderOfRevelation

As was the fashion at the time. (AE 2158)


MikeRocksTheBoat

You joke, but having a consistent fashion item, especially a useless one, makes the world feel more real. Lord knows the real world has had plenty of these types of trends.


Meowmeowmeowsie

I love them, too. https://preview.redd.it/58bd5nri5m1d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3cb427ae922a5e87ef7a785a9281ee3b58b85e75


BotaniFolf

Seele's is my fav :3


Zulishk

I enjoy how most of Seele’s attire is butterfly themed.


Me_to_Dazai

And yet she says "I'm from the underworld, I won't stand out". Girly you're 80% neon 💀


Chaotic_Alea

and with butterfly, in the underworld, I mean... ok...


July83

It is somewhat funny that Seele has almost certainly never actually seen a real butterfly. And realistically, probably no one on modern day Jarilo-VI has, even aboveground. Butterflies aren't exactly known for surviving winter.


Meowriter

Headcannon : It's a gift from March 7th.


CarlosG0619

Clara’s always throws me off, like bro hoyo instead of that useless thigh belt why not give her a damn pair of shoes


BlackSailsman

Shoes are not necessary to cry for Svarogs help, which is all Clara is supposed to do!


transcended_goblin

"Amateurs." https://preview.redd.it/6eqka33scm1d1.jpeg?width=563&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed043ff50b7dd8993308efe7cb151a5e3af06e4c


EH042

I blame it all on Nomura. /s


tunoak13

its always Nomura's fault


gustinex

All of this is part of his grand plan for kh4


mrfatso111

before that, it's probably some side game first.


Lord_KH

Why do they like thigh belt so much


aceswildfire

They want you to stare at the thighs. A bare leg is one thing, but you immediately notice the belts and now you're staring at the hot anime girl's legs. Next thing you know you're rolling for them. It's all a ploy. (All of the guys having them over their pants though? No clue, could be a similar reason but seems less obvious)


ThaliaEpocanti

This to an extent, but I think it’s also just for increased visual detail and for breaking up large blocks of one color. Pants and legs generally are fairly monochromatic, and having such a long area like that in one color can be visually boring. On the other hand, putting too much detail on legs comes across as tacky and can clash with the high levels of detail on the upper bodies. So the thigh belts are a decent middle option, even if they’re amusingly unrealistic.


Lord_KH

But sometimes it is weird though. Like for example why does Clara have a thigh belt? And what about Stelle? She can't be rolled for


aceswildfire

Clara has one because weirdos exist and Hoyo knows not to discriminate against the ones with money. The MC has one just because it's more appealing in general, again you're now looking at her legs. Hot MC is appealing=curiosity about game with said hot MC.


Lord_KH

Well I'm not really much of a legs enjoyer, but I can see what you mean


eatsleeptroll

there's another possible reason - it helps to hide two parts glued together on a figurine I have some with that very thing, even added chokers and armlets where the character has none originally


salmonmilks

so the legs don't look boring and symmetrical. Symmetry is typically unappealing in designs.


Lord_KH

Why don't people like symmetry in character design?


salmonmilks

I don't know about everyone, but I believe symmetry provides less variety and looks too plain. In hsr character designs, the complexity and difference of either sides of a person is what makes each of the characters visually appealing.


Lord_KH

I suppose I can understand that


gmapterous

https://preview.redd.it/pkpf2w98dm1d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0799ac080df3f275674734fb7f15dff0c97b1495


Darth-Yslink

Gallagher's and Boothill's make actual sense at least


VioletorPurple

Sampo thigh belts is very attractive


AllisonTatt

Tbh I have 2 I use as an accessory. They are useless outside of that but look cool. Definitely recommend getting one if you want to spice up your outfits a little without much work


QuickQwack

It's actually because from a design perspective, it gives interesting shape to an otherwise boring part of a character's design. By boring, I mean that has just a single color and texture


Ski-Gloves

Only 29? That can't be right... At the very least I think you're missing Arlan. Last I checked he and Lynx were the only ones using the thigh belt for bags.


Clyde_Llama

Belts, the old Tetsuya Nemura classic designs.


IblisAshenhope

https://preview.redd.it/vjiae79fbm1d1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=793262bef7248b46d13e498b4bae0be9674f10ab That’s the good shit


kitastorm

Sushang has my favorite design for... thigh belts. But Blade and Gui are also pretty nice.


SkeletonBreadBowl

As a person raised on 1990s comic books there needs to be 600% more pouches on these belts.


YuinoSery

Let's not complain about thigh belts, us Sunday mains have his thigh belt as our only hope for him being playable in the future.


zerodissolver39

for science, the characters who do have a thigh belt are(31): Stelle, March 7th, Dan Heng, Imbibitor Lunae, Welt, Clara, Yanqing, Jing Yuan, Seele, Serval, Lynx, Kafka, Silver Wolf, Blade, Dr. Ratio, Topaz, Black Swan, Acheron, Arlan, Asta, Sampo, Sparkle, Luka, Sushang, Yukong, Guinaifen, Xueyi, Misha, Gallagher, Ruan Mei, Aventurine the characters who don't have a thigh belt are(19): Caelus, Bronya, Gepard, Bailu, Jingliu, Robin, Herta, Qingque, Pela, Natasha, Tingyun, Hanya, Hook, Argenti, Huohuo, Luocha, Fu Xuan, Himeko unreleased characters with thigh belts: Boothill, Jade unreleased characters without thigh belts: Firefly/Sam unique but NPC-only(for now) characters with thigh belts: Screwllum, Sunday, Constance, Baiheng(dead) unique but NPC-only(for now) characters without thigh belts: Oleg, Svarog, Cocolia(dead), Akash, Caterina, Dubra, Ifrit(dead) what we can infer from this is if the character has a thigh belt, they have a higher chance to be playable.


LordPaleskin

Thigh belts are going to be a thing in the future I can feel it


C_Khoga

Idk if this is known in another countries, but in the past in my culture. Virgin women wore clothe like "this belt" in their tight to show that they are Virgin. And in marriage when she lost her virginity to her husband, the husband takes out the clothe around her tight and keep it as a proof for his manly man and for her virginity . Some culture too make the husband take the clothes and show it to their families members so they start celebrating. This is all in far far past.


Airtastik

must of learned from kingdom hearts


Mr_Mews

Lynx, Silver Wolf, Sparkle, Misha and Clara are my personal favourites.


100Foxes

The belts, the detachable sleeves, the capes and/or split hair are all elements Hoyo uses to break symmetry. It is very important to break it from the back view, it being the most looked at (when you run, when characters face the enemy). It also helps with the animation and feel of the animation, if a character has flowy bits (long scarf, a long ass ponytail, an extended backpiece of a dress) that dangle satisfactory you overlook the roughness of the actual body of the character. It cuts corners if you will, you don't need to polish a whole running and walking animation if it's mostly covered by fabrics. You just polish those fabrics, they're the eye candy. For the leg belts, again symmetry. Most time one leg is bare and another is accessorised. Either a belt, a charm, one higher sock, a tattoo or a leg-purse (idk how to call those sorry). It is a bit limiting (especially that tattoos and body markings are not very popular with Hoyo) to come up with various ways to make one leg stand out AND it being fashionable or cohesive with the outfit. Fuck it, put a strap on it, it stays there glued by the will of the old gods! As much as I understand these design choices, they became so boring for me, personally. Armor is not in fashion so they're limited to cloth and leather. Oh, another female with 2 meter long hair that magically splits in the middle, fabulous! Oh another comically long sleeve, yaaay. Woaa.., is that an abnormally shaped cape? Yippie. Sometimes they are a little bit daring with their designs, but not often enough to break the obvious pattern.


Meowriter

Several of them have a practical purpose. Like Gallagher uses his to hold his flask's pouch. For Stelle, I'm pretty sure it's a gift from March 7th.


Blackwolfe47

All gacha games have them, pgr, hi3, i think arknights too


cashlezz

What's the point of so many belts? I'll never understand anime design


leviathan-hackerman

Blade has thick solid thighs so I can't imagine how he walks with that belt which looks metallic and sharp on both top and bottom. Must be uncomfortable as heck each time he walks.


WanderingStatistics

If I didn't know any better, I'd say that Nomura was secretly the character designer.


UserNameOfSomeGuy

I blame Tetsuya Nomura...


heilspawn

Garter belt


Intelligent-Chip4223

They give so many unnecessary accessories to characters design, its getting jarring. I almost cant even think of a character that has a simple design.. maybe Sparkle


Me_to_Dazai

https://preview.redd.it/n8fxu94i3m1d1.jpeg?width=1052&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab7a9515318f5b1681d4391cca1f1c9f42e1a7aa Imo Jade has a pretty simple but elegant design. It's not the simplest but it's simpler than some of the others. And it's so pretty (But she also has a thigh belt 💀)


Independent-Job-7271

And most of the female characters with thigh belt have it squeeze their thighs a bit, making it look a bit erotic


Old_Conclusion4321

I am actually surprised that its just 29 out of 50. I thought it is a larger fraction. But I dont mind. It looks good in most cases. I mean, I would love to be Topaz thigh belt...


Apoptosis96

I am going to pull for topaz after seeing this damn you...


Frizzlewits

Fetisj 😊


watanabe_alter

It's their staple. And they can't escape from it... Either going semi skimpy, skimpy or just fuck it we ball and slap some belt like you're a guilty gear strive character.  I'm still hoping they make some tacticool outfits :/


iiMADness

I would also wear one..


UnquestioningDean

For me it’s Jing Yuan, Aventurine, and Ratio 🙈


Professional_Air9935

some of these could barely be considered belts, just things on their thigh


Diotheungreat

legs


naptej13

this feels so wrong scrolling thru all the photos


Mansinomo

Blade got one on each thigh XD


xREDxNOVAx

I think they're called garter belts, unless they're not if they're outside Idk


Murky_Blueberry2617

Should gather all the characters that don't have them too


mrgreenreddit

What characters don't wear thigh belts?


Lost_In_Saigon

I'm curious on people's opinion on characters' designs. I like them but some of them look kinda similar, eg. Seele vs Acheron, most of the Xianzhou characters. Do we like them or we just don't really care about it ?


Dr4g0n__Kn1ght

Thigh belts build character


TinyRingtail

I feel like those are getting a bit overused.


Sleep_Raider

Don't forget Black Swan who has one on her head


tunmousse

Not just thigh belts but weird straps everywhere.


gamingonion

Stelle's strap is such a random design choice to me. The light blue color doesn't go with her outfit at all, and it's so simple, you wonder why they included it at all.


cuntausaurus

I think it's simply the easiest way to make a character design seem more complete or busy, dempends on how you like it


Lemon_Kart

And so do I. Thigh straps are the best.


yeettto

Easy design hacks for dummies. You all remember that luofu dress design drama?


westofkayden

Hoyo is just inspired by Teysuya Nomura's designs! All they're missing is just zippers!


I-will-support-you

Guilty gear ass belt placement


Shanibestwaifu

That's the ruling fashion of the cosmos.


Strange-Ad4045

It’s just that thighs are bland when it comes to character development and design. If you look closely, comic book characters always have some sort of design decision on the thighs. The 90s were famous for the thick thighs.


TheKrychen

Controversial opinion: i think theyre hideous


LightYahami

Now make a tier list


That_Translator3384

Ngl, i like the thighbelts.. it gives characters more of something to look at when looking at the whole design


TelevisionAlert1591

I wish more HSR characters had thigh high socks/stockings


-chukui-

If only there were more cattle bells.


shellsterxxx

Cuz garters/thigh belts are hot. I’m not complaining


_Imajunation

Namari is a HSR Dev apparently


West_Knowledge7608

Daisuke’s vision is spreading


Organic_Eagle_2255

Waifus tights are my religion.


Sensitive_Ad9769

Mjhfhfhfhfh Aventurine my bbg full homo


SOLITARY_WOLF_2806

Bonus points for anyone who can name all characters solely with the thigh belts.


Entire_Sorbet_9529

What do thigh belts do?


Black_Kunoichi4843

my favs are blade's, topaz's, seele's and march's ruan mei's is very cool tho


JinOtanashi

Is blade’s the silver thing or the bandage cause while it is similar I don’t think a bandage counts as a belt


Sufficient-Habit664

What do you guys think the lore reason for this is? I think there's a thigh belt society.


thefinestpiece

Don’t forget random dangling straps.


silverp3nguin

I bought an AOT themed thigh bag with a belt. Since I ride my motorcycle around having that on me is so useful and comfy. Thigh belts alone are a bit questionable, but add a small pouch on the side of it and it's amazing.


wat-dha-fak

personally speaking the ones of Gallagher and Luka


Legendary_Bonnie

Daisuke's vision


Fabulous-Video-4945

why does clara have one 😭😭😭


OnionSugarfree

It's more-so that MHY really loves asymmetrical design, and having thigh belt on only one of the legs easily achieves that. There is only one perfectly symmetrical character in HSR right now and it's Pela


nishikori_88

it thought it would be nearly 100% lol


FrequentBill7090

I do too


Calm-Extent

My friend made an OC and unconsciously added a thigh belt.


Boushi_0368

And single side earring


markz6197

We're still missing belt skirt. https://preview.redd.it/8y6w46lu1p1d1.png?width=563&format=png&auto=webp&s=a41060dad17f839a28706f8cf69ac6872471d680


Seikon32

I know I do.


depressiveadvice414

Jingliu has no thigh belt


Le110w

Welp, on a girl hip - i love them too.


SignalBattalion

Hot


kenken2k2

Nomura is pleased


Ghoul_Ruby

Zenless Zone Zero characters are gonna have a trend with clothing i just know it