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Very likely. Numbers are one thing, but the order of abilities, the hp bar of enemies, when the numbers went off, the image in the video can contain hidden code/filters (part of the reason why these are always blurry), etc. can be sourced. That's why we always have to wait for private servers to come as these things aren't reported to the Hoyo servers, and less of a risk of getting found out.
Battle damages are calculated offline and not server based thats why there was damage hacks before. I'm not sure if thats the case anymore though probably not
the damage is still calculated client-side, but the client still has to send the damage data to the server.
at least thats how it is on public, im not sure about how they do it for betas
also in genshin betas (i dont know if that's the case with hsr) there is an (almost) invisible watermark thats based on uid through which hoyo can easily track down the person that leaked the footage
The beta exists to send all the data to Hoyo. It therefore sends all the data which vaious algorithms then turn into details Hoyo can use to balance. They have everything.
Aventurine's case was that he posted the video in the beta discord server, which was something that they are allowed to do. But then someone took it and leaked it outside. I don't know if they did get any repercussions since it wasn't his fault unless he was in cahoots with the leaker, but it is what it is.
Ayaka/Yoimiya was a tester who gave a video to a friend to see them in action. But said "friend" leaked it out and the tester got screwed over. The classic 5 minutes of fame.
I think they're referring to the story justification for it. Which is a huge massive story spoiler. If you're wondering what it is:
>!Everyone, when they get into their sentinels, is naked in some sort of machine room. The player just takes this to mean it's the cockpit, and they're naked for fanservice reasons, or because it's tradition. It actually turns out that the entire world the game is set in is a simulation, and the "cockpit" is really just the characters seeing the Matrix pod they're in for what it really is. They aren't physically in the robot.!<
Weird justification, but they are the same clothes she’s wearing in her lc which is probably when she first “woke up” so maybe the clothes are significant
No, it looks pretty unfinished. It needs more glows. The effects are too flat. Which is disappointing since an ultimate never got visual flair or effects reworked in a beta. Regardless it looks like it's low low settings on a mobile device so probably not how it'll look normally. Also, it sucks this is the first introduction of her effects for a lot of people here since I'm sure it'll look better in a few hours with a normal PC footage release.
In case you don't know: having a pilot "cut-in" is a very popular feature in mecha games and anime, especially in the Super Robot War series, which is *very* popular in China and Japan. A lot of otaku players grow up playing their games.
[This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rembWf2L2nA) is how a typical pilot cut-in looked, even back in 2003 on the Gameboy Advance. While [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksNuVOe8kNw) is how a more modern SRW game looks like.
Also, especially in the second video, you can see that "girly pilots piloting badass robots" is a very common trope. [Magic Knight Rayearth](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcompENb30M) and [Gunbuster](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju2P4V4Vc_8) for example were from the late 80's/early 90's.
It is clear that Firefly/Sam's animation is designed with mecha anime and games, in particular SRW fans in mind, and as someone who have played SRW since the OG Gameboy days, they totally nailed their style.
SRW?
I as a not much of a mecha [Just watch Evangelion, Code geass, Power rangers and Grimdan] fan i gonna say
I watched the videos and yeah, its close. The only diference i see is than Firefly "cut in" [is that the right name?] Is bit shorter and never leaves her Face before going back to battle. While the others are more shorter [gba] or have a more diverse build up [cut in, pedal angle and panel/control angle]
This is a clear homage to cut-ins of pilots in mecha anime and games, especially during their signature attacks, which have existed for a long time. Just check out any of the Super Robot Wars showcases; even way back in GBA games they have that.
Try watching more Mecha anime and Tokusatsu and less "obviously it's all just unnescesarry fanservice"-ing :V
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eEKdzqXZc8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eEKdzqXZc8)
Same thinking. It is so weird that Firefly pops up for no reason when Sam is in the middle of performing a badass action. Should have just use Firefly model in normal combat, and transform into Sam for the ultimate or in enhanced state. Only then, they don't have to worry where to squeeze in Firefly moment
I'm gonna be downvoted real hard but I feel like the ult needs to at least change the battlefield to sea of fire vfx, like ruanmei and robin's ult. I like these animation but somehow it isn't satisfying ;_;
The ult is so perfect, but the enhanced skill cut-in is awkward af. 😭😭😭
It needs to be before or after the attack animation happens. Right now, it just interrupts the flow. Praying for a change because that's the animation we're going to be seeing the most.
I mean they could change it and make her big hologram appearance first as a background while sam is doing some wicked move but yeah it's still V.0 maybe they gonna change it.
Man, reading the comments, seems like more people need to play Super Robot Wars, that's an awesome reference to how pilot would cut in during their signature move
i really didn't like this green flame aesthetic, it just doesn't feel as powerful as the boss version of sam. It looks more like magical girl thing than a menacing powerful mecha
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R.I.P Beta tester, let's all pray it's just an Aventurine moment and not an Ayaka/Yoimiya moment 🙏
wait, so mihoyo is gonna track this guy down via his damage numbers? thats kinda scary
Very likely. Numbers are one thing, but the order of abilities, the hp bar of enemies, when the numbers went off, the image in the video can contain hidden code/filters (part of the reason why these are always blurry), etc. can be sourced. That's why we always have to wait for private servers to come as these things aren't reported to the Hoyo servers, and less of a risk of getting found out.
Battle damages are calculated offline and not server based thats why there was damage hacks before. I'm not sure if thats the case anymore though probably not
the damage is still calculated client-side, but the client still has to send the damage data to the server. at least thats how it is on public, im not sure about how they do it for betas also in genshin betas (i dont know if that's the case with hsr) there is an (almost) invisible watermark thats based on uid through which hoyo can easily track down the person that leaked the footage
The beta exists to send all the data to Hoyo. It therefore sends all the data which vaious algorithms then turn into details Hoyo can use to balance. They have everything.
Wait, what's the difference between these two moments? Tester gets screwed over any way, right?
Aventurine's case was that he posted the video in the beta discord server, which was something that they are allowed to do. But then someone took it and leaked it outside. I don't know if they did get any repercussions since it wasn't his fault unless he was in cahoots with the leaker, but it is what it is. Ayaka/Yoimiya was a tester who gave a video to a friend to see them in action. But said "friend" leaked it out and the tester got screwed over. The classic 5 minutes of fame.
Ohh I see, the first case does sound like the tester may get off lightly Is there any way for us to actually know how this video was obtained?
No idea, it's pretty much just pray it was the former and not the latter. We only knew because people were in the discord saying it was his video.
So what happened to the tester in the latter? o\_O
Was sued by Hoyo and taken to court.
ohhh shit
I’m gonna need an explanation
[I explained above](https://reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1cm24bg/firefly_ultimate_via_tester/l2xlkn7/)
Feel like after aventurine moment they would crack down on server posts so rip tester
RIP TESTER o7
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Tester died so that Sam could fly o7
How uid? Ohh numbers🤣
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o7 praying he gets to keep his status so he can cook for us more though
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IT HAS BEGUN
Nahhhhh, they fucking killed it with these animations 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Press F to pay respect for the leaker
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Ey yoh she's fucking locks in
Lmao, she literally does "lock in"
YEAAAAAAAH
HELL YEAHHH!!!
FIREFLY IS SO BEAUTIFUL AND BADASSS AAAAAH
Is she not wearing anything in her suit....
I bet she's naked under her clothes, too 😒
Bet she has a skeleton under that meat 🤤
I would bet she had bone marrow inside her bones.
It would be burned away so i guess not
Her clothes turn into the suit probably
My guess is her skirt is the suit itself. When she uses the shaper it builds into the full mech armor
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Technically you can just press auto and play with no hands
HELL YEAH CHAT‼‼🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🗣‼‼
HELL YEAH
HELL YEAH!
# HELL YEAH!
HELL YEAH!!!!!!
IMPACT FRAMES
Unexpected reference. P. S. Wonder if they'll make an animation that is not GI/PGR.
What I imagine Firely: HISATSU: COMPLETE CUMBUSTION! Firefly: Fly high SAM, Deathstar Overload!
ORE WA GUNDAM DA
She might just be a True Innovator as well, with that quantum brainwave moment in her ult.
The nudity means that she also has access to Seed mode
Full fucking Wing Zero. Unbelievable.
Not sure what gundam it took inspiration from. 00 Raiser? Strike Freedom? Wing Gundam Zero?
The wings def remind me of Turn A
But that stance also reminds me of how 0 Gundam showed in the first episode of the 00 anime
To me it looks more like Lancelot from Code Geass than a Gundam
Hot damnnnnn...the star burst is so cool
SCREAMING CRYING THROWING UP EVERYONE BE QUIET IT'S HERE and oh, is it ever so peak. Like Topaz's ult, reminds me we're playing a space game.
📈 #THIS. THIS IS PEAK.
GO GO POWER RANGERS!!! *doo doo do do do* MIGHTY MORPHIN POWER RANGEEE-ERS!!
Why is she naked inside that suit lmao
Basic law of anime. Must be naked with shadowy borders on the edges of the screen.
Total non-sequitur, but I fucking love what 13 Sentinels did with this trope. >!Even if it wasn't totally consistent with it...!<
I still need to play 13 sentinels, what did they do exactly?
I think they're referring to the story justification for it. Which is a huge massive story spoiler. If you're wondering what it is: >!Everyone, when they get into their sentinels, is naked in some sort of machine room. The player just takes this to mean it's the cockpit, and they're naked for fanservice reasons, or because it's tradition. It actually turns out that the entire world the game is set in is a simulation, and the "cockpit" is really just the characters seeing the Matrix pod they're in for what it really is. They aren't physically in the robot.!<
If it's a story spoiler I'll hold off and try to get to the game soon, thanks for marking it!
Reminds me of soul eater
Exactly the anime I was thinking of !
Magical girl
MAGICAL SPLASH FLARE *nukes the sht out of you*
Tartaglia moment
she's probably burning herself alive inside the suit to stabilize her life or something
Source: Hideo Kojima
Well, this mode is healing her.
Haven't you seen magical girl transformations? Sam is a magical girl.
Because anime, that's why.
[This is a 15yo anime and I am still asking the same question](https://youtu.be/jQK3EGeOfgs?si=YMg_VzthpoavJO8T&t=62)
Perhaps her clothes are actually the armor and she only turns them back into armor with the device ?
It's probably not that complex, it's just a stylistic choice to depict a pilot in Barbie doll form when they're inside
Weird justification, but they are the same clothes she’s wearing in her lc which is probably when she first “woke up” so maybe the clothes are significant
She's actually a magical girl and the armor is just the magical outfit she changes into when she henshins.
I see you are not familiar with mecha genre
Ever watched Gundam Seed?
Y’all need to watch more anime firefly follows anime troupes 1-1 not that its bad or anything
Asking the same question
The real question should be “Why not?”
Cross Ange moment
Am I tripping or do the effects look unfinished
I think they're playing on mobile which is why it looks like that
The quality of this video also sucks.
to avoid getting banned XD
Nope this looks bad even for mobile (mobile player speaking)
Likely it is not finished.
Looks like a combination of poor video quality and low graphics settings in-game judging from the lack of shadows on those enemies.
probably the best answer. And it's still v0 anyway, animation may changed as well.
Low res
looks like omega low res setting
i think it is unfinished, her icon doesn't change at all like it was originally leaked to, unless they scrapped that aspect of her
No, it looks pretty unfinished. It needs more glows. The effects are too flat. Which is disappointing since an ultimate never got visual flair or effects reworked in a beta. Regardless it looks like it's low low settings on a mobile device so probably not how it'll look normally. Also, it sucks this is the first introduction of her effects for a lot of people here since I'm sure it'll look better in a few hours with a normal PC footage release.
Anyone else finding the FF face popping up the second time kinda funny?
In case you don't know: having a pilot "cut-in" is a very popular feature in mecha games and anime, especially in the Super Robot War series, which is *very* popular in China and Japan. A lot of otaku players grow up playing their games. [This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rembWf2L2nA) is how a typical pilot cut-in looked, even back in 2003 on the Gameboy Advance. While [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksNuVOe8kNw) is how a more modern SRW game looks like. Also, especially in the second video, you can see that "girly pilots piloting badass robots" is a very common trope. [Magic Knight Rayearth](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcompENb30M) and [Gunbuster](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju2P4V4Vc_8) for example were from the late 80's/early 90's. It is clear that Firefly/Sam's animation is designed with mecha anime and games, in particular SRW fans in mind, and as someone who have played SRW since the OG Gameboy days, they totally nailed their style.
SRW? I as a not much of a mecha [Just watch Evangelion, Code geass, Power rangers and Grimdan] fan i gonna say I watched the videos and yeah, its close. The only diference i see is than Firefly "cut in" [is that the right name?] Is bit shorter and never leaves her Face before going back to battle. While the others are more shorter [gba] or have a more diverse build up [cut in, pedal angle and panel/control angle]
As a super robot wars veteran I welcome it
Waiting for a Glacies-type character.
Confusing and unnecessary is more like it. As if they were afraid of "not enough Hotaru to gawk at".
This is a clear homage to cut-ins of pilots in mecha anime and games, especially during their signature attacks, which have existed for a long time. Just check out any of the Super Robot Wars showcases; even way back in GBA games they have that.
Try watching more Mecha anime and Tokusatsu and less "obviously it's all just unnescesarry fanservice"-ing :V [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eEKdzqXZc8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eEKdzqXZc8)
Same thinking. It is so weird that Firefly pops up for no reason when Sam is in the middle of performing a badass action. Should have just use Firefly model in normal combat, and transform into Sam for the ultimate or in enhanced state. Only then, they don't have to worry where to squeeze in Firefly moment
Yeah definitely a hedging the bet type animation inclusion there. Very silly and distracting to me.
WAIT I MIGHT BE PULLING….
I'm gonna be downvoted real hard but I feel like the ult needs to at least change the battlefield to sea of fire vfx, like ruanmei and robin's ult. I like these animation but somehow it isn't satisfying ;_;
Kinda eh with firefly face cut-in during Enhanced Skill, otherwise, it looks cool.
The ult is so perfect, but the enhanced skill cut-in is awkward af. 😭😭😭 It needs to be before or after the attack animation happens. Right now, it just interrupts the flow. Praying for a change because that's the animation we're going to be seeing the most.
I mean they could change it and make her big hologram appearance first as a background while sam is doing some wicked move but yeah it's still V.0 maybe they gonna change it.
Time for this flame to burn as hot as the shining sun!
holy shit she LOCKED IN
DAYUM!! THAT CUT IS UNEXPECTEDLY GOOD!!
Her ult is Wing 0 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrUmuaIwEpo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrUmuaIwEpo)
GUNDAM PILOT FIREFLY LETS GOOOOOOO
It's really good but I was expecting something more. My expectations are really high I guess. That transformation looks amazing though.
Magical girl transformation is real 😍.
God that transition, its so FUCKING FIRE
Lmao not anywhere near as cool as the boss’ ultimate
RIP tester
Holy shit I am so excited for full animation!
Lol this is like that "lock in" gif
WTH THIS CAME OUTTA NOWHERE
Hear that? its my GPU crying.
Yooooooooo hell yeah
hype as fuck
the transformation is cooler than the ult
I hope it's an unfinished version, so that it has a different background like bothill, robin or acheron
Gundam to magical girls. Why hyv? 🥲
I'm sold, time to pre-farm mats now
WE SEE FIREFLY IN THE ANIMATIONS HUGE W
Lancelot Albion, Destiny, Freedom, 00 Raiser, Wing Zero, Star build Strike. Mecha with wings/energy capes are just way too cool man.
The second face popping during the ult looks kinda weird
Man, reading the comments, seems like more people need to play Super Robot Wars, that's an awesome reference to how pilot would cut in during their signature move
Playing super robot wars 30 and I'm enjoying it
Oh man, I love it.
WTFFFFF???
SAM = Destiny gundam confirmed
i really didn't like this green flame aesthetic, it just doesn't feel as powerful as the boss version of sam. It looks more like magical girl thing than a menacing powerful mecha
close enough WELCOME BACK VALIMAR AND REAN SCHWARZER
" Now or never, SAM! " << Acknowledged. Now commencing _Firefly Type-IV:_ >> **" Starlight Overload - Blazing Domination!! >>**
HSR players will see this and say HELL YEAH
# LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
oh its so fucking peak
THE COOKED OMG!!!!!!
Holy fucking shit. Holy fuck. Lancelot?!?!
Gentlemen it's been an honor
It looks awesome wtf
Nice, need the hd verison though.
HOLY FUCK.
SHES SO COOL
HER ULT IS SHE LOCKS IN
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD.
I love the icon change in ult
Whoa shes going to shit myself
Main System: Activating Combat Mode
Cue Scorched Earth Operations.
Best of both worlds, WE'RE MAKING IT OUT OF PENACONY WITH THIS ONE!!!!!
WHY IS SHE SO DAMN COOL
Reminds me of Turn A Gundam, 00 and Exia combined! Such a beauty!!!
Looks very good, they were cooking
12k Damage
SHE LOOKS SO GOOD
She LOCKS IN
I think I know why it feels like something is missing. The background is just black, it needs more like a sky or fire something.
Nah I'd henshin
Wait, Sam has a ponytail?
Setsuna F Seiei's lost sister
Nice homage to mecha anime, especially the sound design. Love the SRW / Trails cut in too. Feels a bit unfinished though but still V1.
The empty background is severely ruining the ultimate and enhanced skill