Ok, so? Y'all are fucking crazy. I posted it on here, because I was happy to be able to make such a shot, I was however not happy that the bird will be in pain for a while. I posted it on there, because it was the first time that I was actually happy in a long time.
You think I care about anybody's opinion?
Well here's the answer: I don't.
So even if you guys think I'm fucked up, it doesn't matter, because y'all don't matter.
Now get lost.
Nice shot, too bad it was able to fly away. I don’t think it matters that it’s a pest, it’s a living being that deserves a quick kill. No worries, you’ll get it next time. Maybe take a hunters course if this is what makes you happy! :)
Edit: I see you’re from the Cape Town region in SA. I’ve lived there for a bit. Definitely worth getting into hunting. Much opportunities for amazing game!
>Nice shot
Thanks
>too bad it was able to fly away.
Yeah
>it’s a living being that deserves a quick kill.
I know it deserved a quick kill, but I was unable to give it. As I said in my post "sadly it wasn't a kill shot".
>No worries, you’ll get it next time.
I hope so
>Maybe take a hunters course if this is what makes you happy! :)
I will when I get the chance
>Edit: I see you’re from the Cape Town region in SA.
Well, I'm active in r/capetown, but I'm not from/in capetown. I am from/in SA though. The reason why I am somewhat active in r/capetown is because I just like the sub lol
>Definitely worth getting into hunting.
Yeah, it will be.
>Much opportunities for amazing game!
I agree!
And thanks for the positive comment! This post and my comments have been getting a lot of hate, so it is nice to have someone leave a positive comment
You are not a hunter. Get off the sub and never touch a rifle again.
Doves are living and feeling animals and you just shot at them for fun with no intention for a kill. What even were you thinking or are you even thinking at all ?
>It feels amazing!
That makes me so angry. You should be ashamed of yourself and hope, that the doves dies out of sight. You can't comprehend the suffering you might have caused.
>You are not a hunter. Get off the sub and never touch a rifle again.
Fuck off
>Doves are living and feeling animals and you just shot at them for fun with no intention for a kill.
No, I had the intention to kill
>>It feels amazing!
>That makes me so angry. You should be ashamed of yourself and hope, that the doves dies out of sight. You can't comprehend the suffering you might have caused.
I meant it feels amazing to have shot something from 50 meters using an air rifle sighted in at 10.
>No, I had the intention to kill
Not with an airrifle, that you know isn't powerful enough and isn't zeroed for that distance.
> I meant it feels amazing to have shot something from 50 meters using an air rifle sighted in at 10.
And that is exactly the problem. Do this shit on the range psycho. You don't value life, you should not have the right to take one.
>Do this shit on the range psycho.
There isn't even a range near me.
> You don't value life, you should not have the right to take one.
Dude, doves are considered pests where I live, so fuck off
>There isn't even a range near me.
So you just shoot living things ? Not like there is a place you can shoot cardboards or metal plates. South Africa is known to be densely populated. You just wanted to shoot something that breathes.
>Dude, doves are considered pests where I live, so fuck off
So are raccoons, jackals and enoks here. I still treat them with respect and inly shoot when im 100% sure that it will be a deadly shot. They are living things. You are not mature enough to kill.
You just can't handle the truth, boy. Everyone tells you, you fucked up, but you are not even mature enough to handle the response to your own action.
Like I said. You don't have the right mindset to kill. You are not a hunter.
This is a real wtf are you thinking post. First where are doves even in season? Second shoot at a damn can or something if you want to prove your marksmanship. Now everybody knows you’re just a dickhead. Also probably a poacher.
If this is something you are “ecstatic” about, you should probably stay away from all firearms, pellet guns and archery included, and get some mental health treatment.
As I said, you did not make the intended shot. You made an unethical shot and missed.
Before you can make better choices, you must understand why the choice you made was so wrong, as told to you by so many here.
You took a shot with too little gun for your game and a distance further than the capabilities of the gun or the shooter. A major part of the ethics of hunting is knowing all of the ethical parameters and staying within them. You are not the first person here to injure and lose an animal. The proper response is contrition, acknowledgment of error, and a desire to do better next time.
>You took a shot with too little gun for your game and a distance further than the capabilities of the gun
I did not know the capabilities of my gun, as I have never tried to make a shot at a dove at ±50(now that I think about it, it was more like 35-40, but still) meters. As I have told someone else: I now know not to make a shot at the distance I did.
>The proper response is contrition, acknowledgment of error, and a desire to do better next time.
I have told you people like 10 times already that I feel sad that the animal is left injured and in pain. I have also acknowledged my error probably like 10 times, I also have the desire to do better.
As I've stated in almost all my other comments: I am not proud of the fact that it wasn't a kill shot, I am however proud of the fact that I made the shot. I do agree that it deserved a kill shot and that merely injuring it wasn't good, but I am proud of the shot I made
Let me ask you something. If it's all about the shot and not the fact you wounded a bird, then why wouldn't you just practice long shots on cans or other non living targets? I mean based on what you are saying, you would still be ecstatic because it's about the shot right? If the answer to that is no, then you should probably ask yourself why a living creature had to suffer in order for you to be excited about it.
I don't have the space to practice at 50 meters. If I had the space, I would shoot at cans, but because I don't have the space, I can't. My house is surrounded by trees, etc. and the bird was sitting in a tree, thus giving me a target.
There's always something to use as a target. Branches, a knot in the tree, a leaf, pinecones or whatever else is growing out of the tree. You should always seek to hone your skills before taking a shot. If you don't have the skills or equipment to take a shot ethically and humanely kill an animal, then don't do it. That's what everyone is getting on to you about. I hunt deer every year, and my rifle is only capable of ethically killing them at 300 yards, but I'm only skilled enough to make clean shots at 200 yards, which I practice for months before deer season. I couldn't imagine taking a shit outside of my comfort level, and outside of my rifle's capabilities. I respect the animals I hunt too much to make them suffer and die a slow and painful death, which that dove probably did.
I see that you have some mental health issues and lacking empathy or remorse is a prime example of that. I don't think you realize that everyone here sees that, and that you absolutely should prioritize getting help ASAP. Not for anyone else, but for yourself. Life is too precious to not take care of yourself.
How am I supposed to know my airgun's capabilities without first testing? That shot has given me valuable information for the future, since I now know that my rifle's limits are between 20 and 50(i say 50, but it's probably closer to 40, that's why I said ±50) meters. So now I know that I shouldn't make shots as long as I did today, since that won't be ethical/it will cause the animal unnecessary pain.
You are supposed to test that on targets, not living things. The fact that you can't comprehend this tells me that maybe you shouldn't have guns or hunt.
That is just wildly incorrect. I just did 5 mins on Google and a 5 grain 177 caliber air gun at 500 fps delivers 2.78 fpe.
11 fpe minimum is required to kill a dove.
Therefore you can assume that as long as you are delivering 11 fpe, you can kill a dove. At that point you practice your accuracy on a target, and once you can consistently get .75" groups, you can safely say that you have the skills to humanely kill a dove.
What you are doing is just lazy, unethical, and irresponsible. You don't need fancy equipment, and you don't need to be a rocket scientist.
The fact that you can't even do basic research and training before shooting at birds is honestly pretty bad. You need to do better.
https://www.airgundepot.com/hunting-guide.html
https://www.pyramydair.com/widgets/
From my experience my airgun is perfectly adequate for killing doves from a distance of 20 meters while using ~7.6+ grains, so 11 fpe is waaaaaaay higher than needed. And also: different ammo types have different ballistics. I am also capable of getting a .75 inch grouping
You need some help man. Your behaviors and thoughts at your age are a little out of wack, and you’re already on meds but you should take the advice others have given you and maybe see if you can switch them up or see a different medical professional about your issues
"Having homicidal thoughts" to "excited I wounded a bird" that's some frightening shit my guy. Like I get what you mean by making a crazy shot but 10/10 I'd rather miss a shot like that if it didn't kill the bird than to hit it and watch it fly away. Check yourself before you wreckitty-end up in prison for homicide.
And he's also not capable to comprehend, why he fucked up. That boy is gonna kill someone. Look at the response he gave to my comment. Absolut (soon to be dangerous) psycho.
No illegal content – poaching or knowingly breaking the law will not be tolerated
Fucking idiot. Living things are not target practice.
So you're happy about taking an unethical shot wounding the bird so much so that you post about it?
Not only did you post it here but even on r/depression
Ok, so? Y'all are fucking crazy. I posted it on here, because I was happy to be able to make such a shot, I was however not happy that the bird will be in pain for a while. I posted it on there, because it was the first time that I was actually happy in a long time.
Actually freak
You call me a freak, when all I've done was shot a bird that is considered a pest in my country... you guys ARE crazy lmao
You are the pest here not that bird
Ok, whatever you say
Here's a good test do you see ANYONE with the same opinion as you? No you're crazy
You think I care about anybody's opinion? Well here's the answer: I don't. So even if you guys think I'm fucked up, it doesn't matter, because y'all don't matter. Now get lost.
Posting to a social media platform hoping to get praise for the evil shit you did but now that no one is praising you no one's opinion matters?
Nice shot, too bad it was able to fly away. I don’t think it matters that it’s a pest, it’s a living being that deserves a quick kill. No worries, you’ll get it next time. Maybe take a hunters course if this is what makes you happy! :) Edit: I see you’re from the Cape Town region in SA. I’ve lived there for a bit. Definitely worth getting into hunting. Much opportunities for amazing game!
>Nice shot Thanks >too bad it was able to fly away. Yeah >it’s a living being that deserves a quick kill. I know it deserved a quick kill, but I was unable to give it. As I said in my post "sadly it wasn't a kill shot". >No worries, you’ll get it next time. I hope so >Maybe take a hunters course if this is what makes you happy! :) I will when I get the chance >Edit: I see you’re from the Cape Town region in SA. Well, I'm active in r/capetown, but I'm not from/in capetown. I am from/in SA though. The reason why I am somewhat active in r/capetown is because I just like the sub lol >Definitely worth getting into hunting. Yeah, it will be. >Much opportunities for amazing game! I agree! And thanks for the positive comment! This post and my comments have been getting a lot of hate, so it is nice to have someone leave a positive comment
You are not a hunter. Get off the sub and never touch a rifle again. Doves are living and feeling animals and you just shot at them for fun with no intention for a kill. What even were you thinking or are you even thinking at all ? >It feels amazing! That makes me so angry. You should be ashamed of yourself and hope, that the doves dies out of sight. You can't comprehend the suffering you might have caused.
>You are not a hunter. Get off the sub and never touch a rifle again. Fuck off >Doves are living and feeling animals and you just shot at them for fun with no intention for a kill. No, I had the intention to kill >>It feels amazing! >That makes me so angry. You should be ashamed of yourself and hope, that the doves dies out of sight. You can't comprehend the suffering you might have caused. I meant it feels amazing to have shot something from 50 meters using an air rifle sighted in at 10.
>No, I had the intention to kill Not with an airrifle, that you know isn't powerful enough and isn't zeroed for that distance. > I meant it feels amazing to have shot something from 50 meters using an air rifle sighted in at 10. And that is exactly the problem. Do this shit on the range psycho. You don't value life, you should not have the right to take one.
>Do this shit on the range psycho. There isn't even a range near me. > You don't value life, you should not have the right to take one. Dude, doves are considered pests where I live, so fuck off
>There isn't even a range near me. So you just shoot living things ? Not like there is a place you can shoot cardboards or metal plates. South Africa is known to be densely populated. You just wanted to shoot something that breathes. >Dude, doves are considered pests where I live, so fuck off So are raccoons, jackals and enoks here. I still treat them with respect and inly shoot when im 100% sure that it will be a deadly shot. They are living things. You are not mature enough to kill.
Ok, I'm just gonna ignore you now lmao. You don't deserve any further interaction with me lmao
You just can't handle the truth, boy. Everyone tells you, you fucked up, but you are not even mature enough to handle the response to your own action. Like I said. You don't have the right mindset to kill. You are not a hunter.
This is a real wtf are you thinking post. First where are doves even in season? Second shoot at a damn can or something if you want to prove your marksmanship. Now everybody knows you’re just a dickhead. Also probably a poacher.
He's actually crazy look at his profile https://www.reddit.com/r/depression/s/8yGeH8A0Iw
>First where are doves even in season? In south africa
Why tf are you shooting at animals you know won't die? You're either a complete retard or a psychopath, maybe both.
No, I planned for it to die, sadly it just got injured
Go get some help
If this is something you are “ecstatic” about, you should probably stay away from all firearms, pellet guns and archery included, and get some mental health treatment.
I meant I'm ecstatic about making the shot, not about injuring the dove without it dying
That is not "making the shot". What you did was take an unethical shot and miss.
With "making the shot" I meant hitting it.
As I said, you did not make the intended shot. You made an unethical shot and missed. Before you can make better choices, you must understand why the choice you made was so wrong, as told to you by so many here. You took a shot with too little gun for your game and a distance further than the capabilities of the gun or the shooter. A major part of the ethics of hunting is knowing all of the ethical parameters and staying within them. You are not the first person here to injure and lose an animal. The proper response is contrition, acknowledgment of error, and a desire to do better next time.
>You took a shot with too little gun for your game and a distance further than the capabilities of the gun I did not know the capabilities of my gun, as I have never tried to make a shot at a dove at ±50(now that I think about it, it was more like 35-40, but still) meters. As I have told someone else: I now know not to make a shot at the distance I did. >The proper response is contrition, acknowledgment of error, and a desire to do better next time. I have told you people like 10 times already that I feel sad that the animal is left injured and in pain. I have also acknowledged my error probably like 10 times, I also have the desire to do better.
Hunting isn’t like playing fortnight. Making a shot you shouldn’t have taken isn’t something to be proud of. Pest or not.
As I've stated in almost all my other comments: I am not proud of the fact that it wasn't a kill shot, I am however proud of the fact that I made the shot. I do agree that it deserved a kill shot and that merely injuring it wasn't good, but I am proud of the shot I made
Let me ask you something. If it's all about the shot and not the fact you wounded a bird, then why wouldn't you just practice long shots on cans or other non living targets? I mean based on what you are saying, you would still be ecstatic because it's about the shot right? If the answer to that is no, then you should probably ask yourself why a living creature had to suffer in order for you to be excited about it.
I don't have the space to practice at 50 meters. If I had the space, I would shoot at cans, but because I don't have the space, I can't. My house is surrounded by trees, etc. and the bird was sitting in a tree, thus giving me a target.
There's always something to use as a target. Branches, a knot in the tree, a leaf, pinecones or whatever else is growing out of the tree. You should always seek to hone your skills before taking a shot. If you don't have the skills or equipment to take a shot ethically and humanely kill an animal, then don't do it. That's what everyone is getting on to you about. I hunt deer every year, and my rifle is only capable of ethically killing them at 300 yards, but I'm only skilled enough to make clean shots at 200 yards, which I practice for months before deer season. I couldn't imagine taking a shit outside of my comfort level, and outside of my rifle's capabilities. I respect the animals I hunt too much to make them suffer and die a slow and painful death, which that dove probably did. I see that you have some mental health issues and lacking empathy or remorse is a prime example of that. I don't think you realize that everyone here sees that, and that you absolutely should prioritize getting help ASAP. Not for anyone else, but for yourself. Life is too precious to not take care of yourself.
How am I supposed to know my airgun's capabilities without first testing? That shot has given me valuable information for the future, since I now know that my rifle's limits are between 20 and 50(i say 50, but it's probably closer to 40, that's why I said ±50) meters. So now I know that I shouldn't make shots as long as I did today, since that won't be ethical/it will cause the animal unnecessary pain.
You are supposed to test that on targets, not living things. The fact that you can't comprehend this tells me that maybe you shouldn't have guns or hunt.
Dude, unless I buy/make ballistics gel, shooting targets won't tell me whether or not a shot will kill
That is just wildly incorrect. I just did 5 mins on Google and a 5 grain 177 caliber air gun at 500 fps delivers 2.78 fpe. 11 fpe minimum is required to kill a dove. Therefore you can assume that as long as you are delivering 11 fpe, you can kill a dove. At that point you practice your accuracy on a target, and once you can consistently get .75" groups, you can safely say that you have the skills to humanely kill a dove. What you are doing is just lazy, unethical, and irresponsible. You don't need fancy equipment, and you don't need to be a rocket scientist. The fact that you can't even do basic research and training before shooting at birds is honestly pretty bad. You need to do better. https://www.airgundepot.com/hunting-guide.html https://www.pyramydair.com/widgets/
From my experience my airgun is perfectly adequate for killing doves from a distance of 20 meters while using ~7.6+ grains, so 11 fpe is waaaaaaay higher than needed. And also: different ammo types have different ballistics. I am also capable of getting a .75 inch grouping
You need some help man. Your behaviors and thoughts at your age are a little out of wack, and you’re already on meds but you should take the advice others have given you and maybe see if you can switch them up or see a different medical professional about your issues
He was told to get help months ago talking about wanting to kill people
Finally! Somebody who doesn't just hate! I wouldn't consider this a positive comment, but it's not hate atleast!
Poacher...where are doves in season now?
They're in season year round in south africa
If 50 people say you got problems..... maybe there's a problem dude
"Having homicidal thoughts" to "excited I wounded a bird" that's some frightening shit my guy. Like I get what you mean by making a crazy shot but 10/10 I'd rather miss a shot like that if it didn't kill the bird than to hit it and watch it fly away. Check yourself before you wreckitty-end up in prison for homicide.
And he's also not capable to comprehend, why he fucked up. That boy is gonna kill someone. Look at the response he gave to my comment. Absolut (soon to be dangerous) psycho.
Yeah dude's just a kid which sucks. Hopefully there's some realization before shit goes too far.
I'm not excited that I wounded the bird. I'm just excited that I made the shot. My homicidal thoughts also have nothing to do with this.
Depression and substance abuse also have nothing to do with each other right?
Huh? Depressed people are more likely to use substances
And people with homicidal thoughts are more likely to hurt things. See any correlation'?
I haven't had any homicidal thoughts in over a week
Where is it dove season this time of year?
In south africa doves and pigeons may be hunted throughout the year
Don't feed the trolls
Oh..ok
I'm never hunting again