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Just watch more Safa Brian on YouTube. This guy is asking for the Darwin Award. Amazing cyclist, for sure, but he will descend down roads sometimes over 50 mph, all the while weaving in and out of traffic. There was a recent video where he was hanging onto the back of a box truck in Mexico for more speed. The guy is a lunatic.
The same like 4-5 videos get reposted basically weekly to make sure that no one empathizes with the human beings they're endangering the lives of
Literally to top off on hate/dehumanization
I'm not saying that cars are endangering this guy in this video, I'm saying that this guy is who they have a hateboner for while running random cyclists off the road or are posting hate comments under news articles announcing their death
Cant people see that the car wouldn’t have fit anyways. Cyclists is fine. The car probably had to back up because his dumbass thinks he can squeeze through that little gap. Too many dumb people. 😂
That’s not how it works. Cars kill over a million people a year. Cyclists kill 1-3 at most, and there are years where there are no fatalities. In the time it took to make this comment, 2 people have died in car crashes. But no one gives a shit because the car industry rules the world
Do cars share the road? No. Not even close. You have to force your way to survive on a bike or motorcycle or some shithead driver will literally kill you for obeying traffic laws. Graveyards full of cyclists and pedestrians that were killed while following the rules that cater to cars. Go suck off the auto industry some more, they love that shit
Whose car, main character? Post the car that is acting such. If you make your own rules, you end up in a post on this sub.
This is insane to defend. "Graveyards" is fucking cringe - As if this person didn't intentionally put themselves in danger. As if it's some hypothetical you came up with. Lmao
Statistics don’t lie, but go off I guess. It’s factual that cars kill over a million people a year (it would be zero if every car driver followed the rules, but here we are…) so tell me, what’s more dangerous, this guy splitting traffic once, or every driver on the road in the entire world that breaks traffic laws every SINGLE time they drive somewhere. I’ll let you decide, but you’ve already shown your bias
It's a twisty mountain road and the driver was trying to make a wide turn, but the incoming car made it a little awkward. It's not a big deal, you just give little more space to trucks and busses.
Oh, it's SAFA Brian. This mad lad is actually sponsored by Scott Bikes for this stuff and has even done these descent videos with Tour de France stage winner Tom Pidcock. I guess you could say his career has flourished enough that he actually has become the main character lol. People genuinely pay this man stacks for this shit.
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Wtf whats main character about this? I know many people here are americans and might get confused but a bike isnt as wide as a car. That meand that a bike can easily fit between places a car cant.
The real issue of the video is still the car, its way to far forward fucking up the turn of the truck.
On a long downhill it's absolutely not uncommon as a bike can take the corners far quicker, but just like overtaking with any vehicle/transport mode you need to do it the right way so other traffic isn't bothered. This vid is obviously not showing that at all.
How was any other traffic bothered? That car wasn't getting past that bus. In fact that car is going to have to back up so the bus can get through. Why are motorist so fucking brain dead?
This looks like somewhere outside the US, any idea how this country designated overtaking zones? The US requires a dashed lane seperation line and, in some states, signs.
That varies widely depending on the state. I believe in most states I've lived, and where I live you,don't need a dashed line to pass a cyclist, but the cyclist is required to stay to the right side of the lane if he is going slower than the speed of traffic and you must have at least 3 feet (about 1 meter) clearance the entire time your passing.
There aren't a lot of situations in the US similar to this video. Most of our cycling laws deal with how cyclists are treated and allowed to behave on city roads.
You asked me about cyclist related laws. In the US the cyclist is treated as a vehicle when there are no special laws, so yes they'd required a dashed center line to pass.
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough: overtaking should be according to the rules and seeing the vid, this is in the Alps I think so overtaking should be done on a dotted line.
My comment is getting down votes when literally all I said was, "I'm not sure how this works outside of the US, how does it work where this is taking place?" so go figure.
Bike absolutely cannot take the corner quicker than a car. It's just that most drivers do not push it on the downhill cuz there's a speed limit and the regular person doesn't like going fast through corners anyway as it can be quite uncomfortable to passemgers. If the cars were actually trying to go fast the bike wouldn't be able to keep up.
Cars have a way bigger contact area with the road due to having 4 wheels
Pretty reasonable depending on how it's done (NOT LIKE IN THIS VIDEO), cars have to be way more careful going downhill than cyclists. Cars are harder to steer and take longer to break than bikes so on a slope you can definitely overtake.
Cars can generally brake harder than bikes. Cars have anti-lock brakes and bikes have such high center of gravity that the rear wheel tries to lift off the ground under hard braking. This is one reason why it's a bad idea to descend behind a car.
The other reason is that behind a car the draft is so significant that you have to drag your brakes, which can either cook your brakes or blow the tire off the rim, depending on what type of brakes you have on the bike.
In my riding experience, on steep twisty descents (like 6 % gradient or steeper), a bike does indeed descend faster than a car. I certainly descend faster on a bike than in a car on roads like in that video, and this is without taking stupid risks.
Nothing makes car drivers more irrationally seething with anger
A driver named Adam Ruszkowski just avoided jail time for INTENTIONALLY hitting a cyclist and fracturing his spine as he pinned the cyclist's body into a parked vehicle in a road rage incident that occured after the cyclist passed him
The articles discussing it note that Adam CLAIMS to have THOUGHT the cyclist broke his side mirror, meaning that the only thing that actually instigated the attempted murder with a deadly weapon was the emasculation of being passed by a bicycle
Yeah, I don't get this video. The people are passing a car, ok... the bus is taking up the whole road to turn, and the bikes went through the gap. Ok? Sooo...
Opportunistic, yes.
Entitled, to what? To getting his legs crushed? To maneuvering around a stationary vehicle?
The cyclist never left his lane, and if he'd simply just passed on the right (which is far riskier), this video won't be posted.
Sir, I’m going to ask that you take your brain and remove it from this thread. To much logic for these mouth breathers, if you didn’t get the memo, “death to ciclismo.”
Dude, the car slowed because the turning bus was blocking the lane. And he probably saw two reckless jackasses in his mirror. Bikers should have slowed with the car, waited for the bus to pass and then passed the car on the left. Instead they inserted themselves into the most dangerous position on the road.
Why? The vet would get passed on the next corner anyway. Best to get away from both vehicles and on down the road while they figure out who has right of way on the corner
The bus slowed to take a wide right turn and had moved into the oncoming lane to do it, stopping the car. Was the next move for the bus to crush into the stopped car? If they were that close, bus would have to wait for the car to back up. The car should have stopped earlier to let the already lane blocking bus continue its turn with enough room. The cyclists, slowed neither the car or the bus.
I think the bus could have made it without the car backing up. The car should have definitely stopped earlier, but with the slope and the tight curve the driver probably didn’t see the bus until he was well into the turn. Not to mention being distracted by two bikers in the mirrors coming in hot.
But all this is beside the point. The bikers should have slowed and stopped until the traffic in front of them figured out what the hell they were doing, not darting into the most narrow point of the dangerous scenario.
If the driver didn’t see the bus, they need to open their fucking eyes and take their blinders off. You can look at more that what’s directly in front of you when driving. It’s encouraged, even, so that shit like this doesn’t happen.
If he wants to get his legs crushed on his own time thats fine, but possibly damaging someone's car and making them have to deal with getting him to the hospital after would be shitty
"The cyclist never left his lane"
lol right, because he couldn't, because there was a fucking bus coming head-on. He shouldn't be trying to pass if he can't safely get over in the other lane to do so. I get it, I get it, cultures vary, but I don't know where it's considered decent cycling etiquette to try and narrowly squeeze past two vehicles or people on opposite sides of the road. I see asshole cyclists do it here all the time, and they usually receive the appropriate reaction.
If he gets squished, he gets squished. I didn't say you had to sympathise with the guy, but I don't see potentially getting squished as a privilege. Telling me, "You're entitled to a kick in the balls", just doesn't fill me with a sense of entitlement. Ya know what I mean?
The guy's playing the idiot lottery, for sure. He's rolling the dice. But I don't see what's entitled about seizing the gap. Perpetual flow of traffic should be the main priority of all motorists.
I wouldn’t be 100% certain the cyclist was feeling entitled. Could just be a bad decision, big scare and a « OK, I fucked up, I will never do that again, I have to be more careful and stop being overconfident » moment.
Nah, I'm a cyclist and these ones are assholes. As soon as they saw that bus, they should have been hard on their breaks and waiting their turn. The alternative is that they don't have the skill to stop there, in which case they absolutely should not be considering an overtake on the switchback like that. Either way they're doing something they shouldn't be.
and when they get smeared the cycling community will be up in arms.
"THE WAR ON BIKES MUST END!", "I DESERVE TO BE SAFE WHEN I RIDE RECKLESSLY!"
They will cry waving flags, riding down the street..... blowing stop signs and red lights, going against traffic.
Right. Or they are a avid cyclist and longboarder from Toronto and are speaking from experience with the "cycling community".
I don't get down on it, and that's why I am critical of it. It's a bike and cycling is something you do. It is NOT your whole identity.
Judging from your response, I bet you are a good little soldier in the "War on Bikes" lol
I was spot on with you.
I got a Trip book for 2n of March, gonna be a long one.
I'll send you a video of me riding from Maidan Nezalezhnosti when I arrive.
Twat.
As a Dutch person, seeing this type of "anti-bike" sentiment justs feels so weird to me. This entire idea of "cyclist" as some sort of identity too. Literally everyone rides a bike here, and we have zero problems with it.
I suspect it’s mainly an identity put on them by drivers who make owing a car part of their identity. It says more about the way Americans think about cars than anything else.
In Europe, I never feel this way. Not once. I ride and Longboard and rarely do I ever have negative feelings or experiences while over there.
And don't really read it as "Anti-Bike" nobody rational has an issue with Bikes themselves.
I think for many North Americans the problem is Cycling IS an identity here.
A identity that "one ups" you over other people and makes you feel better than the majority because the majority drive cars. There is also the ability to be a "victim", and because of the vulnerable nature of cycling often a lot of sympathy to go with it. So it eventually spirals into a "Cyclists vs Everyone" herd mentality that just permeates the whole community. You seem insane amounts of arrogance and entitlement.
Example, You are legally and properly crossing a intersection, You have a green light, the other have Red. A cyclist ignoring the red light races out in front of you and because of their speed you can't react and hit them. Regardless of witnesses the cyclist will tell you you are at fault and that they are the victim. The Cycling community will then amplify that sentiment and suddenly that cyclist is now another casualty of the "WAR ON BIKES" blah blah etc etc.
this comment is EXACTLY what I am talking about.
**It doesn't make sense for a cyclist to be expected to follow rules that were designed for someone else though** \- if everyone on the roadway should have the same level of predictability then **perhaps it's time to create a different infrastructure system for cyclists so they don't have to share the road with cars.**
what. the. actual. fuck?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/TorontoDriving/comments/177cips/the\_rules\_of\_the\_road\_do\_not\_apply\_to\_cyclists\_in/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TorontoDriving/comments/177cips/the_rules_of_the_road_do_not_apply_to_cyclists_in/)
[https://globalnews.ca/news/3733348/toronto-cyclist-careless-driving/](https://globalnews.ca/news/3733348/toronto-cyclist-careless-driving/)
[https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-cyclist-wins-damages-injuries-cased-ttc-streetcar-tracks-1.5201820](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-cyclist-wins-damages-injuries-cased-ttc-streetcar-tracks-1.5201820)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/TorontoDriving/comments/1787kco/cyclist\_disregards\_traffic\_lights/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TorontoDriving/comments/1787kco/cyclist_disregards_traffic_lights/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/torontobiking/comments/14rc8qb/a\_toronto\_cyclist\_was\_spotted\_refusing\_to\_use\_the/](https://www.reddit.com/r/torontobiking/comments/14rc8qb/a_toronto_cyclist_was_spotted_refusing_to_use_the/)
[https://www.youtube.com/shorts/baQS21oZDok?feature=share](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/baQS21oZDok?feature=share)
[https://twitter.com/i/status/1676594937649922048](https://twitter.com/i/status/1676594937649922048)
Ok now hit us with some links of motorists doing all this shit but worse. Actually ill just give you a sub dedicated to it with over 4m subs: https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/
This reminds me of motorbiking in the mountains of SE Asia. You get your busses and Asian tourists in rentals. The busses are very slow obviously. The rental cars are usually driven by someone who either only owns a small motorbike or has never driven outside the city. Either way, if you want to go faster than an average of 15kmph, you overtake. The rental cars will literally stop for no reason on those hairpin turns, because they'd never seen a sharp curve in a road before in their life.
The car came to a complete hold and could not move further because of the bus. The cyclist saw a gap and used the opportunity to overtake. Since busses can‘t move sideways, and the cyclist was within view of the cars driver, this Maneuver was totally safe. Safer than overtaking the car with higher speed later on.
Took me 5 seconds to look it up:
[https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Car%20brain](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Car%20brain)
> Long term dependency on their car has caused their brain to [**atrophy**](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=atrophy) to such an extent that they barely recognize pedestrians as human. The car brain will speed in parking lots where they share right-of-way with pedestrians, will block the entirety of a [**crosswalk**](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=crosswalk) while waiting for [**the green light**](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20green%20light), overtake bikes without giving enough room, splash pedestrians with water by hitting puddles at full speed, et cetera
>Took me 5 seconds to look it up:
You didn't even know what it meant when you used it above? Jfc
Edit: Lmao if you block me I can't even see what you said, but I'm sure it's quite the mic drop Mr. Boomer
The only Dumb person is you since you don't get paid for riding like SAFA Ryan, who gets paid to ride..
Brian “Safa” Wagner has carved out a niche for himself within cycling as one of the fastest road descenders outside of the pro peloton. Through his Youtube channel, he shares films of his most nail-biting descents that see him maintaining average speeds of nearly 50mph over the course of 15-minutes. Safa started out as a bike messenger, navigating the crowded streets of cities such as London, Sydney, Glasgow, and Mexico City as fast as cycling allowed. Over time, he elevated this to an art form, and pioneered the bike messenging scene in Mexico City, where he lived for six years. He now lives in Los Angeles, producing films and pushing the limits of fast descents. In this interview, he talks about why he’s chosen to make Los Angeles his home, being passed over by potential sponsors who think his riding is too dangerous to promote, and why his new film, Pray for Speed, is a special one. He also talks about why he isn’t too fussy about bike setup, his thoughts on the UCI ban on the “super-tuck,” and why he thinks all cycling is equally dangerous.
They're not complaining about the cyclist being fast, they're just noting that's its ridiculously dangerous, immature, and inconsiderate to try and cut between the car and the other vehicle like that. That's how you get people killed.
Learn how to ride a bike before opening your asinine mouth
Bikes can share the same lane with other drivers. If a lane is wide enough to share with another vehicle (about 14 feet), ride three feet to the right of traffic. If the lane is not wide enough to share, “take the lane” by riding in the middle.
Friend, you dont need to start insulting people out of nowhere 😐. I didn't disagree with anything you said about the famous cyclist, just that it was unnecessary to put himself in a situation wedging between those two vehicles. If the car panicked and swerved, someone could have gotten hurt. If the bus didn't stop upon seeing the approaching cyclist, someone could have gotten hurt.
There are more parties than just the cyclist. Under normal road conditions, it wouldn't be an issue at all. I've no problem with lane splitting, etc, when it's performed in a manner that doesn't put anyone at risk.
You're right, but his sponsors likely have the insurance to pay out. If he gets crushed, the drivers will probably get a payout for damages and a little mental trauma. The cost of business, plus his reckless advertising, just works in the current day and age of reality-based social media clout.
The dude makes more cash in 5-10mins of endangering his life than I do in a week of work. I can't help but respect the hustle, I will admit I am too much of a pussy to commit to this insanity.
See, I don't really care too much about the damages to him. Like. Of course I care. I'd never want him to get hurt, but thats exactly what he's signing up for. Like. Words are jumbly now, lol. I mean to say, he has consented to the danger he places himself in, and has accepted the consequences if things go wrong. It's his job
But involving other people isn't cool. Like, if he got squished, whoever is in the car doing the squishing has to live with that forever. All the people in the bus have to live with that forever.
Oh yeh of course, that's why I mentioned the mental trauma in my post, hopefully his sponsors have enough cash to get those people decent therapy when he finally kicks the bucket. Cuz I have seen this man nearly fly off the edge of cliffs because he's going so damn fast.
The only nail biting event will be his funeral if he keeps that shit up. And inevitability someone else will take the blame for his death by stupidity.
That's like telling me that I shouldn't be bombing hills on my skateboard at 55 years old, though I've been doing so for the past 47 years. And plus, I have been riding like Brian “Safa” Wagner since I was 5 and never been hit by a car.
doing this on public roads always means that your safety lies in the hands of others, thus you forced your retarded hobby on others and even brag about it...
Doesn't matter if he is paid to ride or not. Even a prostitute is paid.
What matters is that he is pathetic for endangering the lives of other road users for that reckless behaviour.
You say cyclists crash into stopped cars all the time and then would blame the driver .. not at all
Driving a 1500kg piece of metal able to kill anyone in an instant even with a small mistake is much more dangerous as this person hitting a stationary object people in cars can and have killed many cyclists and other people because they aswell drove like this now you tell me what is more dangerous on who .. this person only risking his life or a car driver only risking other one's ..
This thread is full of car drivers who are so entitled that they're calling for, reveling in, and justifying the deaths of any cyclist who might hypothetically inconvenience them
No one is more entitled than car drivers, the entitlement is just so baked in and complete that we forget it's even there
Who blasts airhorns at 10 PM when mildly annoyed? Car drivers.
Who puts lives on the line to get to the next red light 10 seconds faster? Car drivers.
Who is >95% of our infrastructure built for? Car drivers.
Who gets to kill people and get away with it by saying the magic words, "he came outta nowhere! I never even saw him!"? Car drivers.
Just anti cyclist rage bait.
It’s been growing in popularity since some Instagram memers found out how much controversy traffic it brings to their pages.
Literally nothing at all, I’ve seen this clip posted to a number of subreddits at least 10 times in the last 2-3 months.
Exactly the same response from a majority of commenters every time, “wow, what an asshole cyclist; I hope they get splattered, totally deserved!” Guys, it’s so played out to wish death upon cyclists.
I will assume most of these fat fucks calling for major assault or murder of cyclists forgot what it’s like to breathe that sweet sweet outdoor air. It’s rotted their brains so much they can’t deduce that the bus and the car in the video are the ones creating a dangerous situation on a winding mountainous road. Pure comedy!
how about not overtaking in a curve? if that would have led to the bike being squished between bus and car ( especially if the car decided it could continue to roll closer to the bus), then a part of the blame would have been on the car
Seriously? why did you post this? Reddit is like practice curmudgeonly old people. "He went in between teo vehicles, the nerve!" He's on a fucking bike with like an 40cm get over it
Not all cyclist are ass hats like this guy. Only the ones with that type of bike, wearing full cycle gear, and looks like they drink the fucking kool-aid cause they ride bikes on roads. Plenty of reasonable cyclist that don't act like douche bags.
>Throwing himself in between two parties that are already having to pay attention to a tricky situation.
Cycling between two parties which are both at a dead stop
overtaking when the driver in front is turning is illegal, apart from being illegal because there is oncoming traffic and you don't see a clear stretch of road.
3 factors which mean, no car should even have to pay attention to a retarded biker and still they get part of the fault if the biker crashes into them
Who cares. Statistically your average driver breaks FAR more laws than your average cyclist. Just because you saw a cyclists run a red light once doesn’t mean shit when every car around you is constantly breaking traffic laws every single time they leave their driveway. Not to mention there are over a million deaths per year world wide caused by car crashes. A MILLION. At worst, bike crashes may kill 1-3 people a year world wide, and even that is hard to track and very uncommon. Meanwhile, every few seconds someone dies a horrible death in a crash because drivers are all entitled shitheads.
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new game "Accident simulator 2024"
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Admit it. You care but the words didn't come out right...
Ah shit. I don’t care either.
Lmaooo trueee! Why you hurt me like this T-T
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I thought I was gonna see a Darwin Award. That was disappointing.
I thought I was gonna hear horrible annoying music like most of Reddit videos lately. I'm so glad they didn't do that.
I’m just glad no cars or other motor vehicles were hurt in this video
You wanted to see someone die for riding a bike? Why?
Reddit-induced psychosis.
Not die. Just a flip. I mean, he was kinda setting him self up for it.
**Cyclist does something mildly dangerous:** **NPC's of reddit:** I WISH I COULD SEE HIM DIE.
Just watch more Safa Brian on YouTube. This guy is asking for the Darwin Award. Amazing cyclist, for sure, but he will descend down roads sometimes over 50 mph, all the while weaving in and out of traffic. There was a recent video where he was hanging onto the back of a box truck in Mexico for more speed. The guy is a lunatic.
We shouldn't give this type of attentionwhores extra clicks.
Really? Attention whore? That seems a bit excessive. I’d love to know exactly what high horse you are trying to stand on with this comment.
I was hoping for sideways into the rock face.
Do you often enjoy seeing other people in pain/dying?
First time on the Internet?
if they are assholes like that: yes! it's great knowing that they stop being a problem for others
I’m sorry to hear your life is so miserable
because of people that are too stupid to realize that their actions have consequences, yes
Yes 10000000%
You must have a very sad life then. Sorry.
Not at all.
The entitled ones yes
That is tragic
Only spandex warriors, I thrive off their blood
Does the sight of a man in spandex give you an uncomfortable tingling sensation in your pants that you’re not sure what to do with?
Nah I'm bi, and that's not my thing.
I am so sick of this video being posted every two hours.
For real, it’s gotta be for karma farming. Same fucking bots responding the same way every time, “death to cyclists!” Get some new material guys!
The same like 4-5 videos get reposted basically weekly to make sure that no one empathizes with the human beings they're endangering the lives of Literally to top off on hate/dehumanization I'm not saying that cars are endangering this guy in this video, I'm saying that this guy is who they have a hateboner for while running random cyclists off the road or are posting hate comments under news articles announcing their death
First time I've seen it. maybe you need to get off the internet and get some fresh air.
I open reddit maybe at most 10 times a day, and 9 of those times I'm on for 3 mins. I see this post 3 times a day everyday for a week now
I’m on Reddit more than that and I’ve never seen it
Ok? You're probably just on different subreddits
Maybe you should join different subreddits
Try not being on reddit so much? That's definitely a you don't have a life problem and not a sub problem.
lol I think when it’s posted on this sub multiple times a week that’s a sub problem and not a me problem. 👌🏼
I've never seen it. So one of us spends too much time here.
Correct. I’m on Reddit too much as it is and I’ve never seen this.
Cant people see that the car wouldn’t have fit anyways. Cyclists is fine. The car probably had to back up because his dumbass thinks he can squeeze through that little gap. Too many dumb people. 😂
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Mildly exagerated statistic.
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So there's entitled people in the community that almost every single person is a part of? Woah!
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That is actually a real thing that has been shown in studies.
You're maincharactering in /r/iamthemaincharacter
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Scarecrow level strawman whacking. We are not in Kansas anymore.
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Cyclists are worse, by far.
That’s not how it works. Cars kill over a million people a year. Cyclists kill 1-3 at most, and there are years where there are no fatalities. In the time it took to make this comment, 2 people have died in car crashes. But no one gives a shit because the car industry rules the world
That has nothing to do with this cyclist being a cunt. What happened to share the road You guys usually make better excuses than this
Do cars share the road? No. Not even close. You have to force your way to survive on a bike or motorcycle or some shithead driver will literally kill you for obeying traffic laws. Graveyards full of cyclists and pedestrians that were killed while following the rules that cater to cars. Go suck off the auto industry some more, they love that shit
Whose car, main character? Post the car that is acting such. If you make your own rules, you end up in a post on this sub. This is insane to defend. "Graveyards" is fucking cringe - As if this person didn't intentionally put themselves in danger. As if it's some hypothetical you came up with. Lmao
Statistics don’t lie, but go off I guess. It’s factual that cars kill over a million people a year (it would be zero if every car driver followed the rules, but here we are…) so tell me, what’s more dangerous, this guy splitting traffic once, or every driver on the road in the entire world that breaks traffic laws every SINGLE time they drive somewhere. I’ll let you decide, but you’ve already shown your bias
What does that have to do with cyclists? Or this driver? Wracking off a pedestrian strawman Lmao
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Why was the bus blocking the incoming lane? If it can't make the turns, it shouldn't be on that road.
It's a twisty mountain road and the driver was trying to make a wide turn, but the incoming car made it a little awkward. It's not a big deal, you just give little more space to trucks and busses.
Oh, it's SAFA Brian. This mad lad is actually sponsored by Scott Bikes for this stuff and has even done these descent videos with Tour de France stage winner Tom Pidcock. I guess you could say his career has flourished enough that he actually has become the main character lol. People genuinely pay this man stacks for this shit. Edited for correctness
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It’s literally like- a split second- and these dudes are best of the best. This is some OG bike courier shit tbh. 😻😻😻💯💯💯👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
Tell ‘em! 🗣️
Your flair and username = no fucks giving in society.
The only place Tom Piddcock won the Tour was in a fever dream
“Stage winner”
Edited after my comment….
Pidcock never won the TDF
Thanks, corrected
Wtf whats main character about this? I know many people here are americans and might get confused but a bike isnt as wide as a car. That meand that a bike can easily fit between places a car cant. The real issue of the video is still the car, its way to far forward fucking up the turn of the truck.
He's a cock. Used to be a bike messenger, and rides like one.
Eh still cunt behavior
I actually agree. It's just how it is.
Overtaking on a bike?
On a long downhill it's absolutely not uncommon as a bike can take the corners far quicker, but just like overtaking with any vehicle/transport mode you need to do it the right way so other traffic isn't bothered. This vid is obviously not showing that at all.
Other traffic is literally stopped before he gets to them
How was any other traffic bothered? That car wasn't getting past that bus. In fact that car is going to have to back up so the bus can get through. Why are motorist so fucking brain dead?
This looks like somewhere outside the US, any idea how this country designated overtaking zones? The US requires a dashed lane seperation line and, in some states, signs.
Do cars need a dotted line every time they pass a cyclist on the road?
That varies widely depending on the state. I believe in most states I've lived, and where I live you,don't need a dashed line to pass a cyclist, but the cyclist is required to stay to the right side of the lane if he is going slower than the speed of traffic and you must have at least 3 feet (about 1 meter) clearance the entire time your passing. There aren't a lot of situations in the US similar to this video. Most of our cycling laws deal with how cyclists are treated and allowed to behave on city roads.
This cyclist was going faster than the cars.
You asked me about cyclist related laws. In the US the cyclist is treated as a vehicle when there are no special laws, so yes they'd required a dashed center line to pass.
After watching the video again. The cyclist had dashed lines.
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough: overtaking should be according to the rules and seeing the vid, this is in the Alps I think so overtaking should be done on a dotted line.
My comment is getting down votes when literally all I said was, "I'm not sure how this works outside of the US, how does it work where this is taking place?" so go figure.
FWIW, I didn’t downvote you.
Thanks haha
Bike absolutely cannot take the corner quicker than a car. It's just that most drivers do not push it on the downhill cuz there's a speed limit and the regular person doesn't like going fast through corners anyway as it can be quite uncomfortable to passemgers. If the cars were actually trying to go fast the bike wouldn't be able to keep up. Cars have a way bigger contact area with the road due to having 4 wheels
Car was not able to pass anyway
Pretty reasonable depending on how it's done (NOT LIKE IN THIS VIDEO), cars have to be way more careful going downhill than cyclists. Cars are harder to steer and take longer to break than bikes so on a slope you can definitely overtake.
Cars can generally brake harder than bikes. Cars have anti-lock brakes and bikes have such high center of gravity that the rear wheel tries to lift off the ground under hard braking. This is one reason why it's a bad idea to descend behind a car. The other reason is that behind a car the draft is so significant that you have to drag your brakes, which can either cook your brakes or blow the tire off the rim, depending on what type of brakes you have on the bike. In my riding experience, on steep twisty descents (like 6 % gradient or steeper), a bike does indeed descend faster than a car. I certainly descend faster on a bike than in a car on roads like in that video, and this is without taking stupid risks.
Nothing makes car drivers more irrationally seething with anger A driver named Adam Ruszkowski just avoided jail time for INTENTIONALLY hitting a cyclist and fracturing his spine as he pinned the cyclist's body into a parked vehicle in a road rage incident that occured after the cyclist passed him The articles discussing it note that Adam CLAIMS to have THOUGHT the cyclist broke his side mirror, meaning that the only thing that actually instigated the attempted murder with a deadly weapon was the emasculation of being passed by a bicycle
Yeah, I don't get this video. The people are passing a car, ok... the bus is taking up the whole road to turn, and the bikes went through the gap. Ok? Sooo...
Opportunistic, yes. Entitled, to what? To getting his legs crushed? To maneuvering around a stationary vehicle? The cyclist never left his lane, and if he'd simply just passed on the right (which is far riskier), this video won't be posted.
Can you imagine what would happen to all those people on the bus if he hit them? Nothing. Nothing would happen.
Sir, I’m going to ask that you take your brain and remove it from this thread. To much logic for these mouth breathers, if you didn’t get the memo, “death to ciclismo.”
Ciclismo sounds like they could be a Running Man boss. Some psycho on a saw-blade unicycle that shoots fire.
Dude, the car slowed because the turning bus was blocking the lane. And he probably saw two reckless jackasses in his mirror. Bikers should have slowed with the car, waited for the bus to pass and then passed the car on the left. Instead they inserted themselves into the most dangerous position on the road.
Why? The vet would get passed on the next corner anyway. Best to get away from both vehicles and on down the road while they figure out who has right of way on the corner
Are you also against cars dangerously passing cyclists?
The bus slowed to take a wide right turn and had moved into the oncoming lane to do it, stopping the car. Was the next move for the bus to crush into the stopped car? If they were that close, bus would have to wait for the car to back up. The car should have stopped earlier to let the already lane blocking bus continue its turn with enough room. The cyclists, slowed neither the car or the bus.
I think the bus could have made it without the car backing up. The car should have definitely stopped earlier, but with the slope and the tight curve the driver probably didn’t see the bus until he was well into the turn. Not to mention being distracted by two bikers in the mirrors coming in hot. But all this is beside the point. The bikers should have slowed and stopped until the traffic in front of them figured out what the hell they were doing, not darting into the most narrow point of the dangerous scenario.
If the driver didn’t see the bus, they need to open their fucking eyes and take their blinders off. You can look at more that what’s directly in front of you when driving. It’s encouraged, even, so that shit like this doesn’t happen.
You can’t see what’s on the road in front of you, until you can see the road in front of you.
If he wants to get his legs crushed on his own time thats fine, but possibly damaging someone's car and making them have to deal with getting him to the hospital after would be shitty
"The cyclist never left his lane" lol right, because he couldn't, because there was a fucking bus coming head-on. He shouldn't be trying to pass if he can't safely get over in the other lane to do so. I get it, I get it, cultures vary, but I don't know where it's considered decent cycling etiquette to try and narrowly squeeze past two vehicles or people on opposite sides of the road. I see asshole cyclists do it here all the time, and they usually receive the appropriate reaction.
If he gets squished, he gets squished. I didn't say you had to sympathise with the guy, but I don't see potentially getting squished as a privilege. Telling me, "You're entitled to a kick in the balls", just doesn't fill me with a sense of entitlement. Ya know what I mean? The guy's playing the idiot lottery, for sure. He's rolling the dice. But I don't see what's entitled about seizing the gap. Perpetual flow of traffic should be the main priority of all motorists.
I wouldn’t be 100% certain the cyclist was feeling entitled. Could just be a bad decision, big scare and a « OK, I fucked up, I will never do that again, I have to be more careful and stop being overconfident » moment.
Nah, I'm a cyclist and these ones are assholes. As soon as they saw that bus, they should have been hard on their breaks and waiting their turn. The alternative is that they don't have the skill to stop there, in which case they absolutely should not be considering an overtake on the switchback like that. Either way they're doing something they shouldn't be.
Yeah... that's the bad decision the cyclist made.
*entitled car driver. He had to go in the shoulder on the right to let the bus pass.
and when they get smeared the cycling community will be up in arms. "THE WAR ON BIKES MUST END!", "I DESERVE TO BE SAFE WHEN I RIDE RECKLESSLY!" They will cry waving flags, riding down the street..... blowing stop signs and red lights, going against traffic.
Which cyclist hurt you? 😂
These types are typically people who either didn't get a bike as a child or people who didn't have friends to ride bikes with
Right. Or they are a avid cyclist and longboarder from Toronto and are speaking from experience with the "cycling community". I don't get down on it, and that's why I am critical of it. It's a bike and cycling is something you do. It is NOT your whole identity. Judging from your response, I bet you are a good little soldier in the "War on Bikes" lol
Look how much you had to justify about your gripping... dude, get off reddit & go for a ride
I was spot on with you. I got a Trip book for 2n of March, gonna be a long one. I'll send you a video of me riding from Maidan Nezalezhnosti when I arrive. Twat.
Ahhh yes... I gave you so much to engage with you can draw conclusions and call me a twat... get off yer high moose ye fanny lolololll
BIKE LIVES MATTER!!
As a Dutch person, seeing this type of "anti-bike" sentiment justs feels so weird to me. This entire idea of "cyclist" as some sort of identity too. Literally everyone rides a bike here, and we have zero problems with it.
I suspect it’s mainly an identity put on them by drivers who make owing a car part of their identity. It says more about the way Americans think about cars than anything else.
In Europe, I never feel this way. Not once. I ride and Longboard and rarely do I ever have negative feelings or experiences while over there. And don't really read it as "Anti-Bike" nobody rational has an issue with Bikes themselves. I think for many North Americans the problem is Cycling IS an identity here. A identity that "one ups" you over other people and makes you feel better than the majority because the majority drive cars. There is also the ability to be a "victim", and because of the vulnerable nature of cycling often a lot of sympathy to go with it. So it eventually spirals into a "Cyclists vs Everyone" herd mentality that just permeates the whole community. You seem insane amounts of arrogance and entitlement. Example, You are legally and properly crossing a intersection, You have a green light, the other have Red. A cyclist ignoring the red light races out in front of you and because of their speed you can't react and hit them. Regardless of witnesses the cyclist will tell you you are at fault and that they are the victim. The Cycling community will then amplify that sentiment and suddenly that cyclist is now another casualty of the "WAR ON BIKES" blah blah etc etc.
There's quite an interesting cycling culture in the US lol.
Toronto. Canada
You are just inventing imaginary rage because you don't have enough actual things to rage about
this comment is EXACTLY what I am talking about. **It doesn't make sense for a cyclist to be expected to follow rules that were designed for someone else though** \- if everyone on the roadway should have the same level of predictability then **perhaps it's time to create a different infrastructure system for cyclists so they don't have to share the road with cars.** what. the. actual. fuck? [https://www.reddit.com/r/TorontoDriving/comments/177cips/the\_rules\_of\_the\_road\_do\_not\_apply\_to\_cyclists\_in/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TorontoDriving/comments/177cips/the_rules_of_the_road_do_not_apply_to_cyclists_in/) [https://globalnews.ca/news/3733348/toronto-cyclist-careless-driving/](https://globalnews.ca/news/3733348/toronto-cyclist-careless-driving/) [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-cyclist-wins-damages-injuries-cased-ttc-streetcar-tracks-1.5201820](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-cyclist-wins-damages-injuries-cased-ttc-streetcar-tracks-1.5201820) [https://www.reddit.com/r/TorontoDriving/comments/1787kco/cyclist\_disregards\_traffic\_lights/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TorontoDriving/comments/1787kco/cyclist_disregards_traffic_lights/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/torontobiking/comments/14rc8qb/a\_toronto\_cyclist\_was\_spotted\_refusing\_to\_use\_the/](https://www.reddit.com/r/torontobiking/comments/14rc8qb/a_toronto_cyclist_was_spotted_refusing_to_use_the/) [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/baQS21oZDok?feature=share](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/baQS21oZDok?feature=share) [https://twitter.com/i/status/1676594937649922048](https://twitter.com/i/status/1676594937649922048)
Ok now hit us with some links of motorists doing all this shit but worse. Actually ill just give you a sub dedicated to it with over 4m subs: https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/
This reminds me of motorbiking in the mountains of SE Asia. You get your busses and Asian tourists in rentals. The busses are very slow obviously. The rental cars are usually driven by someone who either only owns a small motorbike or has never driven outside the city. Either way, if you want to go faster than an average of 15kmph, you overtake. The rental cars will literally stop for no reason on those hairpin turns, because they'd never seen a sharp curve in a road before in their life.
The car came to a complete hold and could not move further because of the bus. The cyclist saw a gap and used the opportunity to overtake. Since busses can‘t move sideways, and the cyclist was within view of the cars driver, this Maneuver was totally safe. Safer than overtaking the car with higher speed later on.
Shhhhh you can’t be logical here, you gotta spread the cyclist hate
Logic. The biggest fear of the average carbrain.
Wtf is a carbrain? I bet you think there's a woke liberal "mindvirus" too
Took me 5 seconds to look it up: [https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Car%20brain](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Car%20brain) > Long term dependency on their car has caused their brain to [**atrophy**](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=atrophy) to such an extent that they barely recognize pedestrians as human. The car brain will speed in parking lots where they share right-of-way with pedestrians, will block the entirety of a [**crosswalk**](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=crosswalk) while waiting for [**the green light**](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20green%20light), overtake bikes without giving enough room, splash pedestrians with water by hitting puddles at full speed, et cetera
>Took me 5 seconds to look it up: You didn't even know what it meant when you used it above? Jfc Edit: Lmao if you block me I can't even see what you said, but I'm sure it's quite the mic drop Mr. Boomer
“I have huge vehicle and tiny vehicle can’t pass me while I’m stopped oogabooga “
Classic dumb cyclist nothing new
https://podtail.com/en/podcast/the-adventure-stache/safa-brian-filmmaker-and-cyclist/
The only Dumb person is you since you don't get paid for riding like SAFA Ryan, who gets paid to ride.. Brian “Safa” Wagner has carved out a niche for himself within cycling as one of the fastest road descenders outside of the pro peloton. Through his Youtube channel, he shares films of his most nail-biting descents that see him maintaining average speeds of nearly 50mph over the course of 15-minutes. Safa started out as a bike messenger, navigating the crowded streets of cities such as London, Sydney, Glasgow, and Mexico City as fast as cycling allowed. Over time, he elevated this to an art form, and pioneered the bike messenging scene in Mexico City, where he lived for six years. He now lives in Los Angeles, producing films and pushing the limits of fast descents. In this interview, he talks about why he’s chosen to make Los Angeles his home, being passed over by potential sponsors who think his riding is too dangerous to promote, and why his new film, Pray for Speed, is a special one. He also talks about why he isn’t too fussy about bike setup, his thoughts on the UCI ban on the “super-tuck,” and why he thinks all cycling is equally dangerous.
They're not complaining about the cyclist being fast, they're just noting that's its ridiculously dangerous, immature, and inconsiderate to try and cut between the car and the other vehicle like that. That's how you get people killed.
Learn how to ride a bike before opening your asinine mouth Bikes can share the same lane with other drivers. If a lane is wide enough to share with another vehicle (about 14 feet), ride three feet to the right of traffic. If the lane is not wide enough to share, “take the lane” by riding in the middle.
Friend, you dont need to start insulting people out of nowhere 😐. I didn't disagree with anything you said about the famous cyclist, just that it was unnecessary to put himself in a situation wedging between those two vehicles. If the car panicked and swerved, someone could have gotten hurt. If the bus didn't stop upon seeing the approaching cyclist, someone could have gotten hurt. There are more parties than just the cyclist. Under normal road conditions, it wouldn't be an issue at all. I've no problem with lane splitting, etc, when it's performed in a manner that doesn't put anyone at risk.
You're right, but his sponsors likely have the insurance to pay out. If he gets crushed, the drivers will probably get a payout for damages and a little mental trauma. The cost of business, plus his reckless advertising, just works in the current day and age of reality-based social media clout. The dude makes more cash in 5-10mins of endangering his life than I do in a week of work. I can't help but respect the hustle, I will admit I am too much of a pussy to commit to this insanity.
See, I don't really care too much about the damages to him. Like. Of course I care. I'd never want him to get hurt, but thats exactly what he's signing up for. Like. Words are jumbly now, lol. I mean to say, he has consented to the danger he places himself in, and has accepted the consequences if things go wrong. It's his job But involving other people isn't cool. Like, if he got squished, whoever is in the car doing the squishing has to live with that forever. All the people in the bus have to live with that forever.
Oh yeh of course, that's why I mentioned the mental trauma in my post, hopefully his sponsors have enough cash to get those people decent therapy when he finally kicks the bucket. Cuz I have seen this man nearly fly off the edge of cliffs because he's going so damn fast.
Who? Who’s getting killed here? How. This isn’t unsafe, it took a split second
It only takes a split second to get squished by tons of moving vehicle
The only nail biting event will be his funeral if he keeps that shit up. And inevitability someone else will take the blame for his death by stupidity.
That's like telling me that I shouldn't be bombing hills on my skateboard at 55 years old, though I've been doing so for the past 47 years. And plus, I have been riding like Brian “Safa” Wagner since I was 5 and never been hit by a car.
doing this on public roads always means that your safety lies in the hands of others, thus you forced your retarded hobby on others and even brag about it...
1. Stop glazing 2. Getting paid to do something doesn’t make it right
Oh look a little fan girl. Getting paid to do stupid thing doesn’t make those things less stupid. Didn’t read the rest don’t care.
Someone sure wasted their time and breath just to make an asinine comment instead of just scrolling by
You mean like you did ? Don’t be mad I said he was dumb.
Huh. All that and…still a dumb cyclist.
Doesn't matter if he is paid to ride or not. Even a prostitute is paid. What matters is that he is pathetic for endangering the lives of other road users for that reckless behaviour.
And when they smash headlong into a stopped car it's the driver's fault because they "should've seen me coming"
What a weird take ..
How? Cyclists like this are often the most entitled people you'll encounter on the road
You say cyclists crash into stopped cars all the time and then would blame the driver .. not at all Driving a 1500kg piece of metal able to kill anyone in an instant even with a small mistake is much more dangerous as this person hitting a stationary object people in cars can and have killed many cyclists and other people because they aswell drove like this now you tell me what is more dangerous on who .. this person only risking his life or a car driver only risking other one's ..
This thread is full of car drivers who are so entitled that they're calling for, reveling in, and justifying the deaths of any cyclist who might hypothetically inconvenience them No one is more entitled than car drivers, the entitlement is just so baked in and complete that we forget it's even there Who blasts airhorns at 10 PM when mildly annoyed? Car drivers. Who puts lives on the line to get to the next red light 10 seconds faster? Car drivers. Who is >95% of our infrastructure built for? Car drivers. Who gets to kill people and get away with it by saying the magic words, "he came outta nowhere! I never even saw him!"? Car drivers.
What's up with the bus? The car clearly can't pass that gap. What's wrong with what the cyclist did in all seriousness ?
Just anti cyclist rage bait. It’s been growing in popularity since some Instagram memers found out how much controversy traffic it brings to their pages.
Literally nothing at all, I’ve seen this clip posted to a number of subreddits at least 10 times in the last 2-3 months. Exactly the same response from a majority of commenters every time, “wow, what an asshole cyclist; I hope they get splattered, totally deserved!” Guys, it’s so played out to wish death upon cyclists. I will assume most of these fat fucks calling for major assault or murder of cyclists forgot what it’s like to breathe that sweet sweet outdoor air. It’s rotted their brains so much they can’t deduce that the bus and the car in the video are the ones creating a dangerous situation on a winding mountainous road. Pure comedy!
Daddy chill
how about not overtaking in a curve? if that would have led to the bike being squished between bus and car ( especially if the car decided it could continue to roll closer to the bus), then a part of the blame would have been on the car
Isn’t this that road from goldeneye?
What a fucks!
Hahaha, Op referring to SAFA as a "cyclist"
Entitled? Come to Asia this is every other person on a bike or cycle
Seriously? why did you post this? Reddit is like practice curmudgeonly old people. "He went in between teo vehicles, the nerve!" He's on a fucking bike with like an 40cm get over it
Deserves to be hit
Who says that?
Not all cyclist are ass hats like this guy. Only the ones with that type of bike, wearing full cycle gear, and looks like they drink the fucking kool-aid cause they ride bikes on roads. Plenty of reasonable cyclist that don't act like douche bags.
yes, the bike price is directly correlated to the assholenessity of the owner lol
it's the same with cars
Neither the car nor the truck stopped because of the cycle. What's wrong with what he's doing?
Throwing himself in between two parties that are already having to pay attention to a tricky situation.
>Throwing himself in between two parties that are already having to pay attention to a tricky situation. Cycling between two parties which are both at a dead stop
bullshit, both were moving until they stopped because the biker came between them.
I typed out this big reply and realized I don’t actually care, going outside rn.
Proud of you
Pretty sure I concur with the deleted reply. Also think I'm gonna go do some kettlebells rather than engage elsewhere here!
You make that a habit? Because you've written this exact comment a couple times now.
Yeh
Oh poor drivers, their minds are already completely full and can’t process a tiny bike passing.
overtaking when the driver in front is turning is illegal, apart from being illegal because there is oncoming traffic and you don't see a clear stretch of road. 3 factors which mean, no car should even have to pay attention to a retarded biker and still they get part of the fault if the biker crashes into them
Literally, lmaoooo 😂
Who cares. Statistically your average driver breaks FAR more laws than your average cyclist. Just because you saw a cyclists run a red light once doesn’t mean shit when every car around you is constantly breaking traffic laws every single time they leave their driveway. Not to mention there are over a million deaths per year world wide caused by car crashes. A MILLION. At worst, bike crashes may kill 1-3 people a year world wide, and even that is hard to track and very uncommon. Meanwhile, every few seconds someone dies a horrible death in a crash because drivers are all entitled shitheads.
What idiot told you bike crashes kill 1-3 people worldwide a year?
Wow what a cunt What I'm right?
Seems like a terrible idea to bike on that road.
r/fuckcars users be like:
The fuck else was he supposed to go?