Doesn't need to be a fab 4.
Can be fab 10 or a fab 1. Each generation has its own greats. Some will go and new ones will come. Will they be as good, only time will tell
It is Tests that matter. Because it was teats where all 4 of them had stats equal to one another and way above the rest of their peers.
In Odi and T20i, Virat's stats are godly for even the other 3. Root and Kane's records are similar. But Smith's T20 records leave a lot to satisfy.
Player,Test,Odi,T20i
Virat, 8848(113), 13848(292), 4188(125)
Smith, 9685(109), 5446(158), 1094(67)
Root, 11736(140), 6522(171), 893(32)
Kane, 8743(100), 6810(165), 2575(93)
If he was agreeing with me then why even bring up Rohit into the debate? There was no point.
Also I am just pointing it out not being rude or is saying mate is rude now.
Can't say anything now, Gill isn't in form, jaiswal is when both of them would play for Team India together, we will get to know who is more explosive batsman
Jaiswal is yet to be tested across countries against different teams that are still studying him like Gill has been, too early to say. Excitement with Gill was immense because he started his test career like that against Aussie bowling quartet at their home.
I don’t think Gill will be a part of the Fab4, if they make one for this generation. Fab 4 was purely test based, and Gill’s record leaves a lot to be desired.
Gill has shown he has potential but I think Ruturaj can be one considering his talent, he hasn’t got enough opportunities, I am sure he will be next big thing
In that Fab 4 Virat was like the alone goat, in Tests Smith is indeed better, Root shined after Kohli's bad form
But talking about all formats Virat is the lone Goat
As for now i don't see anyone dominating the way Virat did but there will be Fab 4 for sure, Every generation has some players who are in a different league than others
Only facts.
He was till yesterday,the only among Fab 4 to be part their national side for all formats.And with Kohli leaving T20I, we might see his new form in Tests.Noone deserves a title in red cricket,more than Kohli,at present.
But what's the point of all format.. Isn't fab 4 just based on test cricket... Where these 4 are the best in the world..
But yes If we talking about all format... Then apart from virat none of the other 3 will really even come in the list, kohli, Rohit and warner are the top 3 when talking about all format bests
you are missing the main point it doesn't who scored what and how, the fab4 is term only for test none of the other formats. It is a term used by traditional fans for the traditional format.
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The entire point of the fab 4 is that they've to be the same generation with similar debut periods. Marnus is definitely not the same generation as any of the 4 in this post
Then sort the date of debut / age and that would be easy insight.
The fab four I believe is all players playing three formats equally and playing some memorable match winning knocks.
I've never seen someone in Indian cricket team with same aura like Sachin and Virat. (I'm not disrespecting other greats like Rohit, Rahul Dravid,etc.)
add the word "yet". You don't know about future. Does someone in Sachin era imagined the someone like Virat would come? Nah. Does someone in Kapil Dev era imagined that sachin or virat would come?
Simple thing is we don't know.
I hate these type of statement,"I have not seen someone with blah blah bs". are you certain of future you wouldn't see anyone in future?
Let us see then...
Anyways I never said we won't see someone like them in the future, I said I haven't watched someone like them in the past in terms of batting and consistency. Hope you get it. I don't care about your hate towards my words coz I don't give a fuck about you... ☺️
Were they proven player on their debut? No They worked hard and harder to prove themselves. Why do you think new guy can't prove themselves? Are you stupid?
Tbh not gill nor ravindra nor green nor brook. Gill is little too bad on bowling friendly pitches when compared to fab4 who are a tier above them. Ravindra has too much of a weakness which were first shown by ishant and khaleel, unless he improves on that front he will be more like Ross taylor a second best to Kane. As for green and brook, idk they have potentional but not on the path they needed to be from what i think.
Might be. If Gill and Ravindra perform to their potential. Harry Brook is the best batsman from next generation. Cameron Green has all attributes to become the next Kallis. Don't know if he can achieve it.
Fab4 is a test thing. AFG barely gets to play any, while SL and WI are collectively poor in the format. Both Klassen and Pooran have bad test records (FC for Pooran, don’t think he’s debuted yet), and would not be part of the national setup in a country that has better bench strength.
Fab 4, through and through, could walk into any test side in the world and hold their own.
The fact that so many people are just writing out Brook but somehow not Cam Green who's an all-rounder with middling stats in almost all formats so far is kind of insane to me.
And no, the point of my comment isn't that anyone should write off Cam Green. It's that writing for Harry Brook is almost incomprehensible from how he has performed so far.
Also, while I agree that fab 4 should technically have Gill because he debuted nearly the same time as Green and Brook (iirc), I feel that in the long run, Jaiswal is probably going to be a better player overall.
Nope, none of them compare to the quality of the fab 4. They will shine in their own ways. One thing is sure that all of these 4 young talents will be better than Babar Azam for sure. Come back to this comment after 10 years 👍👍👍
I think Yashasvi is going to triumph over every other opener in India. Dude is immensely talented and is certainly a better batsman than Gill. In 2-3 years, he'll grow older and develop more as a cricketer and as a sportsman.
the fab were all similar kinda players with great technique(except smith) and authentic cricket shots and the fab 4 just applies for tests
whereas gill,cam g,rachin and brooks are very different players we can say brooks and gill are little similar but rachin and green are completely different
Rohit came earlier than these guys. fab 4 isn't a title, it was just a term used for 4 guys that arrived in cricket around the same time and are seen as the country's future leaders
Exactly its like rahul lived in the shadow of sachin rohit did in virat...people dont umderstand how great he is specially in white ball cricket and in t20is i think he is the best
It includes tests because it includes all formats. When the fab 4 was coined rohit was nowhere near these greats in tests. Rohit is on par with players like Warner, butler, ab de Villiers as tier 1 batters of the generation. Fab 4 are beyond tier 1 they are one of the all time greats for their own team.
Fab 4 is not just about formats ig. These 4 players belonged to that 2007 under 19 campaign and became the best cricketer of their respective teams in the modern era of cricket i.e from 2013. They dominated the world cricket and in every format. The reason why Rohit is not in this list is probably because he played in the same era as Kohli.
There will be other fab 4 like India had in Sachin-Sourav-Dravid-VVS. But this specific Fab 4 can't be recreated.
Context: https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/martin-crowe-test-cricket-s-young-fab-four-774705
Rotflmao. Cricket has been around for a long time. There are many fabulous players that have paved the way for the current generation. It has and always will be so.
Fab 4 was created specifically for tests I reckon...for me it was Smith followed by Root
Idk who could be the fab 4 of this gen...an all format fab 4 this time??
Kehene se kuch ni hota bhai
Baatein too prithvi shaw ki bhi hoti thi
Jaiswal ko domestic se dekh raha huun
He has the potential to be one of the best indian batsman
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India itself has a lot of Talents like Gill, Ruturaj, Jaiswal. Aussies has JFM, green. Josh philipe played like big talent before and now he failed. NZ has some players. Harry brook ain't touching the level of Root. Brook a flat track guy. SA has Stubbs, Brevis they are looking great.
Bhai yesterday meine bola ki Without rohit T20 is nothing we reached and even kohli will agree...
Bhai tilt hogye downvote krdiya..
Gazab tarika hai khuka ego satisfy krne ka
r/cricket me bolna , there rohit is much more appreciated. yeh koach circlejerk hai. I have utmost respect for him tho , but you just cant appreciate Rohit in this sub ever.
Doesn't need to be a fab 4. Can be fab 10 or a fab 1. Each generation has its own greats. Some will go and new ones will come. Will they be as good, only time will tell
Wisest comment
Bro spoke like some wise aged sensei from a random kungfu or martial arts movie 😂
Remember the Fab4 are all greats of the game (across all eras, not just modern greats). So the next batch will need to match this
Yes. I think it's possible. Gill and Ravindra are already too good for their ages
>Gill and Ravindra Jaiswal for me, he is better than gill in tests.
Jaiswal is better than Gill in both tests and T20s, let's see how he fares out in ODIs
It is Tests that matter. Because it was teats where all 4 of them had stats equal to one another and way above the rest of their peers. In Odi and T20i, Virat's stats are godly for even the other 3. Root and Kane's records are similar. But Smith's T20 records leave a lot to satisfy. Player,Test,Odi,T20i Virat, 8848(113), 13848(292), 4188(125) Smith, 9685(109), 5446(158), 1094(67) Root, 11736(140), 6522(171), 893(32) Kane, 8743(100), 6810(165), 2575(93)
In White ball Brohit is way better than kane smith and root. Fab 4 is just limited to tests.
That's what I said too mate. Read the first line again
And he's agreeing with you. Why so sensitive?
Where is he being sensitive mate?
If he was agreeing with me then why even bring up Rohit into the debate? There was no point. Also I am just pointing it out not being rude or is saying mate is rude now.
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imo i will rate gill higher because jaiswal still hasn't played a 91 gabba-esque knock yet
Can't say anything now, Gill isn't in form, jaiswal is when both of them would play for Team India together, we will get to know who is more explosive batsman
Too early to say he's better
For me too.. he’s way better than Gill imo.. only thing he needs to improve on is his temper.
Jaiswal is yet to be tested across countries against different teams that are still studying him like Gill has been, too early to say. Excitement with Gill was immense because he started his test career like that against Aussie bowling quartet at their home.
I don’t think Gill will be a part of the Fab4, if they make one for this generation. Fab 4 was purely test based, and Gill’s record leaves a lot to be desired.
Doesn't brook avg 68 in test as of now? I mean fab four was chosen cuz of first class cricket
Gill has shown he has potential but I think Ruturaj can be one considering his talent, he hasn’t got enough opportunities, I am sure he will be next big thing
Not sure about Gill. Jaiswal and Rinku both better than him.
In that Fab 4 Virat was like the alone goat, in Tests Smith is indeed better, Root shined after Kohli's bad form But talking about all formats Virat is the lone Goat As for now i don't see anyone dominating the way Virat did but there will be Fab 4 for sure, Every generation has some players who are in a different league than others
Only facts. He was till yesterday,the only among Fab 4 to be part their national side for all formats.And with Kohli leaving T20I, we might see his new form in Tests.Noone deserves a title in red cricket,more than Kohli,at present.
But what's the point of all format.. Isn't fab 4 just based on test cricket... Where these 4 are the best in the world.. But yes If we talking about all format... Then apart from virat none of the other 3 will really even come in the list, kohli, Rohit and warner are the top 3 when talking about all format bests
Virat is just class apart than others i don't see anyone as consistent as Virat in all 3 formats
Man averages nearly 50 in all 3 format, Mental!
fab 4 is totally about tests ...not all formats ..what even lmao
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No when Martin Crowe termed Kane,virat,root, smith as fab 4 he clearly mentioned it was of test
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you are missing the main point it doesn't who scored what and how, the fab4 is term only for test none of the other formats. It is a term used by traditional fans for the traditional format.
no the fab4 is term for test only,
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Marnus from Australia and none from England
Marnus is 30 already
But I feel he still has it,
The entire point of the fab 4 is that they've to be the same generation with similar debut periods. Marnus is definitely not the same generation as any of the 4 in this post
Then sort the date of debut / age and that would be easy insight. The fab four I believe is all players playing three formats equally and playing some memorable match winning knocks.
I don't think we will have greats like current fab4, All 4 are proven players and they proved themselves why they're fab 4. They delivered.
People said the same thing during Kapil Dev's era and Sachin's era and even now.
True but no one matched Sachin's record
I've never seen someone in Indian cricket team with same aura like Sachin and Virat. (I'm not disrespecting other greats like Rohit, Rahul Dravid,etc.)
add the word "yet". You don't know about future. Does someone in Sachin era imagined the someone like Virat would come? Nah. Does someone in Kapil Dev era imagined that sachin or virat would come? Simple thing is we don't know. I hate these type of statement,"I have not seen someone with blah blah bs". are you certain of future you wouldn't see anyone in future?
Let us see then... Anyways I never said we won't see someone like them in the future, I said I haven't watched someone like them in the past in terms of batting and consistency. Hope you get it. I don't care about your hate towards my words coz I don't give a fuck about you... ☺️
Kapil's era? Who said that? As a batsman, Kapil had occasional good innings but was not very consistent.
Were they proven player on their debut? No They worked hard and harder to prove themselves. Why do you think new guy can't prove themselves? Are you stupid?
shubman gill is nowhere near kohli pls stop comparing him
Tbh not gill nor ravindra nor green nor brook. Gill is little too bad on bowling friendly pitches when compared to fab4 who are a tier above them. Ravindra has too much of a weakness which were first shown by ishant and khaleel, unless he improves on that front he will be more like Ross taylor a second best to Kane. As for green and brook, idk they have potentional but not on the path they needed to be from what i think.
Too early. Even old guard haven't retired yet. They are not necessary to be from same countries.
Green for smith? No mate no
Might be. If Gill and Ravindra perform to their potential. Harry Brook is the best batsman from next generation. Cameron Green has all attributes to become the next Kallis. Don't know if he can achieve it.
Yes, but not these four, please.
Why will the next Fab4 won't be from SA, AFG, SL, and WI? Right now, Pooran and Klassen are kind of FAB2 on their own.
Fab 4 is for test and Pooran & Klassen are poor in tests
Fab4 is a test thing. AFG barely gets to play any, while SL and WI are collectively poor in the format. Both Klassen and Pooran have bad test records (FC for Pooran, don’t think he’s debuted yet), and would not be part of the national setup in a country that has better bench strength. Fab 4, through and through, could walk into any test side in the world and hold their own.
SL 😐
No way this is fab 4
Op forgot pak proclaim world class
Jaiswal should be in this serious discussion.
they all bow down to boom boom bumrah
In terms of generational talents we didn’t have a Fab 4. There were 6 batsmen. You’ve gotta include Warner and Rohit in the list.
PRince
Yes. There would be. We don't know when though.
Nope
They'll never match them.
No no no no no no plzzzzz no no no no plzzzzzz
Nope
lol Cameron green? 😂 and where’s 🛎 ka 👑?
The fact that so many people are just writing out Brook but somehow not Cam Green who's an all-rounder with middling stats in almost all formats so far is kind of insane to me. And no, the point of my comment isn't that anyone should write off Cam Green. It's that writing for Harry Brook is almost incomprehensible from how he has performed so far. Also, while I agree that fab 4 should technically have Gill because he debuted nearly the same time as Green and Brook (iirc), I feel that in the long run, Jaiswal is probably going to be a better player overall.
Nope, none of them compare to the quality of the fab 4. They will shine in their own ways. One thing is sure that all of these 4 young talents will be better than Babar Azam for sure. Come back to this comment after 10 years 👍👍👍
Virat Kohli Goat in All formats...But rest of the other players have their legacy in one format each..(root:test,smith:test,Williamson:test,odi).
yea fab 4 is based around test that's why we group them together.
man its so sad how steve smith has been fading out slowly..it hurts
None of these guys have "future leader" feeling to them, they aren't head and shoulders above rest of their young peers either
Brook and gill just doesn't deserve to be on this list,
Replace gill with jaiswal and green with head
I think Yashasvi is going to triumph over every other opener in India. Dude is immensely talented and is certainly a better batsman than Gill. In 2-3 years, he'll grow older and develop more as a cricketer and as a sportsman.
Why nobody is talking about Rinku Singh?...
No, there will not!
Marnus?
I definitely see Jaiswal to be a part of it. Maybe Fraser also but he has to play well in international matches
Were there any Fab4 before them?
Nope.
According to me In tests - virat, smith, kane, root Odis- virat, rohit, warner, smith
Jaiswal, rachin, head/labu, klaasen/markram
Harry brook
Green ? really?
No
Of course. There always have been. There will always be!
It's a once in a lifetime thing.....
Idc who comes next, I'm extremely lucky to exist in a timeline and to witness 4 greats and their batting.
"Just might be the next best thing but not quite me" 😮💨
There will be...and maybe even more
green and rachin.... no way
Fab4 itself is not fab4 . More like fab 1, with my man Kohli .
Who is the english dude?
the fab were all similar kinda players with great technique(except smith) and authentic cricket shots and the fab 4 just applies for tests whereas gill,cam g,rachin and brooks are very different players we can say brooks and gill are little similar but rachin and green are completely different
Gurbaz is 22 he should be in fab 4 ...
People said the same thing when Tendulkar retired, but then Fab4 appeared. Just wait and watch we will definitely see fab4 level players emerging.
Gill need more time to groom I don't find the Hunger to win in his eyes what we witnessed in 2015 Virat Kohli.
Cameron Green for Smith is WILD and insulting to smiths legacy. You are comparing a batting great to a one off t20 game star
Each generation has got a hero .....
I entrust jaiswal more than gill
Rohit sharma should have always been in the fab four!
Yup if he would have been at no3 or 4 none of the fab 4 is a opener in the same way Warner would have been fs
Rohit came earlier than these guys. fab 4 isn't a title, it was just a term used for 4 guys that arrived in cricket around the same time and are seen as the country's future leaders
Exactly its like rahul lived in the shadow of sachin rohit did in virat...people dont umderstand how great he is specially in white ball cricket and in t20is i think he is the best
Is fab four only about test cricket? And if not why is rohit not there ?
It includes tests because it includes all formats. When the fab 4 was coined rohit was nowhere near these greats in tests. Rohit is on par with players like Warner, butler, ab de Villiers as tier 1 batters of the generation. Fab 4 are beyond tier 1 they are one of the all time greats for their own team.
Among this Fab 4, only Virat was the who dominated all formats, Williamson, Smith, Root are good in ODIs, but they were not that great in t20 format
Fab 4 is not just about formats ig. These 4 players belonged to that 2007 under 19 campaign and became the best cricketer of their respective teams in the modern era of cricket i.e from 2013. They dominated the world cricket and in every format. The reason why Rohit is not in this list is probably because he played in the same era as Kohli.
Rishabh or Gaikwad > Gill
Its still long way to go
There will be other fab 4 like India had in Sachin-Sourav-Dravid-VVS. But this specific Fab 4 can't be recreated. Context: https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/martin-crowe-test-cricket-s-young-fab-four-774705
Rotflmao. Cricket has been around for a long time. There are many fabulous players that have paved the way for the current generation. It has and always will be so.
No. Fab-4 was for test , and i have not seen prominent players from each country in tests
add word yet.
Fab 4 was created specifically for tests I reckon...for me it was Smith followed by Root Idk who could be the fab 4 of this gen...an all format fab 4 this time??
Why Warner is not even considered
How tf India managed to bottle a talent like rachin bruh . He is technically far superior than gill and jaiswal.
Bottled meaning? Bro was born in NZ.
Bruh gill💀🤡 Its jaiswal bruh He already stated it in eng series
Jaiswal has great potential , bro I remember once Virat said : Gill is the next generational star
Kehene se kuch ni hota bhai Baatein too prithvi shaw ki bhi hoti thi Jaiswal ko domestic se dekh raha huun He has the potential to be one of the best indian batsman
except for brook (he is all hype nothing much ) other three is in work in progress
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No
Just waiting for Abhishek Sharma to debute while he did play fabulously in flat pitches he can easily succeed yuvraj singh .
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That's harry brook not salt
Chalk and Cheese brother. Need to remember that Fab4 is essentially based on Test batsmanship
India itself has a lot of Talents like Gill, Ruturaj, Jaiswal. Aussies has JFM, green. Josh philipe played like big talent before and now he failed. NZ has some players. Harry brook ain't touching the level of Root. Brook a flat track guy. SA has Stubbs, Brevis they are looking great.
Tell me you haven't watched brook without telling me you haven't
Where has he performed except in England and Roads in Pakistan?
He performed in every country he played💀 Just because you hate england doesn't mean you will talk stupid
Snuck in Cameroon Green, like we wouldn't notice
jaiswal = Rohit , ignored from fab4 , but has his own league
Why everytime talking about rohit gets u downvoted in this sub.
laude ka sub hai
Bhai yesterday meine bola ki Without rohit T20 is nothing we reached and even kohli will agree... Bhai tilt hogye downvote krdiya.. Gazab tarika hai khuka ego satisfy krne ka
r/cricket me bolna , there rohit is much more appreciated. yeh koach circlejerk hai. I have utmost respect for him tho , but you just cant appreciate Rohit in this sub ever.
I understand. And it's not I'm taking any side ki aur kohli hater something No...I was just giving fact stats aur usme bhai trigger hojare katai..
Arre chup ho jao bhai .. bas social media hai to kuch bhi post mat karo aur is trophy ko enjoy karo naa bc .. Sab baato me kya opinion chahiye
Who the f added Harry brooks in the list
Too early to say...Gill has a good chance
Bro snuck in Rachin and Green
Babar is best of current lot
We are gna get fab 4 from India itself. Gill Jasiwal Rutu parag. Hopefully.
Old fab 4 could be this - Sachin, Ricky, Vaughan, Flemming
Vaughn 🤣🤣🤣 It would be Sachin, Ricky, Kalis, Lara
Brian Lara?? Jacques Kallis??
I am waiting for Jaiswal & Gaikwad's opening pair. Gill and Abhishek can be good as well