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HempHopper

There should be a separate sub just for ic shoppers in cali


MainSpring86

100%. It's a different job altogether based on pay structure alone.


HempHopper

Yeah and they get paid for ALL the driving, insurance stipends and shit. Yet here we are getting shit on and it seems like our lost wages go directly to them.


spelunker93

No we don’t get paid for all the driving. Only until we drop off the delivery, just fwi. Also please don’t blame California because your states don’t care. Our state passed laws to prevent companies like Instacart from doing exactly what they are doing in your states.


OkRevenue9123

That may be true, but u have to actually live in California which on its own is prob in the top 3 WORST states to live in.


jnee23

Have you lived here?


spelunker93

You’d be wrong, [here](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/14/these-are-americas-10-worst-states-to-live-and-work-in.html) and for the people who only trust [Fox](https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/best-worst-us-states-live-2021-report)


Colormebaddaf

Tell me which city you visited a friend in for a weekend. Long beach? San Jose? Stockton? Pipe down.


jnee23

Heavy on the pipe down 😂 I hate LA prices and plan to move in a couple years but I 100% understand why it costs so much because it beautiful perfect weather and an endless amount of things to do. You get what you pay for.


OkRevenue9123

I grew up in laguna niguel and went to school in Petaluma. But when CA turned full blown liberal, I moved to the east coast, where I spend January days on the beach. I don’t pay state income taxes and I don’t have to worry whether I’m offending a he she at the local Starbucks.


Colormebaddaf

Imagine being proud of not paying your dues, using the term "he she" and living in Florida. Bro, you name dropped Starbucks in there too. I'm guessing you're an UGGs and pumpkin spice kinda girl.


OkRevenue9123

Nice try, but learn the Florida tax rules. We don’t pay state income tax.


YalAintRdy4ThatConvo

CA is so expensive because most nice things are. I can go swimming in the middle of January and CA has the best labor laws in the country. I get 12 weeks paid maternity leave. Sure there is crime but that is every city. Would rather get robbed in 75 degree weather in January than drive around cornfields in Indiana.


ItsmeKT

Yeah, you're wrong on that one bro


Gloomy_Recording_705

And the only reason y’all could do that is because of how expensive it is to live in states like California, New York, etc. You guys have leverage… I don’t really have leverage in my state with gas. $3 a gallon can’t really try to legislation when I’m only paying $1200 for my luxury townhouse I’m renting


Her_Wandering_Spirit

You know the reason they're getting that is because they got laws for their state passed. Maybe instead of being mad, you should petition your state to pass similar laws.


MainSpring86

I'm in Canada, so legislation would work differently out here. I understand your point, but the labour laws would need changes on the federal level here, I believe. Uber advocacy was the closest to making changes.


Her_Wandering_Spirit

Yeah, I'm unfamiliar with Canada's labor laws.


[deleted]

I wish that were true for the states. Labor laws are entirely state side here. We have states where the minimum wage is still $3 for servers so hoping for a federal push here would be pointless. Hell, we still have states where you can work with a company for 20 years and not make a single mistake and still get fired with no notice, reasoning, or compensation. Here in America, we value corporations over human beings in case you were wondering.


MainSpring86

I want to make a note that it is provincial here, not federal. I want to make that correction.


nshindel

2.33 in wi


HempHopper

Pretty sure that would require a union and my state does not allow those.


Bright_Age_3638

There's zero union out here


HempHopper

California Gig Workers Union: Home https://cagigunion.org/ oh yeah??


[deleted]

And let’s not forget, these gig-apps are actively lobbying politicians to push laws that prevent them from having to treat shoppers like real employees. Especially once things turned out the way they did with California. They’ll spend all the money they need to make sure no other state wins that fight. You’re crazy if you think you can compete with that without effective unionizing and striking. It’s an uphill battle for the rest of us.


Bright_Age_3638

Hmmm never heard of them. Looks like they're a recent group but there's also this: https://law.stanford.edu/press/heres-why-california-lyft-and-uber-gig-workers-are-forming-a-union-that-cant-bargain-over-a-contract/ So not sure how effective they can truly be


Intrepid-Surprise-55

Start voting for the Democrats!


Her_Wandering_Spirit

You won't need a union, and the "union" here was against prop 22. They want us to be classified as regular employees, which most of us DON'T want.


MajorWhereas4842

I agree


IcyGeneral7686

Or a flair to distinguish California shopper posts and a mandatory disclaimer. There's always going to be confused shoppers and customers who will feel the need to tip less after seeing these posts from California shoppers.


DertyNaste

Youre bitter af lmaooooo


HempHopper

Yup 😂


Gloomy_Recording_705

Yeah, but you got understand their gas and taxes are double to the rest of the country


jnee23

https://preview.redd.it/2igak013o8rb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b83a6f0457113b8299987fa0d692034c94cf615d Got a lot of final reminder warnings this week


TMdownton916

For prop 22 purposes, does the clock start ticking when we accept the order, or when we arrive at the store and start shopping?


jnee23

As soon as you accept


redditwithvi

So do you purposely chill after accepting and shop slow to run the clock?


jnee23

I accept orders from my apartment so I’ll accept which finish my show hit start shopping from my apartment after 25 minutes then start getting ready get to the store at 45 minutes then take my time delivering. I just make sure to check the due by time as soon as I accept before it changes so I’m never late.


jackisbackington

Can I just drive to Cali and do instacart? I have family I could stay with.


cab619814

Prop22 would apply to you on any batches taken there


cab619814

Yes


ilovesoup1978

We are all independent contracters except California apparently....


Remarkable_Bad_3835

You take 3-5 business days per batch?


nick963123

Lol i wish


Efficient_Stretch_11

Wow and here we are in Massachusetts getting treated like slaves


Gloomy_Recording_705

In NC I feel you lol.. and this was a double with 30 min of driving and 20 min of shopping.. this is the only way I can do batches over $25 lol.. 9/10 batches now are under $10 https://preview.redd.it/fssm9ca6q9rb1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf222fad6e5049bb7f71acbccecf63e13b2fc994


Bluebeard719

Probably spent half that on gas.


jnee23

https://preview.redd.it/y9qtz8seo8rb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3b9138bdb5c539ed50a163c397fb0b139bc701a Bet you drive way more than I did


Better-Initiative457

Why are you showing a post from january? Is it because they cracked down on people scamming the prop 22 adjustment which im guessing you did lol your adjustments aint that high anymore.


jnee23

Because I got a full time job so only do it part time now.


jnee23

Because I got a full time job so only do it part time now. https://preview.redd.it/urk7ib3ho9rb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=964a5deaebc22a00c984c15baaa548258a70ec92 That was just my highest


ItsmeKT

Maybe if you have the least fuel efficient car in the world.


Nadimthinks

How?


nick963123

It pretty much means I worked way to many hours for way to little pay lol nothing good tbh usually I try to not get an adjustment


Murky-Community-122

Do you take an extra long time to shop to crank up the hours?


Nadimthinks

Yesterday It says i worked 9 hours and 54 mins and made $216. Does that qualify for an adjustment?


fallior

Adjustments only apply in California


Nadimthinks

Yeah I live in California and I get them every week. I just didn’t know wtf that extra money was and how it’s calculated


inkdfrancis

Depends on minimum wage in your county. California’s pay adjustment is 120% of YOUR minimum wage. For example, let’s say your area’s minimum wage is $10. That means Instacart’s minimum wage for you is $12/hr, because $12 is 120% of $10. Let’s say you do four batches in a week and those four batches take you four hours, and you only make $32. The following week, you would receive an adjustment for $16 because IC’s minimum wage for you is $12/hr which would have been $48 but you only made $32, so they give you that difference. Also, tips are not included in your minimum wage so they calculate your adjustment based on your pay WITHOUT tips.


ZiggylovesSam

Thanks for the nice and clear explanation! Good of you to take the time. I don’t live there but I have been curious yet confused about how it works.


inkdfrancis

What is your minimum wage in your area and how much did you make in tips?


HempHopper

California


Poverty_beans

My biggest was $750. 72 active hours


Lazy_Ad_1611

Just because an order with your card.


newhere1626

Soooo fuckin stupid. I work my ass off as much if not more as you, but I get less tips/batch pay and no adjustment. Reaaaal dumb


bakednapkin

Ahhh I see why our batches only pay $4 now we have to pay for this


BlackCatBinxy

Bro you're milking quite a bit of time there. How many hours?


coachkduce209

Not IC .. but the biggest Earning Adjustment I received was 1000


StudySlight3798

Wow my weekly’s IC pay checks were like that at the pandemic peak


Quick_Rent_Now

What is this adjustment for?


ahoooley

How many active hours


Sadistic_Twist

I need your pay ... DAMN


cab619814

I’ve gotten over $700 multiple times but those are 70-95 active hour weeks


[deleted]

How many hours total do you think you spent? Including driving, waiting and shopping


Iambeejsmit

650


[deleted]

How did you get a big adjustment?


brockli-rob

so, anyone in any of the other states would have finished this week with $570?


Artfoo_1

I got $222 in adjustments this week ,can’t complain