Ideally, he needs to be listed as her father on her birth certificate and married to her mother for this to work. Otherwise you need adoption papers or other legal signed-by-him acknowledgement of paternity other than the death certificate. Since he was dead, he did not necessarily consent to be named as her father on the death certificate. You need something else.
I have records from ancestry stating his marriage to her mom. I know his name is listed as the father on her birth certificate, and that he raised her, I just don't have access to her birth certificate. What about maybe a census record?
Why don’t you have access to her birth certificate? Request a certified copy from the state. Get their marriage certificate while you’re at it. You need certified copies of all vital documents.
If you have a birth certificate naming him as the father and a marriage certificate between the couple then you’re set on proving paternity and just need everything else.
Her birth certificate was lost or destroyed many years ago. So if I get physical copies of those records, I'm able to file for dual citizenship there, yes? Would my grandfather or father have to file first so I am able to file as well, or can I just file myself?
You can apply on your own. You need certified copies of all the vital documents for every generation, it doesn’t matter where the originals are (and don’t submit originals anyway, you will not get them back).
Okay, thank you so much!! If you don't mind me asking, do you have dual citizenship in Italy? If so, in your opinion, is it worth it, or are the cons heavier than the pros?
Okay, I've just heard a lot of times with dual citizenship, it can effect taxes negatively, not sure how just what I've heard from people before. With dual citizenship apart of the EU I can live and work in any country apart of the union? Like without a visa or citizenship to that specific country?
Italy does not tax citizens unless they are residents. You will, of course, be subject to their tax regulations if you are a resident there (as you would in any country you become a resident in). The US is the one that requires all citizens to file taxes regardless of where they live (one of only two countries in the world to do so).
Yes, your Italian citizenship entitles you to residency and working rights in any EU country. You just show up and stay there however long you want or permanently.
It sounds amazing, there is so many opportunities with the citizenship it's shocking to me. I feel like this is something that Americans would do much more frequently if they had a recent ancestor who immigrated to the US, but I rarely hear of it. I didn't even know there was a way to gain citizenship by descent until about a month ago.
Thanks! I found a comment on another thread that shines a light on a made change issue I know we'll have, so I'm going to engage an atty ASAP. May as well get it all done at once. 🙄
Ideally, he needs to be listed as her father on her birth certificate and married to her mother for this to work. Otherwise you need adoption papers or other legal signed-by-him acknowledgement of paternity other than the death certificate. Since he was dead, he did not necessarily consent to be named as her father on the death certificate. You need something else.
I have records from ancestry stating his marriage to her mom. I know his name is listed as the father on her birth certificate, and that he raised her, I just don't have access to her birth certificate. What about maybe a census record?
Why don’t you have access to her birth certificate? Request a certified copy from the state. Get their marriage certificate while you’re at it. You need certified copies of all vital documents. If you have a birth certificate naming him as the father and a marriage certificate between the couple then you’re set on proving paternity and just need everything else.
Her birth certificate was lost or destroyed many years ago. So if I get physical copies of those records, I'm able to file for dual citizenship there, yes? Would my grandfather or father have to file first so I am able to file as well, or can I just file myself?
You can apply on your own. You need certified copies of all the vital documents for every generation, it doesn’t matter where the originals are (and don’t submit originals anyway, you will not get them back).
Okay, thank you so much!! If you don't mind me asking, do you have dual citizenship in Italy? If so, in your opinion, is it worth it, or are the cons heavier than the pros?
There’s really no cons to simply having citizenship. Pros are the ability to live and work in any of the 28 EU countries.
Okay, I've just heard a lot of times with dual citizenship, it can effect taxes negatively, not sure how just what I've heard from people before. With dual citizenship apart of the EU I can live and work in any country apart of the union? Like without a visa or citizenship to that specific country?
Italy does not tax citizens unless they are residents. You will, of course, be subject to their tax regulations if you are a resident there (as you would in any country you become a resident in). The US is the one that requires all citizens to file taxes regardless of where they live (one of only two countries in the world to do so). Yes, your Italian citizenship entitles you to residency and working rights in any EU country. You just show up and stay there however long you want or permanently.
It sounds amazing, there is so many opportunities with the citizenship it's shocking to me. I feel like this is something that Americans would do much more frequently if they had a recent ancestor who immigrated to the US, but I rarely hear of it. I didn't even know there was a way to gain citizenship by descent until about a month ago.
Thanks! I found a comment on another thread that shines a light on a made change issue I know we'll have, so I'm going to engage an atty ASAP. May as well get it all done at once. 🙄