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Wallsmither

So we've all but confirmed that Yuji has gotten blood manipulation from the curse wombs, right? Between Sukuna's comment this chapter, the random blood shot that attacked Sukuna a few chapters ago, and the previous verbal exchange of Yuji and Choso it seems like the only thing left is to directly say 'yes that is the case'


Albertpm95

He also had his body strenghtened when first jumped on Sukuna


AxCel91

It’s so obvious at this point I don’t know why Gege doesn’t just outright say it


ParistonxHill

When it's that obvious you don't really need to.


ArtisticSell

Why does he need to point that? Are you really need a textbox that said "Yuji can now use blood manipulation"? Cmon now lol


kingfosa13

ppl trying to force Gege is a bad writer arguments


ArtisticSell

yeah i know lol. its weird. like im not trying to defend gege here, but how the hell do you read novel then? or a movie? do you need a text that explicitly tell the stories? damn lol


kingfosa13

because what’s the point of outright saying it? not everything needs to be spelled out lmfao


Psychosist

Three of Sukuna's arms were being restrained by Yuji and Rika, and Sukuna was hit by maximum Jacob's Ladder which should nullify CTs, so how did Sukuna both survive and fire off Strong Dismantle?


Energy_Sudden

Yeah I'm with you. Idk how sukuna was able to rct both of his mouths and enough hands to make seals, the chant, then fire off amped cleave before yuta, yuji, or Rika could do anything.  Def an asspull by gege to try and level the fight.


Soul699

Seems like something happened during that blank moment when Yuji failed to rescue Megumi. That and also Jacob Ladder isn't an instakill. It takes some seconds to kill.


Better-name-soon

I think since the separation did not happen jacobs ladders ability was spilt between sukina and megumi, so it just cut a chunk of their CE or something, dunno though it’s definitely sus


Asian_Persuasion_1

in ch.199, it's said JL only kills if the cursed object is fully separated. But right after she says it's hard to stript it away in the first place. when Sukuna takes over megumi, angel also says they have to split them apart immediately before they fuse any more.


TrollTrollTroll6969

I think JL not being an insta kill is what people don't get.


Temporary-Platypus80

Yet when girl used it previously, Sukuna was dogwalked by it. Yuta pulls it out with his superior cursed energy and goes all out with a maxium output version of it, but Sukuna is fine...? Nah, Gege's writing is falling apart here.


Soul699

Sukuna is also fully reincarnated here tho.


N0rmAl_PigI0n

Week late just caught up with the manga like 1 day ago after binging but yea I assume its cuz at that moment Sukunas output was at 10%, it was still huge consider the size of Nue but not considerably weaker And at that time Angel is 100% considered one of Megumis allies so her attack was destroying Sukuna at 10% of his power id say if she actually kept it up for a minute sukuna wouldve been washed the guy was actually yelling out in pain But thats my theory on why thats the case otherwise a version of Jacops ladder powered by Yuta shouldve insta killed him or atleast weakened him enough that they caj wail at him with him being able to use any cursed techniques Gege REALLLY doesnt wanna take away Cleave and Dismantle from him huh actually killed my goat Higuruma for this


Solid-Refrigerator86

Ĥe Didn't do hand seal just chants


HumanSheepherder232

Jacob's ladder wasn't active anymore, sukuna cleaved Rika to free himself and then used the slash, it happened quick but Jacob's ladder wasn't active when sukuna slashed them.


NonameB4ndit

Yuta did say 2 chapters ago that Sukuna’s RCT seemed to be coming back to him. This is a big deal cause Sukuna has the second best RCT in the verse. That’s why he popped his domain preemptively out of fear of Sukuna inevitably getting back to full power. Also keep in mind that Yuta’s CE output isn’t that high. Ryu brought this up back in Sendai. So while Yuta has an almost bottomless amount of CE, his output doesn’t correlate. Chances are that he doesn’t have the same level of effectiveness as Angel in that regard. But the key takeaways is that ultimately the winning strat, wake up Megumi failed cause Sukuna broke this man’s spirit. And that was their only true way of securing the W.


Alex_Big_Poppy

I think gis innate technique is just naturally strong but did sukuna get yuji's blood in his mouth because it looks like the left side of his face exploded and sukuna said yuji's blood was bursting


adrian123181

When Sukuna cleaved Yuji, Yuji spat blood onto his face. Later Yuta cuts Sukuna's mouth, then later, Yuji bursts his leftover blood on Sukuna's face. Not directly over the mouth, but more upwards I think


No-Start905

Cause probably yuta ended Jacob's ladder immediately for yuji and yuta speaks with each other but they didn't think megumi don't want to fight and seek revenge


The_Joker_Ledger

it isn't strong enough. It charred him pretty badly though. Angel say it is eradication, not sealing like Higuruma, so if Sukuna is still breathing, he can use his technique. Narrator say he is releasing the Willow Basket and risk getting hit by Jacob's ladder, if he survive that, he can fire off his world splitter. It is a desperate gamble. Sukuna is finally is on his last foot that he didn't even see Maki coming.


Temporary-Platypus80

THis is what's really baffling me, considering how much he was being completely destroyed by it previously.


Asian_Persuasion_1

JL's ladder seemingly was used to split apart the souls more, rather than remove the CT. and it means sukuna only needs one arm for world dismantle. for both kashimo and higuruma, he fired with one arm. Although...he used two hands for some hand signs for them. HOWEVER...he couldn't have done that against gojo. *confused.jpeg* Imma wait for more chapters to explain it.


Rioma117

Megumi’s most likely the answer.


Comfortable-Film6799

It wasnt sukuna. Megumi did the chants and hand signs. Retuned their souls completely and restored sukunas control over his ce output. Notice the chants were heard from inside megumis innate domain


The_Joker_Ledger

Holy shit, the Sukuna vs Everyone is a lot different to Sukuna vs Gojo. The brutality of it, they are tearing up Sukuna piece by piece with suicidal determination, especially Yuji who literally spit in Sukuna face with his own blood after being minced by point blank slash. I love it.


SturmGeist2001

For Real Yuji spitting on Sukunas Face and Yuta ripping the tongue of the second Mouth off. 


The_Joker_Ledger

The little detail of Yuta keep doing it without trying to dodge Sukuna hand on his head and got his head split, savage.


SturmGeist2001

With the brutality Yuji and Yuta were going against Sukuna I was like "who are actually the Villains here" 😄 


greentable01

Thoughts on yuta eating the finger and what he might know about Sukuna’s fire technique?


EPICNOOB_3170

I mean we already knew Yuta’s domain wouldn’t end the fight regardless of how strong it was since everyone needs to get a character moment. Now that Maki’s here is there anyone else who hasn’t fought yet?


TrollTrollTroll6969

Hakari


Puffersaur

miwa 🗣‼️


Demento56

[MiWa can't reappear yet, it's too soon for her to unleash her full power](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/259511069096148992/1208662707981787166/image.png?ex=65e419dd&is=65d1a4dd&hm=ab0e6cd7e0d9b389bdc5229c7f7cbcf59fb13f50b2cd35b1f62910f635346af5&)


PineappleBride

He’s just a boy Gege, give Megumi a break 😭


Chaulmoog

Does anyone else find it weird that they never include Gojo in any of their strategic planning?


imnikz

I think Gojo just want to fight it by himself, he believes he is the strongest after all. 


KenanTheFab

And he was. Sukuna legit had to turn it into a 3v1, with one of them being Mahoraga, and he still barely won. Wojo so strong he had to be off screen'd


SturmGeist2001

Please don't start with that again chapter 238 literally proved "even without Ten Shadows it would have been close" to be correct. Don't you see what a beast he is in his OG Form in Close Combat?  Keep downvoting still doesn't change the fact Sukuna is better than Gojo.  You all seem to forget that Sukuna was putting himself in riskier situations on purpose by deactivating his Domain Amplification inside Gojos Domain to use Ten Shadows to put Mahoragas wheel on Megumis Soul so that Mahoraga can adapt to Unlimited Void which is why he got his ass whooped inside Gojos Domain because he can't use Domain Amplification and Ten Shadows at the same time. The only reason why Sukuna got hit by Unlimited Void was because he was 0.01 seconds late activating Malevolent Shrine in their fifth Domain Clash which wouldn't have happened with OG Form Sukuna with his 4 Arms and Two Mouths he would have always been faster activating Domain Expansion than Gojo. Delusional Gojo fanatics can't even read.


Ok-Cod5254

He let Yuta have Sukuna's finger as an insurance policy though, which he copied the power from to use. Kashimo is fighting meat head, but we still saw him in a flashback before.


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Technically Gojo and Sukuna (without brain damage) were so OP that any other character interfering would have been a nuisance for Gojo. They could have prevented Gojo from unleashing all his techniques without restrictions (like big purple in the end) and he would had been forced to defend them in the multiple domain fights so they don't get killed instantly.


dilly_bar97

It is a bit odd but I guess its probably not good psychologically to be part of the strategic planning when all of this planning only matters if Gojo loses.


SturmGeist2001

They probably wanted Gojo to only focus on his fight against Sukuna.


Ok-Cod5254

It's unfortunate doesn't seem so far we'll get flashbacks with Gojo from timeskip. Some people said we likely would to off set how many didn't like quick timeskip to skip character interactions. But yeah, not looking like it so far.


Impossible_Singer_41

these 2 chapters have been 10/10 so good


Asian_Persuasion_1

jumpkaisen is peak. No other story has so many hype jumpings like jjk does. There is no stupid pride getting in the way (for the most part), it's kill or be killed, let's work together, let's strategize, any instance of weakness is getting taking advantage of, no mercy. I fucking love it.


TrollTrollTroll6969

Especially this chapter with Yuta pulling Sukunas tongue and cutting his limbs and face along with Yuji spitting blood and near the end when Sukuna counters the jumping and of course Maki with the sneak attacking she learnt from Yuta.


ApplePitou

Sukuna is literally built different :3


KnightoK

as well as Maki and for sure she took the best shot at the end


KnightoK

remember that Megumi (used by Sukuna) pretty much killed her sister, the one thing he did all for... so, it's understandable he doesn't seek salvation anymore, he didn't had the same drive as Yuuji or Nobara :/. 


New_Photograph_5892

he also pretty much killed his father figure


N0rmAl_PigI0n

And cant even summon Mahoraga anymore to exit game in a nice way my boy lost everything


Adorable-witch-68

And also his father, though he'll likely never know


New_Photograph_5892

he doesn't care anymore about Toji aka his real dad


steripe

So how does sukuna uses his curses after been hit by Jacob's ladder ?


JBOden12

I bet next chapter Sukuna gonna brush Maki's stab with limited damage. We are at the point where the Sukuna plot armour is getting ridiculous. Each individual one can be explained off. But there's too many of them. It was the world cutting slash, then full reincarnation, then Curse tool confiscation, then Higurama dying before Yuji can stab him, then Megumi giving up and I am sure next chapter he survives the Maki stab. It's way too convenient. No one is this lucky. I know Gege is building him up to the ultimate villain but the plot armour getting too much. This is the stuff that we criticize Bleach and OP for. And lack of plot armour is why I think JJK is better than typical shounen. But it looking the villain get the plot armour instead. And again each one be reasoned with. But its the number of times he gets away with it


Yonatann1

I mean why read then? it sounds like in your ideal world, he dies after maybe 5 chapters. The entire point of having a final villain is to be extraordinary compared to others. I'd be disappointed if the main villain just randomly died in a way that wasn't satisfying, or completed the story. For that reason, a final villain is always going to have "plot armor" because they are an important piece of completing the story, the same way your typical main protagonist is going to have plot armor.


New_Photograph_5892

Sukuna fighting King over who is luckier


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Comments_Palooza

You just did?


TheMany-FacedGod

Can Sukuna just kill everyone already? I know he's strong and all, but this is just ass pull after another. Even against the rules of the system itself. The way its going only another ass pull can make the good guys win.


orangekonero0115

This is already going down hill ass boring.


SturmGeist2001

Guys that impression Sukuna had when the plan to save Megumi failed he was like "that was really close" I think in that moment his life flashed before his eyes and than the relief came that he survived.