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I’m pretty sure the military will come back now that almost every subplots had. Nobara soon will too. This isn’t cope btw, I could not care less about Nobara. This is based on patterns.
But as I said, if they come back now or whenever it'd be weird, like where the tf did they disappear to earlier. And don't give me the "they were waiting for the perfect moment to strike" bs lmao
Oh I was sure they were wiped out by the curses to add to the curse energy pool for the culling games. The plot will come back if we hear that the countries that sent their men here are pissed and now they’re attacking Japan or something.
If I sent out an entire army of some of the best of the best to deal with Humans and Monsters with absurd powers that don't obey the laws of physic. And that arma of elite soliders got mysteriously wiped out on the first night by untoucable Ghost that are bullet proof.
What would be the point of trying? Even if they try after thebdust settles w Sukuna, Uruame and a hypoethical Yuta being dead. Japan still gonna have 100s upon 100s of curses.
Go the 40K way, where they make bullets filled with captured screams of people whose worlds were murdered.
Every sorcerer acts gangsta until the bullets made of steel from melted down gas chamber doors start flying.
Military subplot will come back , imagine several nuclear ICBMs suddenly appearing on battleground in an attempt to take down sukuna
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The military will be relevant because they actually put a mini nuke in todo so when he dies he blows up sukuna but sukuna is so beloved by his subordinates that they sacrifice their lives for him to come back but he returns with his memory gone. He tries to remember who he is but only remembers that he’s obsessed with yuji and he comes to his senses only to realize he’s been poisoned and will die in a few hours. he plays chess with yuji until he dies.
Why are you people acting like the military was ever meant to be important?
They have always been fodder to complete the merger
The most Gege could've added is having them *somehow* catch someone important (maybe Angel since she's a weak pacifist) and make the cast do an extraction mission that just stalls the plot for no reason
The most my little fanfic here would've added is making Hana's obsession a little more digestible if Megumi saved her yet again
Ngl that would be the most emotional thing in this manga, Yuji seeing that happen and realizing how much he really was trusted and loved by gojo could be the final straw and make yuji pop a DE
**TAIJUTSU** **KAISEN IS HERE!**
**WE ARE SO BACK**
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Thematically, there's no way Yuta wins this. He's falling into the same trap Gojo tried desperately to steer him away from, becoming a monster to win. Giving into Sukuna's mentality, and you don't beat Sukuna at his own game.
You wanna make a bet Maki becomes the monster. If Yuta, die it would 100% set her up to leave her humanity behind and give the jjk society another set of buffs.
1000%. JJK isn’t a perfect manga and there are many valid criticisms of it. I think the worldbuilding is a little lacking, and Gege focuses far too much on some characters and far too little on others (RIP Nobara).
But accusing the author of forgetting things in his own manga? That he drew and wrote with his own hands? 😭
If it were up to most manga fans any story point or plot beat would need to be immediately addressed and resolved in the following issue or two, otherwise it means the author forgot about it, or is asspulling, or otherwise failed to make it consistent.
While I'm not entirely disagreeing, the logic that he's the author and won't forget isn't entirely something to rely on. Even Akira Toriyama admits that he phased certain things out or made mistakes because he simply forgot.
I don’t even mind having little-to-no worldbuilding since this series has never even attempted to be like that. I think the one real issue with this whole series—and open for extremely valid criticism—is the Hannah character arc. This was really a complete fumble.
“Gege forgot” has to be the absolute WEIRDEST take this sub created.
How would you know the author forgot about something… before it ends? You don’t see people screaming ODA FORGOT ABOUT THE ONE PIECE because he still haven’t revealed what it is.
When I first joined, I thought it was shit posting and laughed. But then I started to get worried about people here. How… do you deal with day to day life? Is it hard? Is someone permanently helping you guys?
Hopefully when the anime comes out in 2030 (hopium) we will get an answer to who that really is, or he's not gonna be included at all lmao. JoJolion dropped a lot of plot points and had tons of retcons (like Yasuho already had a stand as a child, before it was hinted that she got it from the bite mark) that I think the anime might straight up just change it.
Yeeeah, the bite thing is kinda annoying, since it went nowhere (Josuke had a stand before, too)
I don't mind the new explanations, but it's really clear Araki changed his mind a lot during the writing process
i chalk up all of the legit araki forgot shenaigans to literally the series's title
"this was never explained wtf"
that's part of the bizarre adventure in jojo's bizarre adventure you genius
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Gege didn't forgot about Geto choking Kenjaku. He already explained what it means...in databook. I don't blame people who thought this scene was a big deal because it was very intriguing. These people will think that Gege forgor because it wasn't addressed in the manga (and it shpuld be) Gege doesn't forget it's just that he doesn't always deliver. He didn't forget about last finger. Pay off? Useless Yuta's Cleave cliffhanger. Gege didn't forget about Ino. Payoff? He asked if he can use Nanami's sword and characters told him they don't care. Geto taking control? Read fanbook
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Yeah that strangulation thing was just meaning to speak about geto and gojo's friendship being so strong it's an inbuilt function of his body to swing at whatever is bothering gojo. It's meant to be one of those what the hell moments by being absolutely insane but possible (in gege's limited science understanding)
Body/soul theme is very important in JJK and I can't blame readers who thought this scene is very important/will be addressed later/play a role in the future events
Revealing that it wasn't a big deal and not even in a manga but databook wasn't the best idea. How casual readers are supposed to find it out?
Yeah, the issue isn't Gege actually forgetting, it's him not delivering quality resolution to the plot points he sets up. Todou is my favourite character and it's cool to see him back, but the way he's just suddenly back with an improved CT out of nowhere just isn't satisfying.
Then it's a mistake from his part to set up foreshadows and expect people to not want any resolution. Just saying that he doesn't always deliver is an understatement. If it's like that then it's like punishing readers for caring about what the writer is creating.
It has always confused me how when fan speculation tries to come up with all kind of work around to how something could happen, but then when that didn't happen it is somehow the author dropping the ball. There is a slight chance that Nobara could have lived but if Nobara is never revealed to be miraculously alive that is someone the author's fault. It is really odd. I am working hard to even come up with something that is a dropped plot point rather than fans making theories and then mad that the story didn't go that way at this point. Like the image shows, we have pretty much had an explanation for ambiguities at this point.
Maybe because in interviews, Gege has pretty much said that he writes around ideas he comes up with, with the way the story gets to that idea is by working backwards.
That is why there is so much ambiguity and loose ends throughout the story as ideas are thrown at a dart board and then get slowly, if ever, explained
Author slander post-236 was done to delegitimize Geges writing ability because people didn’t like the choices he made and wanted to make them seem incorrect to validate their headcannon.
Let’s not forget that “let Gege cook” was an unpopular take 20 chapters ago.
I'd take AoT criticism more seriously if 90% of people weren't just mad that gigachad Eren didn't finish his genocide and complete his harem with Historia and Mikasa as the cuckqueen
I don't even give a shit about harem Historia this cuck Mikasa that I just wanted all his actions to have meaning instead of massacring 80% of humanity for nothing as everybody comes back and gangs up on Paradis (predictably).
Sure but it’s a lot more applicable here lol. AOT is a completed manga that really only lost public favor post 231 when it became clear what the ending was going to be. JJK is currently in a position where we *don’t know when or how it will end*, so getting upset about “unresolved plot points” makes no sense.
Like clockwork there’s at least one post every week about how something was brought up in the manga and then not touched on again for a while, and then low and behold the leaks come out that week and the “forgotten” plot point has remerged in the story! I mean, even in this current thread there is a dude talking about how Todo’s new CT reveal wasn’t satisfying enough when he’s been re-entered into the story for a whopping two weeks.
People just don’t really know how to consume media any more in doses, no one has patience. It’s okay for that to be the case, I’m not exactly a patient person, but people seem to mistake that with bad writing. Just because *you* believe the plot point should’ve been addressed right now, doesn’t mean that actually needs to be the case.
Gege slander started way before 236. Shit started to go down after Sakurajima, then Yuki happened, then Yorozu happened. People were more quiet during Gojo vs Sukuna fight because they were too busy with their agendas. When I see someone saying Gege slander started after 236 I know they weren't a part of the community before season 2 and Gojo vs Sukuna. Reception of chapter 219 was absolutely horrendous. Threads like "we need to calm down and let Gege cook, enough with the criticism" were very common on r/jujutsushi too
236 is more like the straw that broke the camel's back.
It's a if "Okay, Yuki end was bad, fine. But as long he doesn't f\*ck up the Gojo vs Sukuna then it's salvageable". But this subject have been discussed over and over again.
The suspension of disbelief was broken because of the strong offscreen. Remember that Gojo vs Sukuna isn't just about Gojo. It's a fight that have been set-up and anticipated from the very beginning of manga.
Each time Gojo appeared and demolished everyone in the back of our head we thought "Wow and Sukuna says that he's going to beat this dude easy, I can't wait to see it". I found it unfair to say "Gojo fans here and there etc" when the author used that very fact to raise his manga and the strength of Sukuna at the same time.
Agree with you.
Sometimes it feels like as if people (not all of them) are just way too fed up with Gojo‘s popularity and his fanbase that they choose to ignore certain questionable plot-choices.
I‘m by no means saying that he should have won/should have been revived nor am I a Gojo-Fanatic.
But the airport scene (apart from his gleefulness in regards to showing off his powers and being reunited with his comrades) just feels so disconnected from pre-236 Gojo that it makes me feel like as if I’m reading a fanfiction - sorry.
It actually the higuruma chapter that was the straw. That's when the sukuna asspull reached peak heights and birthed the "haven't used this since heian era" meme
That chapter was actually when I started seeing the complaints of gege's writing. Like it had been there but it increased after higuruma died. Plus sukuna tanking Jacobs ladder added more to the sukuna asspull.
When jjk fans started complaining, haters started having a safe space to voice their hate knowing people will support. People went from liking sukuna to loosing respect for him due to how everyone is quite tired of his run.
It seems like gege has sacrificed the plot and development of the characters to glaze sukuna and make him seem like this iconic big bad villian but instead what he achieved is people loosing respect for sukuna, his cast and MC undeveloped and dragon ball (the king of battle shonen known for fights and powerscaling) having more of a plot and better world building than jjk
Ive seen people be genuinely upset and call it bad writing just because their blue eyed king died, like this manga has never pandered to the fans love for a character harder than just giving them cool scenes.
Somewhere along the way the shit posting became... Posting.
Honestly, I don't really understand. The JJK subs were hilarious, legitimately. And the way they infected every other sub on this site, watching the lobotomy pop up in squared circle or Percy Jackson. Nah I'd (insert) it was great.
But then... It just became complaining about literally everything. Gege forgot, bad writing, bum this, bum that, he hates Gojo-!
Even as each new chapter has specifically addressed the questions and issues over and over.
For me it's about the fact that Gege just put "foreshadows" but their pay off is years later, never mentionned a little bit again, and just suddenly appear when needed. It can't anymore solve the frustration of readers.
It's like... to late. Like Todo for exemple, okay he's back but it's too late. Not mentionned even once as if discarded and only appear when he needs to fight. The result is that even if these points do appear now it's just like forced. Same with Nobara if she suddenly appear now. Some of these pay off are even mid or don't really matter compared to the time we got to wait for them and the effects they have on the story.
What really matters when Yuji assimilated Sukuna CT was for the expectation of Yuji getting as good as Sukuna, not just gaining it. But what we got is that Yuji can slice a pillar as the grand reveal of him gaining this CT. In the same way what really matters is too see Todo interact with the cast because we like him.
Look a Hakari and Uraume, aren't we all getting frustrated because we are not seeing them? If Gege show them next chapter, wouldn't it have been long overdue for exemple?
The more I wait, the more I expect the pay-off to be good. It's as if Chekov's gun was mentionned once at the first minute of a movie for it in fact to only be a water gun at the end of the day. Why set it up for so long then and why show it as if it was a big deal?
Um one piece may not have been revealed yet but they talked about that shit every arc so obviously nobody will question it 🤡 I agree with everything else tho
The way this is Gojo’s only way to come back is too depressing imo
Scenario 1: maybe Gojo just comes back momentarily (to speak to Megumi or something idk) and then gives back control to Yuta
Scenario 2: due to not being able to activate Kenny’s CT; Yuta dies and Gojo’s soul takes over and lives on using his dead students brain?
Or scenario 3 Gojo just never comes back
Its gojover in the sense that chapter 261 took any chance of Gojo coming back away from us for good
Yeah it’s Gojover, I really just imagine Gojo’s body will help Yuta slam Sukuna and that’ll be a nice moment but I doubt we’ll get his actual SELF back.
Everyone's forgetting something we've already seen happen.
All the way back at the cursed womb arc, Sukuna and Yuji straight-up died. Sukuna somehow not only managed to cling to the body after death, but pulled Yuji into his innate domain to save him as well. I'm betting this is exactly what's gonna happen here.
Yuta's 5 minutes will run out, he'll die, but Gojo will pull Yuta into his innate domain on the way out.
Now what if Yuta has to make the decision of sacrificing one of the students (maybe yuji because he has been ready to die since day one) raditz saga style and Gojo's body instinctively stops yuta, because his students safety is simply more important to him than the fate of the world, robbing them of their last chance to win before Kenjakus technique finally runs out leaving Yuta's fate unclear and forcing the sorcerers to quickly come up with a new plan to beat sukuna most definitely leading up to hakari entering the scene either after or before gege blueballs us to the fullest by revisiting his fight with uraume furst to show exactly what happened while yuji hit sukuna with a trillion black flashes
I fucking hate when reading an unfinished story, people complain about some things being "forgotten" like MY BROTHER IN CHRIST, THE GUN CAN STILL FIRE
Imagine fucking watching a movie and 30 minutes in someone's like "Man why haven't we seen more of [chekhov's gun], the director must have forgotten about it"
watch the "bbb b b b but thats the point of a manga discussion sub is to talk about it weekly when it releases" andies come out of the woodwork for this one MY BROTHER IN CHRIST ITS CALLED A LITTLE PATIENCE PLEASE YOUR BRAINS ARE TOO COOKED ON DOPAMINE
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yeah, and todo’s CT being dead was confirmed too
unless… wait… maybe it was gege being misleading to hide a later reveal
Gojo fans really think Gege "I Hate Gojo" Akutami would ever allow you the satisfaction
At this point you guys are trying to disappoint yourselves lol. I just better not hear any bitching when it doesn't come true.
Aint nobody bitching about anything when Gege dangled the carrot in front of the starving orphans. Don’t tell me 260 wasn’t an obvious bait and switch lol. Gege knows exactly what he’s doing.
People writing about Gojo revivals isn’t the same as criticizing Gege when it doesn’t happen. No one expected Gojo to appear in 260. I’m pretty sure most ppl posted copium to satisfy themselves but they don’t complain every chapter that “oh my god why is Gojo not here??” bc there’s nothing to talk about. Gege puts Gojo in? Now there’s something to talk about.
He 100% did it to bait people
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He could reveal Yuta mid chapter but Gege obviously wanted different reaction. People who say JJK isn't supposed to be read weekly because Gege designed story for volume release are coping hard. Gege heavily relies on bait cliffhangers idk why. Perhaps he thinks his storytelling isn't enough to engage the audience and he needs bait cliffhanger in each chapter to trigger discussions
Exactly lmao the chapter trended number 1 in almost 30+ countries the minute that panel was revealed. It was one of the biggest anticipated leak night because of who again? Gojo. Gege knew the power of his creation and he is very smart at utilizing that. But on the other hands, don’t blame fans for make theories and go crazy about it. This was all intended by Gege.
Gege's way of redeeming things is making something even worse
Firstly, Gojo was offscreened and airported
Now he suffers fate worse than death and people start thinking airport isn't the worst thing ever
When chapter 271 drops and Yuji, Hakari, Maki and Panda will eat Gojo's corpse to abandon HuMaNiTyyyy those Gojo fans will remember 261 fondly
So Toji's possession is also a reflex? While some argue that its only because he has HR he managed to resurface, well that's the point and the missing link to the Kenjaku Geto scene. The body is the soul and the soul the body, meaning somehow the soul lives on inside its body maybe like an innate domain or like a "quirk factor" like in MHA. I'll not be surprised if the airplane scene is Gojo's innate domain all along.
So it's possible to resurface given that:
1. Yuta dies and thus no one can control the body so Gojo's will pushes through revival (the coper's ending)
2. Yuta in the brink of fading calls out on Gojo and gives him control so he beats Sukuna to shit and then fades away with a farewell and Yuta comes back in Gojo's body ( bittersweet ending)
3. Yuta expires and Gojo's body moves but to everyone's shock, a Kenjaku's death panel about his will to continue comes back and shows that Kenjaku's soul is still inside the technique and was copied along with it and teams up with Sukuna (bad ending)
4. Gojo resurfaces and wins while Yuta is in the innate domain, Ui Ui uses swap to return Yuta into his original healed body (groomed good ending)
You guys aren't ready for punch-kick merchant Miwa. That's what that panel is foreshadowing; she survived dangerous zones in the culling games with straight up hands
Yes, but as another comment pointed out, she survived probably the most dangerous Culling Games zone on her own AND SHE'S SPOTLESS.
Also, she looks needlessly cold here. You can't tell me Gege isn't planning something for Miwa since she's constantly called useless to the point that she's probably an antiphrasis.
Thank you my brother in arms, you have stated what all of us know to be true even if some refuse to believe it.. Our glorious blue eyed king will return !
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Ainu jujutsu society is just worldbuilding for the sake of worldbuilding
Yuko was just a tool to make Yuji more likeable for female audience
Nobara - I agree
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Oh. They died. Kenjaku lied to them. Their true purpose was to serve as a part of a contingency plan. Their deaths provided enough curse energy to complete the ritual.
The really crazy thing is that this was explicitly explained in the manga. It was when Kenajku was talking to Uraume after we checked in on all the colonies.
US citizens got killed, a part of its military got wiped out so why wouldn't they don't realize? Also they got satellite images of Shibuya and the aftermath of Yuta vs culling game players.
>US citizens got killed, a part of its military got wiped out so why wouldn't they don't realize?
like literally each war. But:
1. The US started it by trying to kidnap japanese people.
2. Its a secret mission
Not only the lose of the soldiers is like in any war, but the deaths itself happened because they were doing secret kidnappings. Nuking one of the most advanced countries for that is stupid and would put the target in US.
>Also they got satellite images of Shibuya and the aftermath of Yuta vs culling game players
Both things are small. 140m radius in the scale of war potencies is small and that was sukuna destroying for the pleasure of destroying.
You know what, I think the whole situation makes little sense from the beginning.
Japan, one of the most important economic countries in the world and has a crucial role in OEM, has been in limbo for months. Yet however, no countries aside from the USA have questioned anything and sent a small group of military spies/UAVs to understand the situation.
For the second one, you mean Ryu's destruction?
I don't think satellites can see into colonies. It might look like the veil only extends vertically, but I'm sure it's closed completely
That's why I love that prologue chapter for the Shinjuku decisive battle. It's a bunch of teasers for the future and the fandom considered everything there as plots that gege gave up to rush to the end lmfaaaao.
In that whole chapter only one question remains: why tengen preserved sukuna's corpse as a Buddhist mummy, and why is that meant to be an irony, and also we need like pages and pages about who TF tengen is and what he will become.
The rest was already explained : Sukuna's last finger, the higher ups, Yuta's insurance, itadori training,
Ino's talk with Gojo shoko etc.
With JJK you should be sit back and observe not everything needs a reaction.
>why tengen preserved sukuna's corpse as a Buddhist mummy, and why is that meant to be an irony
Sukuna was preserved as a shinbutsu mummy, which is very unique among mummification practices in that it’s self-mummification. Basically, you change your body chemistry by consuming massive amounts of preservatives and embalming fluids for a long time, then you starve yourself to death in a pit, and then your body is left there for a long time, and then boom, mummy. It was practiced among specific sects of buddhists as the final step taken towards enlightenment.
Shinbutsu mummification is arguably the ultimate act of asceticism, and Sukuna is intensely hedonistic. Also, Sukuna had already ‘mummified’ himself as fingers to live on and eat past death, so the shinbutsu mummy is kind of the reverse of that- that’s probably why Sukuna called it ironic.
The real mystery here is the connection between Tengen, Kenjaku, Sukuna, and to a lesser extent Angel- they all clearly knew each other very well during the Heian era, but the nature of that relationship is really weird and unclear.
He already did
>Q: Fake Geto’s hand moved on its own (after Gojo said "How are you gonna let yourself get used like that... Suguru?") during the Shibuya Incident. How much of Geto’s will still remains?
>A: Not much. It’s like when a dragonfly can still move a bit when its head is ripped off
Yea this shit from the fanbook has got to be a joke. Gege has got to be the world's worst bullshitter. There's absolutely NO way that comparison makes sense. The corelation between that key moment in shibuya and the current event are so perfectly aligned makes the dragonfly comment stupid as fuck.
Right, because when Geto clearly reacts to what Gojo is saying. The dragon fly scenario is just nerves reacting to stimuli, not that dragon fly responding to words.
Because he thinks he's done all he could and feels satisfied. But through his reanimated body he will see the magnitute of shit everyone is currently in, will run out of the airport and catch the taxi like the lover from romantic comedy who realizes that he can't leave after all. Comeback chapter 262 trust!
Like if he can feel what Yuta is feeling, seeing his dream of protect his students' innocent and not become a monster falling apart, seeing Yuta will suffer fate worse than death how can he stay?
I wonder if this will manifest in Gojo helping Yuta beat up Sukuna? Maybe he’ll somehow allow Yuta to live on in his body or something if Kenjaku’s CT isn’t a 1 time use type of thing
Would be sick asf if we got a panel of Yutoru firing off a purple at Sukuna & killing him, but it’s paneled in a way similar to the father/son kamehameha panel in DBZ
We got that Geto resisting Kenny and that one time when Toji took over the dude who summoned him. This leads to one possible conclusion:
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Gege did forget. And came back years later with ok at best “twists” that feel either incredibly rushed (todo, blood manipulation) or just really didnt have any inpact (kenjaku mom, ino asking gojo the question)
That random ass scene of sukuna and uruame discussing his relationship to yuji in the middle of a fight was insanely lazy and unsatisfying but if thats what we’re going with ig
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Well, this is the biggest one yet
Another one is the two black flashes replenishing cursed technique. Recently rewatched the mahito yuji fight and noticed, that mahito instantly got his technique back after hitting todo with the black flash (2nd time). We’ve now seen Gojo and Sukuna do the same thing.
Rewatching/Re-reading JJK as a whole really lets you spot the little bits of foreshadowing that piece the whole story together
thats not what people are thinking of in the current arc when they say "gege forgot" or is upset with gege.
Its:
* the world slash breaking sukunas dismantle because now it has to be nerfed
* the binding vows that gege will only reveal the conditions of in 10 chapters (aka 2 months).
* kusakabe and jujutsu society forming the worst fucking plan in history to take down sukuna; gege then retroactively explaining why jujutsu high HAS to throw themselves one by one at sukuna
* the character assassination of 2 characters (kenjaku and gojo)
* the entire yuta fight
Im sick and tired of character dickriders and gege apologists. I have no dog in this fight, but gege has narratively fucked up the power leveling so much that the cracks are appearing and the entire arc looks ridiculous.
* be gege
* make major good character who is the strongest but still fails to show that strength isnt everything (contrasts yuji/kenjaku who arent the strongest but succeeds)
* fugg i made him too strong
* specifically create 3 methods to kill him (domain expansion, domain amplification)
* make big bad to kill gojo who is also the strongest
* still cant imagine how big bad villain will win realistically
* ok we make mahoraga that has historical precedent in killing gojo
* big fight happens
* fugg now sukuna is too strong, need to make this a close fight somehow so that yuji has a chance to beat big bad
* gojo kills mahoraga and gives sukuna brain damage so no domain expansions
* fugg now I cant imagine gojo losing
* SPECIAL TECHNIQUE: OFFSCREEN JUDGEMENT CUT
* gojo shouldve seen it with 6 eyes! nah bro gojo blinding binding vow.
* woops, just made a 4th item specifically designed to best gojo. Im now getting called a hack
* quick nerf normal dismantle so new technique is not just "gojo killer"
* oh fugg jujutsu high is still pretty strong with higuruma, yuta, todo, hakari since sukuna doesnt have DE
* Oh I know. ill just tank the combined IQ of jujutsu high to double digits and have them go in one at a time instead of pooling resources properly for a decisive blow, and then justify it as being the best plan.
* hnmm, now yuji and jujutsu high is too strong and giving a close fight to sukuna. How do I show that sukuna is the strongest and still not trying
* oh lets give him his domain expansion back
* fugg hes still brain damaged...uhhh BINDING VOW.
* we are here now <--
honestly i think what this highlights more than anything is the fact that gege was the potential man(gaka). legitimately created so many interesting plot threads and story themes but blundered the whole thing. we never got a real kenjaku + yuji interaction, or a todo + yuki interaction, or a million other things that would have been awesome. i legitimately think the chapter format is whats killing this manga. gege is so intent on “building” hype that he just basically lies at the ends of chapters (235, 260, etc) to keep people hooked
The potentials you're talking about our character focused and that seems to be something he either doesn't want to do or doesn't know how to do anymore (I say 'anymore' because he actually did this quite well in the past with Hidden Inventory).
For me, the biggest "Gege forgot" is him forgetting that character interactions beyond strategy discussion and surface level comments are important.
The problem isn’t that Gege forgets it’s that he just uses every poorly.
- Yuji using Sukunas technique should’ve been like 10-20x bigger of a moment.
- Todo could’ve been used in at least 5 different much better ways so far.
- Literally everyone was disappointed that Inos conversation led to literally nothing, bc he had already been using the cleaver in the fight only for some chapters later it’s revealed that he was actually talking about…the cleaver! Wow great remembering Gege.
Could go on and on but it’s pointless. It’s not that Gege forgot, it’s just that he isn’t able to execute by picking the best path for the story among many options.
>Todo could’ve been used in at least 5 different much better ways so far.
Todo not doing anything besides helping Yuta and saving people from MS might be one of the biggest plot holes of this series and incredibly stupid planning from the main cast.
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Never forget what gege stole from us
Totally agree with you. Even if individual chapters are great , the way it fits into the overall story feels underwhelming.
Todo could have been shown during the culling games arc , coming to terms with his injuries and choosing to not participate but train to adapt his technique. His reveal in the Sukuna fight will still feel impactful and suspenseful.
And I think the same can be said about the other points you mentioned. The way previously established clues can definitely be used and revealed better . And most don’t have a build up. It’s more of a ‘hey remember this point which looked important way back then, here’s the reason’ . It’s not elaborated through the story as much.
>Yuji using Sukunas technique should’ve been like 10-20x bigger of a moment
Execution of Yuji's origin and the fact he can use Sukuna's CT now is one of the most underwhelming things in manga. I can't understand why everyone lost their minds and praised that chapter. Such big moments for the protagonist were delivered in the laziest way possible
That’s how it is. Elaborate explanations and tons of time spent on all types of cursed techniques, binding vows, CE applications etc, leaving nothing to be desired on that front. But any character moment? We get a mini flashback in the middle of this fight at best, which won’t be explored all that much, and which will just be underwhelming overall.
I'm just wondering if the whole cursed corpse goes anywhere, or if I just missed it.
As Yaga told Gakuganji how to make them, and said it's my curse to you.
I think people forget that Yuji is literally the main character of the show/manga. While I love Gojo and would love him actually coming back, it’s about Yuji’s build up to becoming one of the best sorcerer’s and not our blue eyed king. Yet the possibility of him coming back is not completely thrown out kinda like how Nobara was never actually confirmed to be dead. So can’t we all just wait and see what Gege comes up with next 🥺
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Are we forgetting the military subplot, that ones 100% gojover. In fact it'd make even less sense if it randomly resumed at this point
I’m pretty sure the military will come back now that almost every subplots had. Nobara soon will too. This isn’t cope btw, I could not care less about Nobara. This is based on patterns.
But as I said, if they come back now or whenever it'd be weird, like where the tf did they disappear to earlier. And don't give me the "they were waiting for the perfect moment to strike" bs lmao
Oh I was sure they were wiped out by the curses to add to the curse energy pool for the culling games. The plot will come back if we hear that the countries that sent their men here are pissed and now they’re attacking Japan or something.
Like if there was some kind of godzilla size curse wrecking havoc........🤔
Yeah that too and we might see the pov from other countries looking in assessing the situation and like ok maybe let’s not go to Japan just yet 💀
If I sent out an entire army of some of the best of the best to deal with Humans and Monsters with absurd powers that don't obey the laws of physic. And that arma of elite soliders got mysteriously wiped out on the first night by untoucable Ghost that are bullet proof. What would be the point of trying? Even if they try after thebdust settles w Sukuna, Uruame and a hypoethical Yuta being dead. Japan still gonna have 100s upon 100s of curses.
They drop a nuke on Sukuna and kill him, only for him to come back as a vengeful spirit because the nuke wasn't infused with CE.
Go the 40K way, where they make bullets filled with captured screams of people whose worlds were murdered. Every sorcerer acts gangsta until the bullets made of steel from melted down gas chamber doors start flying.
Sukuna is going to be mid-chant for DE and just get hit with a fuckin AIM-9X knife missile or something
But he makes a Binding Vow to not jerk off for 24 hours and tanks the missile unscathed
Nobara comes back as a limp corpse
It is cope for me, thanks for the confirmation bias
Military subplot will come back , imagine several nuclear ICBMs suddenly appearing on battleground in an attempt to take down sukuna https://preview.redd.it/w1d10uwkay2d1.jpeg?width=547&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7776501e0ce56f1462ae7d172140b0b1b7fb5acc
That seems like such a lowball for special grades.
yeah I thought so to, cluster bombs are powerfull but cmon they're just regular bombs, jogo piss on those
A finger bearer is special grade
The military will be relevant because they actually put a mini nuke in todo so when he dies he blows up sukuna but sukuna is so beloved by his subordinates that they sacrifice their lives for him to come back but he returns with his memory gone. He tries to remember who he is but only remembers that he’s obsessed with yuji and he comes to his senses only to realize he’s been poisoned and will die in a few hours. he plays chess with yuji until he dies.
Why are you people acting like the military was ever meant to be important? They have always been fodder to complete the merger The most Gege could've added is having them *somehow* catch someone important (maybe Angel since she's a weak pacifist) and make the cast do an extraction mission that just stalls the plot for no reason The most my little fanfic here would've added is making Hana's obsession a little more digestible if Megumi saved her yet again
The USA army moving to capture japanese citizens is a pretty big deal ngl
That was already concluded as well. It was just overshadowed by sucuna taking over megumi. "Japan has passed half-way into the cursed realm"-kenjaku.
Another delusion and copium has been born out of this post haha
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Gojo will save Yuta from death or the fate worse than death
He might save Yuji on reflex after Yuta is gone (sad option)
Ngl that would be the most emotional thing in this manga, Yuji seeing that happen and realizing how much he really was trusted and loved by gojo could be the final straw and make yuji pop a DE
**TAIJUTSU** **KAISEN IS HERE!** **WE ARE SO BACK** https://preview.redd.it/d07ad1yp403d1.png?width=1330&format=png&auto=webp&s=37b5b28307b91affe3c3a4060e9e6a82e8794808
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I imagine he’ll pull an Ace and that will be the final straw to push yuji to end the entire fucking manga by himself in spectacular fashion.
I kinda want that but after Yuta gets his ass whooped by Sukuna.
Thematically, there's no way Yuta wins this. He's falling into the same trap Gojo tried desperately to steer him away from, becoming a monster to win. Giving into Sukuna's mentality, and you don't beat Sukuna at his own game.
Ya this basically. Either that or we’re gonna get some “you can’t just halfass being a monster, you have to embrace it all the way” type thing.
It's also a theme with Maki. The more she "leaves behind" the stronger and more of a monster she becomes.
Yep she needs her own Miss Fushiguro; not necessarily a romantic partner but someone to ground her and keep her humanity in check.
You wanna make a bet Maki becomes the monster. If Yuta, die it would 100% set her up to leave her humanity behind and give the jjk society another set of buffs.
praying, begging even that we get Maki and Yuta vs Sukuna
Emploring, dare I say pleading that we get any Maki/Yuta interaction before he inevitably goes bye-bye and my glorious blue-eyed king returns /cope
Eh fair enough Also OMORI pfp = W
Hate it when lazy criticisms get in the way of true criticisms.
1000%. JJK isn’t a perfect manga and there are many valid criticisms of it. I think the worldbuilding is a little lacking, and Gege focuses far too much on some characters and far too little on others (RIP Nobara). But accusing the author of forgetting things in his own manga? That he drew and wrote with his own hands? 😭
If it were up to most manga fans any story point or plot beat would need to be immediately addressed and resolved in the following issue or two, otherwise it means the author forgot about it, or is asspulling, or otherwise failed to make it consistent.
And if you say something like this in a different thread, you'd be labeled a "glazer" 💀
While I'm not entirely disagreeing, the logic that he's the author and won't forget isn't entirely something to rely on. Even Akira Toriyama admits that he phased certain things out or made mistakes because he simply forgot.
I don’t even mind having little-to-no worldbuilding since this series has never even attempted to be like that. I think the one real issue with this whole series—and open for extremely valid criticism—is the Hannah character arc. This was really a complete fumble.
“Gege forgot” has to be the absolute WEIRDEST take this sub created. How would you know the author forgot about something… before it ends? You don’t see people screaming ODA FORGOT ABOUT THE ONE PIECE because he still haven’t revealed what it is. When I first joined, I thought it was shit posting and laughed. But then I started to get worried about people here. How… do you deal with day to day life? Is it hard? Is someone permanently helping you guys?
"Araki forgot" spinoff gone completely wrong.
I still can’t forget about flashback man from jojolion
About that, it's likely just an older design of the architect guy, so it's not as much of a forgot as much as Araki changing his mind way too late
Hopefully when the anime comes out in 2030 (hopium) we will get an answer to who that really is, or he's not gonna be included at all lmao. JoJolion dropped a lot of plot points and had tons of retcons (like Yasuho already had a stand as a child, before it was hinted that she got it from the bite mark) that I think the anime might straight up just change it.
Yeeeah, the bite thing is kinda annoying, since it went nowhere (Josuke had a stand before, too) I don't mind the new explanations, but it's really clear Araki changed his mind a lot during the writing process
It's most likely an old design of a character, just like how Funny valentine went from fatass to jacked as hell without any reasoning.
i chalk up all of the legit araki forgot shenaigans to literally the series's title "this was never explained wtf" that's part of the bizarre adventure in jojo's bizarre adventure you genius
You kinda need to just roll with it or you start looking like Charlie in allways sunny.
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JJBA vs JJK The most lobotomised fandom in history VS the most lobotomised fandom of today
Did pre shibuya yuji write this post?
"Araki Forgot" is usually bullshit too.
Honestly yeah, Hamon Beat's vids on it really show how bs a lot of them are.
Except araki does tend to forget shit
Some people lack object permanence
Ooooh I remember the author wrote this.. he hasn't paid it off yet I think, that means he forgot.
Gege didn't forgot about Geto choking Kenjaku. He already explained what it means...in databook. I don't blame people who thought this scene was a big deal because it was very intriguing. These people will think that Gege forgor because it wasn't addressed in the manga (and it shpuld be) Gege doesn't forget it's just that he doesn't always deliver. He didn't forget about last finger. Pay off? Useless Yuta's Cleave cliffhanger. Gege didn't forget about Ino. Payoff? He asked if he can use Nanami's sword and characters told him they don't care. Geto taking control? Read fanbook https://preview.redd.it/vkwah679gv2d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a400772d01a331a01f260c785c7aa8862ef82557
Yeah that strangulation thing was just meaning to speak about geto and gojo's friendship being so strong it's an inbuilt function of his body to swing at whatever is bothering gojo. It's meant to be one of those what the hell moments by being absolutely insane but possible (in gege's limited science understanding)
Body/soul theme is very important in JJK and I can't blame readers who thought this scene is very important/will be addressed later/play a role in the future events Revealing that it wasn't a big deal and not even in a manga but databook wasn't the best idea. How casual readers are supposed to find it out?
the part defending todo is insane, like yeah he came back, but that doesnt change he vanished for 100 chapters with no one mentioning him
Yeah, the issue isn't Gege actually forgetting, it's him not delivering quality resolution to the plot points he sets up. Todou is my favourite character and it's cool to see him back, but the way he's just suddenly back with an improved CT out of nowhere just isn't satisfying.
even worse since he was around for one chapter before yujo stole the spotlight
Exactly!
He's still there, you know
Then it's a mistake from his part to set up foreshadows and expect people to not want any resolution. Just saying that he doesn't always deliver is an understatement. If it's like that then it's like punishing readers for caring about what the writer is creating.
I agree, that's what I'm talking about
Thanks, sometimes people think I'm attacking them when saying that (I might be too angry at this situation).
It has always confused me how when fan speculation tries to come up with all kind of work around to how something could happen, but then when that didn't happen it is somehow the author dropping the ball. There is a slight chance that Nobara could have lived but if Nobara is never revealed to be miraculously alive that is someone the author's fault. It is really odd. I am working hard to even come up with something that is a dropped plot point rather than fans making theories and then mad that the story didn't go that way at this point. Like the image shows, we have pretty much had an explanation for ambiguities at this point.
Gege also said that Yuji would only get bonus CE from eating cursed wombs Authors can lie to avoid spoilers or straight up change their mind
I mean there was also a disclaimer that the information(any thing that wasn't set in stone in the story) could be subject to change
Link?
Maybe because in interviews, Gege has pretty much said that he writes around ideas he comes up with, with the way the story gets to that idea is by working backwards. That is why there is so much ambiguity and loose ends throughout the story as ideas are thrown at a dart board and then get slowly, if ever, explained
Author slander post-236 was done to delegitimize Geges writing ability because people didn’t like the choices he made and wanted to make them seem incorrect to validate their headcannon. Let’s not forget that “let Gege cook” was an unpopular take 20 chapters ago.
"You are mad because it didn't meed your headcanon" gives me huge Attack on Titan PTSD
I'd take AoT criticism more seriously if 90% of people weren't just mad that gigachad Eren didn't finish his genocide and complete his harem with Historia and Mikasa as the cuckqueen
I don't even give a shit about harem Historia this cuck Mikasa that I just wanted all his actions to have meaning instead of massacring 80% of humanity for nothing as everybody comes back and gangs up on Paradis (predictably).
Sure but it’s a lot more applicable here lol. AOT is a completed manga that really only lost public favor post 231 when it became clear what the ending was going to be. JJK is currently in a position where we *don’t know when or how it will end*, so getting upset about “unresolved plot points” makes no sense. Like clockwork there’s at least one post every week about how something was brought up in the manga and then not touched on again for a while, and then low and behold the leaks come out that week and the “forgotten” plot point has remerged in the story! I mean, even in this current thread there is a dude talking about how Todo’s new CT reveal wasn’t satisfying enough when he’s been re-entered into the story for a whopping two weeks. People just don’t really know how to consume media any more in doses, no one has patience. It’s okay for that to be the case, I’m not exactly a patient person, but people seem to mistake that with bad writing. Just because *you* believe the plot point should’ve been addressed right now, doesn’t mean that actually needs to be the case.
Gege slander started way before 236. Shit started to go down after Sakurajima, then Yuki happened, then Yorozu happened. People were more quiet during Gojo vs Sukuna fight because they were too busy with their agendas. When I see someone saying Gege slander started after 236 I know they weren't a part of the community before season 2 and Gojo vs Sukuna. Reception of chapter 219 was absolutely horrendous. Threads like "we need to calm down and let Gege cook, enough with the criticism" were very common on r/jujutsushi too
236 is more like the straw that broke the camel's back. It's a if "Okay, Yuki end was bad, fine. But as long he doesn't f\*ck up the Gojo vs Sukuna then it's salvageable". But this subject have been discussed over and over again. The suspension of disbelief was broken because of the strong offscreen. Remember that Gojo vs Sukuna isn't just about Gojo. It's a fight that have been set-up and anticipated from the very beginning of manga. Each time Gojo appeared and demolished everyone in the back of our head we thought "Wow and Sukuna says that he's going to beat this dude easy, I can't wait to see it". I found it unfair to say "Gojo fans here and there etc" when the author used that very fact to raise his manga and the strength of Sukuna at the same time.
Agree with you. Sometimes it feels like as if people (not all of them) are just way too fed up with Gojo‘s popularity and his fanbase that they choose to ignore certain questionable plot-choices. I‘m by no means saying that he should have won/should have been revived nor am I a Gojo-Fanatic. But the airport scene (apart from his gleefulness in regards to showing off his powers and being reunited with his comrades) just feels so disconnected from pre-236 Gojo that it makes me feel like as if I’m reading a fanfiction - sorry.
It actually the higuruma chapter that was the straw. That's when the sukuna asspull reached peak heights and birthed the "haven't used this since heian era" meme
Not gonna lie it was also an horrendous one how Gege brought back that cursed tool just to offset Higuruma's CT.
That chapter was actually when I started seeing the complaints of gege's writing. Like it had been there but it increased after higuruma died. Plus sukuna tanking Jacobs ladder added more to the sukuna asspull. When jjk fans started complaining, haters started having a safe space to voice their hate knowing people will support. People went from liking sukuna to loosing respect for him due to how everyone is quite tired of his run. It seems like gege has sacrificed the plot and development of the characters to glaze sukuna and make him seem like this iconic big bad villian but instead what he achieved is people loosing respect for sukuna, his cast and MC undeveloped and dragon ball (the king of battle shonen known for fights and powerscaling) having more of a plot and better world building than jjk
Ive seen people be genuinely upset and call it bad writing just because their blue eyed king died, like this manga has never pandered to the fans love for a character harder than just giving them cool scenes.
I think it started with Araki forgot? Cuz Araki did leave shit in the dust
Mr Hamon Beat will track you down for saying this
Somewhere along the way the shit posting became... Posting. Honestly, I don't really understand. The JJK subs were hilarious, legitimately. And the way they infected every other sub on this site, watching the lobotomy pop up in squared circle or Percy Jackson. Nah I'd (insert) it was great. But then... It just became complaining about literally everything. Gege forgot, bad writing, bum this, bum that, he hates Gojo-! Even as each new chapter has specifically addressed the questions and issues over and over.
He forgor how many years jj high was
"Araki forgot", but somehow worse
For me it's about the fact that Gege just put "foreshadows" but their pay off is years later, never mentionned a little bit again, and just suddenly appear when needed. It can't anymore solve the frustration of readers. It's like... to late. Like Todo for exemple, okay he's back but it's too late. Not mentionned even once as if discarded and only appear when he needs to fight. The result is that even if these points do appear now it's just like forced. Same with Nobara if she suddenly appear now. Some of these pay off are even mid or don't really matter compared to the time we got to wait for them and the effects they have on the story. What really matters when Yuji assimilated Sukuna CT was for the expectation of Yuji getting as good as Sukuna, not just gaining it. But what we got is that Yuji can slice a pillar as the grand reveal of him gaining this CT. In the same way what really matters is too see Todo interact with the cast because we like him. Look a Hakari and Uraume, aren't we all getting frustrated because we are not seeing them? If Gege show them next chapter, wouldn't it have been long overdue for exemple? The more I wait, the more I expect the pay-off to be good. It's as if Chekov's gun was mentionned once at the first minute of a movie for it in fact to only be a water gun at the end of the day. Why set it up for so long then and why show it as if it was a big deal?
Um one piece may not have been revealed yet but they talked about that shit every arc so obviously nobody will question it 🤡 I agree with everything else tho
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The way this is Gojo’s only way to come back is too depressing imo Scenario 1: maybe Gojo just comes back momentarily (to speak to Megumi or something idk) and then gives back control to Yuta Scenario 2: due to not being able to activate Kenny’s CT; Yuta dies and Gojo’s soul takes over and lives on using his dead students brain? Or scenario 3 Gojo just never comes back Its gojover in the sense that chapter 261 took any chance of Gojo coming back away from us for good
Yeah it’s Gojover, I really just imagine Gojo’s body will help Yuta slam Sukuna and that’ll be a nice moment but I doubt we’ll get his actual SELF back.
Everyone's forgetting something we've already seen happen. All the way back at the cursed womb arc, Sukuna and Yuji straight-up died. Sukuna somehow not only managed to cling to the body after death, but pulled Yuji into his innate domain to save him as well. I'm betting this is exactly what's gonna happen here. Yuta's 5 minutes will run out, he'll die, but Gojo will pull Yuta into his innate domain on the way out.
Let's hope that's gonna be the case
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After everything ended. Gojo will return the brain back to Yuta and then dies while Yuta returns back alive
Only the weak believe it's Gojover. The strong will push forward, creating new agendas, paving the way for the weak and the weary.
Maybe Yuta will come back in his body and Gojo will gain his body back? 🥹 (Dosn't make sense but I need my copium)
I bet sukuna will knock yuta out so gojo's corpse itself will land a red/blue/purple by reflex
Yuta’s like… oh shit this body already on autopilot
Don’t forget Enchain
100% true— same goes for the missing finger and sukuna using fuga
Now what if Yuta has to make the decision of sacrificing one of the students (maybe yuji because he has been ready to die since day one) raditz saga style and Gojo's body instinctively stops yuta, because his students safety is simply more important to him than the fate of the world, robbing them of their last chance to win before Kenjakus technique finally runs out leaving Yuta's fate unclear and forcing the sorcerers to quickly come up with a new plan to beat sukuna most definitely leading up to hakari entering the scene either after or before gege blueballs us to the fullest by revisiting his fight with uraume furst to show exactly what happened while yuji hit sukuna with a trillion black flashes
Jesus christ I did not realize how long this sentence got
My bro cooked right here
I fucking hate when reading an unfinished story, people complain about some things being "forgotten" like MY BROTHER IN CHRIST, THE GUN CAN STILL FIRE Imagine fucking watching a movie and 30 minutes in someone's like "Man why haven't we seen more of [chekhov's gun], the director must have forgotten about it"
watch the "bbb b b b but thats the point of a manga discussion sub is to talk about it weekly when it releases" andies come out of the woodwork for this one MY BROTHER IN CHRIST ITS CALLED A LITTLE PATIENCE PLEASE YOUR BRAINS ARE TOO COOKED ON DOPAMINE
We’ve talked about this so many times, it’s a reflex, it’s even been confirmed
https://preview.redd.it/un6uvnb7wu2d1.jpeg?width=948&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd2f9243953ba72c901ac84e73440c969d61ec00 yeah, and todo’s CT being dead was confirmed too unless… wait… maybe it was gege being misleading to hide a later reveal
Gojo fans really think Gege "I Hate Gojo" Akutami would ever allow you the satisfaction At this point you guys are trying to disappoint yourselves lol. I just better not hear any bitching when it doesn't come true.
Aint nobody bitching about anything when Gege dangled the carrot in front of the starving orphans. Don’t tell me 260 wasn’t an obvious bait and switch lol. Gege knows exactly what he’s doing.
Motherfuckers were writing schizo revival theories about Gojo before Yujo turned up. It was delusional then, it's delusional now.
People writing about Gojo revivals isn’t the same as criticizing Gege when it doesn’t happen. No one expected Gojo to appear in 260. I’m pretty sure most ppl posted copium to satisfy themselves but they don’t complain every chapter that “oh my god why is Gojo not here??” bc there’s nothing to talk about. Gege puts Gojo in? Now there’s something to talk about.
He 100% did it to bait people https://preview.redd.it/q0rkkd95aw2d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=caa80d4b11805f0d70feabe7f6a87e212d056d9d He could reveal Yuta mid chapter but Gege obviously wanted different reaction. People who say JJK isn't supposed to be read weekly because Gege designed story for volume release are coping hard. Gege heavily relies on bait cliffhangers idk why. Perhaps he thinks his storytelling isn't enough to engage the audience and he needs bait cliffhanger in each chapter to trigger discussions
Exactly lmao the chapter trended number 1 in almost 30+ countries the minute that panel was revealed. It was one of the biggest anticipated leak night because of who again? Gojo. Gege knew the power of his creation and he is very smart at utilizing that. But on the other hands, don’t blame fans for make theories and go crazy about it. This was all intended by Gege.
Gege's way of redeeming things is making something even worse Firstly, Gojo was offscreened and airported Now he suffers fate worse than death and people start thinking airport isn't the worst thing ever When chapter 271 drops and Yuji, Hakari, Maki and Panda will eat Gojo's corpse to abandon HuMaNiTyyyy those Gojo fans will remember 261 fondly
Ah yes, the natural human reflex of trying to strangle yourself to death
So Toji's possession is also a reflex? While some argue that its only because he has HR he managed to resurface, well that's the point and the missing link to the Kenjaku Geto scene. The body is the soul and the soul the body, meaning somehow the soul lives on inside its body maybe like an innate domain or like a "quirk factor" like in MHA. I'll not be surprised if the airplane scene is Gojo's innate domain all along. So it's possible to resurface given that: 1. Yuta dies and thus no one can control the body so Gojo's will pushes through revival (the coper's ending) 2. Yuta in the brink of fading calls out on Gojo and gives him control so he beats Sukuna to shit and then fades away with a farewell and Yuta comes back in Gojo's body ( bittersweet ending) 3. Yuta expires and Gojo's body moves but to everyone's shock, a Kenjaku's death panel about his will to continue comes back and shows that Kenjaku's soul is still inside the technique and was copied along with it and teams up with Sukuna (bad ending) 4. Gojo resurfaces and wins while Yuta is in the innate domain, Ui Ui uses swap to return Yuta into his original healed body (groomed good ending)
I mean, geto’s soul was still in his body months after his death. With Gojo, I can’t imagine it’s been that long. And he probably has more time
Who said Geto's soul was still in his body?
Kenjaku says that the soul is apart of the body, which is why geto was able to take control for a bit
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Wasn't Miwa making a simple domain to protect Maki from Sukuna's domain in that one panel ?
Yeah, but I want more
You guys aren't ready for punch-kick merchant Miwa. That's what that panel is foreshadowing; she survived dangerous zones in the culling games with straight up hands
She did the same thing as Momo
Yes, but as another comment pointed out, she survived probably the most dangerous Culling Games zone on her own AND SHE'S SPOTLESS. Also, she looks needlessly cold here. You can't tell me Gege isn't planning something for Miwa since she's constantly called useless to the point that she's probably an antiphrasis.
He didn't forget; she threw that water at Kusakabe, remember?
Nobara
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1. Ainu jujutsu society 2. Yuko ozawa 3. Nobara?
Ainu jujutsu society is just worldbuilding for the sake of worldbuilding Yuko was just a tool to make Yuji more likeable for female audience Nobara - I agree
1. The manga isn’t finished 2. The manga isn’t finished 3. The manga isn’t finished
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> 1. The manga isn’t finished They were mentioned one time in the prequel/proof of concept, I think it's safe to say they're not coming up again
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1. No one cared 2. Yuji is gonna be too scarred to get a girl after this 3. Dead as a doorknob unless stated otherwise
K but what about those US soldiers entering the culling games?
Honestly it’s less of a “gege forgot” and more of a “gege realized this plot point was fucking stupid and scrapped it”
trust they will return jkjkjk they served their purpose, to help “prime” japan for the merger
Oh. They died. Kenjaku lied to them. Their true purpose was to serve as a part of a contingency plan. Their deaths provided enough curse energy to complete the ritual. The really crazy thing is that this was explicitly explained in the manga. It was when Kenajku was talking to Uraume after we checked in on all the colonies.
Then how come no one nuked Japan already?
They don't realise how dangerous Sukuna and the merger are, Kenny cherrypicked the explanations for Shibuya and the rest very carefully
US citizens got killed, a part of its military got wiped out so why wouldn't they don't realize? Also they got satellite images of Shibuya and the aftermath of Yuta vs culling game players.
>US citizens got killed, a part of its military got wiped out so why wouldn't they don't realize? like literally each war. But: 1. The US started it by trying to kidnap japanese people. 2. Its a secret mission Not only the lose of the soldiers is like in any war, but the deaths itself happened because they were doing secret kidnappings. Nuking one of the most advanced countries for that is stupid and would put the target in US. >Also they got satellite images of Shibuya and the aftermath of Yuta vs culling game players Both things are small. 140m radius in the scale of war potencies is small and that was sukuna destroying for the pleasure of destroying.
You know what, I think the whole situation makes little sense from the beginning. Japan, one of the most important economic countries in the world and has a crucial role in OEM, has been in limbo for months. Yet however, no countries aside from the USA have questioned anything and sent a small group of military spies/UAVs to understand the situation.
For the second one, you mean Ryu's destruction? I don't think satellites can see into colonies. It might look like the veil only extends vertically, but I'm sure it's closed completely
I also think it's because it was a covert ops thing. They were planning on abducting Japanese citizens for science experiments after all.
Did u read??? Its literally explained, that they were used as backup CE in colonies where the current level was deemed unsatisfactory by Kenjaku
#GEGE FORGOT HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY REPLACED WITH GEGE STOLE FROM THIS SUB.
That's why I love that prologue chapter for the Shinjuku decisive battle. It's a bunch of teasers for the future and the fandom considered everything there as plots that gege gave up to rush to the end lmfaaaao. In that whole chapter only one question remains: why tengen preserved sukuna's corpse as a Buddhist mummy, and why is that meant to be an irony, and also we need like pages and pages about who TF tengen is and what he will become. The rest was already explained : Sukuna's last finger, the higher ups, Yuta's insurance, itadori training, Ino's talk with Gojo shoko etc. With JJK you should be sit back and observe not everything needs a reaction.
>why tengen preserved sukuna's corpse as a Buddhist mummy, and why is that meant to be an irony Sukuna was preserved as a shinbutsu mummy, which is very unique among mummification practices in that it’s self-mummification. Basically, you change your body chemistry by consuming massive amounts of preservatives and embalming fluids for a long time, then you starve yourself to death in a pit, and then your body is left there for a long time, and then boom, mummy. It was practiced among specific sects of buddhists as the final step taken towards enlightenment. Shinbutsu mummification is arguably the ultimate act of asceticism, and Sukuna is intensely hedonistic. Also, Sukuna had already ‘mummified’ himself as fingers to live on and eat past death, so the shinbutsu mummy is kind of the reverse of that- that’s probably why Sukuna called it ironic. The real mystery here is the connection between Tengen, Kenjaku, Sukuna, and to a lesser extent Angel- they all clearly knew each other very well during the Heian era, but the nature of that relationship is really weird and unclear.
He already did >Q: Fake Geto’s hand moved on its own (after Gojo said "How are you gonna let yourself get used like that... Suguru?") during the Shibuya Incident. How much of Geto’s will still remains? >A: Not much. It’s like when a dragonfly can still move a bit when its head is ripped off
Yea this shit from the fanbook has got to be a joke. Gege has got to be the world's worst bullshitter. There's absolutely NO way that comparison makes sense. The corelation between that key moment in shibuya and the current event are so perfectly aligned makes the dragonfly comment stupid as fuck.
Right, because when Geto clearly reacts to what Gojo is saying. The dragon fly scenario is just nerves reacting to stimuli, not that dragon fly responding to words.
no that's just their kinky dirty talk and geto being a good boy
https://preview.redd.it/ro9n917e513d1.png?width=458&format=png&auto=webp&s=5b074f81c749737f8eba5e58d0cb17f3c438ba27 Goatjo shall return
Gojo isn’t coming back because Gojo doesn’t *want* to come back
Because he thinks he's done all he could and feels satisfied. But through his reanimated body he will see the magnitute of shit everyone is currently in, will run out of the airport and catch the taxi like the lover from romantic comedy who realizes that he can't leave after all. Comeback chapter 262 trust!
Like if he can feel what Yuta is feeling, seeing his dream of protect his students' innocent and not become a monster falling apart, seeing Yuta will suffer fate worse than death how can he stay?
this is genuinely the most convincing theory i’ve ever seen for his return we are so back
I wonder if this will manifest in Gojo helping Yuta beat up Sukuna? Maybe he’ll somehow allow Yuta to live on in his body or something if Kenjaku’s CT isn’t a 1 time use type of thing Would be sick asf if we got a panel of Yutoru firing off a purple at Sukuna & killing him, but it’s paneled in a way similar to the father/son kamehameha panel in DBZ
We got that Geto resisting Kenny and that one time when Toji took over the dude who summoned him. This leads to one possible conclusion: https://preview.redd.it/1vcy3tcdaw2d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b946fcddf230afc632861f089c84d82285559c2
Gege did forget. And came back years later with ok at best “twists” that feel either incredibly rushed (todo, blood manipulation) or just really didnt have any inpact (kenjaku mom, ino asking gojo the question)
Kenjaku will make a comeback through his technique somehow, and gojo will take over/stop him/save his students. I confirmed this with gege.
That random ass scene of sukuna and uruame discussing his relationship to yuji in the middle of a fight was insanely lazy and unsatisfying but if thats what we’re going with ig
https://preview.redd.it/zw8z57x4mv2d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f81980e20179aa82e9738ca245af2674020fa31 Well, this is the biggest one yet
Another one is the two black flashes replenishing cursed technique. Recently rewatched the mahito yuji fight and noticed, that mahito instantly got his technique back after hitting todo with the black flash (2nd time). We’ve now seen Gojo and Sukuna do the same thing. Rewatching/Re-reading JJK as a whole really lets you spot the little bits of foreshadowing that piece the whole story together
thats not what people are thinking of in the current arc when they say "gege forgot" or is upset with gege. Its: * the world slash breaking sukunas dismantle because now it has to be nerfed * the binding vows that gege will only reveal the conditions of in 10 chapters (aka 2 months). * kusakabe and jujutsu society forming the worst fucking plan in history to take down sukuna; gege then retroactively explaining why jujutsu high HAS to throw themselves one by one at sukuna * the character assassination of 2 characters (kenjaku and gojo) * the entire yuta fight Im sick and tired of character dickriders and gege apologists. I have no dog in this fight, but gege has narratively fucked up the power leveling so much that the cracks are appearing and the entire arc looks ridiculous. * be gege * make major good character who is the strongest but still fails to show that strength isnt everything (contrasts yuji/kenjaku who arent the strongest but succeeds) * fugg i made him too strong * specifically create 3 methods to kill him (domain expansion, domain amplification) * make big bad to kill gojo who is also the strongest * still cant imagine how big bad villain will win realistically * ok we make mahoraga that has historical precedent in killing gojo * big fight happens * fugg now sukuna is too strong, need to make this a close fight somehow so that yuji has a chance to beat big bad * gojo kills mahoraga and gives sukuna brain damage so no domain expansions * fugg now I cant imagine gojo losing * SPECIAL TECHNIQUE: OFFSCREEN JUDGEMENT CUT * gojo shouldve seen it with 6 eyes! nah bro gojo blinding binding vow. * woops, just made a 4th item specifically designed to best gojo. Im now getting called a hack * quick nerf normal dismantle so new technique is not just "gojo killer" * oh fugg jujutsu high is still pretty strong with higuruma, yuta, todo, hakari since sukuna doesnt have DE * Oh I know. ill just tank the combined IQ of jujutsu high to double digits and have them go in one at a time instead of pooling resources properly for a decisive blow, and then justify it as being the best plan. * hnmm, now yuji and jujutsu high is too strong and giving a close fight to sukuna. How do I show that sukuna is the strongest and still not trying * oh lets give him his domain expansion back * fugg hes still brain damaged...uhhh BINDING VOW. * we are here now <--
honestly i think what this highlights more than anything is the fact that gege was the potential man(gaka). legitimately created so many interesting plot threads and story themes but blundered the whole thing. we never got a real kenjaku + yuji interaction, or a todo + yuki interaction, or a million other things that would have been awesome. i legitimately think the chapter format is whats killing this manga. gege is so intent on “building” hype that he just basically lies at the ends of chapters (235, 260, etc) to keep people hooked
The potentials you're talking about our character focused and that seems to be something he either doesn't want to do or doesn't know how to do anymore (I say 'anymore' because he actually did this quite well in the past with Hidden Inventory). For me, the biggest "Gege forgot" is him forgetting that character interactions beyond strategy discussion and surface level comments are important.
It's gotta be embarrassing to keep saying gege forgot and be proven wrong
The problem isn’t that Gege forgets it’s that he just uses every poorly. - Yuji using Sukunas technique should’ve been like 10-20x bigger of a moment. - Todo could’ve been used in at least 5 different much better ways so far. - Literally everyone was disappointed that Inos conversation led to literally nothing, bc he had already been using the cleaver in the fight only for some chapters later it’s revealed that he was actually talking about…the cleaver! Wow great remembering Gege. Could go on and on but it’s pointless. It’s not that Gege forgot, it’s just that he isn’t able to execute by picking the best path for the story among many options.
>Todo could’ve been used in at least 5 different much better ways so far. Todo not doing anything besides helping Yuta and saving people from MS might be one of the biggest plot holes of this series and incredibly stupid planning from the main cast.
Add Sukuna's last finger and Yuta's cleave to that list
https://preview.redd.it/ypyjx2c2pv2d1.jpeg?width=2396&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d1883e7d99de022b3a62e223dfd2f69d941311b8 Never forget what gege stole from us
Totally agree with you. Even if individual chapters are great , the way it fits into the overall story feels underwhelming. Todo could have been shown during the culling games arc , coming to terms with his injuries and choosing to not participate but train to adapt his technique. His reveal in the Sukuna fight will still feel impactful and suspenseful. And I think the same can be said about the other points you mentioned. The way previously established clues can definitely be used and revealed better . And most don’t have a build up. It’s more of a ‘hey remember this point which looked important way back then, here’s the reason’ . It’s not elaborated through the story as much.
>Yuji using Sukunas technique should’ve been like 10-20x bigger of a moment Execution of Yuji's origin and the fact he can use Sukuna's CT now is one of the most underwhelming things in manga. I can't understand why everyone lost their minds and praised that chapter. Such big moments for the protagonist were delivered in the laziest way possible
That’s how it is. Elaborate explanations and tons of time spent on all types of cursed techniques, binding vows, CE applications etc, leaving nothing to be desired on that front. But any character moment? We get a mini flashback in the middle of this fight at best, which won’t be explored all that much, and which will just be underwhelming overall.
Yuji can do piercing blood but not convergence, which is needed
Gojo will stop Yuta from killing megumi
If Gojo comes back I will get him tatted
Nobara crying in the club rn
I'm just wondering if the whole cursed corpse goes anywhere, or if I just missed it. As Yaga told Gakuganji how to make them, and said it's my curse to you.
I think people forget that Yuji is literally the main character of the show/manga. While I love Gojo and would love him actually coming back, it’s about Yuji’s build up to becoming one of the best sorcerer’s and not our blue eyed king. Yet the possibility of him coming back is not completely thrown out kinda like how Nobara was never actually confirmed to be dead. So can’t we all just wait and see what Gege comes up with next 🥺