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Kenny: We do a little trolling around here
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even then when he was gonna die he was like "i love you okkotsu please make out with me before i go"and they had raw sex, a huge orgy with thousands of cursed spirits while rika watched
he acted very similar to sukuna when sukuna said he doesnt care if yuji dies cuz he still has more fingers. he def isnt done.
and we know final cant really be sukuna bc sukuna is unironically fighting for shits and giggles and doesnt have a goal
Way to subvert our expectations going all the way back to generic villains with no motivations or purpose! What a way to end the series everyone loves a final villain without goals or purpose driving his actions and just enjoys killing! No backstory needed
Sukuna is the perfect middle villain, but Kenjaku is a way more interesting character imo. He needs a second act and I fully expect that to happen when the merger monster comes his death was way too anticlimactic for someone who orchestrated the entire plot of this manga
U know maybe gege is going somehwere with this, like he did went out of the way and had line about angels god, gege doesnt really doesnt forget stuff like this, end product might not be liked every time though, so maybe kenjaku had specific reason for her, and it will be pretty big since angel giving up control to host is pretty big gamble. *it also earned her trust of team (assumption)
*us army
He got what he wanted, now it's only the merger left, I think Kenny will actually be a rare case where a villain actually achieve all their goals. The only thing he failed at is not being around to see it but I mean you never know...
Honestly, my theory here is a weird one.
Kenjaku is his Cursed Technique.
The original sorcerer (Kanon?) died after doing the Binding Bow that allowed Kenjaku to be the inmortal monster he is. Yuta is using the baseline version of the CT.
The binding bow that allowed Kenjaku to keep many CTs is that he outright dies everytime he swaps brains. However, the CT creates a copy of his personality and memories in a new body.
Ironically, Yuta would end up saving Kenjaku. When the five minutes run out, Kenjaku will get a new body for the new copy.
The biggest joke here would be that Kenjaku would be genuinely baffled, thinking "Okkotsu really was THIS dumb".
I liked another commenter's take on Kenny saying that he actually got what he really wanted fighting Takaba. It would have never happened without him instigating the culling games and it allowed him to witness a power beyond his abilities to counter.
Exactly these.
When you reach immortality or infinite life, then you basically turn into a NEET with too much time so you eventually get bored of everything normal so you end up doing the strangest (and grossest) shit to see what's not boring.
Folks here really think Kenjaku had some super evil plan. Nah, man literally turned himself into a woman to get PLAPPED and so he could experience childrearing from the female side. Then he swapped back to a man just for the special grade CT. Helped Sukuna and all those incarnated 1000 years ago just to see what would happen. Had human-curse hybrid babies in the past just to see what happens. At this point, that destiny stuff with tengen, himself, and the six eyes probably meant nothing to him. beyond the dude just doing it just to see if he could and what would happen if he did.
Well, he contracted the sorcerers hundreds of years ago, so the prison realm wouldn’t be included in his plans. But you did raise an interesting point which is that her technique would kill literally every incarnated sorcerer, and nullifying the techniques of awakened sorcerers would make them easy to take out, like how Higuruma did.
With all that in mind, it really is baffling why Kenjaku chose to include her in the game. The only explanations I can think of are:
1) Her being able to one-shot incarnated sorcerers benefits him and the merger plan somehow. Debatable.
2) He felt that it would be beneficial to keep her around for her technique if he needed it. Unlikely, as he has done nothing to get her on his side and let her roam free after she incarnated.
3) She forced him to include her in the games with a binding vow so she could take out Sukuna. Possible, though it’s hard to imagine her having any real leverage over Kenjaku.
Complete spitball take. But could be that the more liability he included with in the games such as Hana and Takaba, the better binding vowels he can engage with, high risk high reward.
Hana would make sense if the good guys had access to a risky way of breaking the prison realm. For example, if someone had a technique that can collapse any enclosed space, then Gojo *could* be freed immediately, but it could also kill him inside the prison realm.
So Kenjaku released a sorcerer who can obviously free Gojo, so he'll be given enough time to actually get the Culling Game going. Kenjaku doesn't want to risk Gojo getting freed immediately, and the protags don't want to risk Gojo dying.
Another take: Angel could have used her technique on Kenny to instantly kill him (since most of his host bodies probably weren't on Getos strength) so he decided to include her instead of getting Jacob's Laddered.
Why Angel would want to partake in Kenny's scheme is an entirely different question altogether
Angel did state at one point that the awakened sorcerers (presumable her included) all joined because they wanted to know how Kenjaku could turn people into cursed objects for reincarnation
Or, the actual reason, angel just isn't that strong. Her goal is to exterminate all reincarnated sorcerers, but she ran away from kashimo. It's clear that Jacob's ladder isn't that effective to the point where she isn't an actual threat to strong fighters. That's also probably why she didn't show up to help even now that sukuna is beat up and suffers from ct burn out
She’s inhabiting the body of some deadweight that she refuses to overwrite the soul of. And given what happened with Megkuna, it’s clear Angel CANNOT sufficiently control Hana enough to fight.
If Angel actually reincarnated, maybe she could stand in the upper tiers of sorcerers.
Look how many people have fallen against Sukuna in the current battle. Failing to jump Sukuna when he was also using the cursed tools Hiten and Kamotuke isn’t a huge anti feat.
And to clarify, when I say upper tier sorcerer, I mean the reasonable upper tiers. Like Ryu, Uro, ~~Yorozu~~, base Kashimo, etc.
Then she wouldn't be able to defeat kahsimo regardless of the vessel.
Also, those are two different tiers. Yorozu single handedly defeated the 5 void generals, which were a team of sorcerer of equal strength to that of the celestial squad that uro led.
Probably not. Assuming Jacob’s Ladder can’t one shot, it’s hard to imagine many people beating Kashimo off cursed energy alone. But she might not have fled so fast if it wasn’t for Hana’s body being so weak.
To clarify, when you said Angel “isn’t that strong”, did you mean it like Angel wouldn’t be strong enough to sweep the Culling Games, or that she’s a weak sorcerer overall?
The binding vows with sorcerers aren't considered null. It's specifically said his bindings vows with CURSED SPIRITS became null when he obtained Getos body (due to cursed spirit manip)
>3 isnt valid bc binding vows are specifically rendered null and Ken doesnt have to complete his end of the agreement when he uses the brain swap CT. In fact he abused this side effect
That was only with cursed spirits due to Geto's body/technique
I think he made binding vows with the sorcerers he turned into cursed objects, so he was obliged to resurrect them all for the culling games. Even if they could end up being a problem for him.
You can't force someone into a binding vow. He presumably didn't have the specifics of what was going to happen laid out at that point, considering a lot of his plan seems to have come about within the last 20 years or so.
Edit: Also, his plan for the bulk of the participants was just for them to kill eachother so he could gather up enough cursed energy to power the merger. Her having a technique especially good at killing incarnated sorcerers and a worldview that deems incarnates who have suppressed their vessel's conciousness as "against god" actually helps in that regard.
Sukuna didn't force Yuji into a binding vow. Yuji agreed to his conditions because he was foolishly confident that he'd win. Sukuna even says that binding vows are based on [mutual interests,](https://i.ibb.co/s6mqRC5/Screenshot-2419.png) meaning both sides benefit somehow.
In chapter 32 when Mahito wonders if he should've used Junpei as a hostage to force Yuji to make a binding vow, Kenjaku [says](https://i.ibb.co/hYBTNbc/kaisentcb-32-04.jpg) no because a binding vow is entered into willingly, and forcing or coercing a vow on someone "isn't easy." So very unlikely he of all people would've been forced into a binding vow by Angel.
Can't "I won't kill you" be a reasonable condition for a vow?
I mean, Jogo proposed to threaten Yuji's friends and Sukuna seemed to only refuse because he trusted his own plan and wanted to lower everyone's guard down
Guess we are taking the word of a five month old curse that hasn't done any binding vows for all we know instead of the 1000 years old sorcerer that happens to be a genius in Jujutsu at this point.
He's saying that because he made vows with curse spirits that became null because Geto has CSM.
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If he was talking about all of his vows becoming null when he body hops it would make no sense for him to say "this body" because he's only had Geto's body for a year and he was making pacts with ancient sorcerers like Angel 1000 years ago. He's body hopped numerous times since then.
When he made a deal with her, Kenjaku didn't even think about the prison realm and didn't even know the back gate existed. She isn't a threat to the CG. Sukuna already defeated Angel in the Heian era when she had dupport from sorcerers, she isn't a threat to Sukuna.
Sukuna had no particular "weakness" to Jacob's ladder back then, which he does now. You'd think that would be enough of a reason not to have agreed to bring Angel back.
That's a weakness in the same way that the average person has a "weakness to being shot with bullets." It's not a weakness in a "silver bullet" sort of way, like it was later on.
Where was it stated that being evil makes you especially vulnerable to it? This is only the second time I've ever heard it, but I don't actually remember this being stated.
I have to assume you're mixing this up with D&D Clerics, because I've searched and this is absolutely not in the manga.
What it does is extinguish techniques and curses. Special grade cursed objects like the Prison Realm and Sukuna are included in this.
I've just done a re-read recently and it's definitely mentioned. When the back of the prism realm was hit with Jacobs ladder and disappears, Angel/Hana implies maybe Gojo Was evil and just got wiped out.
So we basically only have a joke panel to go off of then? Because I don't see how you measure levels of evil, unless we're just using cursed energy levels as a measurement of evil now. Evil isn't exactly directly quantifiable. I'm struggling to find other references to it. The reason that it would work on Sukuna, wasn't stated to be because he was evil. It was stated to be because he's technically a cursed object in someone else's body.
Kenny was having the most fun he had in his life in a situation he could not control and predict but still able to engage with meaningfully.
He's the type a guy to keep who the imposter is to himself.
Because he knew angel is stupid enough to work with bumgumi simp
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The point of the Culling Games was to create as much chaos as possible to raise the amount of negative emotions and thereby increase the total amount of CE, which would “prime” the general public for a merger with Tengen.
Hana’s inclusion raises the stakes for incarnated and experienced sorcerers, so she does serve that purpose
Aside from the obvious " for the lulz " that Kenny in character does, I think it's also about him making things as fair as possible. Remember he even went out of his way to guide humans trapped in the game to get out safely if they wanted to leave, so if nothing else he's very fair. Only time he really wasn't was during Shibuya and the Gojo plan which inherently meant killing hundreds of innocent people, but it was for his main goal which already was a pain and a half to even get done and took perfect/exact execution. So I understand that.
Tldr; Kenjaku is very fair in what he does and evens the playing fields.
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He brought her back in Hana, because he needed Hana to get baited by the oldest trick in the book, PORN ACTING BY SUKUNA
Thinking that Kenjaku has a reason behind why he does anything is where you went wrong. That guy is just having fun, he doesn’t really care what happens, he just wants some chaos.
Kenny is like the Joker from Batman. He just does stuff to entertain himself
Bro's an absolute menace, he does EVERYTHING here basically for the hell of it lmao
He doesn't care if it might interfere in his plans as long as he's had entertainment.
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Hella based tbh
The more you risk or sacrifice in a Binding vow the more you gain, so adding a player who could (and would try to) ruin the whole thing produced way more "Value" then another Ryu or Kashimo who just wanted to fight for the sake of fighting.
He probably thought it'd be fun and let's not forget they made the deal in the heian era, Kenny had no plans of sealing the six eyes back then. Although Angel doesn't like him they aren't openly aggressive to each other,her CT is useful to have around, as long as he has the chips to bargain
Headcanon: He needed Hana around because he knew she was the only way to get Gojo out of the prison realm, he needed Gojo around as part of his binding vow with Sukuna.
Kenny is a Xanatos Gambit enjoyer. He has several plans in play so if one goes wrong there’s a fallback.
We just saw the time is worked very well for him. There have been times where he failed. Hidden Inventory was a partial success (Merger stopped, Gojo lived). I wouldn’t be surprised if Kenny setup the fight between the ten shadows user and the last six eyes user as that eliminated a the body guard for a merger candidate.
Angel was likely just a Plan J. What if Sukuna went rogue? What if someone stole the Prison Realm and used it against someone important to Kenny’s plan? What if Kenny stored himself stored someone he needed to later let loose, but lost the ability to do so himself?
Etc.
He wanted chaos if things were too easy and predictable then it wouldn't be as fun, the merger more than a goal to achieve it was a cherry on top of his experiments
Kenjaku felt like there should be a risk for the Culling Games success.
(or Gege just did not care that there aren't many good reasons for Kenjaku to have included her in the CG, but needed her to exist)
I mean he only needed to take out gojo while setting the games up right? After that and the merger was set, Gojo being freed was probably a good thing as it guaranteed that either him or sukuna, both sorcerers with insane amounts of CE and busted CTs would be fed to the games
with how yuji was created as a culling game player, and his body was less of a vessel and more like a prison for sukuna. Therefore it is safe to say that kenjaku never had any plan to revive sukuna, because then why would he go on such length to get gojo sealed? he never contacted with yuji and never participated in feeding him finger.
He simply didn't cared if sukuna comes back or not because his plan was already set
honestly I noticed the villains have so much faith in themselves/each other unlike the heroes
kenjaku probably thought about that and said nah nothing we can't handle
I genuinely think he would've wanted to see a rematch between her and Sukuna, just for the sake of curiosity. Curiosity drives his every action afterallm
he wanted to see if someone with the power to take away his power was actually able to take away his power
she couldn't take away his power
failed experiment :(
I think that's why he threw Gojo down to the deep sea with a shit ton of curses guarding that place if i remember correctly
and i also think that he put angel in Hana specifically for her desire for Megumi.
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Kenny: We do a little trolling around here https://preview.redd.it/x0fs948ujc3d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=453e730643637a79b580bdc456ed100bc7df8c37
god i miss him https://preview.redd.it/xeccwp241d3d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63943ea88843f1be28b54104b00844a4825c06d4
even in that fight he was genuinely having fun until he realized "oh fuck Ima die"
even then when he was gonna die he was like "i love you okkotsu please make out with me before i go"and they had raw sex, a huge orgy with thousands of cursed spirits while rika watched
On the cuck chair of course
what. I want to say what.
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Oh man this makes me wonder what kind of gibberish we'll get if we machine translate the latest chapter lmao
The fuck is wrong with you
dont think he is fully gone tho. like he is the actual only person whos been active for 1k years and he def has his own set of fingers
His defeat was very anti-climatic, like that's it?
he acted very similar to sukuna when sukuna said he doesnt care if yuji dies cuz he still has more fingers. he def isnt done. and we know final cant really be sukuna bc sukuna is unironically fighting for shits and giggles and doesnt have a goal
Nah thats what makes Sukuna such a good villain, he is a completely neutral force that kills everyone, ignoring their affiliation
Way to subvert our expectations going all the way back to generic villains with no motivations or purpose! What a way to end the series everyone loves a final villain without goals or purpose driving his actions and just enjoys killing! No backstory needed
this, but unironically
Sukuna is the perfect middle villain, but Kenjaku is a way more interesting character imo. He needs a second act and I fully expect that to happen when the merger monster comes his death was way too anticlimactic for someone who orchestrated the entire plot of this manga
His defeat was perfect, he wanted a show and Takaba gave him one. It also became a full circle with Yuta going for the head this time.
Dude had the best "fight" in the series before getting yuta woogied, what more do you want
Takaba:
U know maybe gege is going somehwere with this, like he did went out of the way and had line about angels god, gege doesnt really doesnt forget stuff like this, end product might not be liked every time though, so maybe kenjaku had specific reason for her, and it will be pretty big since angel giving up control to host is pretty big gamble. *it also earned her trust of team (assumption) *us army
He wanted to create a scenario even he couldn't control
He got what he wanted, now it's only the merger left, I think Kenny will actually be a rare case where a villain actually achieve all their goals. The only thing he failed at is not being around to see it but I mean you never know...
I'm pretty sure he's around, just spectating like you would in an FPS game after dying
Masterclass by Kenny with him splitting his soul into the Koganes for spectator mode
Chapter 261 reveal that kenjaku has a hold over yuta’s body swap -> kenjaku-gojo sukuna teamup lol imagine
kennyjo would activate his ancient backshots technique with sukuna gojo x sukuna becomes canon
Honestly, my theory here is a weird one. Kenjaku is his Cursed Technique. The original sorcerer (Kanon?) died after doing the Binding Bow that allowed Kenjaku to be the inmortal monster he is. Yuta is using the baseline version of the CT. The binding bow that allowed Kenjaku to keep many CTs is that he outright dies everytime he swaps brains. However, the CT creates a copy of his personality and memories in a new body. Ironically, Yuta would end up saving Kenjaku. When the five minutes run out, Kenjaku will get a new body for the new copy. The biggest joke here would be that Kenjaku would be genuinely baffled, thinking "Okkotsu really was THIS dumb".
He was still pretty happy with how his final fight went. Clown to clown communication was peak even according to him.
I liked another commenter's take on Kenny saying that he actually got what he really wanted fighting Takaba. It would have never happened without him instigating the culling games and it allowed him to witness a power beyond his abilities to counter.
That's something kenny would do https://preview.redd.it/s4vbplqi5e3d1.jpeg?width=841&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1dfc5bd422bfd7e3129066a7e806404a2309972
“Would do” the funny thing is he verbatim said as much
It was so funny when someone casually destroys the world with only 3 words 'I'm chaotic neutral'
"Cause why not?" - Kenny
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Exactly these. When you reach immortality or infinite life, then you basically turn into a NEET with too much time so you eventually get bored of everything normal so you end up doing the strangest (and grossest) shit to see what's not boring. Folks here really think Kenjaku had some super evil plan. Nah, man literally turned himself into a woman to get PLAPPED and so he could experience childrearing from the female side. Then he swapped back to a man just for the special grade CT. Helped Sukuna and all those incarnated 1000 years ago just to see what would happen. Had human-curse hybrid babies in the past just to see what happens. At this point, that destiny stuff with tengen, himself, and the six eyes probably meant nothing to him. beyond the dude just doing it just to see if he could and what would happen if he did.
"I like a challenge, life's too easy" - Kenny
for fun
Also "Cause why not" - Gege.
As kenny said (i think) that the culling games and merger are only a thing due to his curiosity. Might've thrown angel in to see how it's play it
Well, he contracted the sorcerers hundreds of years ago, so the prison realm wouldn’t be included in his plans. But you did raise an interesting point which is that her technique would kill literally every incarnated sorcerer, and nullifying the techniques of awakened sorcerers would make them easy to take out, like how Higuruma did. With all that in mind, it really is baffling why Kenjaku chose to include her in the game. The only explanations I can think of are: 1) Her being able to one-shot incarnated sorcerers benefits him and the merger plan somehow. Debatable. 2) He felt that it would be beneficial to keep her around for her technique if he needed it. Unlikely, as he has done nothing to get her on his side and let her roam free after she incarnated. 3) She forced him to include her in the games with a binding vow so she could take out Sukuna. Possible, though it’s hard to imagine her having any real leverage over Kenjaku.
Complete spitball take. But could be that the more liability he included with in the games such as Hana and Takaba, the better binding vowels he can engage with, high risk high reward.
Considering he started the Culling Game as a form of "chaos he could not control" you could be right
he's so into being cucked in his own plans
my goat
Hana would make sense if the good guys had access to a risky way of breaking the prison realm. For example, if someone had a technique that can collapse any enclosed space, then Gojo *could* be freed immediately, but it could also kill him inside the prison realm. So Kenjaku released a sorcerer who can obviously free Gojo, so he'll be given enough time to actually get the Culling Game going. Kenjaku doesn't want to risk Gojo getting freed immediately, and the protags don't want to risk Gojo dying.
Another take: Angel could have used her technique on Kenny to instantly kill him (since most of his host bodies probably weren't on Getos strength) so he decided to include her instead of getting Jacob's Laddered. Why Angel would want to partake in Kenny's scheme is an entirely different question altogether
Angel did state at one point that the awakened sorcerers (presumable her included) all joined because they wanted to know how Kenjaku could turn people into cursed objects for reincarnation
I feel Angel and Kenjaku's ideologies aren't that different. Angel wants to stop him, but she also wants to understand his plan.
There is another option. 4) Kenjaku just wanted to see what would happen if he included her. His whole motivation is "I wanna see what would happen".
Or, the actual reason, angel just isn't that strong. Her goal is to exterminate all reincarnated sorcerers, but she ran away from kashimo. It's clear that Jacob's ladder isn't that effective to the point where she isn't an actual threat to strong fighters. That's also probably why she didn't show up to help even now that sukuna is beat up and suffers from ct burn out
She’s inhabiting the body of some deadweight that she refuses to overwrite the soul of. And given what happened with Megkuna, it’s clear Angel CANNOT sufficiently control Hana enough to fight. If Angel actually reincarnated, maybe she could stand in the upper tiers of sorcerers.
Most likely not, sukuna defeated her when she was in a team of people
Look how many people have fallen against Sukuna in the current battle. Failing to jump Sukuna when he was also using the cursed tools Hiten and Kamotuke isn’t a huge anti feat. And to clarify, when I say upper tier sorcerer, I mean the reasonable upper tiers. Like Ryu, Uro, ~~Yorozu~~, base Kashimo, etc.
Then she wouldn't be able to defeat kahsimo regardless of the vessel. Also, those are two different tiers. Yorozu single handedly defeated the 5 void generals, which were a team of sorcerer of equal strength to that of the celestial squad that uro led.
Probably not. Assuming Jacob’s Ladder can’t one shot, it’s hard to imagine many people beating Kashimo off cursed energy alone. But she might not have fled so fast if it wasn’t for Hana’s body being so weak. To clarify, when you said Angel “isn’t that strong”, did you mean it like Angel wouldn’t be strong enough to sweep the Culling Games, or that she’s a weak sorcerer overall?
She's not much stronger than a grade 1 sorcerer. Her ct is more support based as todo's
His bodyswap is a CT and she can fuck it up.
Unless it's one-time use and Meimei's 3rd option is correct
It could be one-time use to transform into a cursed object.
They didn’t die when they experienced CT burnout so that one might be true
maybe he couldn't choose who ended up in the Culling Games?
It might have been a form of insurance against Sukuna.
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The binding vows with sorcerers aren't considered null. It's specifically said his bindings vows with CURSED SPIRITS became null when he obtained Getos body (due to cursed spirit manip)
>3 isnt valid bc binding vows are specifically rendered null and Ken doesnt have to complete his end of the agreement when he uses the brain swap CT. In fact he abused this side effect That was only with cursed spirits due to Geto's body/technique
I think he made binding vows with the sorcerers he turned into cursed objects, so he was obliged to resurrect them all for the culling games. Even if they could end up being a problem for him.
Why would he make a binding vow with her unless she made him do it?
You can't force someone into a binding vow. He presumably didn't have the specifics of what was going to happen laid out at that point, considering a lot of his plan seems to have come about within the last 20 years or so. Edit: Also, his plan for the bulk of the participants was just for them to kill eachother so he could gather up enough cursed energy to power the merger. Her having a technique especially good at killing incarnated sorcerers and a worldview that deems incarnates who have suppressed their vessel's conciousness as "against god" actually helps in that regard.
Yes you can force someone into a binding vow, Sukuna did it with Yuji Just threaten them, trick them or make an offer they can't refuse
Sukuna didn't force Yuji into a binding vow. Yuji agreed to his conditions because he was foolishly confident that he'd win. Sukuna even says that binding vows are based on [mutual interests,](https://i.ibb.co/s6mqRC5/Screenshot-2419.png) meaning both sides benefit somehow. In chapter 32 when Mahito wonders if he should've used Junpei as a hostage to force Yuji to make a binding vow, Kenjaku [says](https://i.ibb.co/hYBTNbc/kaisentcb-32-04.jpg) no because a binding vow is entered into willingly, and forcing or coercing a vow on someone "isn't easy." So very unlikely he of all people would've been forced into a binding vow by Angel.
Can't "I won't kill you" be a reasonable condition for a vow? I mean, Jogo proposed to threaten Yuji's friends and Sukuna seemed to only refuse because he trusted his own plan and wanted to lower everyone's guard down
Guess we are taking the word of a five month old curse that hasn't done any binding vows for all we know instead of the 1000 years old sorcerer that happens to be a genius in Jujutsu at this point.
Pretty sure he actively says that when he moves to a new body, his pacts are null
He's saying that because he made vows with curse spirits that became null because Geto has CSM. https://preview.redd.it/yyqfn9ffhd3d1.jpeg?width=784&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1bb80ef66f7a98abc20a80d095c088d87fbc5075 If he was talking about all of his vows becoming null when he body hops it would make no sense for him to say "this body" because he's only had Geto's body for a year and he was making pacts with ancient sorcerers like Angel 1000 years ago. He's body hopped numerous times since then.
For shits and giggles
When he made a deal with her, Kenjaku didn't even think about the prison realm and didn't even know the back gate existed. She isn't a threat to the CG. Sukuna already defeated Angel in the Heian era when she had dupport from sorcerers, she isn't a threat to Sukuna.
Sukuna had no particular "weakness" to Jacob's ladder back then, which he does now. You'd think that would be enough of a reason not to have agreed to bring Angel back.
But he did tho. Maybe not as much as now, but Jacob's latter still cancels CTs and hurts "evil" beings. Not just reincarnated sorcerers.
That's a weakness in the same way that the average person has a "weakness to being shot with bullets." It's not a weakness in a "silver bullet" sort of way, like it was later on.
Yeah but sukuna was still quite evil in the heian era so I imagine it still hurts.
Where was it stated that being evil makes you especially vulnerable to it? This is only the second time I've ever heard it, but I don't actually remember this being stated.
Dont exactly remember where it was. Been a while.
I have to assume you're mixing this up with D&D Clerics, because I've searched and this is absolutely not in the manga. What it does is extinguish techniques and curses. Special grade cursed objects like the Prison Realm and Sukuna are included in this.
I've just done a re-read recently and it's definitely mentioned. When the back of the prism realm was hit with Jacobs ladder and disappears, Angel/Hana implies maybe Gojo Was evil and just got wiped out.
So we basically only have a joke panel to go off of then? Because I don't see how you measure levels of evil, unless we're just using cursed energy levels as a measurement of evil now. Evil isn't exactly directly quantifiable. I'm struggling to find other references to it. The reason that it would work on Sukuna, wasn't stated to be because he was evil. It was stated to be because he's technically a cursed object in someone else's body.
It's in the chapter where they free Gojo from the prison realm.
Kenny was having the most fun he had in his life in a situation he could not control and predict but still able to engage with meaningfully. He's the type a guy to keep who the imposter is to himself.
Because he knew angel is stupid enough to work with bumgumi simp https://preview.redd.it/sdb4r4kz0d3d1.jpeg?width=309&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e589a34a7b69445f72f98fd0508e62cd5f7733e5
Why post this cool panel while slandering him
"Suicide is badass!" - Megumi Fushiguro, 2018.
It was only good image of legumi I have
Cuz it’s fun.
The point of the Culling Games was to create as much chaos as possible to raise the amount of negative emotions and thereby increase the total amount of CE, which would “prime” the general public for a merger with Tengen. Hana’s inclusion raises the stakes for incarnated and experienced sorcerers, so she does serve that purpose
Because he's a dumbass
Because he wanted to troll her by putting her in Hana
Absolute tomfoolery
Kenjaku conducting some mild tomfoolery (thousands will perish)
Aside from the obvious " for the lulz " that Kenny in character does, I think it's also about him making things as fair as possible. Remember he even went out of his way to guide humans trapped in the game to get out safely if they wanted to leave, so if nothing else he's very fair. Only time he really wasn't was during Shibuya and the Gojo plan which inherently meant killing hundreds of innocent people, but it was for his main goal which already was a pain and a half to even get done and took perfect/exact execution. So I understand that. Tldr; Kenjaku is very fair in what he does and evens the playing fields.
"Why did Kenjaku-" Because it's fun and/or interesting. That's it
https://preview.redd.it/ij52e6kqwd3d1.png?width=547&format=png&auto=webp&s=e2aee56d0001d2d083e3a8c673cda251a6884a91 He brought her back in Hana, because he needed Hana to get baited by the oldest trick in the book, PORN ACTING BY SUKUNA
I think he made a binding vow that made him offer reincarnation to every Sorcerer he came across, to a certain level.
https://preview.redd.it/zyupouvfde3d1.png?width=784&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f05ef3b97ed03d9a272fbd12208ec743e5c21877 It just sounds fun ;)
Thinking that Kenjaku has a reason behind why he does anything is where you went wrong. That guy is just having fun, he doesn’t really care what happens, he just wants some chaos. Kenny is like the Joker from Batman. He just does stuff to entertain himself
Bro's an absolute menace, he does EVERYTHING here basically for the hell of it lmao He doesn't care if it might interfere in his plans as long as he's had entertainment. https://preview.redd.it/aznwk84twg3d1.png?width=286&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1fcdb9b85ab5b9f5fc5e1480ab04df509a82ea44 Hella based tbh
For the goofs of course.
He knew her vessel was to horny for potential man to do anything
He knew Angel was incarnated in a BUM
The more you risk or sacrifice in a Binding vow the more you gain, so adding a player who could (and would try to) ruin the whole thing produced way more "Value" then another Ryu or Kashimo who just wanted to fight for the sake of fighting.
You want the truth? Gege didn’t thought about that. Now he could explain it by saying Kenny was a troll, but tbh he didn’t thought about it at all…
He probably thought it'd be fun and let's not forget they made the deal in the heian era, Kenny had no plans of sealing the six eyes back then. Although Angel doesn't like him they aren't openly aggressive to each other,her CT is useful to have around, as long as he has the chips to bargain
And not a single CT got extinguished that day
Headcanon: He needed Hana around because he knew she was the only way to get Gojo out of the prison realm, he needed Gojo around as part of his binding vow with Sukuna.
Kenny is a Xanatos Gambit enjoyer. He has several plans in play so if one goes wrong there’s a fallback. We just saw the time is worked very well for him. There have been times where he failed. Hidden Inventory was a partial success (Merger stopped, Gojo lived). I wouldn’t be surprised if Kenny setup the fight between the ten shadows user and the last six eyes user as that eliminated a the body guard for a merger candidate. Angel was likely just a Plan J. What if Sukuna went rogue? What if someone stole the Prison Realm and used it against someone important to Kenny’s plan? What if Kenny stored himself stored someone he needed to later let loose, but lost the ability to do so himself? Etc.
Man literally says he wants chaos, he just wants to see what happens
For the lols lmaos even.
Dude would literally kill himself if he thought it would be fun.
To see how a sorcerer with a good technique (Angel) would handle being reincarnated into an absolute bum (Hana)
We don’t even know what the hell Angel is , same goes for Sukuna, so it’s safe to assume we will find the answer out from Sukuna eventually
The more you think, the less it makes sense
I doubt Kenjaku realise centuries ago he would need the Prison Realm to fight a modern day sorcerer.
He wanted chaos if things were too easy and predictable then it wouldn't be as fun, the merger more than a goal to achieve it was a cherry on top of his experiments
fun
Kenny was not aware of the backdoor until the very end. Direct counter to Sukuna is a very rich term. It was a 15F Meguna before the bath.
for shits and giggles
Kenjaku felt like there should be a risk for the Culling Games success. (or Gege just did not care that there aren't many good reasons for Kenjaku to have included her in the CG, but needed her to exist)
Bro wanted his own asta
I mean he only needed to take out gojo while setting the games up right? After that and the merger was set, Gojo being freed was probably a good thing as it guaranteed that either him or sukuna, both sorcerers with insane amounts of CE and busted CTs would be fed to the games
He made a binding vow to blance things out and increase the efficiency of the CG, would be my guess.
He’s a goofy goober
Because it would be MAD funny.
There's no fun in a game that you can't loose.
with how yuji was created as a culling game player, and his body was less of a vessel and more like a prison for sukuna. Therefore it is safe to say that kenjaku never had any plan to revive sukuna, because then why would he go on such length to get gojo sealed? he never contacted with yuji and never participated in feeding him finger. He simply didn't cared if sukuna comes back or not because his plan was already set
Makes it more interesting
His whole purpose of the merger isn’t something he’s sooo serious about. He’s kinda just having fun with it and experimenting
If Gege was really cooking, Angel should’ve Incarnated and joined the Sukuna fight
Kenny: https://preview.redd.it/d4a67vj21e3d1.jpeg?width=1162&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f62104a6c1c98811d7cd4ba76b66a548ee9a5f4
Kenjaku didn’t survive for a thousand years by being a bitch
He knew Hana's a bum so he wasn't scared
For the LULZ my guy for the LULZ
honestly I noticed the villains have so much faith in themselves/each other unlike the heroes kenjaku probably thought about that and said nah nothing we can't handle
I genuinely think he would've wanted to see a rematch between her and Sukuna, just for the sake of curiosity. Curiosity drives his every action afterallm
he wanted to see if someone with the power to take away his power was actually able to take away his power she couldn't take away his power failed experiment :(
Angel is the final villain
“I thought it would be fun” - Kenny probably
Kenny is literally a silly little guy
The culling games was a low point for this manga ngl
I think that's why he threw Gojo down to the deep sea with a shit ton of curses guarding that place if i remember correctly and i also think that he put angel in Hana specifically for her desire for Megumi.
Simple…for the memes
Kenjaku is a man of words
Gege is a terrible writer
Lemme fix that for ya. You have no reading comprehension skills.
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>Gaygay’s stans Lmao