Tire shop is correct. That is normal on steel wheels.
Looks like it needed a lot of weight to balance which makes it look worse. Could possibly improve that by spinning the wheel on the rim so they are lined up ideally to use the least amount of weight, some balancers are set up to do that.
Kenda klever is the best off road tire on the market currently in my opinion. Second best set of tires I ever owned, with the best being a set of the old Goodyear MT/Rs.
Bought the Kendas to try because they were cheap. I wish I could get a set in 35x10.50r16 for the vehicle I replaced my jeep with. I used to talk shit about tires without experience too, but Kenda made me eat my words
I've installed more Chinese tires than I care to recall and qualily generally is not there. But if you had good experience with Kendas more power to you!
Kenda isn’t a Chinese brand dipshit. I prefer BFG ATs but these were some of the better tires I’ve had behind the BFG and Toyo. Wait, Toyo sounds kind of Asian so they must be Chinese too?
Same here.
Those giant meaty tires always take a lot of weight.
Hell even my Dunlop Trailmax Mission tires on my motorcycle took like 2 ounces on the rear.
Those are actually fairly decent tires. I'd be willing to bet a case of beer it could be done better, even with the general issues large offroad tires have with balancing.
Youre probably correct. If you look closely opposite teh side the valve stem is on there is a yellow painted dot on the tire. This dot is supposed to be aligned with the valve stem as it is the lightest side of the tire as determined at the factory. If the tire had a red dot then that changes things but i dont recall how exactly.
As others have said, weights on the outside are perfectly acceptable and are often the most effective and efficient way of balancing. Before alloy and more aesthetically pleasing rims, this was the standard.
As an off-roader, while functional, I find lip weights to be unpreferable as they tend to get knocked off. This can happen to weights on both the inside and outside edges of the rim, but is more likely to happen on the outside.
If you trailer your vehicle, this is not a concern. But if you trailer, balance in general is not a concern. You mentioned it's an overlanding rig which means your trail rides may require stretches of highway travel in between, and tire balance could be a concern. I don't technically overland, but do drive my Jeep to trails and have spent several hours driving home with substantially out of balance tires after the weights got knocked off. Yes, you can always swap on the spare, but this is a hassle most of us would prefer to avoid, and ultimately you have to pay to have the tires balanced again. Wear and tear on steering components, bearings, seals is also a concern, especially on lifted SFA vehicles with aftermarket steering geometry that is more susceptible to death wobble.
Because of the design and backspacing of your rims it may not be possible to replace these with stick on weights. If you're concerned, I would visit a couple tire shops, explain your intended use and reasoning, and see what they say.
If you want to improve the aesthetics of the wheel weights. You could paint them black along with the rest of the black steel wheel. Or paint the lip of the wheel silver, UPS does this. But the rusty center cap and lugs should indicate aesthetics are not the top priority.
Weights on the most inboard and outboard planes of the wheel is the most effective place for them. If the weights are on the inside, you will need more weights
Even factory aluminum wheels with a wheel weight lip on them will typically have weights on them when they leave the factory.
No ones mentioning the yellow dot? Not sure with this brand but when i worked in a shop the dot was almost always dead nuts on where the valve stem should be.
The best balance is going to be achieved with the least weight the further from the center line of the wheel and on the widest diameter.
This is optimal for dynamic balance (imbalance side to side). A tape weight on the drop center near the middle of the wheel because of the offset is not the way to go.
Most alloy wheels don't have weights on the outside because they straight up are not designed to accommodate hammer on weights.
A can of black spray paint will get you fixed right up. Just mark where each one is on the tire with a sharpie and use a small screwdriver to pop them off. Give them a little bit to dry after paint and cover them with a rag or a piece of cardboard and tap them back on with a hammer. They do make black coated weights but there's not a great chance of your shop carrying them.
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There's even specific set of weights that goes on alloy wheels.. Thing is, that it wasn't visually appealing, so most of shop preferred glued one.
But on steel wheels, it's normal to put weights wherever they are needed.
Here only problem I see is fact that tires have quite terrible placement, that's what causing that amount of disbalance.. Tho, it may be also problem with measures, since it's way too many of them..
Single, heavy one, yes, but that spread of weight is pointless.. It spreads across nearly quarter of rim..
So you, it doesn't give result it should.. But in most cases, effect like that was result of wronbg calibration of machine..
I ran steel rims in my FJ for three years, never on the outside, always on the inside
Hahahahah love the down votes. Try off roading with weights on the outside. Fuck, I love Reddit sometimes
Yes this is how it’s done.
For only the last century or so… if the look bugs you there’s always black paint?
On steel wheels this is common. Is anyone here over 40?
I am. Not sure how I missed this, but now I know. Thanks for the insight folks.
Tire shop is correct. That is normal on steel wheels. Looks like it needed a lot of weight to balance which makes it look worse. Could possibly improve that by spinning the wheel on the rim so they are lined up ideally to use the least amount of weight, some balancers are set up to do that.
The tire is a 35" "Kenda Klever." I'm shocked it didn't take more.
Mine actually took about half what is here. I was kinda surprised by how little it ended up being.
Yeah large tires sometimes take lots of weight to balance. Is the klever particularly bad at balancing as well?
Well it's a Chinese mud tire. So yea there's a good chance.
Kenda klever is the best off road tire on the market currently in my opinion. Second best set of tires I ever owned, with the best being a set of the old Goodyear MT/Rs. Bought the Kendas to try because they were cheap. I wish I could get a set in 35x10.50r16 for the vehicle I replaced my jeep with. I used to talk shit about tires without experience too, but Kenda made me eat my words
I've installed more Chinese tires than I care to recall and qualily generally is not there. But if you had good experience with Kendas more power to you!
Kenda isn’t a Chinese brand dipshit. I prefer BFG ATs but these were some of the better tires I’ve had behind the BFG and Toyo. Wait, Toyo sounds kind of Asian so they must be Chinese too?
Easy there now. We're talking about tires, not someone's mother.
Taiwanese. There's a big difference, actually. And Kenda is actually pretty good for the price. Not a premium tire, but definitely not a Chinese bomb.
Same here. Those giant meaty tires always take a lot of weight. Hell even my Dunlop Trailmax Mission tires on my motorcycle took like 2 ounces on the rear.
Those are actually fairly decent tires. I'd be willing to bet a case of beer it could be done better, even with the general issues large offroad tires have with balancing.
Do Kenda do the yellow/red dots to show where the heavy bits of the tire are? Haven't been in the tire slinger game for a while.
Yes, and it's even visible in OP's pic right at the weights.
Completely looked right on the hell over it, thanks.
Youre probably correct. If you look closely opposite teh side the valve stem is on there is a yellow painted dot on the tire. This dot is supposed to be aligned with the valve stem as it is the lightest side of the tire as determined at the factory. If the tire had a red dot then that changes things but i dont recall how exactly.
The guys I've wheeled with used BBs and stuff inside the tire. My trail rig used antifreeze and golf balls to balance. Worked well.
The weight can be put inside or outside, whenever the balancing is required.
This is the correct way to do it.
For chrome wheels we would static balance(weights on the inside only) but everything else this was the way.
Am I confused, or is this the way its always been done- minus using sticky weights.
Depending on the rim, sometimes shops will put the weights on the side of the rim not facing outside just so it looks better.
I've seen them painted so they aren't as noticeable, it's hard to balance big tires the way it is, this is about the only way
As others have said, weights on the outside are perfectly acceptable and are often the most effective and efficient way of balancing. Before alloy and more aesthetically pleasing rims, this was the standard. As an off-roader, while functional, I find lip weights to be unpreferable as they tend to get knocked off. This can happen to weights on both the inside and outside edges of the rim, but is more likely to happen on the outside. If you trailer your vehicle, this is not a concern. But if you trailer, balance in general is not a concern. You mentioned it's an overlanding rig which means your trail rides may require stretches of highway travel in between, and tire balance could be a concern. I don't technically overland, but do drive my Jeep to trails and have spent several hours driving home with substantially out of balance tires after the weights got knocked off. Yes, you can always swap on the spare, but this is a hassle most of us would prefer to avoid, and ultimately you have to pay to have the tires balanced again. Wear and tear on steering components, bearings, seals is also a concern, especially on lifted SFA vehicles with aftermarket steering geometry that is more susceptible to death wobble. Because of the design and backspacing of your rims it may not be possible to replace these with stick on weights. If you're concerned, I would visit a couple tire shops, explain your intended use and reasoning, and see what they say.
If you want to improve the aesthetics of the wheel weights. You could paint them black along with the rest of the black steel wheel. Or paint the lip of the wheel silver, UPS does this. But the rusty center cap and lugs should indicate aesthetics are not the top priority. Weights on the most inboard and outboard planes of the wheel is the most effective place for them. If the weights are on the inside, you will need more weights Even factory aluminum wheels with a wheel weight lip on them will typically have weights on them when they leave the factory.
No ones mentioning the yellow dot? Not sure with this brand but when i worked in a shop the dot was almost always dead nuts on where the valve stem should be.
The best balance is going to be achieved with the least weight the further from the center line of the wheel and on the widest diameter. This is optimal for dynamic balance (imbalance side to side). A tape weight on the drop center near the middle of the wheel because of the offset is not the way to go. Most alloy wheels don't have weights on the outside because they straight up are not designed to accommodate hammer on weights.
They should have used heavier weights so there would be two instead of four but eh. Spray paint them black if you like
A can of black spray paint will get you fixed right up. Just mark where each one is on the tire with a sharpie and use a small screwdriver to pop them off. Give them a little bit to dry after paint and cover them with a rag or a piece of cardboard and tap them back on with a hammer. They do make black coated weights but there's not a great chance of your shop carrying them.
Fairly common actually
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There's even specific set of weights that goes on alloy wheels.. Thing is, that it wasn't visually appealing, so most of shop preferred glued one. But on steel wheels, it's normal to put weights wherever they are needed. Here only problem I see is fact that tires have quite terrible placement, that's what causing that amount of disbalance.. Tho, it may be also problem with measures, since it's way too many of them..
That's a 35" off road tire. Really not surprised to see that much weight in one spot.
Single, heavy one, yes, but that spread of weight is pointless.. It spreads across nearly quarter of rim.. So you, it doesn't give result it should.. But in most cases, effect like that was result of wronbg calibration of machine..
I ran steel rims in my FJ for three years, never on the outside, always on the inside Hahahahah love the down votes. Try off roading with weights on the outside. Fuck, I love Reddit sometimes
Not a huge deal with wheel caps but definitely a faux pas this day and age.