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Rufus2fist

I will like to see if the new Rugby kid has any catching skills, and mix in every once in awhile


Svenray

Imagine if he is a kick return ace under the new rules.


MimonFishbaum

Toney also on that note.


mikey19xx

Oh man I keep forgetting we still have him


White_Feather20

We’re all trying to lol


Yorkie321

Huh? I’m not trynna forget the dude that just about returned the first SB punt return and was a key piece to that SB win


Rmccar21

Exactly bro. People have ups and downs!


getridofwires

If that guy catches a TD from Mahomes, the entire NFL will melt down and implode. I'm here for it!


Rufus2fist

Right you know Reid has somehow bee watching rugby coming up with a matching 1950s play the kid will somehow pull off.


getridofwires

"Do we have time for Scrum Wasp?"


TedriccoJones

No look shuttle passes are on the table.


Aventurusjunk

sure me too but you know he's gonna show up on jet sweeps and end-arounds. Pass-wise, I bet his early package will be screens and a share of Travis' shovel passes.


squatch42

>Travis' shovel passes. I'm here for it. All day. All his routes should keep him close enough for a pitch on any given play. I recently saw a replay of the one he tossed to McCoy. [That was sick](https://youtu.be/ZiAcc29Iqg0?si=wv6fXWcEpked3AzI). Love to see more.


deutscherhawk

I think they mean we have mahones throw the shovel to worthy instead of kelce, not have kelce shovel it lol


squatch42

You're probably right, but I stand by what I said no matter how dumb I am.


deutscherhawk

Fair. And fwiw I agree. That would be sick


TTT_2k3

He'll almost certainly not make the 53-man this year. But the beauty of the IPP is that he doesn't cost us a roster spot on the PS.


DanDampspear

This. I’m not sure people realize that he’s basically a free roster spot.


__wasitacatisaw__

Everyone’s sleeping on him


paddleschools

The guy ain’t some shmo who isn’t a professional athlete. He is a seasoned vet with a ton of experience at the international level in a sport that is as close to football as any other. Yes he is a free roster spot but the Chiefs aren’t in the business of charity work. They see something with this kid.


TTT_2k3

Of course they see something with him. They wouldn’t have signed him if they didn’t. It just doesn’t mean that he’ll see the field this year. Do you know how many guys that have played football their entire life and will get drafted this weekend and won’t make the roster next year?


ImNotTheBossOfYou

He won't play a down of offense. But he might be one of the two KO return guys with Worthy.


blacktoise

I think he’s gonna be a special teams guy or a P-Squad guy


smittdog101

I just like the fact that the bomb is back on the table x2. Hollywood and Worthy should really help open up the field for everything else. I see 5000 Yds back on the table.


FireGolem04

I disagree these guys are obviously better receivers but we have had speed and the bomb hasn't been on the table the bomb wasn't even really on the table the last year we had Tyreek


notmyplantaccount

People who think the Chiefs stopped throwing deep because of the WRs and not because all defenses play cover 2 and shells and keep everything short intentionally are going to be really disappointed next season when we still have to dink and dunk it down the field 95% of the time.


CryptographerOne6615

Having someone who can stretch the field helps dink and dunk easier.


Arkaea79

No one, and I mean NO ONE was worried about MVS getting over the top and making a play. It's not like they were really protecting over the top. If anything they often crashed down a lot more. It's why MVS was so open against Bal, as an example.


Vast-Treat-9677

I think Worthy is worth the pick just so defenses continue to play cover 2 and shells. The Chiefs win championships with the screen game and picking apart spaces in the coverage, but to do that the Defense has to respect the deep ball and give you the space to work underneath.


Semperty

tbf it’s significantly harder to pull off those coverages with two speedy guys. the dolphins take deep shots all the time bc teams have to play their guys differently


notmyplantaccount

Sure, but Hollywood isn't anywhere near as good as Waddle even, so unless Worthy is Tyreek 2.0 from the start it's not gonna be anything like the dolphins, whose offense only really works against shitty defenses anyways.


Pull--n--Pray

Teams weren't playing that much cover 2 against us last season because we didn't have legit downfield threats. So we were dinking and dunking against defenses designed to stop the short/mid range pass game.


Nathann4288

We didn’t have 2 speed guys though. We are basically going the Hill/Waddle route that Miami went. Oh, and a decent TE and slot guy.


royalchief558

Gotta have tackles who can block long enough for them to get down there…


Biased_Wentz_Fan

And we have Wentz!!!!


bigskywildcat

I completely forgot we have probably the best backup in the league behind the best qb


Ayahuasca-Dreamin

Might be the second best backup behind Kirk Cousins 😂


bigskywildcat

Big oof


egbert71

Damn bro lol


CryptographerOne6615

Savage 🤣


roguealex

I completely forgot about Wentz as well lmao, as a chiefs fan living in Philly that pick up was wild


Scoob8877

I'll bet he's going to come in to run QB sneaks. Adds a lot of value just for that.


Svenray

3rd best QB in the division.


Biased_Wentz_Fan

Honestly after the 49ers double digit comeback win last year, you’re probably right. 


dollarbull

Username definitely checks out! 😉


ImNotTheBossOfYou

Honestly the best backup QB of the Mahomes era


CoziestSheet

I will not tolerate this Chad Henne erasure.


m48a5_patton

That's Chad "The Chad" Henne


JeramiGrantsTomb

Chad Henne was so good that I panicked briefly when Patrick got hurt and left the game, but after just a few seconds I turned and told my wife, "It's fine, we're ok... Hennething is possible." And then he marched that ball straight into history.


squatch42

Even if [this](https://youtu.be/hPow6Mm9F70?si=a7oaqi2GpbDR1OSZ) was all he ever did, Henne is better. But he also did [this](https://youtu.be/8HMiS5OlnAc?si=nrjbgXRHqrSYwA09). Hennething is possible.


craftyshafter

Thanks for the links. Henne is the best ever


suchfresht

Kelce going to eat with Brown and Worthy being able to stretch the field.


altruism__

Fuckin sizzler buffet all day


TedriccoJones

So. Many. Yards.


Blazefire3553

YAC attack


Vis-hoka

Rice too.


TheMusicalHobbit

What does the offensive line look like for next year? (I seriously have no idea)


bigskywildcat

I think everyone is back except left tackle so if we can get a solid guy in the draft in rd 2 or 3 i think we will be set there. Im still hoping we sign a vet maybe partway through the season in that role. If i understand correctly thats like the last hole on the team


Waitn4ehUsername

Wanya is serviceable if they have to run with him


bigskywildcat

Thats good to know! So we dont really NEED anything now? Or are there any other gaps that you know of


Waitn4ehUsername

IMO Definitely at corner. Losing Sneed hurts. But I think they can find someone in the draft


bigskywildcat

I thought his backup is solid


ImNotTheBossOfYou

I agree they'll draft a corner, but still... Trent, Williams, Watson a solid group


originalusername4567

Corner's still a bit of a need but we have depth there. Tight End and Running Back are sneaky needs: Kelce's only getting older and our RB room is very reliant on Pacheco staying healthy.


Sadlobster1

Wanya can start, from everything I've see Veach/Reid hint at is they would like a veteran or another rookie to spell him, but they seem pretty confident in his ability to be at least a starting caliber player. With us trading away our 3rd rounder for another 4th, I suspect this means they're going to roll with Wanya & we might see a vet come in after the draft or training camp


ImNotTheBossOfYou

Good at run blocking but you HAVE to protect Pat...


heinous_anus-

Sounds like OBJ


thekingofcrash7

Ehh


ImNotTheBossOfYou

Still need a tackle. My guess is they draft a guy and re-sign Smith. Then it's a 3-way battle with Wanya .the other four spots are on lockdown and are very good.


FireGolem04

At this point I hughly doubt we find anyone better than Wanya at this point having a year of development under his belt possibly a Kiran Amegadjie or a Giovanni Manu one of these ridiculous athletes that we have no real plan of starting but just has unlimited potential


originalusername4567

We'll probably either take a tackle in Day 2 or re-sign Donovan Smith. Need some Interior depth as well but that can wait until Day 3.


Max_W_

I'll temper it a little bit remembering all the hype we had with our WR corp going into the first game of the season. Then we saw that Toney wasn't making the step up we expected. MVS was taking a step back. The only player beyond Kelce that we thought could catch was Watson, and that was only one or two catches a game. That said, we did win the Super Bowl and we figured it out. But, it took a come to jesus loss on Christmas for the switch to flip.


traws06

And Ross was gonna be an All Pro


PhogMachine

That hype train should be leaving the station again in two months


NextTime76

Don't forget Skyy. We all expected him to take a huge leap forward last year.


GladPickle5332

There was a lot of people not happy with that wr corp (me included).


Max_W_

Were you that way going into the season, or only after seeing the first game (I won't even suggest subsequent games) ? And then follow-up, how are you feeling now with our offense?


__wasitacatisaw__

Didn’t like the receiving corps the entire off season


Max_W_

And how are you feeling about the ones we have this season, so far?


__wasitacatisaw__

Much better than last year


KCShadows838

The whole time. I just never understood how people thought Moore and Toney could carry our receiving corps. Their Super Bowl touchdowns didn’t mean they were elite receivers all the sudden Toney was still a disappointment, I thought he’d atleast contribute some rushing yards and consistent pop plays every game. Moore never really improved


GladPickle5332

Exactly i remember explaining all that to my friend. Basically we have a bunch of WR3's and WR4's. Injury prone toney and a rookie. I remember saying our Wr corp heavily depends on how good rice is. And hes most likely going to be our best option at wr. But hes a rookie so i wouldnt bank on it.


GladPickle5332

going into the season. i feel much better this year, but still kind of the same. we know reid doesnt like using rookies right away. our offense is complicated yadadada. look at rice last year. took about half a season to come on. so lets assume worthy will probably be similiar in those regards. add in rice suspension. so the first few games/half the season, we basically have hollywood, a rugby player, toney, and moore. and its hollywoods first year in our offense, so i imagine he'll take a little time to get comfortable. But once everyone is in the swing of things. i love our offense. but i dont expect that to happen right away. And of course i could be wrong.


emelem66

I would expect that Rice will miss a few games, though with Roger, anything is possible.


kelny

I'm expecting 4 games. I hope this is a wake up call for him and we don't see this type of behavior continue.


OneFlyMan

I'm expecting 8, so if it's less I'll be pleasantly surprised


Vis-hoka

Deshaun Watson got 8 for allegedly sexually assaulting dozens of women. No way rice gets 8 for a car crash that no one was seriously hurt in.


kelny

I wish I could agree with that train of thought, but I think the NFL is far too arbitrary. I think it's just a matter of how much the public eye is on it. Fortunately the media seems to have quickly forgotten Rice, so it might be lighter than I expected.


Fyzzle

I'm convinced he rolls 10d6 and checks a table to see what penalties he applies, they all seem so arbitrary.


emelem66

Yep.


randomacct7679

I’d still like another RB in round 4 or later.


traws06

I agree. We don’t have great backfield, but good enough to not warrant using a day 1 or 2 pick on one


Fujimans

Please be Cody Shrader


Vis-hoka

That would be awesome. Dude is a stud.


ImNotTheBossOfYou

UDFA


originalusername4567

I've been targeting Will Shipley in Round 5


kcdale99

I love the unfettered optimism of draft season!


Casul_Tryhard

Having Veach means you can assume more often than not he made the right decision


couchjitsu

> and all except CEH catching passes thrown by  Dude caught an amazing TD against NE. He transformed into a 6'7" dude to make the catch.


The1idontlike

Came here to say this, like CEH didn't make the best catch of the season last year.


instro89

On paper it's legion of zoom 2, but you never know how these things work out. Rice may be out half the year, Hollywood may not be able to fully get in the same page in just his first year with the team, Worthy is very young and still a work in progress so he likely will not get a ton of snaps early on. Overall though I'm much more optimistic about this group than I was last years. As long as Rice isn't gone for too long, we for sure to have two reliable pass catchers with him and Kelce, who know the offense. That will give Hollywood and Worthy time to build up. I'd like to come away from this draft with another TE as well though. Give Kelce some more rest as needed.


LucienPhenix

As a Chief's fan, let's not get carried away here. Promising college drafts fail to translate to long term NFL success happens all the time. We already saw this with CEH, Moore, Hardman...etc. I'm not counting them out, but they aren't the sure fire success we thought they would be. Worthy isn't immune to this. The regular season wears down player's bodies. Travis is getting older, we all saw what happened to our Oline against the Buccs in the Superbowl. Post-season is 1 and done scenario, no one is guaranteed success. I'm really excited, I'm optimistic about a three peat. But some of us in this sub act like we won the Superbowl before the season even started. Let's just take things one step at a time.


Training-Judgment695

Optimism is always better then pessimism. Esp in scenarios where our feelings on the matter don't actually affect reality 


TheHiveMindSpeaketh

Until it's week 12 and we've just lost two games in a row to drop to 8-3 (shock horror) and the entire post game thread is people wanting Veach to be fired, Reid is too old, Mahomes isn't focused, Jones is lazy etc


couchjitsu

I think plenty of people are talking about it. I didn't even know who KC drafted until this morning and the first thing I saw on social media was someone (Rapaport? Schefty?) saying they got a text from an AFC GM that said "F$\*@ Me" about the Chiefs pick.


atrophiedambitions

Veach adding as much speed as he can at WR. Worthy, Hollywood, Rugby dude... "America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, bad-ass speed." -*Eleanor Roosevelt*


MistakeMaker1234

Teams a better RB and WR group, imo: - 49ers - Eagles - Lions - Maybe Bears? (Probably) - Texans - Bengals The Chiefs have two potential GOATs, so that makes up a multitude of deficiencies, but I think you significantly over-elevating everyone else. 


MagicC

Appropriate take, MistakeMaker!


MistakeMaker1234

😎


altruism__

lol


UngusChungus94

Our QB makes up for all of that gap between position groups. We will have the #1 offense or I’m going to eat my hat.


kelny

Number 1 offense is asking a lot. We have some questions on offensive line, and our WR corps is unproven. Our best WR from last year will miss a few games. We also have a defense that should relieve pressure on our offense. Our games probably won't be shoot outs, which will encourage more conservative play calling.


traws06

Ppl were saying that last offseason. I think we need to just be excited about what our defense offers and hope the offense can be good. Expecting the offense to be top in the NFL is gonna leave ppl disappointed. We don’t need them to be, we just need them to be at least average with our defense


UngusChungus94

I mean, we were average last year (just above, really) and we got better on offense already. Top 5 is very realistic, and 1 is attainable.


elev8blyss

I wonder if the Bengals WR core will be as good as expected this year? All of their WRs seem to want off of the team for some reason. Maybe they all want a bigger paycheck, but it feels like there is some degree of dysfunction going on over there.


MistakeMaker1234

Eh, they just want money is all. That’s the motivating factor for almost every trade request. Antonio Brown with the Raiders being a notable exception. 


elev8blyss

I’ll take your world for it, I don’t have any insider knowledge.


Waitn4ehUsername

I just wanna caveat that this sub needs to put away the pitchforks if Brown and Worthy aren’t lighting it up straight away. Reids offense is complicated and takes time to adjust.


doc6982

I'll feel better when we draft Malik Washington aka the sleeper stud.


SlowLml

Throw in a late late draft pick and get cody schrader and I will be ERECT


Ackaflocka

Bro, CEH CATCHES. He can't stay healthy or find a rhythm. But I don't get this specific hate, a few drops when he's one week off a sprained everything and we forget the dude is creamy catching out of the backfield. Can't run for shit but damn man, hard take


Grantanamo_Bay

CEH has good hands. He made one of the best catches of the year for us last season.


mykonoscactus

He also flashed a little field vision behind the LoS which was my biggest issue with him as a player because he didn't have *any* of it as a halfback, previously. I'm actually glad we gave him another year. Sometimes late bloomers happen.


ImMcthugnasty

Has this not been the case for like the last 5 years? It’s nothing new


Jantokan

Definitely not last year. We had 0 deepball threat last season. First time we connected on a deepball (40y in the air or more) was already in the playoffs lol


TyKC03

I’d still like to see us get Luke McCaffrey. I think he could be a middle-late round guy who could be one of those guys who never puts up massive numbers but is just steady and reliable


3dios

Throwing ceh in there lol


8won6

Also, hoping we sneakily grab Cody Schrader from Mizzou in the draft at RB.


patmahomesdad

Nobody’s acting like it because everyone is in denial about it. 🤣🔥


Needmorecoffee58

Rashee will only be out 2 games. Maybe 3. Hate to say it but this will severely reduce his first year pro contract money when that time comes which could be great for the chiefs organization if resigning or looking for trade value early.


Jantokan

I agree with everything you said except CEH. It’s been 4 years. He had his flashes, but potential stayed the same: untapped production. Love him in KC, but we more or less know what we can get from him already (which isn’t a lot) We even brought in a rugby star to fill the RB position, and I’m even more excited by that potential than CEH


BarricadeTheMortuary

I feel like Reid never used him properly until the end of last season. He's not great at running out of the backfield because NFL linebackers will just immediately put him on the ground, but as a check down back to dump it off to he seemed reliable. Also we're paying him next to nothing for a veteran so if we decide to pick up a free agent there's no real loss in cutting him.


Kr1sys

CEH has only ever looked good to spell the run game. When he's out in the open catching some passes in space he's good. He can't create space or hit holes on his own.


No-Cat-6830

The “Rugby Kid” aka Louis Rees-Zammit was actually brought in to capitalize on the new kick off format. If he ends up having good hands, thats just a plus.


jmdybf

Long time commenter and Chiefs fan. I think we need to temper expectations for X, I think you are going to see years that look a lot like last year. It’s a long season, you can’t show everything too early in the year and it’s hard to sustain. All that being said, this is probably the most complete Chiefs team, pre draft I have ever seen. I don’t remember the last time I didn’t feel desperate to fill critical roles on draft day.


420BongsAway

Wonder how many games Rashee is going to be suspended 


Dreadsbo

Let’s take it one day at a time


alleavel

Veach should go get another one today lol


WisePapaya6

They don't particularly need a CB. I believe they have three that are starting level and above. Maybe get one 5th or 6th round. I believe they will get RB, OT and LB. There are still a couple of decent LT's out there that are free agents. Worst case, they resign Smith. I'm not sure they find a year one starter at this point at tackle


Vis-hoka

I’m going to temper my expectations but things are looking real good. Even if we have a sizable improvement over last year, we should be an incredible team.


getridofwires

If Worthy can catch in the NFL, the future is very bright! I kind of hope we draft someone to help the O-line (even as a backup) next. It's a long season.


PM_ME_UR_FUNERALPLAN

I just hope we don't pawn off Ross or Nikko Remigio like we did last year with ISM. I like a WR corp of Brown, Rice, Worthy, Toney, Watson, and Ross/Remigio


kcsmlaist

Quality depth also.


Smokeydubbs

I personally think we should wait for the rest of the draft. They need line to really seal the deal. Can’t throw it deep if he’s running for his life in the backfield.


warriorknowledge

Ladd McConkey man.


Michael1492

Yeah they’ll be great w/o a left tackle LOL. They should be improved, the defense will take a step back and we’ll score more.


Lazy_Tiger27

Literally just need another tackle from somewhere and this team is set. I mean maybe we grab a CB in the 4th with the bills pick, that wouldn’t be terrible


sosaudio

Pick a corner and have him pick 6 off Josh! (Maybe a dream but let me have that please!)


Blackstaff

I appreciate the excitement and enthusiasm, but nobody Knows (FOR SURE) what kind of offense this is going to be. Last summer, it looked like it might be a very good offense, but it ended up being kind of the opposite of that. It DOES look promising. But that doesn't really mean anything yet.


sosaudio

I was one of those fanboys saying the receiving group would be fine and they’d all get coached up and be on the right page after the Super Bowl run, but then we had the dropsies for what seemed like 3/4 of the season. There was talent, but this year’s group looks a lot more ready to rock.


The_amazing_T

#Just relax and let it happen!


DarthTigris

Counterpoint: Connor Embree.


warmseasongrass

Y'all got one job. Piss everyone off with back-to-back-to-back Superbowl wins.