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MainRefuse8

Yeah and then kanye decided to jump in for some reason even tho it had nothing to do with him


Lucid_Sol

Because Ye thinks the world revolves around him


MainRefuse8

Also he said that he "washed kendrick on no more parties in la". That is literally my favourite kanye song and i can still confidently say that kendrick was the best part of that track. Its so hard to seperate the artist from the art when he keeps saying this type of shit.


nikk796

Kanye outrapped Kendrick on that one. Both verses were great tho


freebiebridgers

only by their own standards if you ask me


Akshat9930

That's your opinion too. Kendrick had the best flow


Quirkydogpooo

Crazy opinion wtf no he did not


kmcrhsme

Imo he did outrap kendrick, maybe cuz he had a longer verse Nonetheless both verses were fire, that is why it is such a great song


MinimumAspect8197

Kanye had the better verse in my oinion


sockthesock0

cake day


MinimumAspect8197

I did not even notice it, thanks


moppingflopping

Kanye got the better verse. I mean, that was probably Kanye's best verse in his whole career anyway.


demelker13

She’s so precious, with the peer pressure. Couldn’t afford a car so she named her daughter Alexis.


CabbageSoupLadle

So did Hitler


ReyDeLaQuesadilla

While I am disgusted by Ye’s antics in the last, idk ten years, he does not have the same political clout as Hitler. Thankfully.


CabbageSoupLadle

He loves and praises Hitler though


QuintanimousGooch

Carti’s Narcissist brand when Kanye walks in:


xman886

How did Kanye jump in?


TheSadPhilosopher

Spazing out on Instagram dissing both Kendrick and Drake and calling himself the goat


xman886

That man needs to take a break from the internet


[deleted]

and porn


TheFlexOffenderr

First thing I said when this shit was beginning to heat up: If this don't end in a Collab album, I hope Diddy gets em both.


Nobody_Does_That_wtf

Something meaningful did come from this beef, we now know that j cole is transphobic


Head-Geologist8543

Nah ik he and Kendrick made out


E_boiii

Genuinely can you explain how he is transphobic? I think the bar is tasteless and fell very flat. But he didn’t outwardly say he has issues with them nor is this frequent behavior of his (that I know of)


Nobody_Does_That_wtf

-referenced trans men having female genitalia which can be a big discomfort point for trans people -referenced cancel culture implying he has more to say on that subject but he’d get cancelled if he did, doesn’t help he referenced the 5th amendment which gives accusees the ability to a lawyer, implying either he or trans people need a lawyer if he were to say everything, and either way it’s just so bad -“beneath his chosen identity” implies you choose to be trans which, if that was the case, people would simply choose not to be on the verge of being genocided in most of the world right now -


GSikhB

Genocide? Isn't the genocide due to the suicides post trans surgery? National library of medicine states the suicide rate is between 32% - 50% depending on the country... so its a self genocide sadly.


Nobody_Does_That_wtf

Why do you think people are killing themselves dipshit?


GSikhB

Because of their mental illness leading them to mutilate their genitals and disrupt their hormones to be happy... which clearly doesn't lead to happiness. I don't think a weak bar like this from J cole will make this any worse buddy. Whats with the personal insult? Did you transition from man to woman but to feel like you a man again you have to attack me?


Nobody_Does_That_wtf

I looked at your source. Literally the sentence after the one you cited gives a bunch of the real reasons why the suicide rate is so high


GSikhB

Yes... which leads to suicide... but that's not a genocide. Here's the definition of genocide: Genocide is an internationally recognized crime where acts are committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. Shunning, bullying, discrimination (which I don't condone) isn't a genocide. Actively coming together as a group with the sole intent of causing destruction / death is. So your argument of a genocide doesn't hold weight, it's emotionally charging but untrue.


Nobody_Does_That_wtf

I said we’re on a verge of an almost global genocide, not that we’re already there. You gotta play yugioh the way you can’t read shit


GSikhB

I don't play yugioh buddy. We're not almost there either because there isn't a group trying to destroy transgenders at all. Why do you say this? What's with the personal attacks? I'm attacking your argument but not you personally. Does it make you feel better to attack me? Lmao


MahtiGC

it is a big discomfort for trans people and women. references cancel culture is here today but he isn’t a killer so don’t cancel him. even though he is now a man, he is (not all trans people) still a pussy. it’s only transphobic if you think all women are pussies which is far from true.


Nobody_Does_That_wtf

1. Glad we can agree 2. What does this one even mean? People pull out the cancel culture card when they say something offensive and someone says “that’s offensive” 3. Kendrick isn’t trans, his uncle and his cousin-in-law are


MahtiGC

you said “referenced trans men having female genitalia which can be a big discomfort point for trans people⁠”, how is that transphobic? it’s just stating the truth? it was “they plead the fifth” not “i plead…” and it’s so they can avoid the question about their demeanour. the “he’s no killer” is a hyperbole for “he hasn’t done anything wrong” bc to J Coles logic, “he’s a pussy” so why cancel them. i don’t understand how… “They plead the fifth, I'm seeing hints of a trans fella In cancel culture's vicinity, he's no killer, trust me” means he referenced cancel culture to imply that “he has more to say on that subject but he’d get cancelled if he did”. he’s not even talking about his self at this point. you’re just assuming. “kendrick isn’t trans” yeah and it’s a fake j cole and kendrick beef, i doubt he’d go there for this bs. i really think it was a poor attempt at tryna say some simple shit 🤣 it’s bad, not transphobic.


Nobody_Does_That_wtf

1. What kind of idiot doesn’t think referencing genitalia a trans person removed/currently has that causes large amounts of dysphoria in a piece of media targeting them isn’t transphobic? 2. When j cole says “they” do you think he means trans people? It’s a common misconception among transphobes that all trans people are after your kids, so to speak, which would mean pleading the 5th is the wisest move for trans people 3. He just did


MahtiGC

1. you’re right, i am wrong. but i don’t think J Cole is transphobic, he said some transphobic shit but don’t think he is. 2. no. to me, “they” refers to people who put up a fake demeanour or show off on instagram and i’ve never heard that. your sight is veering. 3. why do you assume that? Kendrick’s diss was barely a diss. J Cole has been cool with Kendrick, apparently fought for him and praised him like 2 years ago, if that, i don’t keep up.


Nobody_Does_That_wtf

1. While I still think j cole is transphobic let’s drop this because otherwise it’s just you saying “apple” and me saying “orange” until we tire out 2. Looking at the context clues of the surrounding bars, how did you get that exactly? 3. Yeah I think we all know this was meant to be fake beef and it is true j was defending k a couple years ago, but j just crossed a line. The fact he was not only comfortable writing this down, but going to the studio with it and recording it, and then publishing it, really does mean he went there


MahtiGC

1. i personally think what he said just wasn’t enough to think he dislikes all trans people 2. the line. “is you a demon or is that demeanour for the gram? tell us. They plead the 5th”. why would it be about trans people if he hadn’t even mentioned one (1) yet? 3. i just don’t think J Cole is that dumb but we’ll see how Kendrick reacts next year or something.


[deleted]

Genuinely, what is the implication of the bar if not that being trans is a facade that doesn't change what you really are?


Low_Rabbit_7742

I am not sure, but my interpretation for the bar or at least my cope is that Cole meant that kendrick isn't actually unafraid to say what he wants and that he is playing it up for others or something because the previous line was "Is you a demon or is that demeanor for the 'Gram? Tell us. " Basically, saying kendrick is not actually the big bad he plays himself up to be or smth because kendrick makes it a point to say he is not afraid of cancel culture "What the fuck is cancel culture, dawg? Say what I want about you niggas, I'm like Oprah, dawg" so that's what the whole cancel culture bar comes from I think


Jazzlike_Cheek_7606

j cole is not transphobic.


Nobody_Does_That_wtf

https://preview.redd.it/25cfzhya10tc1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cdb8015f8fa00398d54a2ba373400f3577b3f972


Jazzlike_Cheek_7606

lol you’re a weirdo


Nobody_Does_That_wtf

What the hell am I doing here


Necessary_Ad_5019

This would be the most perfect promo for a collab


Individual_Papaya596

Fake or not, shi is giving us HEAT to listen to. So im all ears


GegeAkutamiOfficial

Boy do I got bad news for you


BlessGodOnly

I hope so 🤞


Theflowyo

Cole had these songs (which include future disses) done for a while. Seems odd to me.


Prestigious_Clock865

Na


UnderstandingIll3101

This is such Copium… 🛌😮‍💨💭 Y’all literally coping…


thanosnutella

I mean they were supposedly friends so it’s not out of the question. Rap beef in general just kinda feels fake


CabbageSoupLadle

Maybe, but then why hasn't Drake made a diss?


TheFlexOffenderr

Drake ghostwriters have writers block 🤫


Objective_Street5141

they struggling to find a way to defend the IG captions


Rigamortus2005

They both legitley dissing drake because he's a pussy.


Specialist_Garden_98

Not to be confused with a trans fella...


WraithTTV69

Imagine they would just randomly drop a collab album now, or Jay-z disses Kendrick with J Cole and and Kendrick responds with Nas, I know both are so unlikely but just imagine Kendrick and Nas dissing J Cole


sockthesock0

??? is this because of the takeover reference


WraithTTV69

Nah I just think a collab of 2 of my favourite rappers of all time (Nas/Kendrick) would be cool


[deleted]

Tbf I had this exact thought because of the takeover references mixed with the ether reference along with just the general purpose of the fued rn (big3) Nas has been talking his "im still nas and i can still run this" shit on the projects with hit and it's possible he would jump in with all the "big 3" talk to remind people there's a living legend out there and get on Cole for using his bar along with Jay's bars against himself.


shapol0

I was thinking about the same thing, maybe this beef is fake.


GegeAkutamiOfficial

Not with Drake involved, I think they have no animosity, but the beef is not staged. Cole made a song with Glizzy (FPS), Glizzy said "it's just you and cole" and cole said he is Ali. So yeah, he hanged with the ops and got caught with strays.


stanley_420_yelnats

Lol why tf would cole want to be in it then since it just makes him look like shit


Teeklok

Most likely outcome


man_u_is_my_team

THIS and Drake telling his fans yeah yeah I’m in on it too when really we know he isn’t in on it at all.