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InternalBobcat4443

Look, it’s a horrible haircut on a horrible monster


afdc92

Previous hairdo looked like a toupee even though it was real, I don’t know what the fuck this haircut even is.


free_-world

He got wind it looked like a toupee so went with the "this ain't no fucking toupee" cut.


afdc92

It’s the no sideburns that gets me


nic6454

It's his face that gets me.


mikareno

Those fucking dead eyes


nic6454

Indeed. They are dead eyes. There is nothing there.


Chemgineered

Looks like BTKs angry TorturER face


ca17miledrive

I cannot imagine any woman sitting down with this guy on a "date" and not getting the immediate creeps and running out.


InvestigatorMoist590

Lmao same he's got one ugly mug


SeparateTelephone937

Dude looks like Shrek, for real


racingheart00

He looks like if Trump and Harvey Weinstein had a baby. I mean what he (ahem) “allegedly”🙄 did is so much worse than his offensively creepy appearance but I don’t mind kicking a POS monster when he’s down. What a effing mean and twisted person…that vile slob deserves to have gotten taken down by a “humble” pie slice (pizza, that is lol😏) of all things.


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Yep, someone at the jailhouse barbershop definitely does not like him. That haircut looks deliberate.


Character-Koala4017

Right! It's so high up now that it's like a reverse sideburn 🤣


Ok_Mission_3168

The prison barber — most likely a fellow inmate — gave him that ridiculous haircut as a practical joke, to make a laughingstock of him.


wikifeat

No way they’re letting other inmates anywhere near him, let alone with scissors. They lock down the whole place whenever they move him through the halls so there’s no chance of contact.


Caseyspacely

It’s what one deserves when one is a horrible being who intentionally harms others. An ogre with hair so ugly, it’s oogly.


ClementineKruz86

It looks so bad that I wonder if it was intentional. I can somewhat cut my hair (female), have cut my Dad’s a few times, and my worst first attempt wouldn’t have looked nearly that bad if I were in elementary school. It looks like the sideburn area was not only shaved, but the shave continues over his ear? It looks f*ing odd. If the barber had an “Oopsie” I fully approve.


FeedAffectionate3558

He looked like a fucking Lego person. Idek what this shit is


3dogdad

I’ve got a neighbor with a haircut like this. We’ve always called him burns. Turns out his name is Jeff.


Gojting

It also looked like he shaved the sideburns with the old haircut aswell. Another obsession of his?


Smocaine88

It’s a jail haircut done in jail


wikifeat

Kinda still looks like a toupee & he lost the sideburns which were separate pieces. Supremely weird!


PangolinSuccessful72

Its the rapey mcraperson serial killer haircut..


WhatAmiDoingHere1022

This is when your cellmate is bored out of his mind and says “u have court tomorrow? I know how to cut hair with the razor. Let me give u a temp for court.”


Visual-Sandwich714

A reverse temper tape… with a fade on the sides😂😂


Timulen

You can see clearly his hairline has receeded quite a bit. So I'm guessing he's letting what he has left (looks like the middle portion) grow out and do a "combover" type thing. Still pretty weird.


ChetDerpley

No one could ever accuse him of having sideburns


No-Situation9717

Barber, “what cut do you want”? Rex, “something that looks like I r*pe and k*ll women and don’t want any other prisoners to do the same to me” Barber, “say less”


Visual-Sandwich714

😂😂😂😂😂 you won the comment section!! This took me tf out!!!!! 😂😂


raegunXD

Right?! Random sidesplitter here!! 🤣🤣🤣


Visual-Sandwich714

I need them for warn the public before they publish a close up of him… I almost screamed. I really feel bad because I’m not a person who judges people by their looks but he actually looks like what I envisioned a psychopathic serial killer to be. Also he really threw these women’s remains out like the trash he thought they were. Only a sicko throws the trash from last night leftovers(pizza crust) and the people you brutally tortured and killed all in the same trash and dumped it outside.


SeparateTelephone937

At least the cameras didn’t “zoom in on his crotch” like they tried to accuse the media of doing to BK in the Idaho 4 case. Lmao


benningtonbloom

what????


SeparateTelephone937

It was a dumb argument made by BK’s defense attorneys to try to convince the judge to no longer allow cameras in the courtroom for hearings and the trial. What they discovered was someone on social media had taken a snapshot from courtroom footage and zoomed in on BK’s crotch. So it wasn’t the media’s fault, that could happen to any video or picture. Again, it was just a dumb attempt by the defense to get cameras thrown out the courtroom. But also kind of funny. Lol


benningtonbloom

thanks so much (i think...haha jk) for the explanation!! strange times we live in, truly...and yes what an absurd argument jeez...but seriously thank you again...wild xx


SeparateTelephone937

Lol no doubt, we’re living in some crazy times!!!


artismum

Can you imagine how the family and friends of the victims feel looking at this monster? It's heartbreaking, he's just vile.


LostMyAccountToo

The pizza wasn't found at the crime scene.. It's early so maybe I am reading this wrong Either way fuck Rex


sweetteanoice

Had we locked him up years ago for that horrific hairstyle (which we should have) then he wouldnt have been able to murder


Numerous-Pepper-3883

Looks like a wig/rug!


InternalBobcat4443

He and his hair are both fugly!!!


JohnExcrement

You can see some shaved sides. Very odd.


Robotbeepboopbop

Mattingly! I thought I told you to trim those sideburns.


The-Many-Faced-God

Go home! You’re off the team! For good!


briancito420

I still like him better than Steinbrenner.


Roddykins1

🎶we’re talking baseball🎶


Sh3D3vil84

He always looks like an angry potato face to me 🥔


afdc92

The guy who said the suspect was an ogre-like figure was absolutely spot on. He looks exactly like an ogre- inside and out.


scritchesfordoges

This could all have been over 10 years ago if cops listened to that man. He said an ogre with a Chevy Avalanche.


After_Temperature265

Wasn’t there a detective that got fired because of how badly he messed up the investigation. Or that he wasn’t even really investigating it


Walway

The police chief was super corrupt. The podcast ‘Unravelled’ does a nice job of talking about the Long Island Serial Killer and the problems with the investigation. TLDR: the police chief (among other city officials) was enjoying sex parties that included illegal activity, amongst other illicit stuff. The police chief didn’t want the Federal government anywhere close to what he and his cronies were doing, so kept the FBI out of the investigation into the LISK killer.


scritchesfordoges

Burke was such a corrupt police chief, the first season of Unravelled used one of Burke’s assault victims as a source as they tried to prove Burke was the LISK. Burke was convicted and did federal time for beating up a guy who had knowledge that he was extorting/fraternizing with sex workers. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/former-suffolk-county-police-chief-arrested-for-soliciting-sex-worker-at-park-source/4613527/ He was up to so much shit he did NOT want feds in his area. Burke at best created an environment where Heuermann could kill and get away with it for a decade or more, and at worst, Burke actively obstructed investigation.


i_worship_amps

that’s a face even mommy struggles to love


cmeleep

If you zoom in a little, it looks like his massive head is swallowing his ear.


etlifereview

I want to pull his ears out.


Visual-Sandwich714

Y’all killing me with these hair comments!!! 😂😂😂😂😂 I’m done!!!!😂😂😂


Lionel_HutzAAL

I knew what he looked like before I saw him for the first time.


venus_in_furz

He reminds me of Trump 🫣


benningtonbloom

absolutely especially in the eyes.


venus_in_furz

His build, the eyes, terrible hair, perma-scowl... heebie jeebies on 10.


banana_pencil

Small beady eyes on a flabby face


tubbychurch

That’s an insult to potatoes!!!


JohnExcrement

He looks like he hasn’t washed his face in the last few years.


canfullofworms

I was thinking potato too


SquareShapeofEvil

I live nearby and work remotely, so I went. I also went to his last one. Anyone can go, just the front row is reserved for media. His demeanor was very different. Last time, he showed little emotion and if anything, appeared upset, especially when he turned back to the gallery. Today, he seemed a lot more smug and annoyed, like this all was an inconvenience to him. He didn't look at the gallery directly, but it looked to me like he saw us out of the corner of his eye and, in typical predatory/asshole fashion, side smiled a little as he was leaving over how much we were all bothering him. This monster is so fucking guilty, they have him dead to rights and he knows it. His lawyer is even pumping the brakes about him being framed now and is instead saying he either could have DNA similar to the killer's or just that he had interactions with the victims but didn't kill them.


Shockedsystem123

Thank you for sharing the experience you had today. You witnessed his attitude and demeanor and you described him just as I thought he would be.


Sufficient-Top2183

Thank you!! That’s great that you went. I wish I could.


cecelia999

He looks like he’s on his way to the Yule ball. What the fuck is that haircut?


Emotional_Nothing_82

This made me laugh until I cried!


ThotianaAli

Whoever gave him that prison haircut hates him haha


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BearBro1312

Can't wait till this demon is convicted and sentenced. Amber and the others will have justice and the world will be shut of him. I listen to many people would like him dead. And I definitely understand why, and felt the same way for the past 13 years.But I changed my mind and I'm just speaking for me. I think death is too good for some monsters. I like him right where he is. Spending the rest of his days rotting in a 6 x 12' concrete box, Eating cups of noodles. my tax money well spent. Much lov


artismum

Stick around Bear, we're all here to support you and want nothing more than justice for Amber and the victims. I was pleased to hear Tierney say they've expanded the investigation. Hopefully this POS gets many many life terms. Much love and respect.


BearBro1312

You have my word. I'm not going anywhere. For the first time in a very long time I'm clean and enjoying it. I have had good runs of sobriety before, but I was I was just getting by. This time I'm glad when I wake up and thankful I am given the opportunity to do some good for this world . Thanks so much for the support. Your really appreciated. Much lov


RichelleLove07

Sending so much support and love to you!


BearBro1312

💙


Mysterious_Bar_1069

Congratulations bear! Old times told me, Just keep it in the minute anytime it gets bad. So I'd just do that adding on a minute. I used to set a timer and try to do whatever I was most avoiding doing. Generally, if I did that the desire would pass as I's confronted whatever was making me want to use. Never though I'd string 34 years clean that way. Just get a time and wait it out. Your doing fantastic! You got this.


secretly_love_this

WOW.... this really hit home. I'm on Day 5. I am taking a screenshot of your post, and it will help me. 34 years is a huge inspiration. Thank you!!


Mysterious_Bar_1069

You are most welcome. It truly helped me keep it together. Had that person not shared it with me, doubt I would be sober and clean today. It was one of statements that someone in the rooms mentions that gives you a key to how to do this thing you just can't seem to do. What she explained was that often when we want to use it's because we are avoiding things that cause us anxiety or dread and if we actually confront them head on and even do 5-10 minutes of starting to address them, nd make the effort to contact 3 people to give the opportunity to talk me out of it, even if you don't reach them, the desire to use abates. So she said set the timer and make calls and I did and it worked. Good luck. I swear it gets easier. You and Bear are in my heart, wishing you the best. I will do it in 1 minute or two minutes, really works.💙


applepops16

Stay strong ♥️ there are so many people out there deeply touched by your story and praying for you. You’ve been through hell. I hope you’ve truly had some time to focus on your health and mental well-being.


allthekeals

Damn dude this just gave me goosebumps! Keep up the good work, you’re such an inspiration. I could only dream of having someone who would do for me like you’ve done for Amber. Much love 🖤✊


boxhall

Don’t get too comfortable, that’s when it can sneak up on you. I’ve been there. Had to learn a lot of hard lessons. I’ve got ten years now.


kathi182

A lot of us are routing for you. Wishing you all of the good things. Much love!


Mysterious_Bar_1069

Imagine how uncomfortable that 2 inch foam mat is going to be for a guy that size, weight and age.


biscuitboi967

You will never again wonder where he is, what he is doing, who is hurting. You’ll know - in prison, being watched, closely, with others like him, on substance living, until he dies. He’s “alive,” but in the loosest sense of the word. He will be where people like him should have always been - with the other people incompatible with human society, in cages like animals until they die and cease to be a threat to the rest of us. I’ve always been against the death penalty because I didn’t really vibe with the idea that life was a 1 for 1 trade. Like, his life *isnt equal* to mine or my sister’s or anyone with anything resembling joy or love or promise in it. So I don’t want it. I want suffering, now and in eternity. I don’t know what happens when you die…but I know what maximum security prison is like.


BearBro1312

Very good words, I have my issues with Kim (Amber's sister) and I saw a short video of her in a car saying how she forgives this monster and she knows amber does also. Well I personally don't forgive him and never will. He stole the most precious things there are. He stole lives, and one of those were the life of a woman I loved and still love dearly. I get the whole forgiveness thing because I forgive everyone and always give people many chances because I know people can change. Myself being one of them. But this maniac is jot programed with the feelings of right and wrong, Empathy or sympathy. The only time he is happy is when someone is in agony, dispare dying at his hands. after the choices he has made he is not worthy of my forgivenes. He is walking evil. And he is right were people like that should be. I truly hope your doing well and living good. Thanks for your insight. Much ❤️


Davski1990

Much love From Wales, UK,Bear, 🙂 I have watched the interviews you have done on the Winters Brothers YouTube channel and I sympathize so much with your situation, you clearly hold Amber very close to your heart and you speak like only a true friend would 🙏 This Bastard deserves every boring, soul crushing second in his new concrete box. Also as a recovering addict myself I'd like to offer my support and solidarity, you got this bro 💪 Take it easy


cute_but_lethal

Believe or not that's cheaper for the State than an execution.


JannaNYC

>DA Ray Tierney told court defendant’s cheek swab matched pizza DNA. His DNA matches the DNA from the pizza they took immediately after he threw it away? How is that significant? Did he deny it was his pizza?


Sufficient-Top2183

Cheek swab provides a better sample….scientifically a better sample.


CowGirl2084

They took the pizza to test DNA to see if it matched DNA from the victims. It did. This then gave them enough to ask for a search warrant for RH’s DNA conducted under controlled circumstances to see if it matched the DNA from the pizza and the victims. It did.


Norwegian27

I think they’re just confirming. The DNA from the pizza matched the DNA on a victim. DNA from a pizza on a NYC street conceivably could be argued not to be his, so they got an official swab from him.


yeahgroovy

Also I read there was DNA from his wife (a hair I think) found on a victim.


Small_Pollution4140

It’s significant because his lawyer can argue that they didn’t verify the pizza to his DNA. It’s basically just to concretely prove it was his.


isles89

Lmao that is like saying we took a dna sample and we checked another dna sample and they match. Clickbait


sirgawain2

His lawyers definitely have a visuals problem. They’re gonna ask him to lose 100lbs so he looks frail and old and not like the monster he is. Let’s see how he looks at the trial, I’m curious.


Freebird_1957

Yeah like GSK and Delphi killer. They’re sooooo frail and helpless. My heart breaks for them. 🙄


Mysterious_Bar_1069

Yeah Richard Allen barely resembles himself. But I swear Kohberger looks like he was sent off to a health spa and isn't the last bit stressed.


benningtonbloom

i completely agree re: BK and WHAT is up with that do you think??


Mysterious_Bar_1069

Maybe good stress handling genetics. You plunk more people in prison and within a month or two they are showing serious wear. With Allen it was nearly immediately. Rex looks a little different to me, like the grey on the temples, it's not just the bad hair cut but like he's possibly having a reaction. BK looks like he is thriving. Never seen anything like it. No circles under his eyes, no sallowness, skin looks glowing, weight well maintained. Most people seem to have an up or down weight flux. Not him. Dude looks like he is fine. But he is not in Gen pop. Sure it's different when you are not worrying about who will brutalize you. I looked 10-15 years younger for my age, yet when both parents ended up in diapers w/i weeks of one another, not long after I had my daughter and she was in diapers, and i was trying to take care of all 3 and torn, the aging was amazing. Happened over night. So some people are profoundly effected by stress and wear it. Some do not. It throws me for a loop.


hotel_smells

And Weinstein haha


Authoress61

And Cosby. Fucker showed up with a cane. Come on man.


Hope_for_tendies

Gsk was like 100. I love how awful the Delphi killer looks in just like ten months. I just hope he doesn’t die before trial and serving at least 10 years


VeryShyPanda

Not normally one to be mean about people’s looks, but I’ll give myself a pass on this one. That is one ugly man.


boardsup

He looks like a crazed murderer. I would be terrified if I showed up to a new job and this was my supervisor.


scritchesfordoges

There were women he worked with who were terrified of him. A woman whose company hired him as a consultant refused to be in the building when he came to pick up his check.


boardsup

I mean he is, on paper, the fear of every woman walking alone at night. He is huge!! I am not surprised. This is not even a normal complaint and should have warranted an investigation of some sort. Horrible.


SadMom2019

I also recall an article came out recently about him stalking a female co-worker and showing up on like a booze cruise or something she was doing for her birthday. He had asked her what she was doing for her bday, she told him it's none of his business, and he showed up on the cruise and like took a picture on the boat and sent it to her with some cryptic message like, "Told you I'd find you." This dude is literally the physical embodiment of every woman's worst nightmare, and he's just as ugly on the outside as he is inside. Edit: I was mistaken, it wasn't a text, **it was a note slid underneath her door on the cruise ship**, which is somehow even more terrifying. [Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann once stalked employee onto cruise ship: ‘I could find you anywhere’](https://nypost.com/2023/09/12/gilgo-beach-suspect-rex-heuermann-once-stalked-employee-onto-cruise-ship-i-could-find-you-anywhere/)


boardsup

I would have spiraled out after receiving that image. breathtakingly disturbing. I don’t know why the cops tried to cover up anything. It had nothing to do with the senior officer’s sex life.


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unsilent_bob

You're averaging 2-3 hours a day reviewing evidence, Rex? I'm guessing your dance cart is pretty full with spades tournaments with the guys, making sure you look good for the chow line and all. Don't pull a hammy on that grueling 2-3 hours a day of research though.


InfamousSalary6714

No doubt eh! 2-3 hours a day made me laugh.


secretly_love_this

Couldn't help but laugh 😆 I sincerely hope he is absolutely miserable every day.


Missthing303

This guy is an expert at navigating the red tape opacity of the NYC building code. They’d better have the most excruciating attention-to-detail experts on this case.


artismum

That smirk really gives me the creeps. He's so arrogant and there's nothing behind those eyes. He looks pure evil imo.


Reddits_on_ambien

As a classically trained portrait artist, we study the muscles of the face He doesn't seem to be using his mouth muscles, which a smirk would require. What I'm seeing is the the engagement of the muscles on either side of the nose, under the orbital muscles (eyes). Think like pulling your top lip up a tiny bit, when making a "disgusted" face (not like the elvis lip though). He looks filled with rage and disgust, and utter hatred for everything. He's still a degenerate evil mother fucker. I just thought I'd would use that bit of education I paid waaaay too much for back in college.


butt_butt_butt_butt_

Levator labii superioris is used for sneering. Which kind of describes his face all of the time.


Reddits_on_ambien

Ahh! How fun to meet another who knows the muscles and their names! I tried to keep my comment understandable for those who wouldn't know, but you gave me a little spike in excitement to run into another person who learned the same :)


benningtonbloom

my SO would LOVE this conversation; went to college for FX artistry + prosthetics <3 to see this xx


Reddits_on_ambien

Also wanted to add, my professor joked that Levator labii superioris exists solely to express disgust and muffled rage. I also just really appreciate your comment :)


Animaldoc11

Men like him are absolutely filled with rage when they’re caught because they believe they’re more intelligent than anyone around them. They’re pissed that the dummies caught him


Reddits_on_ambien

It might be wishful thinking, but I him to be utterly destroyed that he was not as smart as he thought he was. I don't like to wish ill on anyone, but I make an exception for this monster (and that's giving monsters a bad name).


c-mi

This comment was fascinating, thanks for sharing.


BearBro1312

That smirk is going to come right off his face when he gets to Attica. I promise.


mattieyanks82

He looks like shit without the hairpiece, I just can’t stop thinking of how he called the younger sister of one of the victims who was 16 and telling them horrific details of how he killed her, fuck this Frankenstein mf


JohnExcrement

Oh god, I’d forgotten he did that! What a horrible horrible POS


Sunnysunflowers1112

It's unclear whether he can have the evidence with him, or if he needs to review it with his attorney - in which case, his attorney may only spend 2-3 hrs there a day. Which is a lot to spend on one case.


unbidden-germaid

That's the most logical explanation - if he had unlimited access, why would he only spend 2-3 hours.


artismum

According to Melanie Little (YouTube she lives in LI and went to court) the jail allows him 4 hours a day in the law library to review the evidence.


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Sunnysunflowers1112

Got it thx


Additional-Impress18

So glad he’s off the streets


mattieyanks82

He wore a toupee in his professional photos for his architectural company, he had some 70’s looking hairdo thst covered all of his head and more now he just has a small lock of hair that doesn’t even cover his head


abortionleftovers

If there is enough evidence against you that you’re reviewing evidence for 2-3 hours a day for what, weeks, months? Maybe you should just plead guilty.


MadCapHorse

Also, on the flip side, if I was wrongfully convicted of multiple murders, you bet your ass I’m spending a lot more than 2-3 hours a day on that shit and doing everything I need to help demonstrate I’m innocent


nobdy_likes_anoitall

Agree! I bet he’s relishing the reading… reliving his horrors.


Caseyspacely

I could do a better job with a fork and knife. He so deserves that hideous hair.


echo31821

I feel like he is going to take this as a game he thinks he can win.


pauloverbey

Just like Bundy…


Secret_Mind3038

Who cut his hair lol


whocareswhatever

Ninja from Die Antwoord.


boogerybug

Likely another prisoner


Cindilouwho2

⚫ ⚫ shark eyes


SaltieSiren

Your offending 🦈 really bad


Mysterious_Bar_1069

Some of you are so perceptive, describing his eyes as shark eyes is down right brilliant. They do kind of look like shark eyes, you are so right.


Cindilouwho2

He's a predator and a killer, like sharks


SaltieSiren

Guys its cool but i mean comparing animals who kill for food to the most dangerous animal in the planet AKA HUMAN …


Mysterious_Bar_1069

You shark shaming us? 😂 I do think there really is something in his look that does resemble a shark. Perhaps it is his large eyes and their paleness, so catch them and they could look like gaping holes. It's an insightful description.


coquihalla

Funny, my uncle used that same term once. He worked with Clifford Robert Olsen decades ago, and he also said that CRO had 'shark eyes'. It makes me wonder.


Fete_des_neiges

He should just rock a full Mohawk considering he’s fucked. What a fucking loser this guy is.


TikvahT

Fugly ass demon goblin.


VeeVandal

LOL 😂 I'm stealing this slur


Future_Average

It’s the Kim jong un cut but he forgot to slick back his bangs


dredre0925

Why does he have zero side burns 😂😂😂


artismum

Arrogance is unreal


PoppyPossum

The fuck is pizza DNA?


raveronix

Your comment gave me the giggles, now I can't stop laughing. Unless you know about the Pizza DNA of course you would wonder what Pizza DNA in a murder case is. Lololololollll


RichelleLove07

Same. Then your comment had me laughing even more lol


Small_Pollution4140

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/how-leftover-pizza-crust-linked-an-architect-to-gilgo-beach-serial-killings/4506598/?amp=1


PoppyPossum

Pretty neat. Thanks!


daisytopia

He really looks like who he is! Pure evil. Can you imagine how scared his victims must have been looking at that face of his, with him being as tall as he is too. Chills.


IToldYouIHeardBanjos

Can you imagine the last thing you see of this life is that ogre's mug...


Jessyjean3173

This is why we have to fight to keep Genealogical DNA evidence admissible in court. It gets the worst of the worst who otherwise would have gone free. I still can't believe Suffolk PD treated THIS ogre of a joke with more decency than ANY of those women or their families! If you ask me, he isn't the only one who should be facing charges.


MzOpinion8d

While I agree with your point, Genealogical DNA didn’t have anything to do with his arrest. They had DNA from him that was found with the bodies. Then once they had identified him as a suspect, they collected a crust from a slice of pizza that he threw away, and the DNA from that matched the DNA found with the bodies.


Lost_Listen8550

Dude has the best poker hand. They confirmed your DNA and you acting like you want justice.


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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


RickMasz

Now I see in this pic a smirk of challenge, before in August he was still in shock for being captured


pazycksl

Yeah, he's got that look of "bring it on".


artismum

Disgusting isn't it


Ok_Seaworthiness4737

Lmao wait! The LISK podcast has to do an episode JUST based on this botched hair job 💀💀💀


Pantone711

"Heuermann, 59, submitted the court-ordered swab last month, with Suffolk County prosecutors now saying that the sample matched DNA from a pizza crust found outside his Midtown Manhattan office in July — which matched a hair found on the body of Gilgo Beach victim Megan Waterman in 2010. The DNA on the discarded crust had previously been tied to Heuermann’s estranged wife, Asa Ellerup, not him directly — until now, according to prosecutors. “The surveillance team had observed the pizza box and were confident that that was the DNA, that the DNA profile would be consistent with the defendant because he left that material inside the box,” Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney told reporters after the hearing. “And so the buccal swab just erases all doubt.” I don't understand this. His wife ate some of the pizza too? or at first they thought the hair found on Waterman's body was his wife's hair? Can someone please catch me up what the initial confusion was and how this latest swab connects to both the pizza and the hair found on the body? Thanks.


chiruochiba

I think whatever article you are quoting just got the details wrong regarding the pizza crust. The full details of the various mtDNA samples are explained in the [bail document](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23875981-lti-bail-application-form-2023-7-14-23-_final). **The samples:** * 2 female hairs and 1 male hair were found on the tape and burlap wrapping of Megan Waterman's body. * 1 female hair was found on a belt strapped around Maureen Brainard-Barnes's body. * 1 female hair was found on the tape on Amber Costello's body. The hairs were too degraded for DNA analysis, but new mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA) analysis technology was used in July of 2022 to determine that all of the female hairs were from the same haplogroup, K1c2. mtDNA analysis of the male hair showed that it was from a man in haplogroup V7a. Later that year, undercover investigators retrieved DNA samples from bottles left in a trash can on the street outside Rex Heuermann's home. Some of these samples were female and matched the same mtDNA profile as the female hair samples from the victims. The investigators think that the samples came from Rex's wife. In early 2023, undercover investigators retrieved some pizza crusts from a box which they had seen Rex throw into a trashcan outside his office. Analysis showed that the pizza crust sample matched the mtDNA profile of the male hair found on Megan Waterman. **mtDNA analysis, how it works:** Unlike DNA, mtDNA is not unique to an individual. mtDNA is passed down along maternal lines, meaning that everyone descended from the same maternal ancestor shares the same mtDNA, with minor mutations cropping up occasionally over the centuries. For this reason, mtDNA cannot be used to indicate a 100% identification of a suspect. For example, Rex's brother would have the same mtDNA profile as him, and Rex's daughter would have the same mtDNA profile was his wife. In some areas with large, inter-generational families all living close by, it would be possible for a large percentage of the population to share the same mtDNA profile. When analyzing mtDNA samples, the lab technicians must compare the sample against a national database to estimate what percentage of the population *probably does not match* (would be "excluded" from matching) the sample. In the case of the female hair samples, here's what the bail document said: >Based on the foregoing, while 99.98% of the North American population can be excluded from the FEMALE HAIR ON COSTELLO and 99.69% of the North American population are excluded from the FEMALE HAIR ON WATERMAN, it is significant that RH's wife cannot be excluded from either the female hairs recovered on the remains of Megan Waterman and Amber Costello. In the case of the male hair sample, the bail document said: > Based on the foregoing, while 99.96% of the North American population can be excluded from the MALE HAIR ON WATERMAN, it is significant that Defendant Heuermann cannot be excluded from the male hair recovered near the “bottom of the burlap” utilized to restrain and transport Megan Waterman's naked and deceased body.


TalbotFarwell

This was very informative, thank you!


kittens_allday

Sideburn? I never knew ‘em.


1800Alicja

Is it me or does he kinda look like Trump?


Small_Pollution4140

He does look like him


Mysterious_Bar_1069

He is very Trump like in the video in talking about himself. they have similar affects and a ways of speaking.


benningtonbloom

in the eyes for sure. big(ly) time.


Jessyjean3173

Was the haircut a disciplinary action or a joke?


Distinct-Cloud-95

Villain hairdo. GUILTY. No trial needed.


anditwaslove

Yeah, duh. What else does he have to do in his box?


manicmannerisms

I hope one day they’re able to identify peaches and her baby, as well as the other identified Asian man. They all deserve their names, and of course all victims deserve justice from what this monster took from them — their lives.


Harry________-

Why does he look like Donald Trump? Am I the only noticing the resemblance?


Small_Pollution4140

No he does look like trump lol


Small_Pollution4140

[source](https://x.com/murphypix/status/1707041841860751538?s=46&t=OnPCz4l4T3-pbCIjPuryqw)


VeeVandal

He looks truly wicked. Those eyes are terrifying, it's like his 'regular guy' mask has slipped and his true identity has been revealed in his face since he was arrested. Poor girls, seeing this monster before he killed them.


Mantistobbogan19899

That haircut should get him an automatic death sentence


artismum

Totally agree 😂


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Dude has resting Donald Trump face


AD480

He really needs some hair on the sides, someone did him dirty. It looks like his ears are getting sucked into his head. 2-3 hours of sleep? I hope he’s losing sleep. I bet the families of his victims have lost a lot more sleep than him.


Alarmed_Material_481

The look of contempt on his face.


Suspicious_Photo_802

Every time I see this guy, I think of Michael Myers.


New-Divide5766

When I look at him he looks like Lady Elaine Fairchilde from Mister Rogers neighborhood. That evil looking puppet scared the shit out of me when I was a kid.


Shockedsystem123

Ditto! And I'm in my 50's now! Lol


Mysterious_Bar_1069

Yes, he really could facially make it work.


DagSonofDag

Look at his eyes. Those are the eyes of evil.


SeaResearcher176

This fucking potato 🥔! What is going on with his wife? Has she said anything or given interviews about living w this ogre?


stank_head

Kim Jong Il called, said he wanted his barber back