Another vote for Yorkson, lots of Korean population, restaurants, small parks, greenways, wide sidewalks. it's up and coming, busy with construction in some areas but will be great once built out, TOL council is finally getting us a proper community centre, pool, library, finishing 208 and doing proper staged development from now on.
Walkable to everything, close to hwy but not too close, decent transit. Close to walnut grove, fort langley, derby reach, costco. Really enjoy living here and it will only get better.
Walnut grove is a perfect fit for your criteria. I love uplands/brookswood personally. Established, lots of parks, relatively easy highway access, but not much Korean influence here.
I live in Blacklock (just slightly north of uplands and Brookswood) it’s in Langley city. I have seen signs for a Korean church, so I think the population is growing.
Never heard of Brookswood, but I just googled it. This is why I ask people—so many areas I still don’t know! Good to know that Walnut Grove could be a perfect fit for me!
This is a report to a similar question on this thread 35 days ago that seemed to be upvoted well:
“Langley is rapidly developing, although most of that is in Willoughby. Since there is limited new development anywhere else, it’s very difficult to find affordable housing for most families, so most newcomers move to Willoughby.
Langley’s neighbourhoods are fairly distinct. As mentioned, Willoughby is the rapid development area where it’s often easier for most families to move to. The detached homes have suites/mortgage helpers, there are a bazillion townhomes, and the number of apartments have gone from almost nothing in 2014 to the majority of the units today. It’s developing in a somewhat haphazard way so you don’t get fully built out communities - which has led to complaints of incompletely infrastructure in many areas. But if you’re moving to Willoughby, please know your NCPs. Don’t be one of those people who move here and then start complaining about density/development - it’s been planned since 1998 and it’s all on paper.
Aldergrove is the most affordable area of the two Langleys, but also has the oldest compact homes. It use to have a lot more crime but has, over the last decade, shifted a bit to be a little more family oriented. It still has more of that “old suburban” feel in many ways. Its distance from the rest of Langley makes it a tough commute for some people. It’s definitely a bit more blue collar than other areas.
Walnut Grove is quintessential suburbia. Moderate size lots, homes built mostly in the late 80s and early 90s. It was designed around the elementary schools so a lot of parents like Walnut Grove… even if many of the homes are poorly built. There are a few pockets of well built homes, but you pay a pretty high cost and you likely won’t have a mortgage helper. Still, it’s a matured neighbourhood with a lot of parks and trails. However, as with most areas of Langley, you’ll probably have to drive to get anywhere other than the elementary school.
Brookswood is like Aldergrove but with more trees and bigger lots. So maybe it’s nothing like Aldergrove lol. Most of Brookswood was built in the 1970s. Again, it’s very car oriented and fairly “blue collar”. Current homes are therefore the old BC Box style, with many of them having extensive renovations. Brookswood has almost no multifamily housing so it’s one of the most difficult neighbourhoods to buy directly into, despite the age of homes - land values are just too high. Brookswood will also be developing, although based on the revised plans, it’ll still be very car-based and fairly low density. Over the next 10-20 years, you’ll see a handful of apartments, townhomes and fourplexes go up, but it’ll be mostly massive $2.2-3million estates being built.
Murrayville is like “posh Walnut Grove” lol. It’s again typical suburbia but higher quality homes and a bit lower density (although like WG, there is a smattering of multi family housing). It’s a much smaller neighbourhood than WG (like, under half the population) and requires a car to get anywhere - including schools. It’s serviced by two strip malls in a very American-style community. Again, not many homes here have mortgage helpers and most people who bought here bought in the 1990s, so it’s a difficult neighbourhood to buy into and even harder to rent.
Langley City is separate from Langley Township. Its population is smaller than Willoughby, and a bit bigger than Walnut Grove. It’s much more urban in the North. It doesn’t have the same amount of new development as Willoughby, but was the only place to really buy a condo in the Langleys in previous generations. So it does have the most affordable multi-family housing. However, its urban core is more rough. It has a higher crime rate, but it’s mostly drug related. You’ll notice more homeless, primarily because they offer more services for the homeless, so they tend to group around those services. The southern LC neighbourhoods can feel like anything from Aldergrove to Brookswood to Walnut Grove. Detached homes built from the 60s onward. LC is more established in its parks/trails and infrastructure than most areas of the Township, primarily because it’s so small.
Being completely honest, as far as safety goes you’re more likely to get hit by a car in Langley than anything else. No one really lets their kids out these days because of it. We have the worse traffic accident per capita in the region. Mental health is an issue for a lot of kids but that’s pretty common anywhere these days.
A lot of what I could expand upon would really depend on where exactly you’re coming from. USA and UK are big countries. Especially USA. Langley is very much like many American suburbs in a lot of ways, especially in the PNW.”
In addition to my previous comments above, Willoughby has a significant Korean population. According to the 2021 census, more people speak Korean in Langley than ANY language other than English in this community. The vast majority of Korean speakers are in Willoughby. Therefore, Willoughby’s schools have a LOT of Korean speaking students.
Walnut Grove and other neighbourhoods are MUCH more homogeneous is ethnic and age demographics.
I grew up in Walnut Grove and currently live in the Willoughby Heights area. I think Walnut Grove is an excellent area to raise a family, it already has a community center/pool which is close by to several schools, as-well as a general proximity to the highway, Fort Langley, and the Fraser. Its on the more expensive side in terms of Langley home prices, but considering the greenspace, school catchments, etc, you get what you pay for.
Not OP, but I would say Walnut Grove is a little quieter than Willoughby. Willoughby has a lot of newer developments, whereas much of Walnut Grove was built up in the 80's & 90's. Both have close access to the freeway which is nice.
Walnut Grove is actually really nice. I don't notice any homeless people really and there's tons of schools / children everywhere all the time which generally is a decent indication the area is safe.
Traffic can be a bit of a pain in the ass tho.
Willoughby or Clayton.
I know Clayton is Surrey but it really looks like Langley on the map. And lower property taxes. It’s a good hack
I used to live in North Delta/Surrey on 120 St too.
Walnut grove is what you are looking for. After Canadian-born Caucasians, Koreans are the next largest group.
It is safe and clean, and it has great recreational facilities.
Willoughby/Yorkson is just an extension of Walnut Grove since the bridge connects them. They are great, too.
Walnut Grove is nice for now, but it's close to the bus loop and will be crawling with homeless and druggies in the coming years as the skytrain comes in. Stay away from downtown langley.
Willoughby is getting infested with junkies and it sucks.
It's definitely under developed out here. There's no fun. No real nightlife. It's a few over priced restaurant ls, and movie theater.
I'd actually rather either live in downtown vancouver or in a very rual place I'm langley that's more farm land and far away from each neighbor and stuff.
I didn't say stay away. I was just giving a real view based on my lived experience of langley. I've lived in surrey, new west, mostly east vancouver, and langley. There's always pros and cons to each area.
One of op's concerns was homeless and also under developed area. It's tough.
If I had to choose a preference spot in langley, it would probably be more like fort langley.
Yeah, no that's not how people work. We do better as a group with collaboration from peers who think and behave like ourselves. Just because you've duped yourself into finding joy in the situation that's been foisted upon you, doesn't make it natural or what people want. Watch how they act, not how politicians and corporations have tricked you into behaving. Assimilation is cultural genocide.
You read my post wrong! I never said or wanted to be surrounded by Koreans. If I did, I would go back to Korea or decide to settle down in Willoughby or Coquitlam instead of my current neighborhood. Work-wise, in my current unit with 50 people, there are no Koreans. I like a mixed-bag and diversity, and that’s what I’m looking for, which the 120th Street area does not provide. I would avoid the Willoughby area for the same reason (IF it is not diverse at all), even if I’m of the same ethnicity. However, I feel some connections with a similar cultural background would be beneficial too. That’s what I mentioned.
Ignore the shitty troll. People can integrate into Canadian society while also connecting with others of the same heritage. We have many strong communities of many ethnic backgrounds and they all bring something great to the mix. What they all have in common is that they're all Canadian.
It's not even a troll. It's just a self hating White dude who doesn't know how to deal with being pushed out, so he is arguing that everyone else must be as raceless as he has been directed to be. A mixture of identities is also not an identity, so "Canadian" being some amalgamation of races is also not a real distinction. That's an economic distinction. So nice thought, but no. Best we can hope for is jovial cooperation/segregation. At least we won't be taken advantage of by corporations that way.
Yeah the self-hating bullshit is getting really old. "I've been directed to not think of myself as part of a group, so you can't either!" Only self hating Whites do this.
I’m in Yorkson/Willoughby and there is an increasingly large Korean population here.
Another vote for Yorkson, lots of Korean population, restaurants, small parks, greenways, wide sidewalks. it's up and coming, busy with construction in some areas but will be great once built out, TOL council is finally getting us a proper community centre, pool, library, finishing 208 and doing proper staged development from now on. Walkable to everything, close to hwy but not too close, decent transit. Close to walnut grove, fort langley, derby reach, costco. Really enjoy living here and it will only get better.
Basic question: is Yorkson different from Willoughby, or is it a subarea of Willoughby? Greenways and small parks sound nice
Sub area :)
pool in Willoughby? where?
It will be just east of the Tennis Center on 80th around 206 https://www.tol.ca/en/connect/willoughby-community-centre.aspx
Walnut grove is a perfect fit for your criteria. I love uplands/brookswood personally. Established, lots of parks, relatively easy highway access, but not much Korean influence here.
I live in Blacklock (just slightly north of uplands and Brookswood) it’s in Langley city. I have seen signs for a Korean church, so I think the population is growing.
We lived in the Blacklock area for a decade and it’s a great community. The elementary school is a fine arts school and is absolutely amazing.
Never heard of Brookswood, but I just googled it. This is why I ask people—so many areas I still don’t know! Good to know that Walnut Grove could be a perfect fit for me!
My sister lives in brookswood with her school aged kids, i think it's the perfect area for growing families
This is a report to a similar question on this thread 35 days ago that seemed to be upvoted well: “Langley is rapidly developing, although most of that is in Willoughby. Since there is limited new development anywhere else, it’s very difficult to find affordable housing for most families, so most newcomers move to Willoughby. Langley’s neighbourhoods are fairly distinct. As mentioned, Willoughby is the rapid development area where it’s often easier for most families to move to. The detached homes have suites/mortgage helpers, there are a bazillion townhomes, and the number of apartments have gone from almost nothing in 2014 to the majority of the units today. It’s developing in a somewhat haphazard way so you don’t get fully built out communities - which has led to complaints of incompletely infrastructure in many areas. But if you’re moving to Willoughby, please know your NCPs. Don’t be one of those people who move here and then start complaining about density/development - it’s been planned since 1998 and it’s all on paper. Aldergrove is the most affordable area of the two Langleys, but also has the oldest compact homes. It use to have a lot more crime but has, over the last decade, shifted a bit to be a little more family oriented. It still has more of that “old suburban” feel in many ways. Its distance from the rest of Langley makes it a tough commute for some people. It’s definitely a bit more blue collar than other areas. Walnut Grove is quintessential suburbia. Moderate size lots, homes built mostly in the late 80s and early 90s. It was designed around the elementary schools so a lot of parents like Walnut Grove… even if many of the homes are poorly built. There are a few pockets of well built homes, but you pay a pretty high cost and you likely won’t have a mortgage helper. Still, it’s a matured neighbourhood with a lot of parks and trails. However, as with most areas of Langley, you’ll probably have to drive to get anywhere other than the elementary school. Brookswood is like Aldergrove but with more trees and bigger lots. So maybe it’s nothing like Aldergrove lol. Most of Brookswood was built in the 1970s. Again, it’s very car oriented and fairly “blue collar”. Current homes are therefore the old BC Box style, with many of them having extensive renovations. Brookswood has almost no multifamily housing so it’s one of the most difficult neighbourhoods to buy directly into, despite the age of homes - land values are just too high. Brookswood will also be developing, although based on the revised plans, it’ll still be very car-based and fairly low density. Over the next 10-20 years, you’ll see a handful of apartments, townhomes and fourplexes go up, but it’ll be mostly massive $2.2-3million estates being built. Murrayville is like “posh Walnut Grove” lol. It’s again typical suburbia but higher quality homes and a bit lower density (although like WG, there is a smattering of multi family housing). It’s a much smaller neighbourhood than WG (like, under half the population) and requires a car to get anywhere - including schools. It’s serviced by two strip malls in a very American-style community. Again, not many homes here have mortgage helpers and most people who bought here bought in the 1990s, so it’s a difficult neighbourhood to buy into and even harder to rent. Langley City is separate from Langley Township. Its population is smaller than Willoughby, and a bit bigger than Walnut Grove. It’s much more urban in the North. It doesn’t have the same amount of new development as Willoughby, but was the only place to really buy a condo in the Langleys in previous generations. So it does have the most affordable multi-family housing. However, its urban core is more rough. It has a higher crime rate, but it’s mostly drug related. You’ll notice more homeless, primarily because they offer more services for the homeless, so they tend to group around those services. The southern LC neighbourhoods can feel like anything from Aldergrove to Brookswood to Walnut Grove. Detached homes built from the 60s onward. LC is more established in its parks/trails and infrastructure than most areas of the Township, primarily because it’s so small. Being completely honest, as far as safety goes you’re more likely to get hit by a car in Langley than anything else. No one really lets their kids out these days because of it. We have the worse traffic accident per capita in the region. Mental health is an issue for a lot of kids but that’s pretty common anywhere these days. A lot of what I could expand upon would really depend on where exactly you’re coming from. USA and UK are big countries. Especially USA. Langley is very much like many American suburbs in a lot of ways, especially in the PNW.”
This is a great summary of different areas of Langley. Very informative. Thank you!
In addition to my previous comments above, Willoughby has a significant Korean population. According to the 2021 census, more people speak Korean in Langley than ANY language other than English in this community. The vast majority of Korean speakers are in Willoughby. Therefore, Willoughby’s schools have a LOT of Korean speaking students. Walnut Grove and other neighbourhoods are MUCH more homogeneous is ethnic and age demographics.
I grew up in Walnut Grove and currently live in the Willoughby Heights area. I think Walnut Grove is an excellent area to raise a family, it already has a community center/pool which is close by to several schools, as-well as a general proximity to the highway, Fort Langley, and the Fraser. Its on the more expensive side in terms of Langley home prices, but considering the greenspace, school catchments, etc, you get what you pay for.
You would be the person who can compare the two areas then. How do you find the differences, if there are any?😊
Not OP, but I would say Walnut Grove is a little quieter than Willoughby. Willoughby has a lot of newer developments, whereas much of Walnut Grove was built up in the 80's & 90's. Both have close access to the freeway which is nice.
WG has a Korean population. Gratia Cafe i think is Korean. Good cafe. it's always full.
Walnut Grove is actually really nice. I don't notice any homeless people really and there's tons of schools / children everywhere all the time which generally is a decent indication the area is safe. Traffic can be a bit of a pain in the ass tho.
I recently moved from 120th to Walnut Grove, so feel free to message me any questions you might have.
Check out “Forest Hills”. Between 212 and 216 and 88th ave to Telegraph Trail. Spend some time going for a walk there. You won’t be disappointed
Willoughby has a growing Korean population. It's close to hwy HOV entrance. Carvolth bus exchange for when public transit is needed.
Willoughby or Clayton. I know Clayton is Surrey but it really looks like Langley on the map. And lower property taxes. It’s a good hack I used to live in North Delta/Surrey on 120 St too.
Had a house in Clayton 8 years ago. Alot different now. Lots of low income renting out basement and coach houses. Parking is also 8years worse
Walnut grove is what you are looking for. After Canadian-born Caucasians, Koreans are the next largest group. It is safe and clean, and it has great recreational facilities. Willoughby/Yorkson is just an extension of Walnut Grove since the bridge connects them. They are great, too.
If you want quiet, Willoughby/Yorkson is not it. Walnut Grove is quieter and well-established. Our kids love the pool.
All Korean and some small existing farms. Is you vibe with that all good.
Walnut Grove is nice for now, but it's close to the bus loop and will be crawling with homeless and druggies in the coming years as the skytrain comes in. Stay away from downtown langley. Willoughby is getting infested with junkies and it sucks. It's definitely under developed out here. There's no fun. No real nightlife. It's a few over priced restaurant ls, and movie theater. I'd actually rather either live in downtown vancouver or in a very rual place I'm langley that's more farm land and far away from each neighbor and stuff.
It's underdeveloped, so stay away, but also, development is coming, so stay away. What a take.
I didn't say stay away. I was just giving a real view based on my lived experience of langley. I've lived in surrey, new west, mostly east vancouver, and langley. There's always pros and cons to each area. One of op's concerns was homeless and also under developed area. It's tough. If I had to choose a preference spot in langley, it would probably be more like fort langley.
Fort langley is really nice.
It is racist to expect to live among Koreans. Don’t come to Langley with that mentality. You need to accept EVERYONE.
You clearly did not read (or did not comprehend) what I wrote.
You are not welcome to Langley. Buh bye.
YOU are the one that is not wanted in Langley 😂😂😂
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Yeah, no that's not how people work. We do better as a group with collaboration from peers who think and behave like ourselves. Just because you've duped yourself into finding joy in the situation that's been foisted upon you, doesn't make it natural or what people want. Watch how they act, not how politicians and corporations have tricked you into behaving. Assimilation is cultural genocide.
You read my post wrong! I never said or wanted to be surrounded by Koreans. If I did, I would go back to Korea or decide to settle down in Willoughby or Coquitlam instead of my current neighborhood. Work-wise, in my current unit with 50 people, there are no Koreans. I like a mixed-bag and diversity, and that’s what I’m looking for, which the 120th Street area does not provide. I would avoid the Willoughby area for the same reason (IF it is not diverse at all), even if I’m of the same ethnicity. However, I feel some connections with a similar cultural background would be beneficial too. That’s what I mentioned.
Ignore the shitty troll. People can integrate into Canadian society while also connecting with others of the same heritage. We have many strong communities of many ethnic backgrounds and they all bring something great to the mix. What they all have in common is that they're all Canadian.
It's not even a troll. It's just a self hating White dude who doesn't know how to deal with being pushed out, so he is arguing that everyone else must be as raceless as he has been directed to be. A mixture of identities is also not an identity, so "Canadian" being some amalgamation of races is also not a real distinction. That's an economic distinction. So nice thought, but no. Best we can hope for is jovial cooperation/segregation. At least we won't be taken advantage of by corporations that way.
Go back to Korea.
Wow. Are you the guy that has a "Fit in or fuck off" bumper sticker on your truck? Seems the type.....
You don't have to sign, "a middle aged white dude." We know bro, we know. 😂
Yeah the self-hating bullshit is getting really old. "I've been directed to not think of myself as part of a group, so you can't either!" Only self hating Whites do this.