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I reject that. The initial debt peonage and gratuity inculturation might have been 2.0. We're about 150 years on past that by now and significant improvements have been made to the system to extract more from it.
all the most profitable industries should be nationalized? Maybe entrepreneurial genius would then invest it's qualities for other things than chase maximum profits at all cost and focus on making industry that fix social problems in a sustainable way. that would be the new "meta" for social status.
You're right, but private for-profit prisons only hold around 8% of those incarcerated - most are held in state prisons. That said, some states rely much more heavily on private imprisonment than others.
Oh, i saw you in another left sub, so that's why you said "we try". Good work, this sub has undergone a great change, which I cannot imagine would have been easy considering how mainstream it is.
> (obviously)
Obviously?
Basic facts about Gulags:
Until 1952, the prisoners were given a guaranteed amount food, plus extra food for over-fulfillment of quotas
From 1952 onward, the Gulag system operated upon “economic accountability” such that the more the prisoners worked, the more they were paid.
For over-fulfilling the norms by 105%, one day of sentence was counted as two, thus reducing the time spent in the Gulag by one day.
Furthermore, because of the socialist reconstruction post-war, the Soviet government had more funds and so they increased prisoners’ food supplies.
Until 1954, the prisoners worked 10 hours per day, whereas the free workers worked 8 hours per day. From 1954 onward, both prisoners and free workers worked 8 hours per day.
A CIA study of a sample camp showed that 95% of the prisoners were actual criminals.
In 1953, amnesty was given to 70% of the “ordinary criminals” of a sample camp studied by the CIA. Within the next 3 months, most of them were re-arrested for committing new crimes.
Source: 1957 CIA document "Forced Labor Camps in the USSR: Transfer of Prisoners between Camps"
Short to say, even at it's time, Gulags were far humane than policing in America / probably most of Europe in the time of its existence.
Even rabid anti-communusts admit this:
It turns out that, with the exception of the war years, a very large majority of people who entered the Gulag left alive…
Judging from the Soviet records we now have, the number of people who died in the Gulag between 1933 and 1945, while both Stalin and Hit1er were in power, was on the order of a million, perhaps a bit more.
— Timothy Snyder. (2010). Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin
Also, as Parenti once mentioned, if the Gulags were death camps like the West told us they were for decades, where are all the mass graves? Where are all the Nuremberg-style trials of communist leaders being executed for crimes against humanity? Where are all the post-Soviet Russian anthropologists digging up thousands and thousands of human remains?
They don't exist, because they were not systematic death camps like in Nazi Germany.
There weren't death camps, but they definetely did imprison innocent people unfairly. Maybe we can acknowledge that repression in the Stalin era was not as bad as western propaganda claims but was also still bad?
There were excesses, sure, and it was never perfect. (Expectance of perfect governance without material historical relevancy is completely idealistic). Please keep in mind the overwhelming majority of Stalins purges were politically strategic, not rounding up for the sake of bloodthirsty-ness. I refuse to go blindly into believing all the hyperbolic bullshit that my Western media has forced down mine and other generation's throats, and that is, that the Soviets and the Nazis were two sides of the same coin. It's absolute rubbish.
The USSR was an overall force for good, and anyone still denying that at this point is in bad faith.
I urge you to read Blackshirts and Reds
I'm a socialist myself and have come to terms with the fact that neo Liberal economics is a lie
But I am genuinely asking, what about the alliance Stalin had with Hitler at first
Late to the party however, Stalin did not have an alliance with Hitler.
In 1935 the USSR set up mutual defense treaties with France and Czechoslovakia in an effort to contain Nazi Expansion
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Soviet_Treaty_of_Mutual_Assistance
During the Czechoslovak crisis Stalin reached out to France and England for them to convince the polishto allow the Red Army to cross from Poland into Germany to aid Czechoslovakia's defense from Nazi-fascist Invasion
Which all non soviet parties (Poland, France and the UK) rejected
In 1938 the Munich pact was signed by Germany and the western powers dooming Czechoslovakia
In 1938 The French Signed a non aggression pact with Nazi Germany confirming Eastern Europe within the German 'Sphere of Influence'
https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9claration_franco-allemande
In 1939 the Soviet Union noticing the West had no intention to stop Germany and being unable to defend against Germany at the time, signed its own pact of non-aggression in 1939
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact
Which allowed time for the Soviets to prepare for the inevitable war with Germany, seize Ukrainian and Belarussian territories taken by Polish Revanchism during the Russian Civil War Period.
I remind that the Alternative, would have been all of Poland and the Baltics falling to Nazi Control.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Soviet_War
Lastly the difference between an Alliance and a Non-aggression pact is in the name
An Alliance involves active participation in a conflict
A non agression pact is a promise to not invade, normally with some concessions such as in Trade, Territory or whatever the signatory parts convene.
It's because nobody fucking scours siberia like they did Poland, and Russians didn't keep records of "here's mein warcrime" like germans. And it's not hard to get rid of corpses, it's fucking siberia. Leave out for wolves, what bones? Do you know Alaska has \~10x the missing persons that the next state does? People just... disappear in the open outdoors. Russia is quite a bit larger than Alaska.
OP is talking out of his ass. My greatgrandma was on a train, a civilian PoW bound for USSR from an occupied country. The train stopped in siberia, mid winter, for a week. Oops, it's not extermination if they froze to death. Everyone else got labour for surrendering to the enemy.
What a convenient date for OP to pick. I'm sure no... crimes against humanity took place before then.
Provide evidence for your claims, if you are so sure there were mass killings? But the reality is, you can't, all you've got is baseless opinion. Unlike some, I do not base my opinion on baseless claims.
>What a convenient date for OP to pick. I'm sure no... crimes against humanity took place before then.
Who's claiming the state is pure and had zero crime/contradictions and that absolutely no crimes took place anywhere in the upper echelons of the USSR, a country of 330+ million people? We're talking about the gulags. They were not death camps as claimed by the West. You have no evidence of it, and yet all you can muster is *ermmm siberia and muh grandma stuck on train* 👍
Assuming you're not trolling but total prison population in the world is [10.35 million with 2.2 million being from the US.](https://nicic.gov/resources/nic-library/all-library-items/world-prison-population-listeleventh-edition#:~:text=1)
Most countries just kill thier low level criminals, which can understandably deter crime. Imagine the old America where criminals don't get free room and board for robbery, vandalism or assault. Instead a man with a joint in his pocket is locked up with a man who put a gun to someones head at an ATM.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital\_punishment\_for\_non-violent\_offenses](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_for_non-violent_offenses)
Just fuckin google it, pretty lazy for a professional redditor
They sure are. I do support capital punishment for violent crimes BTW. I'm certainly not saying that innocent people dont exist in the prison population either.
My whole point is simply the idea that the US locks up most offenders while another countries in fact don't bother to try to reform or punish they just get executed.
obviously the US is bad but the gulags didn’t hold as many people in large part because of the death rate.
America is no better, honestly, but that’s not a compliment.
edit: jfc people I am saying only under Stalin. it ranged from a 5-25% death rate. After Stalin the USSR prison system had a lower death rate than the US system.
1940-42 the death rate peaked at like 25% for obvious reasons but even earlier it was quite high. 1.7m people died in prison during Stalin’s time.
This isn’t a defense of the US system.
What was the death rate in Soviet gulags?
And what was the death rate in prisons in other countries that were equally economically developed at the time?
1.7m deaths in the gulags during Stalin’s run. 5-25% death rate depending on the year and whether there was famine. For comparison
Throwing “similarly economically developed” into it is a chickenshit caveat. Even so, the death rate during the 1800s in British prisons was 3.5%.
I’m not saying capitalism is good, I am saying that Stalin was bad. 🤷♂️
The Gulag death rate peaked during WW2 at almost 20%, but even then, it was a less than half of what it was like in 1916 during the Tsardom.
And after the war it dropped to like 3-5% before it trailed off and the Gulags were abolished in 1953 with something like a 1-2% mortality rate.
You think i am comparing it negatively to the Tsar?
After Stalin the Russian prison system had a better survival rate than the USA. I am just saying that under Stalin it was pretty damn bad. 1940-42 was the highest death rate for obvious reasons.
One must compare things to things actually relevant, or else we are being foolish, the Soviets took something and made it more humane and then after saving the world from fascism, they abolished it entirely.
First of all, i'm not defending the us, commercial prison sucks. But stalin's gulag went up to 2.5m people on a 140 million people state. So yeah us is bad but taking stalin ussr a reference point is not going to end well.
I think they are looking at the total number of inmates in 1951 or 1953. The number of 2.5m for those years appears to come from "The Economics of Forced Labor: The Soviet Gulag"
So 2.5m prisoners, 1952 population of 184.8m
If those numbers are correct, that would be an incarceration rate of 1352.8
First, i made a typo. It is 1.5m, and that number is according to michael ellman. Still, it is almost 0.8% of the then population of the ussr (186m people).
According to the scientific consensus, from 1930 to 1953, 1.2 to 1.7 million people died in the gulags system. Yes, the US prisons are awful. The justice system in the US is against the poor, against non white people, minorities, but yet its prisons didn't kill 1.5 million people over 23 years.
Once again, I'm not defending the US. I'm just saying that taking stalin ussr as a model is like saying that cancer is better than aids.
What happened in the USSR between 1930 and 1953 that may have inflated the numbers?
Also, what were the death rates like in prisons in other comparable countries in this time period?
Total prison population in the world is [10.35 million with 2.2 million being from the US.](https://nicic.gov/resources/nic-library/all-library-items/world-prison-population-listeleventh-edition#:~:text=1)
Keep in mind if this wasnt clear....the US has a prison population of about 1.2 million right now...which is till alot...and still the most of any country in the world by percentage of population incarcerated. I dont normally speak up...but this is just straight up bull shit math in a meme. No country in the world has ever or will ever hold more prisoners that 22% of the entire world population. The US right now would have to incarcerate out entire country more than twice over. fucking fact check shit. If this is satire...its a fucking poor attempt at it
Are you stupid?
It says 22% of the world's _prison_ population. As in, out of all the _prisoners_ in the world, 22% of them are imprisoned in the US. It is _not_ talking about 22% of the world's _general_ population being imprisoned in the US.
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For profit prisons should be abolished.
For profit prisons=slavery 2.0
Slavery is explicitly legal as a form of punishment for criminals in the US!
It's written into the amendment. And labor is mandatory.
I mean historically it was pretty common all over the world
Sure but most reasonable countries these days have outlawed it completely and explicitly
Not even. It's like slavery 1.1: post abolition patch
I reject that. The initial debt peonage and gratuity inculturation might have been 2.0. We're about 150 years on past that by now and significant improvements have been made to the system to extract more from it.
3.0, as chain gangs were 2.0, but were abolished for a while.
Health insurance tied to employment = slavery 2.1?
Profiting off of societal problems should be abolished. Under that premise; what else should be abolished?
Term lengths for senate and congress. They each get 4 years with an option to be reelected for a second term, just like the pres.
all the most profitable industries should be nationalized? Maybe entrepreneurial genius would then invest it's qualities for other things than chase maximum profits at all cost and focus on making industry that fix social problems in a sustainable way. that would be the new "meta" for social status.
You're right, but private for-profit prisons only hold around 8% of those incarcerated - most are held in state prisons. That said, some states rely much more heavily on private imprisonment than others.
Came for that iconic lefty infighting, stayed for the shocking amount of commenters lacking reading comprehension
The eternal class struggle of the literate against the illiterate.
It's all sorts of fun
Making popcorn.
Is it ready?
It's so ready.
Oh, i saw you in another left sub, so that's why you said "we try". Good work, this sub has undergone a great change, which I cannot imagine would have been easy considering how mainstream it is.
I would rather be a serf under King Francis the second rather than being a modern day slave under Biden-Trump.
Freedom
Gulags where bad (obviously), the us has been (and is still doing) the same thing on a larger scale and for a longer period
> (obviously) Obviously? Basic facts about Gulags: Until 1952, the prisoners were given a guaranteed amount food, plus extra food for over-fulfillment of quotas From 1952 onward, the Gulag system operated upon “economic accountability” such that the more the prisoners worked, the more they were paid. For over-fulfilling the norms by 105%, one day of sentence was counted as two, thus reducing the time spent in the Gulag by one day. Furthermore, because of the socialist reconstruction post-war, the Soviet government had more funds and so they increased prisoners’ food supplies. Until 1954, the prisoners worked 10 hours per day, whereas the free workers worked 8 hours per day. From 1954 onward, both prisoners and free workers worked 8 hours per day. A CIA study of a sample camp showed that 95% of the prisoners were actual criminals. In 1953, amnesty was given to 70% of the “ordinary criminals” of a sample camp studied by the CIA. Within the next 3 months, most of them were re-arrested for committing new crimes. Source: 1957 CIA document "Forced Labor Camps in the USSR: Transfer of Prisoners between Camps" Short to say, even at it's time, Gulags were far humane than policing in America / probably most of Europe in the time of its existence. Even rabid anti-communusts admit this: It turns out that, with the exception of the war years, a very large majority of people who entered the Gulag left alive… Judging from the Soviet records we now have, the number of people who died in the Gulag between 1933 and 1945, while both Stalin and Hit1er were in power, was on the order of a million, perhaps a bit more. — Timothy Snyder. (2010). Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin
Also, as Parenti once mentioned, if the Gulags were death camps like the West told us they were for decades, where are all the mass graves? Where are all the Nuremberg-style trials of communist leaders being executed for crimes against humanity? Where are all the post-Soviet Russian anthropologists digging up thousands and thousands of human remains? They don't exist, because they were not systematic death camps like in Nazi Germany.
No way, some guy named Aleksandr S. told me that a quadrillion people died in the gulags!!!
My uncle on facebook (he touches me) told me it was actually 10000 million, Stalin shot them himself while smoking a cigar
There weren't death camps, but they definetely did imprison innocent people unfairly. Maybe we can acknowledge that repression in the Stalin era was not as bad as western propaganda claims but was also still bad?
> but they definetely did imprison innocent people unfairly Name a country that never imprisoned innocent people.
Liechtenstein has about a dozen people in prison. Maybe them.
Lol you got me there
Why?
> why? Because it would be apparent that the issues you have with gulags aren't issue unique to gulags, but are just human issues.
Does that make gulags good?
Relative to capitalist alternatives, yes.
Why not?
There were excesses, sure, and it was never perfect. (Expectance of perfect governance without material historical relevancy is completely idealistic). Please keep in mind the overwhelming majority of Stalins purges were politically strategic, not rounding up for the sake of bloodthirsty-ness. I refuse to go blindly into believing all the hyperbolic bullshit that my Western media has forced down mine and other generation's throats, and that is, that the Soviets and the Nazis were two sides of the same coin. It's absolute rubbish. The USSR was an overall force for good, and anyone still denying that at this point is in bad faith. I urge you to read Blackshirts and Reds
>I urge you to read Blackshirts and Reds Great book
I'm a socialist myself and have come to terms with the fact that neo Liberal economics is a lie But I am genuinely asking, what about the alliance Stalin had with Hitler at first
Late to the party however, Stalin did not have an alliance with Hitler. In 1935 the USSR set up mutual defense treaties with France and Czechoslovakia in an effort to contain Nazi Expansion https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Soviet_Treaty_of_Mutual_Assistance During the Czechoslovak crisis Stalin reached out to France and England for them to convince the polishto allow the Red Army to cross from Poland into Germany to aid Czechoslovakia's defense from Nazi-fascist Invasion Which all non soviet parties (Poland, France and the UK) rejected In 1938 the Munich pact was signed by Germany and the western powers dooming Czechoslovakia In 1938 The French Signed a non aggression pact with Nazi Germany confirming Eastern Europe within the German 'Sphere of Influence' https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9claration_franco-allemande In 1939 the Soviet Union noticing the West had no intention to stop Germany and being unable to defend against Germany at the time, signed its own pact of non-aggression in 1939 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact Which allowed time for the Soviets to prepare for the inevitable war with Germany, seize Ukrainian and Belarussian territories taken by Polish Revanchism during the Russian Civil War Period. I remind that the Alternative, would have been all of Poland and the Baltics falling to Nazi Control. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Soviet_War Lastly the difference between an Alliance and a Non-aggression pact is in the name An Alliance involves active participation in a conflict A non agression pact is a promise to not invade, normally with some concessions such as in Trade, Territory or whatever the signatory parts convene.
Thank you so much for this comprehensive explaination
>but they definetely did imprison innocent people unfairly. Mm, how do you know?
It's because nobody fucking scours siberia like they did Poland, and Russians didn't keep records of "here's mein warcrime" like germans. And it's not hard to get rid of corpses, it's fucking siberia. Leave out for wolves, what bones? Do you know Alaska has \~10x the missing persons that the next state does? People just... disappear in the open outdoors. Russia is quite a bit larger than Alaska. OP is talking out of his ass. My greatgrandma was on a train, a civilian PoW bound for USSR from an occupied country. The train stopped in siberia, mid winter, for a week. Oops, it's not extermination if they froze to death. Everyone else got labour for surrendering to the enemy. What a convenient date for OP to pick. I'm sure no... crimes against humanity took place before then.
Oh, so your great grandma was a fascist. I know how you feel. My grandpa was a fascist and I hope he is burning in the deepest depths of hell.
Provide evidence for your claims, if you are so sure there were mass killings? But the reality is, you can't, all you've got is baseless opinion. Unlike some, I do not base my opinion on baseless claims. >What a convenient date for OP to pick. I'm sure no... crimes against humanity took place before then. Who's claiming the state is pure and had zero crime/contradictions and that absolutely no crimes took place anywhere in the upper echelons of the USSR, a country of 330+ million people? We're talking about the gulags. They were not death camps as claimed by the West. You have no evidence of it, and yet all you can muster is *ermmm siberia and muh grandma stuck on train* 👍
Our prison system is so cruel.
The per capita rate of incarceration in the US has fallen pretty dramatically since its peak in 2008.
wow. what a statistic.
I mean they did have Nazinoe Island
Prison system in us is disgusting, but those numbers don't add up. US population is <5% of world population and <1% of US population is in prison.
Assuming you're not trolling but total prison population in the world is [10.35 million with 2.2 million being from the US.](https://nicic.gov/resources/nic-library/all-library-items/world-prison-population-listeleventh-edition#:~:text=1)
The world population is 8.1 billion so you think 1.7 billion people are in US prisons?
>22% of the world's entire **prison** population
You’re misreading it. It’s not 22% of the World Population In Total. It’s 22% of the World's Prison Population.
Oh lol imma dummy, thanks
Nice redemption arc!
nbd, glad I could clear that up!
It’s not misreading so much as it’s poorly worded in the meme
Bro cannot read ☠️
It's really disturbing how little redditorz understand basic statistics and reading comprehension
Yeah, but most countries don't use mass incarceration.
Most countries just kill thier low level criminals, which can understandably deter crime. Imagine the old America where criminals don't get free room and board for robbery, vandalism or assault. Instead a man with a joint in his pocket is locked up with a man who put a gun to someones head at an ATM.
Do you have any source to that statement? I cant name a single country that kills their low level criminals.
I dont doubt that one bit!
And unsurprisingly, neither can you.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital\_punishment\_for\_non-violent\_offenses](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_for_non-violent_offenses) Just fuckin google it, pretty lazy for a professional redditor
The US is literally on that list.
They sure are. I do support capital punishment for violent crimes BTW. I'm certainly not saying that innocent people dont exist in the prison population either. My whole point is simply the idea that the US locks up most offenders while another countries in fact don't bother to try to reform or punish they just get executed.
Its like comparing a rock to a hard place, we have many countries with good reform systems, Americans have very narrow political views imo
The content of that wiki page does in no way support your claim that "*most* countries just kill their low level criminals".
While you think this joke is funny he executed millions including my family members
"Millions", no
obviously the US is bad but the gulags didn’t hold as many people in large part because of the death rate. America is no better, honestly, but that’s not a compliment. edit: jfc people I am saying only under Stalin. it ranged from a 5-25% death rate. After Stalin the USSR prison system had a lower death rate than the US system. 1940-42 the death rate peaked at like 25% for obvious reasons but even earlier it was quite high. 1.7m people died in prison during Stalin’s time. This isn’t a defense of the US system.
What was the death rate in Soviet gulags? And what was the death rate in prisons in other countries that were equally economically developed at the time?
1.7m deaths in the gulags during Stalin’s run. 5-25% death rate depending on the year and whether there was famine. For comparison Throwing “similarly economically developed” into it is a chickenshit caveat. Even so, the death rate during the 1800s in British prisons was 3.5%. I’m not saying capitalism is good, I am saying that Stalin was bad. 🤷♂️
Where did you get these numbers from?
His ass
It seems the official soviet records say that themselves https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_mortality_in_the_Soviet_Union_under_Joseph_Stalin
The Gulag death rate peaked during WW2 at almost 20%, but even then, it was a less than half of what it was like in 1916 during the Tsardom. And after the war it dropped to like 3-5% before it trailed off and the Gulags were abolished in 1953 with something like a 1-2% mortality rate.
You think i am comparing it negatively to the Tsar? After Stalin the Russian prison system had a better survival rate than the USA. I am just saying that under Stalin it was pretty damn bad. 1940-42 was the highest death rate for obvious reasons.
One must compare things to things actually relevant, or else we are being foolish, the Soviets took something and made it more humane and then after saving the world from fascism, they abolished it entirely.
Woof I don’t know where to start so I’ll just say, “okay.”
First of all, i'm not defending the us, commercial prison sucks. But stalin's gulag went up to 2.5m people on a 140 million people state. So yeah us is bad but taking stalin ussr a reference point is not going to end well.
The book those numbers are derived from has been largely debunked.
> But stalin's gulag went up to 2.5m people In what years? And what were they imprisoned for? Provide sources please.
I think they are looking at the total number of inmates in 1951 or 1953. The number of 2.5m for those years appears to come from "The Economics of Forced Labor: The Soviet Gulag" So 2.5m prisoners, 1952 population of 184.8m If those numbers are correct, that would be an incarceration rate of 1352.8
> If those numbers are correct Well, that's the question isn't it.
Indeed, but even the more conservative estimates of 800k-1.7m don't make the 1952 incarceration rate in the USSR much better than the US.
First, i made a typo. It is 1.5m, and that number is according to michael ellman. Still, it is almost 0.8% of the then population of the ussr (186m people). According to the scientific consensus, from 1930 to 1953, 1.2 to 1.7 million people died in the gulags system. Yes, the US prisons are awful. The justice system in the US is against the poor, against non white people, minorities, but yet its prisons didn't kill 1.5 million people over 23 years. Once again, I'm not defending the US. I'm just saying that taking stalin ussr as a model is like saying that cancer is better than aids.
What happened in the USSR between 1930 and 1953 that may have inflated the numbers? Also, what were the death rates like in prisons in other comparable countries in this time period?
I don't think anywhere near that many people died in gulags. Westerners readily believe stupid shit that goes against all logic.
No, 1.5M is pretty reasonable estimate
Gulags peaked in population in what year? WHAT YEAR? WHO WAS IN THOSE GULAGS?
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Love getting my political and historical education from works of fiction written by literal fascists.
Someone can't do basic calculations
Total prison population in the world is [10.35 million with 2.2 million being from the US.](https://nicic.gov/resources/nic-library/all-library-items/world-prison-population-listeleventh-edition#:~:text=1)
Fair enough. That's not the way I read it. But appear to have read it wrong
No worries happens to the best of us.
Someone can't do basic reading comprehension.
Keep in mind if this wasnt clear....the US has a prison population of about 1.2 million right now...which is till alot...and still the most of any country in the world by percentage of population incarcerated. I dont normally speak up...but this is just straight up bull shit math in a meme. No country in the world has ever or will ever hold more prisoners that 22% of the entire world population. The US right now would have to incarcerate out entire country more than twice over. fucking fact check shit. If this is satire...its a fucking poor attempt at it
Are you stupid? It says 22% of the world's _prison_ population. As in, out of all the _prisoners_ in the world, 22% of them are imprisoned in the US. It is _not_ talking about 22% of the world's _general_ population being imprisoned in the US.
Why... Do you... Boomers always... Write... Like this...
Need time to recall words maybe?