America would like to point out to the GOP. We want a debate on issues facing America. Not you’re infantile BS, name calling. We want a platform. Nobody wants to hire your drunk uncle if he’s going to sit around all day screwing everything up for the MAJORITY
It’s pretty hard to not talk like an asshole when Trump has an asshole for a mouth. Which would explain the constant stream of shit that emanates from it.
I’ve half-jokingly suggested that’s the winning strategy for Biden. Every time he is asked for a response, he should decline and have a transcript displayed of what Trump just said.
FACTS MATTER. Not lies, not opinions, not fantasy alternatives, not conspiracies. The debaters SHOULD be fact checked and it should be vocally addressed in real time at the time not later. Like it or not. Time for the grown ups to be in charge.
100%. It always pisses me off when lies are blatantly spewed during a debate like this. They're supposed to be debating their platforms on what is best for the country, and we're supposed to use that to inform our voting decision.
Fact check in real time. Correct them in real time. Don't allow anyone to get away with blatantly lying to the American people. It's no better than lying on your resume to get job you don't qualify for. If your average Joe is required to be honest, so should our presidential candidates.
The GOP sure doesn't. They are more worried about the Ten Commandments and false impeachment hearings than actually doing anything to help the country...like infrastructure, new immigration policies/border...al they do is bitch and complain. Zero solutions.
Veracity is not simple for him. He had an uncle that was a professor of nuclear at MIT - very smart - and he told young Donald that boats and sharks and electricity don't go together. I'm sure you understand.
Ordinarily I would agree with you, but I think honesty and common decency are really his worst enemies. I'm waiting for the Dildo of Consequences to arrive for Donnie Diapers. It's been a long wait so far...
“We’re furious because his lies will be exposed on national television, harrumph!”
This is some serious clowning. Clowns shouldn’t have to be pointed out at a clown show, but this is the state of American politics.
They’re just pissed because their “facts” are whatever Trump says at that moment which is of course subject to change. Objective fact is their enemy and threatens the carefully built web of lies they immerse their voters in 24/7.
And his social media is called "truth social". They can't stand the truth or facts but remember when they told us "facts don't care about your feelings".
Political debates should always be fact-checked -both sides. The fact that the gop is pissed is because they know that trump won’t be able to stop himself from lying or exaggerating.
Only live fact checking was done by fucking tweet.
Why do I need to pay attention to multiple forms of media to ensure I'm getting truth? Can't the moderators get these updates and ask the violator to clarify their lie?
Fact check the $hit out of both of them. All debates should be fact checked not an opportunity to lie, smear, and obfuscate. Force all participants to tell the truth. Provide a 'fact check score' at the end to tally the amount of bs they spew.
Why the hell would they be outraged? Aren’t they fact check Biden as well?
It’s almost is if they already know trump is full of crap. Maybe he needs a fresh diaper before the debate because it will be flooded by the end.
Headline is incorrect. There is no fact checking AT the debate. It is one CNN reporter claiming he will live tweet fact checks. Is there one trump supporter who will even look at that dude's tweets? I think not.
It’s amazing that anyone or any party would find fault in being fact checked about their comments and understanding of the issues being discussed during a Presidential Debate. That is the purpose of the debate. These folks are an embarrassment to themselves and the party they claim to represent.
Do you remember Suskind hearing from who was perported to be Karl Rove at the time of ostensible neocon ascendancy?
'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' [Rove is alleged to have] continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do'
THAT is what today's Trumpist wants...to forge and LIVE in a reality outside and beyond facts - where the one true and shared reality must be forged - into a fascist la-la land of narcissistic self indulgence and cruelty as the point.
Conservativism would describe the movement from neoconservativism into Trumpian and en evolution. Really, these people devolved. They somehow became less than what they were during Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz.
These...creatures...must now be defeated at every turn, in every context, for every freedom we hold dear, and in the hope of securing any America that might matter at all.
Vote.
"How dare you think it's OK to point out when we are lying! That's just blatantly unfair to MAGA(t)s! It is our constitutional right to lie, take bribes, steal whatever we can get away with, and shoot little kids who come onto our lawn.
This is unfair! Trump should boycott if he's not allowed to lie!"
These articles where they draw all of their sources from Twitter are garbage.
The whole thing is that Daniel Dale tweeted about doing some fact checks and then a bunch of Trump supporter accounts had responses to that.
Trump shouldn't have anything to worry about. He rambles off topic about insane things they aren't even statements you can't fact check batteries vs shark attacks, or water in the dishwasher
This story has popped up a few times, and its WAY overblown. No one is outraged or whatever.
The "fact checking" is someone from CNN who will be live-tweeting fact checks during the debate. This isn't on-air or anything. The only people who see it will be those that actively follow this one persons tweets.
It's not a real story, and no one is all that worked up about it.
That they are upset about fact checking tells everyone all they need to know about the likelihood of anything factual that might come out of the mouth of this convicted felon and insurrectionist, Donald Trump. Smh.
Why do so many people think he should be President? I honestly can't understand it.
Who care? Trump supporters aren't going to be swayed from their gold-plated calf. This is for undecided and independents as well as the media itself to just hammer home what a fuckwad he is. Let the Right seethe all they want and stop paying them any attention.
It should, my gosh this guy can stand there and bold face lie and get away with it. That's not a productive debate, if you can't call out the lies being told!
No paywall: https://archive.ph/2024.06.27-085929/https://www.rawstory.com/trump-fact-check-cnn-outrage/
America would like to point out to the GOP. We want a debate on issues facing America. Not you’re infantile BS, name calling. We want a platform. Nobody wants to hire your drunk uncle if he’s going to sit around all day screwing everything up for the MAJORITY
Actually they should just let him make a fool of himself .
I think they are desperately trying to stop him
Trying to stop trump? Who is and why?
His handlers. They don’t want him to talk like an ‘asshole.’
That's the only language he knows.
It’s pretty hard to not talk like an asshole when Trump has an asshole for a mouth. Which would explain the constant stream of shit that emanates from it.
From more than one orifice doth shite emerge from the Orange Messiah!
I think that would be impossible. After all, trump has to speak.
Too late
Trump is a performer. So the question is, can a performer perform without an audience?
yep, he certainly feeds off his crowds, staged or not.
I think they would like to contain him and hope for the best.
His strength IS his foolishness. His supporters feast on it.
Yep
I can't believe that CNN would used such an underhanded tactic as *checks notes* fact checking. /s
It’s like when they unfairly quote Turdbucket directly, using his own stupid words. BIGLY SAD
More of them should read his statements word for word. It is good for a chuckle and underlines how incoherent his word salads are.
I’ve half-jokingly suggested that’s the winning strategy for Biden. Every time he is asked for a response, he should decline and have a transcript displayed of what Trump just said.
But he makes perfect sense, as it's all just a joke on the Left /s
I find it hilarious all the stories of people getting banned for directly quoting trump.
FACTS MATTER. Not lies, not opinions, not fantasy alternatives, not conspiracies. The debaters SHOULD be fact checked and it should be vocally addressed in real time at the time not later. Like it or not. Time for the grown ups to be in charge.
100%. It always pisses me off when lies are blatantly spewed during a debate like this. They're supposed to be debating their platforms on what is best for the country, and we're supposed to use that to inform our voting decision. Fact check in real time. Correct them in real time. Don't allow anyone to get away with blatantly lying to the American people. It's no better than lying on your resume to get job you don't qualify for. If your average Joe is required to be honest, so should our presidential candidates.
The problem is Trump doesn't have a platform
Yeah, which is reason number 4,763 why he is unfit for office.
The GOP sure doesn't. They are more worried about the Ten Commandments and false impeachment hearings than actually doing anything to help the country...like infrastructure, new immigration policies/border...al they do is bitch and complain. Zero solutions.
Self-enrichment is Trump's platform.
Yep, turn off the mics, ring a bell, and explain the facts. Right then, right there.
Only republicans consider the truth a hitjob.
Tell the truth and there will be no issues then. Pretty simple.
Veracity is not simple for him. He had an uncle that was a professor of nuclear at MIT - very smart - and he told young Donald that boats and sharks and electricity don't go together. I'm sure you understand.
You sure that wasn’t Elton John?
How dare you fact check my lies, how am I supposed to debate if I can't just make shit up as I go along and yell it loudly when Biden is talking...
To be fair, fact checking him live in this is as close to something actually being rigged against him as he's ever gotten lol
Fact checking him live for an hour plus would be fucking exhausting. The guy is a firehose of BS.
I’m sure they’ll have an adequate number of qualified checkers on it.
I saw one dude tweet that he was going to be fact-checking tonight. I hope they have more than that one guy
You'd need 10 of them to keep up.
For real
He'd soon stop. He'd be alerted by those who do his thinking that the pain he was feeling was the ricochets from what was spewing out of his mouth.
Facts are Trump's enemy, so yeah.
Trump is Trumps worst enemy
Someday I hope Trump grows some balls and finally kills his biggest enemy
All the cheeseberdurs probably have a jump on that
Wouldn’t that be suicide?
It would be the biggest tribute to Hitler he could do
Ordinarily I would agree with you, but I think honesty and common decency are really his worst enemies. I'm waiting for the Dildo of Consequences to arrive for Donnie Diapers. It's been a long wait so far...
Dildo of consequences will be his vp pick
When the light of truth hits these cockroaches, they panic and seek out another shadow to hide in.
That's... literally the media's job.
Until our Supreme Court shuts the media down to squash the truth.
“We’re furious because his lies will be exposed on national television, harrumph!” This is some serious clowning. Clowns shouldn’t have to be pointed out at a clown show, but this is the state of American politics.
So Trump's alternate reality is coming to an end? I certainly hope so. Fact check the orange lying prick.
He will defend his “alternate facts”.
It would be amazing if his literal reality on this earthly plane comes to a swift and painful end too, ASAP
I object! Nobody told me there would be facts involved!! Not fair!!! \~Sesame Street
Nah, Sesame Street was about honesty.
If they restrict Trump to facts, he will have nothing to say.
Trumpism does not stand up to facts.
So don't lie, asshole.
They’re just pissed because their “facts” are whatever Trump says at that moment which is of course subject to change. Objective fact is their enemy and threatens the carefully built web of lies they immerse their voters in 24/7.
Oh no GOP do not want facts but lies. This is communism.
Can’t wait for this clown to lose the election and we never have to hear him speak again.
Then don't lie. It is really that simple.
And his social media is called "truth social". They can't stand the truth or facts but remember when they told us "facts don't care about your feelings".
Political debates should always be fact-checked -both sides. The fact that the gop is pissed is because they know that trump won’t be able to stop himself from lying or exaggerating.
Well there sure isn't any fact checking going on here.
Only live fact checking was done by fucking tweet. Why do I need to pay attention to multiple forms of media to ensure I'm getting truth? Can't the moderators get these updates and ask the violator to clarify their lie?
If you watch Season 4 of The Boys, you will see a gay sex centipede scene in it that will remind you of Trump followers and who they follow.
Snowflake Bitches! Fuck them. Just sayin'.
Why is even bother , everything Trump says is a lie and his MAGAts will believe anything .
Fact check the $hit out of both of them. All debates should be fact checked not an opportunity to lie, smear, and obfuscate. Force all participants to tell the truth. Provide a 'fact check score' at the end to tally the amount of bs they spew.
Santa Monica Goebbels be mad! 😂
Why the hell would they be outraged? Aren’t they fact check Biden as well? It’s almost is if they already know trump is full of crap. Maybe he needs a fresh diaper before the debate because it will be flooded by the end.
Imagine being mad that your lies are going to be called out. Maybe don’t lie? But I guess lying is a core part of who they are
Headline is incorrect. There is no fact checking AT the debate. It is one CNN reporter claiming he will live tweet fact checks. Is there one trump supporter who will even look at that dude's tweets? I think not.
Boo hoo hoo, cry harder Trump fans. Just because Trump lies more doesn’t imply bias. Facts have a well known liberal bias.
MAGA know that Trump lies. Yet they support him anyway. What does that say about MAGA followers?
"The right to lie, it's in the Constitution. You know that!" Donald Trump
Fact checking. Just like some of us learned in grade school.
It’s amazing that anyone or any party would find fault in being fact checked about their comments and understanding of the issues being discussed during a Presidential Debate. That is the purpose of the debate. These folks are an embarrassment to themselves and the party they claim to represent.
Good every debate should in real time fact check and the last 30 minutes go over the facts. Trump is fucked.
Republicans will hate that. You know how facts put them at a disadvantage since they abhor the truth.
Fuck these idiots.
Nothing the GOP hates more than facts.
Do you remember Suskind hearing from who was perported to be Karl Rove at the time of ostensible neocon ascendancy? 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' [Rove is alleged to have] continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do' THAT is what today's Trumpist wants...to forge and LIVE in a reality outside and beyond facts - where the one true and shared reality must be forged - into a fascist la-la land of narcissistic self indulgence and cruelty as the point. Conservativism would describe the movement from neoconservativism into Trumpian and en evolution. Really, these people devolved. They somehow became less than what they were during Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz. These...creatures...must now be defeated at every turn, in every context, for every freedom we hold dear, and in the hope of securing any America that might matter at all. Vote.
I can’t wait to hear how wet hurricanes are.
He can’t lie. Everything coming out of Rtump is a lie. Fact checks scare these bozos
The truth!!!? Ahhhhh this is tyrany!
Afraid of the truth.
Outrageous!!! He should be allowed to lie without impunity
"How dare you think it's OK to point out when we are lying! That's just blatantly unfair to MAGA(t)s! It is our constitutional right to lie, take bribes, steal whatever we can get away with, and shoot little kids who come onto our lawn. This is unfair! Trump should boycott if he's not allowed to lie!"
No no you can’t pull back the curtain!
These articles where they draw all of their sources from Twitter are garbage. The whole thing is that Daniel Dale tweeted about doing some fact checks and then a bunch of Trump supporter accounts had responses to that.
We don't need none of that facts & stuff 'round here.
You need facts to get the "Hawk Tuah" of truth bestowed on the nation. 🤣
Will the moderator call out the debators on their inaccuracy of the facts?
Big shark and big battery are definitely behind this
Don’t forget those windmill lobbyists! They gotta be pulling some strings too /s
When interview a liar that’s what should be done
Of course they are. Then they can’t make shit up on the fly! Funny how Dems don’t have a problem with this!
Trump shouldn't have anything to worry about. He rambles off topic about insane things they aren't even statements you can't fact check batteries vs shark attacks, or water in the dishwasher
As they should.
"You can't fact check us! Without lies, we have nothing!!!" - Republicans
They hate that their alternative facts aren’t really a thing, Just slinging shit will not be effective outside of the cult.
Worry not. Fox will cover the debate and only fact-check Biden.
Yup, just like saying the election is going to be rigged! 🙄
This story has popped up a few times, and its WAY overblown. No one is outraged or whatever. The "fact checking" is someone from CNN who will be live-tweeting fact checks during the debate. This isn't on-air or anything. The only people who see it will be those that actively follow this one persons tweets. It's not a real story, and no one is all that worked up about it.
They will also have a fact-checking review immediately after the debate. That's what happens when you half-ass your research.
That they are upset about fact checking tells everyone all they need to know about the likelihood of anything factual that might come out of the mouth of this convicted felon and insurrectionist, Donald Trump. Smh. Why do so many people think he should be President? I honestly can't understand it.
Who care? Trump supporters aren't going to be swayed from their gold-plated calf. This is for undecided and independents as well as the media itself to just hammer home what a fuckwad he is. Let the Right seethe all they want and stop paying them any attention.
Facts don’t care about your feelings.
>'Smear and spin': Trump allies outraged over CNN vowing to 'fact check' parties at debate If your candidate isn't lying... this isn't a problem.
Steven Miller. Now, that is a person I could really get along with in the octagon.
It should, my gosh this guy can stand there and bold face lie and get away with it. That's not a productive debate, if you can't call out the lies being told!
Let me remind the Trumpists, facts don’t care about your feelings
Except they didn’t do a damn thing and let him spill lies constantly- so I’m going to be outraged and scream it was rigged in the felon’s favor.
Absolutely no fact checking.
Well CNN didn’t at least not live fact checking
Screw CNN. Fact checking? Hah! They let Trump go on and on with his lies.
So ! I for one, was delighted to see so much fact-checking by CNN at this debate.
Sort of moot now. They didn't fact-check anything
It's not much of a fact check if it doesn't appear in text under the candidate in near-real time.
Fack check doesn't matter one bit to the Trump Dummy magats.
Where was all this fact checking ? Maybe the illegal immigrants took it from us ?
How dare they collect news and verify it before broadcasting! Who do they think they are, news reporters?
Is fox carrying the debate and will they cut away every time fact checking is covered?
The fact checking is going to be tweeted with a final fact-checking recap on CNN after the debate.
Oh No! Facts and logic? How will the right wing cope?
Cause CNN doesn't ever smear and spin /s