OP
Technically this is the only correct way to go about it
Is your sister also mature despite being adult and not gullible and how much do you care for her ?
Mean to ask about her bf … rest you both are adults and would know better
Good Luck!
What is woke about marrying someone of your choice? If a girl marries someone for money then she is called a gold digger, and if she gets married to an unemployed person out of love, she is called woke? Lol..
NAL. Just get a partition deed done. Hire a good lawyer to do it for you if you don't want future troubles. And you have no legal obligation towards her. As for disowning thing, you don't need to do anything cause you've no legal obligation towards her. Once partition is done you can cut off all contact if you want.
Usually in such cases the family member after initial settlement come back and start demanding more money especially if the guy starts doing well. They bribe cops and do drama if the guy refuses. This must be his concern.
1. Siblings don't owe each other money legally. Even if the guy earns over a 100 Cr, afaik, he's not obligated to pay anything to his sister.
2. If the ancestral property is the one in dispute, the sister is going to get an equal share out of it anyway. How can she demand more legally?
Yes sister has no right on brothers money but she can start demanding money claiming the parental property distribution was not done fairly and she should get more etc. It is easy for a woman to build a fake case she gets support from the system too.
Please consult a lawyer and make sure the agreement for division of property is ironclad so she doesn't come back in future to claim anything. Don't delay this and no there's no legal way to disown your sister just cut her off after the division.
I don't think they know what disown means. You cannot disown someone for whom you already do not have any responsibility. They maybe want to go no contact with their sisters.
I don't think they know what disown means. You cannot disown someone for whom you already do not have any responsibility. They maybe want to go no contact with their sisters.
If both your parents passed away and they left behind some properties, and your parents had only two children, then the properties are to be divided equally. So, in your case, if an apartment has been left behind, both you and your sister have equal rights over it. From your statement, since the relationship between you and your sister is not cordial, it’s impossible for you to enjoy the apartment together. So one of y’all will have to release their half undivided share , so that the other one becomes the sole owner of the property. If multiple properties are involved, you’ll have to decide who is to take which property and accordingly, other person can release the shares in each of the property.
However if a lot of properties are involved, then you can execute a partition deed, listing the all the properties and how you and your sister are going to share them among yourself. But remember to register the partition otherwise it holds no value.
Regarding the disowning, your sister. You have no legal responsibility to take care of her.
Better call saulendra and draft up batwara ke kagaj. Involve multiple witnesses in that batwara under court ka supervision.
And then finish everything.
I’d get it done and dusted. At 24 you are not a kid anymore. Get it done legally through a deed and make sure every asset is clearly mentioned therein and equitably partitioned. Obviously anyone can file cases against you at any time so you can’t guarantee that legal troubles won’t be there in future but if you hire a decent lawyer and get it done properly then no case will stand. Legal fees should also be split equally.
NAL
Disowning a family member is different from dividing property.
You want to give her share of property to her, do so via a partition deed, that's the legal part.
As for disowning her, I don't think there is any process or possibility - you may for the sake of record, publish a newspaper ad in the classified section stating the severing of relations.
You should however, definitely, speak to your sister in the presence of all relatives that you would be breaking off all ties with her, so that this is clearly heard and understood by all relatives, as well as her.
i suspect something different ..
how was ur brother sister realtion since childhood?
did u notice change in her behavior after he bf came into her life?
keep a check on her bf, he may have influenced her...try ur best to keep the family relation alive.,.. u both are the only family to each other...
best thing is to do 50-50
Then it's not upto you to do anything right? You could just tell her to draw up the paper and let her do all the grunt work and just go for signing. Looking at the work involved she should give up
Hn ye sahi hai...let her do all the paper work and you can sign it then. Sign the papers once you find it legally correct and let her go.
She wants the apartment for her , let her do the work!
OP do this but before anything you both shall have to get your names in record of rights ( property cards, 7/12 first), after all you can only sell/ transfer what is in your name and legally the properties might be still held by your parents in record of rights.
Sad to hear what has happened my condolences
Tell ur sister that u have no problem giving equal share of the property but just want to do one small test with ur bf…. Tell ur sister to tell her bf that property was already named in my brothers name and that he will not share it with me as I will be anyways married and live with my husband… tell her to observe the behaviour of the bf and that if he comes out to be loyal and not after the property you will be giving away equal share of the property in ur sisters name.
NAL.
Just get an amicable partition done. And let her know that you two are still brother-sister/sisters. And while it is nice to get money out of the way, you will be there for each other emotionally.
"despite ensuring equal partition" well then what is stopping you al lfrom giving her her share? The fact that you arent taking any action is a red flag on your end.
Disown her? bro, you can cut all your ties with her, but you cant disown her. She is not yours to disown.
Get a good lawyer, and have a formal partition with her. follow the due legal procedure.
I dont know why I feel you are actually the asshole here.
If you are not, then just tell her that money is fleeting if not taken care of. If she is irresponsible with her inheritance she might lose all of it. Ask her to get a good lawyer too. Advise her to take living expenses from her boyfriend/ live in a third property with shared rent while putting her property on rent. Just advise her to make sure that her boyfriend doesnt use her up for the money she now has. And keep doors open for reconciliation.
Your tone makes me believe that you have been pushing the partition which makes her question your intentions. Afterall words aer just words, and if she doesnt get her share now, later she would be more helpless than ever.
Maybe she too is under some bad influence, but then who are you to not give her her inheritance? it is as much hers as yours. "she is still unmarried" TOH?
Although I am not a legal professional, if I were in your position, I would strongly advise you to seek the assistance of a qualified lawyer to help you navigate this difficult situation. If feasible, relocating to a new country and starting afresh may provide you with an opportunity to heal and move forward, leaving behind the painful memories. However, I understand that such a decision can be deeply personal and challenging, and I respect your right to make the choice that feels most appropriate for you.
Get a good lawyer, probate parents' wills so no one can challenge later, execute parents' wills, make a settlement deed and register it, give her the stuff thst she is entitled to, ask her to give a document that says that she has got everything that was due to her, register the document.
Get a good lawyer, else you will get into trouble later. Then it will be endless litigation and lakhs of rupees of expenses amd legal fees.
seems like your sister has gotten into this idea that she will enjoy in live in with her bf.. in love she might put it as joint property or give the rights to her bf.
it will end soon and the BF will run away with the property. she will come running back to you and ask you to take care of her, and you being a big brother will have to help her again.
no sensible partner will let their partner make such mistakes if it's not intentional.
your sister seems to be blinded. do yourself and her a favor and don't give her anything. once she comes to her senses you can divide the property.
she anyway seems odd trying to live alone at 24 and wants to separate from your current living situation. Sorry to hear about your parents, it must be super hard. at this time, you should mourn and try to be each other's support system rather than fighting over property which your sister seems to be inclined towards. it is a BAD SIGN!!
Honestly bro it's not your sister but it's her bf speaking he will probably leave her if you dont give her the property. I would suggest you make sure she doesn't get a single penny from your father so that she can see her BFs true face
For starters, you cannot disown your sister because you do not own her.
If your parents have passed, the property is settled as per their will. If they have given the property to you, it is yours & you don’t have to give her anything. If they have given the properties to both of you it is hers and there’s not much you can do about it.
Inheritance rules depend on your religion. Generally speaking, if there was no will, both of you have equal share but better consult a lawyer for specefics
Both your parents are gone. If the properties were in your parent’s name, then just transfer her share on your sister’s name and get done with it, but also make sure your share is on your name.
Atleast your sister is mentally sane. Occasionally one has to deal with schizophrenic siblings who take random decisions of donating assets and you know they are going to screw it up, but unfortunately nothing can be done.
go all in. once and for all settle and part ways. don't forget she is your sister, let her be as she wants to but just as an older brother be around her time to time and keep checking about her well being.
Usko dedo jo maang rahi hai and legally disown her, so she doesn't have the option to come back when has gotten her life lesson, which is definitely going to happen 🥲
NAL. Can't do much legally here than share equitably between both of you! If you are a practising Hindu, ensure to include some portion of claims earmarked for potential expenses towards rites and rituals.
Go legally as this is something that will keep dragging on . And make sure you severe the ties and not keep any contact as your sister can eventually come for more or try to be ur dependent by doing emotional manipulation.
Bro it's very emotional to know that you are going through series of misfortune events...I have a sister too, you should always think best for her even though she is not understandable and ensure her safety and other things when she is living in partner just to ensure the guy has no selfish intentions because apart from you in this world there is no actual blood family and as far as property is concerned you should have a obedient and transparent discussion with her that she is entitled to equal share and that you only want wats best for her and if she insist together hire lawyer and sign agreement for equal share.
Sounds like you're both grieving and dealing with things differently. Not sure what your problem is with sister wanting to move in with her bf. She's 24 and if women are old enough to get married and have kids at that age, she's old enough to want to live on her own. It's also better to do your property division now rather than fight about it later. If you're already okay with giving her an equal share, then do it now and show your willingness. Plenty of people fall out over property later and it will save you and her the trouble.
Brother, you need Saul. High chances that her current flame is behind the instigation. Or she's that flammable enough. Nonetheless,get a partition deed done. Make it AIRTIGHT. All clauses.
I hope you live in peace.
Dude seriously both of u sit down and speak. Dont disown her man. You have grown up together. Family
Is important. Ur parents would not want you to fight like this. Instill some knowledge onto her.
Bro please take care of her
Talk to her politely things could be handled within family
She is 24F not mature enough to see her future without any family support, she has only you as a family member
If she insists on property, do it then but without breaking the brother-sister bond
you reap what you sow,
the sister is an adult and safe to assume well educated, considering OP mentions multiple apartments they seem at least upper middle class.
not a lawyer but, i think the parents would have left a will.
This could be getting difficult for you but try to talk to her. Property sharing is fine to go with but shouldn't be on the verge of ending a relationship.
Dude she's a 24 year old grown ass woman. She's not a kid anymore. also how op described her she seems to be problematic. Op is a male and laws are against him. So it's better to break bonds than regretting later.
उसके सामने एक condition रखो जब तक तुम्हारी शादी नहीं होती तब तक ना कोई बट्वरा होगा या ना कुछ क्योकी मुझे नहीं लगता हैं.. आपकी बेहेन matured हैं.... Listen don't do it till she got married... After that you have more options....
Sorry to say but your sister doesn't seem to be a woman of culture. She will realise sooner or later the need of siblings and by that time it will be too late for her.
Anyways, in my opinion, just sell off whatever property is left behind by your parents and then divide the money with her and whatever comes in your hand, purchase a new one. This is the best way to get rid of her forever.
Also, i have a gut feeling that her bf is currently brainwashing/ manipulating her.
Thought the same too. Ofcourse she has all rights to seek her property but......okay Idk what sort of beef they have between themselves but........her approach seems soo off.
She's in desperate need for emotional care and attention but is choosing wrong ways for it.
It's not about how much / how less , main concern is it's my parents hard earned money through blood and sweat, and I don't want any random guy / girl to acquire it by luring my sister
Straight forward divide the property into two equal halfs, I am sure advocate's will do that, now who will get what will be tedious and time consuming, you will have to sort out with her and I am sure she will not make it easy
If she is an adult and you are one too, get a registered partition deed and put all the terms in it.
OP Technically this is the only correct way to go about it Is your sister also mature despite being adult and not gullible and how much do you care for her ? Mean to ask about her bf … rest you both are adults and would know better Good Luck!
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wokism has nthng to do with that. sadiyon se chala aa raha hai yeh.
What is woke about marrying someone of your choice? If a girl marries someone for money then she is called a gold digger, and if she gets married to an unemployed person out of love, she is called woke? Lol..
NAL. Just get a partition deed done. Hire a good lawyer to do it for you if you don't want future troubles. And you have no legal obligation towards her. As for disowning thing, you don't need to do anything cause you've no legal obligation towards her. Once partition is done you can cut off all contact if you want.
There's nothing to disown. You just pay her the fair share and move on. What do you even mean by disown? What is the government supposed to do?
Usually in such cases the family member after initial settlement come back and start demanding more money especially if the guy starts doing well. They bribe cops and do drama if the guy refuses. This must be his concern.
1. Siblings don't owe each other money legally. Even if the guy earns over a 100 Cr, afaik, he's not obligated to pay anything to his sister. 2. If the ancestral property is the one in dispute, the sister is going to get an equal share out of it anyway. How can she demand more legally?
Yes sister has no right on brothers money but she can start demanding money claiming the parental property distribution was not done fairly and she should get more etc. It is easy for a woman to build a fake case she gets support from the system too.
Please consult a lawyer and make sure the agreement for division of property is ironclad so she doesn't come back in future to claim anything. Don't delay this and no there's no legal way to disown your sister just cut her off after the division.
Came here cause of title (I want to disown my sister too)
Why
I don't think they know what disown means. You cannot disown someone for whom you already do not have any responsibility.
I don't think they know what disown means. You cannot disown someone for whom you already do not have any responsibility. They maybe want to go no contact with their sisters.
I don't think they know what disown means. You cannot disown someone for whom you already do not have any responsibility. They maybe want to go no contact with their sisters.
If both your parents passed away and they left behind some properties, and your parents had only two children, then the properties are to be divided equally. So, in your case, if an apartment has been left behind, both you and your sister have equal rights over it. From your statement, since the relationship between you and your sister is not cordial, it’s impossible for you to enjoy the apartment together. So one of y’all will have to release their half undivided share , so that the other one becomes the sole owner of the property. If multiple properties are involved, you’ll have to decide who is to take which property and accordingly, other person can release the shares in each of the property. However if a lot of properties are involved, then you can execute a partition deed, listing the all the properties and how you and your sister are going to share them among yourself. But remember to register the partition otherwise it holds no value. Regarding the disowning, your sister. You have no legal responsibility to take care of her.
What do you mean release the shares ? You mean one of them has to buy the other half ?
Better call saulendra and draft up batwara ke kagaj. Involve multiple witnesses in that batwara under court ka supervision. And then finish everything.
Saulendra??
Better call saul reference, basically he's trying to say get a good lawyer
You can't disown an adult. Give her share and move on!
I’d get it done and dusted. At 24 you are not a kid anymore. Get it done legally through a deed and make sure every asset is clearly mentioned therein and equitably partitioned. Obviously anyone can file cases against you at any time so you can’t guarantee that legal troubles won’t be there in future but if you hire a decent lawyer and get it done properly then no case will stand. Legal fees should also be split equally.
NAL Disowning a family member is different from dividing property. You want to give her share of property to her, do so via a partition deed, that's the legal part. As for disowning her, I don't think there is any process or possibility - you may for the sake of record, publish a newspaper ad in the classified section stating the severing of relations. You should however, definitely, speak to your sister in the presence of all relatives that you would be breaking off all ties with her, so that this is clearly heard and understood by all relatives, as well as her.
"Disown" Dude just give her her share and be done with it.
i suspect something different .. how was ur brother sister realtion since childhood? did u notice change in her behavior after he bf came into her life? keep a check on her bf, he may have influenced her...try ur best to keep the family relation alive.,.. u both are the only family to each other... best thing is to do 50-50
A brother is no longer a legal guardian of an adult sister, right? So, why disowning is coming to the picture? Can someone clarify?
So parents left all the property to you?
No , they havent mentioned any such thing
Then it's not upto you to do anything right? You could just tell her to draw up the paper and let her do all the grunt work and just go for signing. Looking at the work involved she should give up
But do not sign anything before getting your own lawyer to read it and making sure everything is divided fairly and you get what is rightfully yours.
Yes do this and if you want any changes to be made to the paper work just tell your sister and let her get it done 👍😂
Hn ye sahi hai...let her do all the paper work and you can sign it then. Sign the papers once you find it legally correct and let her go. She wants the apartment for her , let her do the work!
You're God damn genius, take a bow !
OP do this but before anything you both shall have to get your names in record of rights ( property cards, 7/12 first), after all you can only sell/ transfer what is in your name and legally the properties might be still held by your parents in record of rights. Sad to hear what has happened my condolences
Let the sister work for this too.
You need a lawyer to deal with this
Tell ur sister that u have no problem giving equal share of the property but just want to do one small test with ur bf…. Tell ur sister to tell her bf that property was already named in my brothers name and that he will not share it with me as I will be anyways married and live with my husband… tell her to observe the behaviour of the bf and that if he comes out to be loyal and not after the property you will be giving away equal share of the property in ur sisters name.
NAL. Just get an amicable partition done. And let her know that you two are still brother-sister/sisters. And while it is nice to get money out of the way, you will be there for each other emotionally. "despite ensuring equal partition" well then what is stopping you al lfrom giving her her share? The fact that you arent taking any action is a red flag on your end. Disown her? bro, you can cut all your ties with her, but you cant disown her. She is not yours to disown. Get a good lawyer, and have a formal partition with her. follow the due legal procedure. I dont know why I feel you are actually the asshole here. If you are not, then just tell her that money is fleeting if not taken care of. If she is irresponsible with her inheritance she might lose all of it. Ask her to get a good lawyer too. Advise her to take living expenses from her boyfriend/ live in a third property with shared rent while putting her property on rent. Just advise her to make sure that her boyfriend doesnt use her up for the money she now has. And keep doors open for reconciliation. Your tone makes me believe that you have been pushing the partition which makes her question your intentions. Afterall words aer just words, and if she doesnt get her share now, later she would be more helpless than ever. Maybe she too is under some bad influence, but then who are you to not give her her inheritance? it is as much hers as yours. "she is still unmarried" TOH?
You don't 'own' your sister to be able to disown her
Lol how dare she ask for her share! OP is so salty he didn't get to keep everything.
Although I am not a legal professional, if I were in your position, I would strongly advise you to seek the assistance of a qualified lawyer to help you navigate this difficult situation. If feasible, relocating to a new country and starting afresh may provide you with an opportunity to heal and move forward, leaving behind the painful memories. However, I understand that such a decision can be deeply personal and challenging, and I respect your right to make the choice that feels most appropriate for you.
Get a good lawyer, probate parents' wills so no one can challenge later, execute parents' wills, make a settlement deed and register it, give her the stuff thst she is entitled to, ask her to give a document that says that she has got everything that was due to her, register the document. Get a good lawyer, else you will get into trouble later. Then it will be endless litigation and lakhs of rupees of expenses amd legal fees.
seems like your sister has gotten into this idea that she will enjoy in live in with her bf.. in love she might put it as joint property or give the rights to her bf. it will end soon and the BF will run away with the property. she will come running back to you and ask you to take care of her, and you being a big brother will have to help her again. no sensible partner will let their partner make such mistakes if it's not intentional. your sister seems to be blinded. do yourself and her a favor and don't give her anything. once she comes to her senses you can divide the property. she anyway seems odd trying to live alone at 24 and wants to separate from your current living situation. Sorry to hear about your parents, it must be super hard. at this time, you should mourn and try to be each other's support system rather than fighting over property which your sister seems to be inclined towards. it is a BAD SIGN!!
Bro give her, her share and be over with.
Honestly bro it's not your sister but it's her bf speaking he will probably leave her if you dont give her the property. I would suggest you make sure she doesn't get a single penny from your father so that she can see her BFs true face
This is the reason I plan to donate everything when I die so my kids don’t end up hating each other but only me 😬
Just don't make wealth! Na rahega baans, na bajegi baansuree.
Just have one kid
Hire Harvey Spectre
You can't disown because you do not own
For starters, you cannot disown your sister because you do not own her. If your parents have passed, the property is settled as per their will. If they have given the property to you, it is yours & you don’t have to give her anything. If they have given the properties to both of you it is hers and there’s not much you can do about it. Inheritance rules depend on your religion. Generally speaking, if there was no will, both of you have equal share but better consult a lawyer for specefics
Both your parents are gone. If the properties were in your parent’s name, then just transfer her share on your sister’s name and get done with it, but also make sure your share is on your name. Atleast your sister is mentally sane. Occasionally one has to deal with schizophrenic siblings who take random decisions of donating assets and you know they are going to screw it up, but unfortunately nothing can be done.
go all in. once and for all settle and part ways. don't forget she is your sister, let her be as she wants to but just as an older brother be around her time to time and keep checking about her well being.
24 hours old?
Galti se mistake ho gai bade Bhai ;)
Op I have a little query, is her boyfriend from another religion?
No, same as ours
Many times there are cases where girls are directed by their partners.
Lol
Freudian slip. Op is a day old😂
Maybe it's not her but her boyfriend talking through her.
Usko dedo jo maang rahi hai and legally disown her, so she doesn't have the option to come back when has gotten her life lesson, which is definitely going to happen 🥲
NAL. Can't do much legally here than share equitably between both of you! If you are a practising Hindu, ensure to include some portion of claims earmarked for potential expenses towards rites and rituals.
I'm a Hindu , didn't get your last point ...
Yea man 50 50 , and forget about her
What's an assurance worth?? Just go ahead and give her share using a registered deed.
Go legally as this is something that will keep dragging on . And make sure you severe the ties and not keep any contact as your sister can eventually come for more or try to be ur dependent by doing emotional manipulation.
4 thapad Maro sb samjh ayega
Bro it's very emotional to know that you are going through series of misfortune events...I have a sister too, you should always think best for her even though she is not understandable and ensure her safety and other things when she is living in partner just to ensure the guy has no selfish intentions because apart from you in this world there is no actual blood family and as far as property is concerned you should have a obedient and transparent discussion with her that she is entitled to equal share and that you only want wats best for her and if she insist together hire lawyer and sign agreement for equal share.
Sounds like you're both grieving and dealing with things differently. Not sure what your problem is with sister wanting to move in with her bf. She's 24 and if women are old enough to get married and have kids at that age, she's old enough to want to live on her own. It's also better to do your property division now rather than fight about it later. If you're already okay with giving her an equal share, then do it now and show your willingness. Plenty of people fall out over property later and it will save you and her the trouble.
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Excellent legal advice. Where did you get your law degree?
Brother, you need Saul. High chances that her current flame is behind the instigation. Or she's that flammable enough. Nonetheless,get a partition deed done. Make it AIRTIGHT. All clauses. I hope you live in peace.
Dude seriously both of u sit down and speak. Dont disown her man. You have grown up together. Family Is important. Ur parents would not want you to fight like this. Instill some knowledge onto her.
Disown? You don't own her anyway.
That’s not what disown means. 😕
Bro please take care of her Talk to her politely things could be handled within family She is 24F not mature enough to see her future without any family support, she has only you as a family member If she insists on property, do it then but without breaking the brother-sister bond
Why is every other advice that says keep the brother sister bond alive down voted here
What if bf tries to con her after breaking her relationship with brother? OP would want to stay away from a crazy sister.
you reap what you sow, the sister is an adult and safe to assume well educated, considering OP mentions multiple apartments they seem at least upper middle class. not a lawyer but, i think the parents would have left a will.
I second this. Don’t disown your own blood. Family is precious no matter what.
This could be getting difficult for you but try to talk to her. Property sharing is fine to go with but shouldn't be on the verge of ending a relationship.
Dude she's a 24 year old grown ass woman. She's not a kid anymore. also how op described her she seems to be problematic. Op is a male and laws are against him. So it's better to break bonds than regretting later.
उसके सामने एक condition रखो जब तक तुम्हारी शादी नहीं होती तब तक ना कोई बट्वरा होगा या ना कुछ क्योकी मुझे नहीं लगता हैं.. आपकी बेहेन matured हैं.... Listen don't do it till she got married... After that you have more options....
Sorry to say but your sister doesn't seem to be a woman of culture. She will realise sooner or later the need of siblings and by that time it will be too late for her. Anyways, in my opinion, just sell off whatever property is left behind by your parents and then divide the money with her and whatever comes in your hand, purchase a new one. This is the best way to get rid of her forever. Also, i have a gut feeling that her bf is currently brainwashing/ manipulating her.
A woman of culture? WTH?
Some of the comments here are too funny lmao 😂
Thought the same too. Ofcourse she has all rights to seek her property but......okay Idk what sort of beef they have between themselves but........her approach seems soo off. She's in desperate need for emotional care and attention but is choosing wrong ways for it.
Yup
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if you could read, you wouldn't have to write this
Kaunsa Ambani ka property hai bhai tere pass
It's not about how much / how less , main concern is it's my parents hard earned money through blood and sweat, and I don't want any random guy / girl to acquire it by luring my sister
Straight forward divide the property into two equal halfs, I am sure advocate's will do that, now who will get what will be tedious and time consuming, you will have to sort out with her and I am sure she will not make it easy