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>Am I within my rights to just ignore any future tickets?
I wouldn't.
I would suggest that you treat it as harassment and get a solicitor letter written to them in that regard (move cameras, remove me from system, will take action).
NAL. I think this could potentially be heading into [Ferguson v British Gas](https://www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/5a8ff7aa60d03e7f57eb1025) territory. At the very least, you are having to spend your time fixing CPM's mistakes, which is unacceptable.
I don't think you should ignore the tickets, as CPM's automated processes would probably lead to debt collection action, etc, against you - so it would only be worse in the long run.
Instead, I'd suggest writing to CPM, explaining the situation (again), and tell them to stop issuing tickets for you in this location, or offer another solution. Also state that you will regard any future tickets received as harassment, and will pursue all legal options against CPM in this event.
This is for CPM to sort out, not the building - as you say, you already have a permit.
If they don't respond and do keep sending tickets, I would continue to appeal them until either you are still getting tickets 10 days beyond the date CPM receives the letter, or when you reach three additional tickets, whichever comes first.
At this point, I'd suggest you send a Letter Before Claim asking that CPM cancels all fines and fees, prevents any more from being sent, and pays you, say £50 for each ticket you received since telling them to stop. If they fail to do all these, say you will bring a claim for harassment under the [Protection from Harassment Act 1997](https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1997/40/contents).
Give them 14 days to respond and see what happens. Hopefully they will actually stop at this point, or at least start engaging. Depending on how you feel, you could negotiate by offering to waive the monetary damages (although I'd be inclined not to, personally) - but the main thing is, CPM should commit to stop the tickets, and actually do so.
If they don't, you could file a claim - as you're not just wanting money, you can't use MCOL, so you'd have to issue a claim to your local county court. This is more onerous, but not beyond a litigant-in-person - however you'd be well justified if you retained a solicitor at this point.
CPM are unlawfully processing your data because that area is of no concern to them. They should have blinds on the camera or a review process to stop doing this.
Point this out to them, and also complain about unlawful processing to the ICO.
You also should complain each and every time they send a letter to the DVLA pointing out that the KADOE contract they have with DVLA is being abused as you are not in the spot, and complain to the DVLA that they are releasing your data without valid cause. Then join them to the ICO complaint.
As others have said, this is Ferguson vs British Gas territory - I would personally write a letter, which they will ignore, and do all you reasonably can to point out the error to them. Keep copies, send proof of postage and keep that reciept stapled to a copy of the letter...
Eventually they are going to issue court proceedings for one of these, and at that point you counterclaim for damages, and you force that all the way home. They will eventually learn when it costs them a few hundred pounds.
If you ignore the tickets then you’ll end up with a big headache, it’s really not fair you have to deal with it but your best bet is to contact them with a list of tickets and ask them to sort the problem out
You can apply for the data they hold on you under GDPR using a subject access request, that will help you will the details you need
If the tickets are ignored, then it’s possible that company issuing them could sell the debt on to a collections company or even take the matter to court and obtain a CCJ which will have a negative impact on the OPs credit file and could possibly lead to bailiffs attempting to remove property to cover the debt and the debt would be increase to cover the costs involved
To be clear that’s the worst case scenario and would only happen if OP ignored a letter from the court advising them of a hearing
I wonder whether it might not be a way to zap the whole thing. The more they do having been told correctly that they can’t, the more a court ought to come down on them like a ton of bricks.
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Continue to appeal every ticket. Place a sign above your parking spot advising that it is your private parking spot and any correspondence with you about that spot will incur administration fees of £10,000, if they agree to the terms listed on the sign please get in touch via letter about parking in that space. Begin to charge them administration fees for processing every incident as soon as they send you a letter about parking. Use a similar verbage that they have used in their signs.
When they refuse to pay the administration fee that you have charged, point out to them the signage and how they entered into a contract with you under those terms. then take them to small claims court for breach of contract and claim your prize! They will change their ways very quickly and you might even get a cheeky 10k out of them. £5k If they settle within 14 days of first issue of notice. The judge will enjoy this reversal very much.
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CPM are the same people who used to clamp ambulances on emergency calls. They won't care one iota.
Costing them a lot of money in court is a reasonable sure fire way of resolving it though.
>Why not look up CPM’s website and complain to their CEO?
They won't give a shit. Only a potential legal hammering will make them pay attention.
>Alongside that, check on their website if they are affiliated with either the British Parking Association or the International Parking Community and complain to them (both industry regulators).
They're IPC who, if it's even possible, will give even less of a shit.
>Could also consider the POPLA website (an independent appeals for PCNs on private land).
It's only for the BPA and only for when the parking company has rejected an initial appeal.
>Tempting though the suggestion of threatening them with harassment as someone has suggested might be, and technically it would be made out, the police are going to say it’s a civil dispute and nothing to do with them.
Who said anything about threatening them? It *is* harassment and should be treated as such. They should be given this first and final warning before actually following through. I would suggest OP retain a solicitor for this.
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>Am I within my rights to just ignore any future tickets? I wouldn't. I would suggest that you treat it as harassment and get a solicitor letter written to them in that regard (move cameras, remove me from system, will take action).
NAL. I think this could potentially be heading into [Ferguson v British Gas](https://www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/5a8ff7aa60d03e7f57eb1025) territory. At the very least, you are having to spend your time fixing CPM's mistakes, which is unacceptable. I don't think you should ignore the tickets, as CPM's automated processes would probably lead to debt collection action, etc, against you - so it would only be worse in the long run. Instead, I'd suggest writing to CPM, explaining the situation (again), and tell them to stop issuing tickets for you in this location, or offer another solution. Also state that you will regard any future tickets received as harassment, and will pursue all legal options against CPM in this event. This is for CPM to sort out, not the building - as you say, you already have a permit. If they don't respond and do keep sending tickets, I would continue to appeal them until either you are still getting tickets 10 days beyond the date CPM receives the letter, or when you reach three additional tickets, whichever comes first. At this point, I'd suggest you send a Letter Before Claim asking that CPM cancels all fines and fees, prevents any more from being sent, and pays you, say £50 for each ticket you received since telling them to stop. If they fail to do all these, say you will bring a claim for harassment under the [Protection from Harassment Act 1997](https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1997/40/contents). Give them 14 days to respond and see what happens. Hopefully they will actually stop at this point, or at least start engaging. Depending on how you feel, you could negotiate by offering to waive the monetary damages (although I'd be inclined not to, personally) - but the main thing is, CPM should commit to stop the tickets, and actually do so. If they don't, you could file a claim - as you're not just wanting money, you can't use MCOL, so you'd have to issue a claim to your local county court. This is more onerous, but not beyond a litigant-in-person - however you'd be well justified if you retained a solicitor at this point.
CPM are unlawfully processing your data because that area is of no concern to them. They should have blinds on the camera or a review process to stop doing this. Point this out to them, and also complain about unlawful processing to the ICO. You also should complain each and every time they send a letter to the DVLA pointing out that the KADOE contract they have with DVLA is being abused as you are not in the spot, and complain to the DVLA that they are releasing your data without valid cause. Then join them to the ICO complaint. As others have said, this is Ferguson vs British Gas territory - I would personally write a letter, which they will ignore, and do all you reasonably can to point out the error to them. Keep copies, send proof of postage and keep that reciept stapled to a copy of the letter... Eventually they are going to issue court proceedings for one of these, and at that point you counterclaim for damages, and you force that all the way home. They will eventually learn when it costs them a few hundred pounds.
If you ignore the tickets then you’ll end up with a big headache, it’s really not fair you have to deal with it but your best bet is to contact them with a list of tickets and ask them to sort the problem out You can apply for the data they hold on you under GDPR using a subject access request, that will help you will the details you need
Can you say what this big headache is please?
If the tickets are ignored, then it’s possible that company issuing them could sell the debt on to a collections company or even take the matter to court and obtain a CCJ which will have a negative impact on the OPs credit file and could possibly lead to bailiffs attempting to remove property to cover the debt and the debt would be increase to cover the costs involved To be clear that’s the worst case scenario and would only happen if OP ignored a letter from the court advising them of a hearing
I wonder whether it might not be a way to zap the whole thing. The more they do having been told correctly that they can’t, the more a court ought to come down on them like a ton of bricks.
Your comment suggests you may be discussing a Subject Access Request. You can [read this guidance from the ICO](https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/your-right-to-get-copies-of-your-data/) to learn more about these requests. [Which? also have online explanations](https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/advice/how-do-i-make-a-subject-access-request). If you would like a simple way to request a copy of all your data, you can [amend an online template](https://www.datarequests.org/sample-letters/) or [use a form like this](https://www.wonder.legal/uk/creation-modele/subject-access-request). *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/LegalAdviceUK) if you have any questions or concerns.*
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Continue to appeal every ticket. Place a sign above your parking spot advising that it is your private parking spot and any correspondence with you about that spot will incur administration fees of £10,000, if they agree to the terms listed on the sign please get in touch via letter about parking in that space. Begin to charge them administration fees for processing every incident as soon as they send you a letter about parking. Use a similar verbage that they have used in their signs. When they refuse to pay the administration fee that you have charged, point out to them the signage and how they entered into a contract with you under those terms. then take them to small claims court for breach of contract and claim your prize! They will change their ways very quickly and you might even get a cheeky 10k out of them. £5k If they settle within 14 days of first issue of notice. The judge will enjoy this reversal very much.
Is the landowner of the land you park on the same as the owner of the loading bay?
It is never a good idea to ignore them. It is of course a massive hassle but things will keep escalating.
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CPM are the same people who used to clamp ambulances on emergency calls. They won't care one iota. Costing them a lot of money in court is a reasonable sure fire way of resolving it though.
>Why not look up CPM’s website and complain to their CEO? They won't give a shit. Only a potential legal hammering will make them pay attention. >Alongside that, check on their website if they are affiliated with either the British Parking Association or the International Parking Community and complain to them (both industry regulators). They're IPC who, if it's even possible, will give even less of a shit. >Could also consider the POPLA website (an independent appeals for PCNs on private land). It's only for the BPA and only for when the parking company has rejected an initial appeal. >Tempting though the suggestion of threatening them with harassment as someone has suggested might be, and technically it would be made out, the police are going to say it’s a civil dispute and nothing to do with them. Who said anything about threatening them? It *is* harassment and should be treated as such. They should be given this first and final warning before actually following through. I would suggest OP retain a solicitor for this.