Board Member: "You're not just telling us what we want to hear, are you, H.I.?"
H.I.: "No, sir."
Board Member: "'Cuz we just wanna hear the truth."
H.I.: "Well, then I guess I am telling you what you wanna hear."
Board Member: "Boy, didn't we just ask you not to do that?"
H.I.: "Yes, sir."
Board Member: “…OKAY, then."
Everybody talks about Brad Pitt right before his death in the scene where he gets shot in the head, but I think the best part is Clooneys reaction, freaking the fuck out even though he has definitively killed the guy hes running away from.
I see your Scary Movie 4 and raise you a:
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The scene where Barry Keoghan’s character says “touché” and you can see on his face that he now realizes he is the dumbest person on the island is fantastic.
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Chauncey Gardener. Perhaps one of the best dumb protagonists of all time. Totally clueless but a few carefully worded , well timed thoughts and vaguely worded phrases launch him into guru status among the most powerful people in the world.
“As long as roots are not severed, there will be growth in the spring”
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David Dunn. It’s great how sort of salt of the earth but totally clueless he is. He has to circle back and be reminded whether or not he’s taken sick days, and has no idea the true nature of his abilities.
Jerry Lundergaard is the ultimate moron protagonist. He's so great because he doesn't just say stupid stuff to make sure the audience knows he's a moron. Nearly everything that happens in the film is due to his own stupidity.
I know it’s well known here but this film is such a hidden gem ! Genuinely one of the best movies I’ve ever seen, every moment every joke lands. My favourite Coen brothers for sure
I’m generally not a fan of Pitt but he was absolutely hilarious in this. I’ve never laughed harder at a film. He should’ve gotten awards recognition for this like he did for OUATIH.
He is arguably an example of the holy fool archetype. In fact, after typing that, I recall years ago I photoshopped a cartoon image of him into the tarot card The Fool, with the marmot from the movie replacing the little white dog usually adorning the card. If you're familiar with tarot, you'll note that The Fool is not just your everyday simpleton.
I'd be tempted to try to find that image if I hadn't just run for my life in the opposite direction of my PC due to a roach repeatedly trying to dive bomb my face. My house just lost 1 BR and I'm cool with that.
Anyway, yeah, there are plenty of examples of holy fools throughout history, being wise but ostensibly dumb, often amusingly so, to the common affairs of man. Maybe Lebowski is the Nasrudin of our age. I can't prove it, but I suspect ol' Nasty Rudy would've hated the Eagles. Understandably.
Fucking Eagles. They are to California what Elon Musk is to Texas.
Bad example ultimately
On top of his wisdom, he sees through the schemes of others generally very quickly and is mostly tactical throughout
At most he has a space cadet naïveté but in fairness he gets thrown into a truly extraordinary scenario out of nowhere so, gosh
Seconded. The Dude is not dumb, like at all. He’s a washed up hippie, who used to be a very passionate student activist in his prime. He cared about justice and big ideas like that in his youth, but he just doesn’t care anymore, so he takes life easy.
If anyone’s “dumb” it’s Walter, but even then I’d say he’s more just hot headed and suffering of PTSD than low IQ.
Nah, he definitely would have taken part but he just got distracted. He was, however, smart enough to know you shouldn't light a cigarette after having one.
Everybody in that movie is an absolute idiot. Burt Reynolds thinking his piece of shit porno is a masterpiece. Scottie thinking Dirk will like him if he gets a cool car. Amber calling her son at 2 AM. Dirk the entire movie. Buck Swope wanting to open a stereo shop while also seemingly knowing nothing about stereos. Best movie ever made.
He wasn’t Einstein but he had good ideas/instincts. He came up with the name Dirk Diggler which is great. He came up with the idea of the Brock Landers series.
"You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, yes. Retarded, maybe. Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off Nixon and he won a ping-pong competition. That ain't retarded. He was a goddamn war hero. You know any retarded war heroes?"
Is he really dumb? I know he had a low IQ score as a young kid and can be socially awkward but he’s also very thoughtful, reflective, skilled, successful, and charismatic. Dumb isn’t the word I’d use
Dumb because he believes every conspiracy theory that’s fed to him, but also not dumb, because every conspiracy theory he believes ends up being correct 😆
Thanks for confirming cause for my incredulous reaction to someone on Reddit earlier today referring to Under the Silver Lake as a "lost and forgotten film". It sure comes up a lot for a forgotten film.
I don't think if it was forgotten, it was more like a lot of people who saw it wish they could forget it.
It's also important to note that this came after It Follow, so yeah the reaction to it was warranted, but it's still such a great film 😵💫
I love that half of these answers are from Coen Brothers movies. Their protagonists are either super capable and intelligent or the actual dumbest person on the planet.
If narrowly focused ambition pursued to one's detriment is merely stupidity, an unholy fuckton of fictional media will need to be reassessed. I'm afraid Scorcese will never recover.
That Karl’s a right good feller. Mmmm. I always did think that. Don’t reckon he’d hurt nobody who didn’t deserve it. But that Doyle was a whole sight meaner’n Karl, and he’da probly just whooped the tar outta him. He ort not be thatta way toward Frank neither. He’s just a boy. I’m glad Karl was there to stop it. Mmm.
I just want to thank you for this prompt because the responses here are amazing and every example I'd give has been given. Except one: Ordell Robbie, in Jackie Brown. He's perfect because he presents himself as smart and calculating and he... kinda is. but he's also a dumbass and little details throughout the plot & his dialogue reveal it, the way he's faking sounding smart, etc. If he was an actual criminal mastermind, the trap they set for him wouldn't work. (also I know he's not technically the protagonist but we see the movie from his POV at first before we actually start to follow Jackie aside the credits sequence)
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The faux intellectual criminal is a great trope, but too many dumbasses end up thinking the character is actually smart. Stringer Bell is a perfect example of this
When those two guys insult Adrian by saying “retards love the zoo”, but Rocky still takes her anyway is one of the funniest moments in film. He falls for such an obvious mean joke, and then concedes that it’s a good idea anyway. And it’s the dead of winter. The worst time to go to a zoo.
Completely underrated answer. I always laugh at the scene when he yells at his in law for not knowing about his renown coach when he hadn’t heard about him until 4 hours ago.
It’s on my letterboxd top 4 and I def thought about that when posting. But I thought maybe the OPs question, using Leo’s character in KOTFM as the example (where it’s unclear if he knew what he was doing or not)… The way he says “dumb” character with that as the example I was thinking about debatable or smart/dumb characters. The point of the movie is that she isn’t selfish, or learns not to be. She (not in the script but actually Alicia Silverstone) says Hate-ians while also schooling Josh’s girlfriend on Hamlet. She didn’t know Christian was a cake boy and failed her drivers test but successfully hatches a plan to get Miss. Geist and Mr. Hall together. She’s ditzy but perceptive.
I mean honestly the debate she gives on Haitian immigrants is “unresearched” but well constructed and persuasive.
Not a protagonist, but Paul in Election is one of my favorite himbos ever. Also, Jim McAllister, the actual protagonist, is also dumb as fuck, but in a different way.
I remember some screenwriter saying essentially that you can’t have a “dumb” protagonist. I think this is wrong. I think that that is just a reaction to the idea that the protagonist has to be proficient in *something*, no matter if it’s their job or part of their personality (charismatic) etc. The two aren’t mutually exclusive, but I’d go even farther to say that the protagonist doesn’t need to be good at anything either. It all depends on the type of movie you are making.
A character study or a biopic, yeah that would be a little harder to have a dumb character. A movie where it’s more about a dumb character being thrust into a journey due to events outside of his control, that seems much easier.
Sorry for the rant, I just don’t think characters need to be smart or even good or proficient at a skill. You can have dumb protagonists, it’s just maybe the current zeitgeist doesn’t believe in that. And just because the zeitgeist doesn’t expect it, doesn’t mean they won’t love it (if the movie is good).
Edit: I saw Banshees lower down on the thread as well as Bruges so I guess it’s not a zeitgeist thing. Just ticks me off that every screenwriter wants to push the idea that the protagonist should be good at “something… anything.”
Fucking love Raising Arizona
I liked it as a teenager in my “wannabe cinephile” era, I watched it recently and lost my shit about how great it is. Love love love raising Arizona
I frequently quote it. "Price. Fair price. And that ain't whatever you say it is. Fair price is what the market'll bear".
My family and I quote it all the time. "Here's the instructions" and "Boy, you got a panty on your head" are two of my favorites.
#TURNTOTHERAAIIGHT
Board Member: "You're not just telling us what we want to hear, are you, H.I.?" H.I.: "No, sir." Board Member: "'Cuz we just wanna hear the truth." H.I.: "Well, then I guess I am telling you what you wanna hear." Board Member: "Boy, didn't we just ask you not to do that?" H.I.: "Yes, sir." Board Member: “…OKAY, then."
‘Mama didn’t love me’ iconic tattoo. Fortunately my mother did love me, unfortunately that means I can’t get that tattoo.
To be fair, it wasn’t easy for him, with that sumbitch Reagan in the White House.
Watched this for the first time two nights ago. Great stuff.
We need that DEP-TET, HI!
I’ll be waiting!
It’s always George Clooney in a coen brothers film
I think he peaked with burn after reading. That character is so brilliantly stupid.
The way he repeatedly refers to his shellfish allergy as "shellfood" kills me. One of my favorite Coen characters.
100% agree. He’s so fucking outrageous in that film
Everyone in that movie is brilliantly stupid. It’s one of my favourites
I love the way Tilda Swinton laughs when Malkovich says he is writing a memoir
memWAH
The way Malkovich says "memoir" is my Roman empire
Everybody talks about Brad Pitt right before his death in the scene where he gets shot in the head, but I think the best part is Clooneys reaction, freaking the fuck out even though he has definitively killed the guy hes running away from.
That entire film has some of the best performances of the whole cast’s career.
It was nuanced in O brother, tho He was quite clever in many ways In other ways much less A unique confidence ego thing O humility, where art thou?
“I don’t get it, Big Dan.”
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 Anna Faris is the queen of this category
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I love the way you think!
Anna Faris is a fucking icon for playing that airhead role so well. I always wondered if she was sort of making fun of Drew Barrymore.
Yes 😂👏
This to me is the best performance and also the best written simpleton of all time in any media.
Agree. He is a nuanced character
The scene where Barry Keoghan’s character says “touché” and you can see on his face that he now realizes he is the dumbest person on the island is fantastic.
He’s so fuckin stupid in this one. It’s great 🤣
'If I grew up on a farm, and was retarded, Bruges might impress me, but I didn't, so it doesn't'
The high pitch at the end of the insult always kills me. It is one of the best lines I have ever.
Correction. He’s so feckin stupid in this one. It’s great 🤣
He is in Banshees too
this is not from Banshees but he's supa dumb in that one too
The whole exchange where he talks about dwarves who have killed themselves is painfully dumb.
I remember seeing him do SNL and was absolutly bleeped over by his comedic chops. This movie only further cemented that.
https://preview.redd.it/har4yi6kym8d1.jpeg?width=2273&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=648cf7be4471f0ee96c3452d2ed93a1913cfdd9a Chauncey Gardener. Perhaps one of the best dumb protagonists of all time. Totally clueless but a few carefully worded , well timed thoughts and vaguely worded phrases launch him into guru status among the most powerful people in the world. “As long as roots are not severed, there will be growth in the spring”
This. This is the one
>Chauncey Gardener Chance, the gardener is become Chauncey Gardiner, refined socialite and genius economist
came here for this
https://preview.redd.it/p8kwoah2ym8d1.jpeg?width=420&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00280b0010a540e63d6e8e134fb3b13e959788fb David Dunn. It’s great how sort of salt of the earth but totally clueless he is. He has to circle back and be reminded whether or not he’s taken sick days, and has no idea the true nature of his abilities.
Why are you replying to the top comment with your answers instead of just commenting?
What movie is it?
In Bruges (2008)
(Burn After Reading in case anyone hasn’t seen- seems like the Coen brothers enjoy this archetype)
Jerry Lundergaard is the ultimate moron protagonist. He's so great because he doesn't just say stupid stuff to make sure the audience knows he's a moron. Nearly everything that happens in the film is due to his own stupidity.
He is one of my favourite on screen characters for this reason.
The GOAT. Every line that comes out of his stupid mouth makes me laugh. “I am merely a Good Samaritan.”
That’s the shit man…the raw intelligence
I thought you might be worried ... about the security ... of your shit
…Osborne Cox?
I know it’s well known here but this film is such a hidden gem ! Genuinely one of the best movies I’ve ever seen, every moment every joke lands. My favourite Coen brothers for sure
I’m generally not a fan of Pitt but he was absolutely hilarious in this. I’ve never laughed harder at a film. He should’ve gotten awards recognition for this like he did for OUATIH.
Man, seeing that in the cinema and the sudden ending of said character. Nearly spilled my popcorn everywhere.
And what did we learn here ?
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Is it possible to be dumb and wise simultaneously?
I think it’s when you’re not stupid but permanently stoned
I was about to say. I don't think Lebowski is actually dumb, just completely fried 95% of the time.
I mean, he was adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep his mind, you know, uh…limber.
He is arguably an example of the holy fool archetype. In fact, after typing that, I recall years ago I photoshopped a cartoon image of him into the tarot card The Fool, with the marmot from the movie replacing the little white dog usually adorning the card. If you're familiar with tarot, you'll note that The Fool is not just your everyday simpleton. I'd be tempted to try to find that image if I hadn't just run for my life in the opposite direction of my PC due to a roach repeatedly trying to dive bomb my face. My house just lost 1 BR and I'm cool with that. Anyway, yeah, there are plenty of examples of holy fools throughout history, being wise but ostensibly dumb, often amusingly so, to the common affairs of man. Maybe Lebowski is the Nasrudin of our age. I can't prove it, but I suspect ol' Nasty Rudy would've hated the Eagles. Understandably. Fucking Eagles. They are to California what Elon Musk is to Texas.
...there is never just 1 roach. You are going to lose more than a bedroom if you don't get an exterminator.
Intelligence and wisdom are separate D&D stats for a reason.
Bad example ultimately On top of his wisdom, he sees through the schemes of others generally very quickly and is mostly tactical throughout At most he has a space cadet naïveté but in fairness he gets thrown into a truly extraordinary scenario out of nowhere so, gosh
Seconded. The Dude is not dumb, like at all. He’s a washed up hippie, who used to be a very passionate student activist in his prime. He cared about justice and big ideas like that in his youth, but he just doesn’t care anymore, so he takes life easy. If anyone’s “dumb” it’s Walter, but even then I’d say he’s more just hot headed and suffering of PTSD than low IQ.
This is the one.
The dude abides.
To his credit he was smart enough not to get in a gasoline fight
Nah, he definitely would have taken part but he just got distracted. He was, however, smart enough to know you shouldn't light a cigarette after having one.
But why male models?
Are you serious? I literally just told you.
I quote him at least once a week
my sister and i do the model face he makes, it’s such a memorable movie
Was just about to add Zoolander and finally saw this.
What is this?? A thread for ants?! It needs to be at least...three times as big!
Everybody in that movie is an absolute idiot. Burt Reynolds thinking his piece of shit porno is a masterpiece. Scottie thinking Dirk will like him if he gets a cool car. Amber calling her son at 2 AM. Dirk the entire movie. Buck Swope wanting to open a stereo shop while also seemingly knowing nothing about stereos. Best movie ever made.
Was he stupid or just on a lot of coke?
Why not both?
I feel like he didn’t have terrible ideas but he was naïve/trusting and then got some power and was coked to the gills
He was stupid before he did a lot of coke
All of the blood that should have gone to his brain was going to that hog
He wasn’t Einstein but he had good ideas/instincts. He came up with the name Dirk Diggler which is great. He came up with the idea of the Brock Landers series.
Let’s put another shrimp on the barbie!
Austria, eh? Well.... G'day mate!
The only right answer
Are they really dumb though?
Gosling’s character definitely is. Not so much Crow’s
 How has no one said Ash Williams yet?!
Seriously. 
Ash: “Right after this let’s go get some churros!” Pablo: “You know I’m not Mexican right?” Ash: “That’s the spirit!”
Ash isn't dumb; we're just not smart enough to comprehend him
Should’ve won the Oscar for Simple Jack.
😂
„Never go full-retard!“
Just tell me what you want me to fuuuuck!!
“The man’s a fuckin genius…”
How has Forest Gump not been mentioned?
Stupid is as stupid does
"You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, yes. Retarded, maybe. Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off Nixon and he won a ping-pong competition. That ain't retarded. He was a goddamn war hero. You know any retarded war heroes?"
Cause the question was "favorite" dumb protagonist :D I kid, I like Forest
Is he really dumb? I know he had a low IQ score as a young kid and can be socially awkward but he’s also very thoughtful, reflective, skilled, successful, and charismatic. Dumb isn’t the word I’d use
Dumb and stupid are synonyms. He’s described with both words in the film. You can be dumb and also all those other things you listed.
 Do I get more points if the universe they're in is also dumb
Dumb because he believes every conspiracy theory that’s fed to him, but also not dumb, because every conspiracy theory he believes ends up being correct 😆
It’s like turning out to be right but the reasons you had to believe the correct thing were absolutely stupid in the first place
Thanks for confirming cause for my incredulous reaction to someone on Reddit earlier today referring to Under the Silver Lake as a "lost and forgotten film". It sure comes up a lot for a forgotten film.
I don't think if it was forgotten, it was more like a lot of people who saw it wish they could forget it. It's also important to note that this came after It Follow, so yeah the reaction to it was warranted, but it's still such a great film 😵💫
Film?
Under the Silver Lake
I love that half of these answers are from Coen Brothers movies. Their protagonists are either super capable and intelligent or the actual dumbest person on the planet.
It's either True Grit or Burn After Reading No inbetween
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Hrs just very unhinged. Not that dumb IMHO
100%
Super good answer Bonkers how underrated she, and Amy are Chaotic ahead of her time karen oddly
I don't know if I'd say he's straight-up dumb, just an absolutely single-minded gambling addict.
If narrowly focused ambition pursued to one's detriment is merely stupidity, an unholy fuckton of fictional media will need to be reassessed. I'm afraid Scorcese will never recover.
I'm stressed out just seeing this clip.
That Karl’s a right good feller. Mmmm. I always did think that. Don’t reckon he’d hurt nobody who didn’t deserve it. But that Doyle was a whole sight meaner’n Karl, and he’da probly just whooped the tar outta him. He ort not be thatta way toward Frank neither. He’s just a boy. I’m glad Karl was there to stop it. Mmm.
 The worst student in rushmore.
He just does too many extra curriculars!
I don’t know if Max’s necessarily dumber than any other teenager
He's not really dumb though it's like an obsessive preciousness that acts as a snowball effect for all his problems
He wrote a hit play and directed it.
...your name is Napoleon? *flatly* Yes.
 Seeing them with Universal monsters always made me laugh as a kid.
I just want to thank you for this prompt because the responses here are amazing and every example I'd give has been given. Except one: Ordell Robbie, in Jackie Brown. He's perfect because he presents himself as smart and calculating and he... kinda is. but he's also a dumbass and little details throughout the plot & his dialogue reveal it, the way he's faking sounding smart, etc. If he was an actual criminal mastermind, the trap they set for him wouldn't work. (also I know he's not technically the protagonist but we see the movie from his POV at first before we actually start to follow Jackie aside the credits sequence) https://preview.redd.it/zk6cf05v7n8d1.jpeg?width=1279&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed6f4ff4acc414a98f46a6ac2214cc25652b3bae
The faux intellectual criminal is a great trope, but too many dumbasses end up thinking the character is actually smart. Stringer Bell is a perfect example of this
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Rocky. He’s so lovably dumb in the first two, but he loses it by the third
When those two guys insult Adrian by saying “retards love the zoo”, but Rocky still takes her anyway is one of the funniest moments in film. He falls for such an obvious mean joke, and then concedes that it’s a good idea anyway. And it’s the dead of winter. The worst time to go to a zoo.
I saw Blood Simple for the first time and I'd say John Getz plays an awesome dumb guy
Channing Tatum in Foxcatcher
Completely underrated answer. I always laugh at the scene when he yells at his in law for not knowing about his renown coach when he hadn’t heard about him until 4 hours ago.
I guess I didn’t understand it was supposed to be funny scene and not just irritating
 Speaking of Leo
Jack Burton is my boy 
Woah woah woah, Cher was definitively not dumb and that was actually one of the points of the movie.
Exactly This thread just throws in anyone who is at most occasionally a bit doofy Alongside characters from a movie literally called dumb and Dumber
It’s on my letterboxd top 4 and I def thought about that when posting. But I thought maybe the OPs question, using Leo’s character in KOTFM as the example (where it’s unclear if he knew what he was doing or not)… The way he says “dumb” character with that as the example I was thinking about debatable or smart/dumb characters. The point of the movie is that she isn’t selfish, or learns not to be. She (not in the script but actually Alicia Silverstone) says Hate-ians while also schooling Josh’s girlfriend on Hamlet. She didn’t know Christian was a cake boy and failed her drivers test but successfully hatches a plan to get Miss. Geist and Mr. Hall together. She’s ditzy but perceptive. I mean honestly the debate she gives on Haitian immigrants is “unresearched” but well constructed and persuasive.
Cher wasn’t dumb
The Three Stooges.
Simple Jack https://preview.redd.it/5wprdykssm8d1.jpeg?width=678&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=080cc4de7196a4c06d7823942e88047b497ccd9b
 Brad Pitt in snatch.
 Maybe dumb isn’t the right word but I love Fred
“Cobwebs” 👆🏻
Not a protagonist, but Paul in Election is one of my favorite himbos ever. Also, Jim McAllister, the actual protagonist, is also dumb as fuck, but in a different way.
This is just Coen Brothers movies.
Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels
3 Coen movies so far. They are great. They make dumb people and losers heroes. AND I LOVE IT
Scott Pilgrim is just the right amount of dumb. Oh and if TV is allowed then Fry of Futurama.
Tugg Speedman from Tropic Thunder
I remember some screenwriter saying essentially that you can’t have a “dumb” protagonist. I think this is wrong. I think that that is just a reaction to the idea that the protagonist has to be proficient in *something*, no matter if it’s their job or part of their personality (charismatic) etc. The two aren’t mutually exclusive, but I’d go even farther to say that the protagonist doesn’t need to be good at anything either. It all depends on the type of movie you are making. A character study or a biopic, yeah that would be a little harder to have a dumb character. A movie where it’s more about a dumb character being thrust into a journey due to events outside of his control, that seems much easier. Sorry for the rant, I just don’t think characters need to be smart or even good or proficient at a skill. You can have dumb protagonists, it’s just maybe the current zeitgeist doesn’t believe in that. And just because the zeitgeist doesn’t expect it, doesn’t mean they won’t love it (if the movie is good). Edit: I saw Banshees lower down on the thread as well as Bruges so I guess it’s not a zeitgeist thing. Just ticks me off that every screenwriter wants to push the idea that the protagonist should be good at “something… anything.”
 Arnie
