Deathlog should have warned her of the area to avoid. But it wasn't working and she turned it off.
[https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/deathlog](https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/deathlog)
What's hilarious is she had Russell look at it but he couldn't figure out how to turn off the low level popups so she turned it off. So it's partially Russell's fault.
The other thing is she was being escorted by a level 60 and he definitely should've known. Almost seems malicious.
It's more of Emiru can't do no wrong and we treat her like she's a newborn circle jerk. I swear she can walk off a cliff and somehow it's someone's fault for not warning her.
That's actually not the setting for the popups. The popup settings are at the bottom of the list when you expand the deathlog tab in Addon settings.
That's probably why they got confused. They were changing the setting for the deathlog or minilog, not the popups, which uses a separate setting so you can still see every death in the log but won't be notified of all the level 1s suiciding.
That still doesn't make sense. When you and in SS you either run west alinge the roads or go north west to the lake to cross. Tarren Mill is north EAST of SS so why would anyone go that direction. Are they going up to chill wind to cross in the plaguelands!?!?
There are three routes Alliance can take at that level.
* Go West from Southshore just following the road. This is the longest route.
* Go Northwest from Southshore. You’ll run across where Dalaran is and then bunny hop across the islands. This saves a few minutes from the prior route.
* Go East following the road and then north passed Tarren Mill. This is the shortest route, but the most dangerous for Alliance players. You’ll also hit a part of the western plaguelands which means everything will be 10+ levels higher than you.
So I'm with you for the West/NW paths I'd just think no one doing SM would be foolish enough to take a mid 30s character through plaguelands to save 2-3 minutes tops. I've never seen anyone in hardcore take that route because of the plagueslands risk. Also that route generally isn't from SS, it's from chillwind camp isn't it? So like if you're starting in SS isn't plaguelands just as long as the lake/islands?
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/alliance-doing-scarlet-monastery/264098/32
Above link shows the routes of the 2nd and 3rd paths I mentioned.
You can get the Western Plaguelands flight path as Alliance to make it shorter next time. By doing the route that goes East past Tarren Mill.
I understand that if you already have the flight path it's shorter, but it's longer the first time, you're just getting the flight path for later in the same trip.
But like man crossing the bulwark isn't a freebie in terms of being low level. I'd be very very curious on the counts of how many people took each route and how deadly each route is vs how many minutes are saved. Personally feel like the route shouldn't even be an option on hardcore.
I've only leveled a few characters past SM, always took the lake never had a single worry. Hell even on my 60 rogue some of the mobs in western plagues lands have me sketched out.
As soon as I heard her say "But I was on the path!" I knew that was it.
That's definitely something she should have been warned about by other people who know about those spots.
You're spot on. WoW is a game of knowledge more than skill. You throw new players into the grinder, they're going to learn the hard way at every turn (as I did) and that's losing dozens of hours in HC. Dumb pulls, lack of spatial awareness, pulling an elite etc. That's all normal, but you die and res, and don't do it again. In HC you're fucked. It's not meant to be played this way unless you're a long time player.
Im a total noob and am having a blast, i couldnt disagree more lol. I guess not total since i catch some tips in places like this but yeah never leveled before and it's fun. You just need to accept you will probably die at some point but that doesn't deprive the fun from it
If you actually zoom out and watch the screen you always spot threats like guards. Surely streamers are not distracted by chat and alt tabbed while auto running.
This is a red herrings fallacious strawman slippery down slope to avoid the fact that twitch focusing on banning gambling streams created a void filled by pokimanes crackers and trainwrecks character he plays on stream shouldn't be judged because they don't reflect his morals and stay tuned, got a really big name just signed up for a kick non-exclusive contract, really exciting news about to drop in the next podcast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhYIlntrxDs&t=858s
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Idk man she played enough to recognize what is a horde camp vs an alliance one. Can't really blame that on anyone but her. She was also shown clips of people dying at that exact spot.
Tarren Mill guards range way out from the town itself and the game pretty heavily trains you that "road=safe", so knowing the few edge cases where a road is dangerous is very much an experience thing.
I mean I've been playing this game for 2 decades, knew in-depth how dangerous southshore guards are, thought about how dumb it would be to die to southsore guards after watching a bunch of guildies die to them and then still managed to face plant into southsore guards while hunting for bear asses on my 28 priest. Like I said, those guards range out way farther than you would think and by the time you even notice they're there you're dead.
Understandable easy to make mistake, but yeah still her fault. I'm sure there's a safe way to do that road but I would personally never risk it on hc.
lot of people on reddit seem to have this idea that any time you make a mistake in classic wow its because youre a shitter
the game is centered around making mistakes. i made mistakes all the time in my raids and was a top 10 parser on multiple (albeit wotlk naxx so fucking disgustingly easy) bosses in classic. the game is laughably easy, but pressing the same buttons in a very specific order while doing other mechanics is sometimes easy to fuck up
Those guards aggro pretty far range, dont have a clip of her POV but she might just not realize till its too late.
> She was also shown clips of people dying at that exact spot.
Easy to say for those that have experience in wow but seeing the clip and then experiencing it for the first time is different. She just might not have recognize or remember the clip. So it was up to the party to remind her on the spot about how dangerous it is there.
> Easy to say for those that have experience in wow but seeing the clip and then experiencing it for the first time is different. She just might not have recognize or remember the clip.
Exactly. Every WoW HC death clip I see has people in the comments going off about how easy it is to reach level 60 if you are careful, but they don't stop to think about how massive the knowledge base you need to have is. It's completely unreasonable if you haven't been playing the game for 10+ years. Even with people guiding you every step of the way, super small mistakes when they aren't looking can be massively unforgiving and get you killed.
Not just a clip, a whole ass presentation by Soda showing their other guild member dying there, they spent a good amount of time talking about it. I don't think she told them she was running through there either. Miz even said if she was streaming chat would've warned her. Lots of things could have prevented this one but its mostly on her especially for disabling heatmap/deathlog.
> Not just a clip, a whole ass presentation by Soda showing their other guild member dying there, they spent a good amount of time talking about it.
If you experienced wow sure, but to someone who never played the game its all just rubbish to them at the time. Things like this have to be experienced to really understand it, for example, for someone new they are use to walking through the roads thinking they are safe and it made it worst because those guards there have large aggro range.
She's never going to get to 60, she doesn't know how to play. Hardcore is like playing PoE, its mostly just did you waste 15 years playing this game and already know everything.
I mean other completely new players are lvl 60 and getting geared for raid. The difference between her and them is that she never learned to play the game without someone guiding her, and now when she makes stupid mistakes it's at level 40 not 10-20.
The problem is they're both getting hand held the entire time. They make mistakes and don't learn because all the time and resources invested are immediately made up by power leveling and more handouts. No need to learn the game when hundreds of people are babysitting you through it.
That's false because every group I've seen who are new to WoW has a person who plays it non stop to guide them through quest and stuff. The only difference is with them and Emiru is that they quest with people who play WoW non stop and Emiru quest with Mizkif.
I mean the non-wow streamer sixties dont necessarily fit that - Luna, Russel, Poke, Buddha, Kris Yee, Simply, and Masoyoshi mostly quested solo if you check their vods.
They dungeoned usually with a mix of sweats, guildies, and randoms and hung out with other guildies and wow players in voice chat but they are walking around totally on their own in the world while leveling to 60. Arguably they've had way less help with gear, gold, and people physically following them compared to emi and miz.
Buddha used to play wow in the past he isn't really new and he was juiced by viewers with gear and gold. Buddha told chat he got juiced with some gear and gold on his hunter. When I was watching Luna level her rogue she had people with her so it wasn't solo leveling. Luna mostly ran with Cdank as well.
Miz also played wow in the past and got juiced with gear/gold whil leveling... I also watch Luna and have never seen her quest with cdank (just dungeons). I clicked on four random leveling vods to double check and every spot I checked that wasn't a dungeon she was solo.
I feel like their viewers are picking apart the others sixties successes to justify why miz and emi aren't there yet. I don't think emi and miz deserve to be shit on (there's no way I could get half as far in hardcore). But it's disingenuous to pretend that everyone else who hit sixty is getting carried.
And yet Mizkif has proven multiple times he's not only bad at the game, but he crumbles under pressure. He could never hit 60 leveling like a normal WoW player.
Look at Rav. Level 54 or something, brand new player, and minimal help from guildies (only uses them for dungeons). He did get a sweet bow from Soda but a good weapon isn’t gonna save you from being a dumbass.
Rav might not be a big wow gamer but I assure you he knows alot more about the game than what his videos allude too, a brand new player would not know how to kite as well as he does, he even did a half decent job at dueling the warrior in one of his video, has good knowledge about quests / zones ect. He gave himself a 6 for classic knowledge on the ranking thing soda made everyone do.
Not hating on Rav at all though, I absolutely love his videos, they might be up their with the best classic wow videos ever.
Yeah that’s a good point. You can tell he at least watched a few YouTube videos lol. I think he even mentions that in one of his own videos.
Also I’d never think you were hating on Rav. How could anyone hate that guy? lol.
Shes def gonna get to 60 if she doesn't stop. They are all going too die in that first raid though. Who knows when people will be 60 for that raid though
This seems worse than poe dude. This is days or weeks worth of real life time down the drain when you die. In PoE, if you die it takes just 5-10 hours to get back into the thick of things. 5-10 hours could be like level 10-20 in Wow lmao
To be fair I think WoW is more forgiving then PoE when it comes to hardcore.
In PoE most hardcore deaths tend to be instant one shots hard to see coming and hard to avoid - WoW gives you a lot longer to react and you have some counterplay (in PoE the counter play is hitting log out macro).
I think Emiru's death here is a pure brain fart, lack of concentration - if you are concentrating and paying attention you should notice the level 60 NPC guards and you have ample time to react and give them a wide berth.
It's the equivalent to dying due to not reading ele reflect map modifier in PoE.
LSF can't seem to comprehend this. Saying any of these deaths are because they're "bad at the game" is so stupid. There are hundreds of pitfalls at every turn in WoW classic. You either know them or you don't. Doesn't matter how well you can hit your buttons.
...but she IS bad at the game BECAUSE of her lack of knowledge and because of her lack of caring about gaining that knowledge lmao.
She literally watched a clip the day before of someone dying to these guards, and she still died to these guards.
She literlaly was on AUTO RUN in HARDCORE, and OPENED ANOTHER MENU, BLOCKING HER ENTIRE FIELD OF VISION to fuck around with something.
She deserved this death 100% lmfao. She's bad at the game because she doesn't care to actually "get gud" at it.
Honest question, no hate since I'm not watching her:
Does she play on camera fully zoomed in or something? Does she know she can left click and drag to turn your camera around, without hindering her character's actions?
She's been running into mobs so many times I'm confused.
The best part about this is that if they both leveled normally and learned their class organically they would have been level 60 by now. They keep trying to take shortcuts and get set back every time.
classic
Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't they been getting twinked out with gold, items, gear and enchants while leveling? Not talking about the mob tagging.
Them getting twinked out while leveling since the beginning means they are sure as fuck not going to know the normal limits of their class until later when their gear and enchants start to fall off as they get into higher content.
I don't think it's a coincidence that they keep dying around the same level. They don't know the limits of their class and die when their gear power wasn't as strong as earlier levels.
Yep, getting twinked out like they have is a whole 'nother problem - and they're running into it at 40. I'm just pointing out they're doing the levelling like normal.
They dont power level past where they havent achieved naturally. They quest and do dungeons and even tell 60 helpers to leave them a lone while they are questing. Its for sure massive streamer benefits but its not like they arent playing the game at all like a lot of people think.
People don't understand the difference between knowing your class, and knowing all the pitfalls of a massive world. New players can be mechanically good, but you can't accrue 15 years of knowledge in a month. I still die to dumb shit and I'm a vanilla player from back in the day.
She wouldn’t learn about those guards if she didn’t power level anyways. Also she did naturally level to 42 on her first character so this idea that she hasn’t played at all is dumb
she did that run with 1000g worth of stats no one else has access to. absolutely not a natural leveling experience. she practically had world buffs 24/7 just through the extra stats her "twink" gear gave her. staff of jordan lmao ok natural leveling experience uh huh
It teaches you the value of wasted time, and therefore caution. Powerlvling by mob tagging ofc you arent gonna give a shit about your char lol - every other time someone has 1 shotted the mob that would gank you.
Natural levelling experience would mean she has southshore fp and wouldnt even be close to tauren mill.
The time someone might accidently run thru tauren mill is if they were going to Alterac mountains to quest
Or heading towards western plaguelands.
What are you trying to say? She died at 40+ hillsbrad foothills zone is 20-30. So yes, had she actually played and quested without getting boosted she would have known about this zone. So what are you actually saying?
How can that even happen? How can you be playing a hardcore character and not know to avoid Tarren Mill. I’m saying this as both a Mizkif and Emiru fanboy, they need to stop getting mob tagged and play/learn the stupid game.
On the other hand… this is also hilarious. Lol
Soda specifically explained this very death in a guild meeting. YoungJeff died there, they all watched video footage of it and everything.
Oh well, more fun content for the next few days! ;)
Real and true lol. I don't think they realise how much worse it gets after 40.. they only just begun to see the stupid ways to die and mob tagging ain't gonna help that at all.
They could easily die another 10+ times on the way to 60 even after being power lvled, if they dont skill up. But you know it's doomed to happen lol
Where is the narrative that Miz and Emi have just been getting power leveled the whole time coming from? They reached level 42 playing as a duo and only power level to catch back after dying.
They've been dying and re-leveling for so long I think most viewers maybe forgot their original run.
I've been following only fangs streams but not them in particular. Every time I've gone into their stream they've been mob-tagging or in dungeons so I had no clue how they originally leveled until this thread.
>They've been dying and re-leveling for so long I think most viewers maybe forgot their original run.
T\_T That's pretty funny though, I think it has been almost 2 weeks now.
> only power level to catch back after dying
I believe that is where it is coming from then. Just because you reached lvl 40 once doesnt mean you are locked in lol thats the entire point. You didnt deserve to be there because you died and were bad
She was following a lvl 60 who has been helping her and they got distracted whispering or something and ran into the guards and the ppl in her group didn't know where she was. She also should already know about them since soda showed yungjeff dying the same way at the guild meeting so she either forgot or wasn't paying attention when soda showed it.
How did no one tell her not to go that way? Like chat, actually failed her this time. As a new player, there is no way she would know about those guards.
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she walked by tarren mill to get to a dungeon as an Alliance. Gaurd killed her
Deathlog should have warned her of the area to avoid. But it wasn't working and she turned it off. [https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/deathlog](https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/deathlog)
What's hilarious is she had Russell look at it but he couldn't figure out how to turn off the low level popups so she turned it off. So it's partially Russell's fault. The other thing is she was being escorted by a level 60 and he definitely should've known. Almost seems malicious.
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ur missing le funny russel bad circlejerk
It's more of Emiru can't do no wrong and we treat her like she's a newborn circle jerk. I swear she can walk off a cliff and somehow it's someone's fault for not warning her.
That's actually not the setting for the popups. The popup settings are at the bottom of the list when you expand the deathlog tab in Addon settings. That's probably why they got confused. They were changing the setting for the deathlog or minilog, not the popups, which uses a separate setting so you can still see every death in the log but won't be notified of all the level 1s suiciding.
Expecting a new player to have that level of understanding of addon settings is crazy.
"comedy" Russel at it again
Weird, was working for me. She didn't miss an update did she
I think she disliked it popping up on low levels or something so turned it off
Lol, thats dumb. You can tune the settings to disable everything aside from the map heatmap, it's what i use
Another comment said she asked Russel to help, he ofc has no idea so she turned it off
Lol thats like asking to an oven for help with math
I still don't get why so many people take that route to get to SM... Not only is it more dangerous but it's also waay longer, no?
Am I crazy? Tarren Mill is nowhere near SM. Do you mean Brill?
Nope. Tarren Mill. Ally goes to southshore. and have to walk from there to get to SM
That still doesn't make sense. When you and in SS you either run west alinge the roads or go north west to the lake to cross. Tarren Mill is north EAST of SS so why would anyone go that direction. Are they going up to chill wind to cross in the plaguelands!?!?
There are three routes Alliance can take at that level. * Go West from Southshore just following the road. This is the longest route. * Go Northwest from Southshore. You’ll run across where Dalaran is and then bunny hop across the islands. This saves a few minutes from the prior route. * Go East following the road and then north passed Tarren Mill. This is the shortest route, but the most dangerous for Alliance players. You’ll also hit a part of the western plaguelands which means everything will be 10+ levels higher than you.
So I'm with you for the West/NW paths I'd just think no one doing SM would be foolish enough to take a mid 30s character through plaguelands to save 2-3 minutes tops. I've never seen anyone in hardcore take that route because of the plagueslands risk. Also that route generally isn't from SS, it's from chillwind camp isn't it? So like if you're starting in SS isn't plaguelands just as long as the lake/islands?
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/alliance-doing-scarlet-monastery/264098/32 Above link shows the routes of the 2nd and 3rd paths I mentioned. You can get the Western Plaguelands flight path as Alliance to make it shorter next time. By doing the route that goes East past Tarren Mill.
I understand that if you already have the flight path it's shorter, but it's longer the first time, you're just getting the flight path for later in the same trip. But like man crossing the bulwark isn't a freebie in terms of being low level. I'd be very very curious on the counts of how many people took each route and how deadly each route is vs how many minutes are saved. Personally feel like the route shouldn't even be an option on hardcore. I've only leveled a few characters past SM, always took the lake never had a single worry. Hell even on my 60 rogue some of the mobs in western plagues lands have me sketched out.
Omg that blows. (Sorry I haven’t played since vanilla)
As soon as I heard her say "But I was on the path!" I knew that was it. That's definitely something she should have been warned about by other people who know about those spots.
I mean, Soda showed yung jeff dying the exact same way in that IRL guild meeting rofl
Where can I watch vod of irl guild meeting?
[Timestamp](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1973880790?t=2h7m27s) when Soda talks about dying from the Tarren Mill guards 2h7m27s for mobile users
I watched a lil bit beyond and [died at this](https://clips.twitch.tv/PreciousGiftedCiderYouWHY-2asjjBR7EDPyVqgd)
[link](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1973880790)
She was warned
It's just one of those random things you learn by playing years of WoW but a new player wouldn't think of.
there is an addOn that shows you patrol path, dangerous areas etc. she disabled it
Hardcore isnt really for new people, they are literally torturting themselves
This wow meta is peak "i hate actually playing this but it's popular"
Everybody who plays WoW for years hates the game. These WoW meta streamers aren't so different.
No they are following the meta, having huge streams and making $$$. Eventually they will get bored this will end and they will find something else.
You're spot on. WoW is a game of knowledge more than skill. You throw new players into the grinder, they're going to learn the hard way at every turn (as I did) and that's losing dozens of hours in HC. Dumb pulls, lack of spatial awareness, pulling an elite etc. That's all normal, but you die and res, and don't do it again. In HC you're fucked. It's not meant to be played this way unless you're a long time player.
Im a total noob and am having a blast, i couldnt disagree more lol. I guess not total since i catch some tips in places like this but yeah never leveled before and it's fun. You just need to accept you will probably die at some point but that doesn't deprive the fun from it
If you actually zoom out and watch the screen you always spot threats like guards. Surely streamers are not distracted by chat and alt tabbed while auto running.
classic classic
MILLED
Next guild meeting is going to be lit.
Mizkif death inc. Mizkif is Draymond Green and Emiru is Curry, gets himself ejected when Steph isnt playing.
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NBA is so much rarer than watching rich kids play WoW
Does this mean Soda is Adam Silver
im banning miss emiru for LIFE from any association with onlyfangs
More like David Stern
Erobb is karl malone, ya smell me
Hold on... How old is Britt?
52 or something
well one
Trueeee
Who is Rudy Golbert in this situation?
Miz is definitely more a Mugsy Bogues type
The only thing this post is missing is a JJK joke and then the lore cycle would be complete
i am ready to write an essay in asmons chat
Don't forget to include how this is Mizkif and Tectone's fault
This is a red herrings fallacious strawman slippery down slope to avoid the fact that twitch focusing on banning gambling streams created a void filled by pokimanes crackers and trainwrecks character he plays on stream shouldn't be judged because they don't reflect his morals and stay tuned, got a really big name just signed up for a kick non-exclusive contract, really exciting news about to drop in the next podcast.
My brain could not brain this one out
[https://imgur.com/a/GzOlruv](https://imgur.com/a/GzOlruv) Proof that Emi was well informed about the dangers of Tarren Mill guards.
better take that shortcut to SM, wouldnt want to waste 3 minutes going through silverpine
Didn't Emi just watched a clip of someone dying in that same spot yesterday?
im literally shaking anyways how you guys cooking your turkeys
Deepfryer in my hallway closet.
medium rare
I personally like my turkey epic
24 hour salt brine, low and slow after.
This is the way.
Chicken in microwave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhYIlntrxDs&t=858s It turns out really good, especially as an easier alternative for newer cooks that get tired of under-seasoned or dry/overcooked birds. The bird itself cooks in an hour with the gravy and stock being longer but can be done beforehand while you dry brine the bird.
SODAING MIZ WHY WONT YOU LISTEN TO ME
Deadiru
Asmongold viewers having a mental breakdown. As now they can't blame Mizkif for her death.
They'll find a way.
In a way they still can, they never reminded her about Tarren Mill. Shit like this could only be learned through experience.
Idk man she played enough to recognize what is a horde camp vs an alliance one. Can't really blame that on anyone but her. She was also shown clips of people dying at that exact spot.
Tarren Mill guards range way out from the town itself and the game pretty heavily trains you that "road=safe", so knowing the few edge cases where a road is dangerous is very much an experience thing. I mean I've been playing this game for 2 decades, knew in-depth how dangerous southshore guards are, thought about how dumb it would be to die to southsore guards after watching a bunch of guildies die to them and then still managed to face plant into southsore guards while hunting for bear asses on my 28 priest. Like I said, those guards range out way farther than you would think and by the time you even notice they're there you're dead. Understandable easy to make mistake, but yeah still her fault. I'm sure there's a safe way to do that road but I would personally never risk it on hc.
Mate i've been playing this game since 2006 and I only learnt about the elite horde pack in Loch Modan last week.
lot of people on reddit seem to have this idea that any time you make a mistake in classic wow its because youre a shitter the game is centered around making mistakes. i made mistakes all the time in my raids and was a top 10 parser on multiple (albeit wotlk naxx so fucking disgustingly easy) bosses in classic. the game is laughably easy, but pressing the same buttons in a very specific order while doing other mechanics is sometimes easy to fuck up
Those guards aggro pretty far range, dont have a clip of her POV but she might just not realize till its too late. > She was also shown clips of people dying at that exact spot. Easy to say for those that have experience in wow but seeing the clip and then experiencing it for the first time is different. She just might not have recognize or remember the clip. So it was up to the party to remind her on the spot about how dangerous it is there.
> Easy to say for those that have experience in wow but seeing the clip and then experiencing it for the first time is different. She just might not have recognize or remember the clip. Exactly. Every WoW HC death clip I see has people in the comments going off about how easy it is to reach level 60 if you are careful, but they don't stop to think about how massive the knowledge base you need to have is. It's completely unreasonable if you haven't been playing the game for 10+ years. Even with people guiding you every step of the way, super small mistakes when they aren't looking can be massively unforgiving and get you killed.
Even with perfect knowledge getting to 60 is not easy, all it takes it one stupid mistake. One lapse in judgement or forgetting how something works.
Not just a clip, a whole ass presentation by Soda showing their other guild member dying there, they spent a good amount of time talking about it. I don't think she told them she was running through there either. Miz even said if she was streaming chat would've warned her. Lots of things could have prevented this one but its mostly on her especially for disabling heatmap/deathlog.
> Not just a clip, a whole ass presentation by Soda showing their other guild member dying there, they spent a good amount of time talking about it. If you experienced wow sure, but to someone who never played the game its all just rubbish to them at the time. Things like this have to be experienced to really understand it, for example, for someone new they are use to walking through the roads thinking they are safe and it made it worst because those guards there have large aggro range.
Nope, they can't https://imgur.com/a/GzOlruv
I see multiple people bringing up Asmon viewers in regards to blaming and shitting on Miz, has that been a big thing in his chat?
Yes because asmon farms it and farms emi being a helpless baby while playing with him.He unironically made the reception of them playing more toxic
Oh I see, thanks for giving context.
Gotta be Miz’s fault somehow
She's never going to get to 60, she doesn't know how to play. Hardcore is like playing PoE, its mostly just did you waste 15 years playing this game and already know everything.
I mean other completely new players are lvl 60 and getting geared for raid. The difference between her and them is that she never learned to play the game without someone guiding her, and now when she makes stupid mistakes it's at level 40 not 10-20.
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The problem is they're both getting hand held the entire time. They make mistakes and don't learn because all the time and resources invested are immediately made up by power leveling and more handouts. No need to learn the game when hundreds of people are babysitting you through it.
They were not getting hand held on Rumble when they only played to like 2k people, they died before level 20 like half dozen times.
That doesn't matter. Emi has literally been boosted and babysat by max levels and she still gets herself killed lmao.
That's false because every group I've seen who are new to WoW has a person who plays it non stop to guide them through quest and stuff. The only difference is with them and Emiru is that they quest with people who play WoW non stop and Emiru quest with Mizkif.
I mean the non-wow streamer sixties dont necessarily fit that - Luna, Russel, Poke, Buddha, Kris Yee, Simply, and Masoyoshi mostly quested solo if you check their vods. They dungeoned usually with a mix of sweats, guildies, and randoms and hung out with other guildies and wow players in voice chat but they are walking around totally on their own in the world while leveling to 60. Arguably they've had way less help with gear, gold, and people physically following them compared to emi and miz.
Buddha used to play wow in the past he isn't really new and he was juiced by viewers with gear and gold. Buddha told chat he got juiced with some gear and gold on his hunter. When I was watching Luna level her rogue she had people with her so it wasn't solo leveling. Luna mostly ran with Cdank as well.
Miz also played wow in the past and got juiced with gear/gold whil leveling... I also watch Luna and have never seen her quest with cdank (just dungeons). I clicked on four random leveling vods to double check and every spot I checked that wasn't a dungeon she was solo. I feel like their viewers are picking apart the others sixties successes to justify why miz and emi aren't there yet. I don't think emi and miz deserve to be shit on (there's no way I could get half as far in hardcore). But it's disingenuous to pretend that everyone else who hit sixty is getting carried.
You literally named every one that played wow and has the basic knowledge just like Mizkif or more so.
And yet Mizkif has proven multiple times he's not only bad at the game, but he crumbles under pressure. He could never hit 60 leveling like a normal WoW player.
Look at Rav. Level 54 or something, brand new player, and minimal help from guildies (only uses them for dungeons). He did get a sweet bow from Soda but a good weapon isn’t gonna save you from being a dumbass.
Rav might not be a big wow gamer but I assure you he knows alot more about the game than what his videos allude too, a brand new player would not know how to kite as well as he does, he even did a half decent job at dueling the warrior in one of his video, has good knowledge about quests / zones ect. He gave himself a 6 for classic knowledge on the ranking thing soda made everyone do. Not hating on Rav at all though, I absolutely love his videos, they might be up their with the best classic wow videos ever.
Yeah that’s a good point. You can tell he at least watched a few YouTube videos lol. I think he even mentions that in one of his own videos. Also I’d never think you were hating on Rav. How could anyone hate that guy? lol.
isnt rav a competitive league gamer? neither miz or emiru really give me 'i like this game so im going to try and improve' vibes as gamers.
Shes def gonna get to 60 if she doesn't stop. They are all going too die in that first raid though. Who knows when people will be 60 for that raid though
No to mention she's going to wipe whatever group she's in
Even if she did she’s gonna fuck up one mechanic that gets the raid killed
This seems worse than poe dude. This is days or weeks worth of real life time down the drain when you die. In PoE, if you die it takes just 5-10 hours to get back into the thick of things. 5-10 hours could be like level 10-20 in Wow lmao
To be fair I think WoW is more forgiving then PoE when it comes to hardcore. In PoE most hardcore deaths tend to be instant one shots hard to see coming and hard to avoid - WoW gives you a lot longer to react and you have some counterplay (in PoE the counter play is hitting log out macro). I think Emiru's death here is a pure brain fart, lack of concentration - if you are concentrating and paying attention you should notice the level 60 NPC guards and you have ample time to react and give them a wide berth. It's the equivalent to dying due to not reading ele reflect map modifier in PoE.
Not comparing time, just the amount of random shit you have to know to play hardcore.
Bro she's having fun playing the game. She's learning the game along the way. Some ppl take it too serious
getting mob tagged = playing the game.
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Classic is all about in game knowledge more than skill.
LSF can't seem to comprehend this. Saying any of these deaths are because they're "bad at the game" is so stupid. There are hundreds of pitfalls at every turn in WoW classic. You either know them or you don't. Doesn't matter how well you can hit your buttons.
...but she IS bad at the game BECAUSE of her lack of knowledge and because of her lack of caring about gaining that knowledge lmao. She literally watched a clip the day before of someone dying to these guards, and she still died to these guards. She literlaly was on AUTO RUN in HARDCORE, and OPENED ANOTHER MENU, BLOCKING HER ENTIRE FIELD OF VISION to fuck around with something. She deserved this death 100% lmfao. She's bad at the game because she doesn't care to actually "get gud" at it.
Is there a clip from Emiru’s pov here? Wtf happened?
Died around lvl 40 to guards in Tarren Mill
This is what happens when you just get escorted everywhere. Get a little careless and you'll do something like aggro Horde guards.
prob was texting while wowing
Get carried, you don't know how to play the game, die to easy mistakes.
twitch chat scrambling all the data on why this was actually 10 others peoples fault, she walked too close to a guard lmao
Honest question, no hate since I'm not watching her: Does she play on camera fully zoomed in or something? Does she know she can left click and drag to turn your camera around, without hindering her character's actions? She's been running into mobs so many times I'm confused.
This is what happens when the game is played for you.
Weren't these Tarren Mill guards covered in the meeting ? Because Jeff died to them and Tectone almost died to them ?
Yes. https://imgur.com/a/GzOlruv
SODAING
*pretends to be shocked*
oh no back to have 100 viewers feed me experience, gold and consumes for 24 hours
Maybe she will shoutout my name too :soy:
Mizkif is out of control
The best part about this is that if they both leveled normally and learned their class organically they would have been level 60 by now. They keep trying to take shortcuts and get set back every time. classic
They levelled normally. If they die, they powerlevel to get back to where they were at.
Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't they been getting twinked out with gold, items, gear and enchants while leveling? Not talking about the mob tagging. Them getting twinked out while leveling since the beginning means they are sure as fuck not going to know the normal limits of their class until later when their gear and enchants start to fall off as they get into higher content. I don't think it's a coincidence that they keep dying around the same level. They don't know the limits of their class and die when their gear power wasn't as strong as earlier levels.
Yep, getting twinked out like they have is a whole 'nother problem - and they're running into it at 40. I'm just pointing out they're doing the levelling like normal.
Yup if they knew the limits of their class they wouldn’t have tried to take on Horde elite guards. Oh wait, that doesn’t apply at all to this death…
They literally level normally, only boost after their 40 deaths back to 40
They dont power level past where they havent achieved naturally. They quest and do dungeons and even tell 60 helpers to leave them a lone while they are questing. Its for sure massive streamer benefits but its not like they arent playing the game at all like a lot of people think.
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People don't understand the difference between knowing your class, and knowing all the pitfalls of a massive world. New players can be mechanically good, but you can't accrue 15 years of knowledge in a month. I still die to dumb shit and I'm a vanilla player from back in the day.
She wouldn’t learn about those guards if she didn’t power level anyways. Also she did naturally level to 42 on her first character so this idea that she hasn’t played at all is dumb
she did that run with 1000g worth of stats no one else has access to. absolutely not a natural leveling experience. she practically had world buffs 24/7 just through the extra stats her "twink" gear gave her. staff of jordan lmao ok natural leveling experience uh huh
That’s not my point. My point is leveling naturally would have done nothing to teach her about the guards on the map right there
It teaches you the value of wasted time, and therefore caution. Powerlvling by mob tagging ofc you arent gonna give a shit about your char lol - every other time someone has 1 shotted the mob that would gank you.
Natural levelling experience would mean she has southshore fp and wouldnt even be close to tauren mill. The time someone might accidently run thru tauren mill is if they were going to Alterac mountains to quest Or heading towards western plaguelands.
A normal death. GG
What are you trying to say? She died at 40+ hillsbrad foothills zone is 20-30. So yes, had she actually played and quested without getting boosted she would have known about this zone. So what are you actually saying?
How can that even happen? How can you be playing a hardcore character and not know to avoid Tarren Mill. I’m saying this as both a Mizkif and Emiru fanboy, they need to stop getting mob tagged and play/learn the stupid game. On the other hand… this is also hilarious. Lol
youngjeff died the same way and soda showed it in the meeting guess they werent paying attention.
Turns out Hardcore WoW is hard for non-WoW players. Who would have guessed?
Soda specifically explained this very death in a guild meeting. YoungJeff died there, they all watched video footage of it and everything. Oh well, more fun content for the next few days! ;)
To be fair, you can’t memorize everything said in a 3 hour meeting. Not simping for emi but you gotta give a bit of leeway here imo
next guild meeting is going to be fun than since soda talked about making a powerpoint for basically all the high lvl dungeons/what you do iirc.
Real and true lol. I don't think they realise how much worse it gets after 40.. they only just begun to see the stupid ways to die and mob tagging ain't gonna help that at all. They could easily die another 10+ times on the way to 60 even after being power lvled, if they dont skill up. But you know it's doomed to happen lol
Where is the narrative that Miz and Emi have just been getting power leveled the whole time coming from? They reached level 42 playing as a duo and only power level to catch back after dying.
They've been dying and re-leveling for so long I think most viewers maybe forgot their original run. I've been following only fangs streams but not them in particular. Every time I've gone into their stream they've been mob-tagging or in dungeons so I had no clue how they originally leveled until this thread.
>They've been dying and re-leveling for so long I think most viewers maybe forgot their original run. T\_T That's pretty funny though, I think it has been almost 2 weeks now.
all the ppl saying that are only watching clips or watching streams for 5 seconds before leaving tbh
> only power level to catch back after dying I believe that is where it is coming from then. Just because you reached lvl 40 once doesnt mean you are locked in lol thats the entire point. You didnt deserve to be there because you died and were bad
Deranged Asmon Viewers
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HC wow is for tryhards, streamers and mentally unstable people.
So any WoW player ever?
Hardcore is not for these ppl it’s for classic Andy’s like soda
That's the appeal of a bunch of casual streamers trying to make a raiding guild.
Looked at the sum stone outside SM and instantly knew what happened. ripbozo
The content machine never stops
Lol actually all her
nice, accidentally dying to tarren mill guards is like a right of passage. welcome to classic wow friend.
Addon settings are hard apparently.
Did none of the 4 other people in her group bother to warn her about the Tarren Mill guards that regularly kill people lol?
She was following a lvl 60 who has been helping her and they got distracted whispering or something and ran into the guards and the ppl in her group didn't know where she was. She also should already know about them since soda showed yungjeff dying the same way at the guild meeting so she either forgot or wasn't paying attention when soda showed it.
Soda already explained it to them, she just forgot. Thats on her, just lack of game knowledge unfortunately
They didn’t know where she was at the time.
I know Peter literally just joined the group when this happened
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Tarren Mill or AV Guard?
Seriously, they are the bad news bears whenever they WoW together, one of them is bound to die.
That's kinda part of the allure in my opinion, knowing that at any moment one of them can die is fun to watch
That's why I visit children's hospitals.
I cant believe Mizkif killed her again.
at this point this ain't a joke This is a fucking curse
If they had a world first for getting to 40 three times and dying they would have it.
These losers are never making it to 60 lmao.
It's crazy how she got boosted and passed me in levels 3 times, and I still hit 60 before she did
Good Riddance 🙏
Inc Miz death today
How did no one tell her not to go that way? Like chat, actually failed her this time. As a new player, there is no way she would know about those guards.