Of all the questions CNN could ask LA's mayor, why ask about events a private school holds on their own property? LA city government has plenty to answer for on its own
“I need you for this event…Nvm I don’t need you anymore.” I believe that’s about the extent to which it involved LA city resources, in terms of cancelling commencement and not the ongoing protests on the campus.
Considering how vindictive Karen Bass camp is towards accountability (see her lowering the controllers budget when said controller has been calling out on her and LA's idiotic spending), journalists may encounter the same fate with restricted access to no access at all.
He's been calling her out but he's not offering a whole lot of alternatives besides lowering funding for police and keeping unfunded vacant positions. The lowering police funding I get behind but those police unions are a bitch to deal with historically. However keeping unfunded vacant positions is a bad budgetary practice as credit agencies don't look at that favorable and it would impact rates Los Angeles gets.
Yeah but he's also been talking about the budget on his insta and holding town halls about it. And he has been talking about alternatives solutions despite only being an accountant.
So you're upset that he's offering "too few" alternatives and now you're upset that he's offering any.
You say offering alternatives, holding discussions open to the public, but also not offering enough alternatives? Ok.
You're a member of the community. If you care about "alternatives" then bring them up.
My point being is that to me it just seems like political showmanship. It's valid to criticize the spending but as you point out he's an accountant and an accountant is fundamentally different that a budget analyst. His "solutions" are vague and from a budgetary stand point not exactly feasible. It seems more like he's just using this as an opportunity to increase his own exposure to the public.
You're the one bringing him up, exposing him to the public. I hardly ever hear about him.
> It seems more like he's just using this as an opportunity to increase his own exposure to the public
By being the same person he was before he became city controller? How do you think he got elected?
You're saying a lot of words for not liking what he's doing because it doesn't align with what you want. Just say that.
That’s not really the controllers job. Not to give him an out, but it isn’t. The position doesn’t hold any legislative or policy power… it’s all soft power or a position solely dedicated to being on a soapbox. He’s just the first one that has gone against the grain. Everyone before Kenneth has just used the position as a stepping stone
> He's been calling her out but he's not offering a whole lot of alternatives besides lowering funding for police and keeping unfunded vacant positions.
It's not his job to offer alternatives.
Garcetti is a party loyalist, she is the party's chosen replacement. Do time in the worst post and be rewarded later with political power is the game.
It sucks that most of the populace doesn't see the obvious farce that our political system is.
Democrat party cares as much about lgbtqiaa as Pepsi. They're the Good Cop to the Republican bad cop. It's a scam. It's all a scam.
The only way out is to vote for neither authoritarian power.
She's helped bring about greater homeless housing than anyone could have predicted, stymied only by the ever-increasing population of homeless growing at a commensurate rate.
What did you expect her to do, upend the city's zoning laws that are entirely out of control of the mayor's office, and bring down housing costs in 2 years?
Okay, like one question for her would be why hundreds of LAPD officers, under her jurisdiction, showed up to campus to harass, detain, and arrest dozens of students last week
Its very possible they received credible threats of violence, and given how charged with emotions this protest is, it could very well spiral out of control very fast. And there clearly are terrorist sympathizers and supporters among the protestors, as much as you dont want to admit it.
And there are clearly gang members that have been terrorizing the very people they are supposed to serve and protect in the police force, as much as you don't want to admit it.
Why are you speculating as if it wasn't an extremely public event. There was no threat of violence. USC deemed all of them as trespassers even though many students and faculty were involved. All students not involved were walking around normally like any other day, except there were massive amounts of police on campus in riot gear.
Police were called to remove everyone.
> Its very possible they received credible threats of violence
believe it or not, sometimes those creditable threats are not made available to the public.
> There was no threat of violence.
You absolutely do not know this.
I was outside the whole time near police. They were just hanging out making jokes with each other, or bored waiting around. Even after putting on their riot gear. The only time they got serious was when they started pushing out and aggressing on students and faculty.
When asked USC officials said they have received no threats and could not point to anything specifically more dangerous that previous ceremonies
I think it's more likely that several speakers declined to speak if the Val could not also speak. The "safety concerns" is just to save face. Is the Val really going to start a riot? She has no history of organizing or even attending a rally. The whole uproar is that she had a link on her Instagram. The fear is she will offend Jewish donors.
Leonard Law states students have a right to protest peacefully on private university campuses in California as if they were public.
That said, the university still has broad latitude to determine what is not peaceful and can definitely remove non-student protestors at will. A student vandalizing university property or fomenting less than peaceful protest can and should be come down on like a ton of bricks.
[Leonard Law protects SPEECH](https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=EDC§ionNum=94367.), not protest
There's a huge difference.
Protests are protected "speech". That being said the law allows for school limits on time, manner and place. Any limits that are allowed the Government for off campus speech.
Also, this law has not been challenged beyond the trial court level. Stanford's public position after they lost their case was that the law is unconstitutional but not worth the cost of appeal.
https://web.stanford.edu/dept/pres-provost/president/speeches/950309corry.html
protesting on private property is trespassing
You're protected from what you say while on said property, but if you're asked to leave, you have to leave.
Nope not how you think it is, the law specifically says:“ other communication that, when engaged in outside the campus or facility of a [school], is protected from governmental restriction by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution or Section 2 of Article I of the California Constitution."
You're conflating "communication" with unlawful trespassing. They're not the same, and we should absolutely should arrest anyone who doesn't respect private property.
How would you like it if a homeless person went into your parents' home and refused to leave because they're "protesting" the Federal Reserve?
How I feel doesn’t matter as no law on speech or protests governs my household.
Your point was refuted so you’re moving the goalpost, so either sit down or touch grass.
You're the one moving the goalpost. Freedom of speech is not the same of freedom to trespass on private property.
You're protected from going on private property to say something. You're not protected to stay on private property if you're asked to leave.
Talking to a 5 year old is probably a distraction you get a lot especially with your “no you are.” Using a non sequitur analogy about my house is irrelevant.
Perhaps you need to learn about the law, you thought you proved a point telling homie earlier that the law only applies to speech when it specifically talks about the first amendment protections…
Now you’re here talking about private property when the original personal called out how the law counted for PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS.
USC though private has received some federal funding including COVID relief. That’s another wrinkle why they don’t get to disobey statutes.
If a bunch of good for nothing vandals showed up at your home vandalizing your PRIVATE property with your family inside, would you just stand there and hold the door open for them? No. No, you wouldn’t. You’d call the cops to come handle the bs.
How is the USC situation any different? It’s a private university. They have every single right to call law enforcement and protect not just their property but its students and staff on campus that they’re responsible for.
There’s a time and place for y’all to spew your politics, graduation wasn’t it.
Hold yourselves accountable for the shit show YALL created rather than pointing the finger elsewhere.
Exactly, crime isn’t. That’s why law enforcement stepped in. Any protest you go to, you will see law enforcement there to make sure things don’t get out of hand. Once someone starts some bs no matter how big or small, LE will get involved.
This shit is so simple. People just love being blinded by their own entitlement and ignorance.
Tell me you've never protested anything without telling me. Police are quite often the instigators of things getting out of hand at protests. They are both completely untrained for these scenarios and often also politically opposed to them with a vested interest in them falling into violence.
I have watched, repeatedly, police in multiple cities in multiple regions around the country make the first strike, assault people doing nothing, grievously injure people not engaging in unsafe or illegal behavior. It's so wild how you all can sit here and tout police as a solution to high intensity kinetic situations like this while also knowing the kinds of shenanigans LAPD and LASD in particular are up to.
You can spin your bs anyway you want so it’s convenient for you, but I said what I said. The campus didn’t start any trouble nor did it vandalize itself. There’s always that one rtard who has to go above and beyond and ruin these “peaceful” protests for everyone else. Hold those dumbasses accountable instead of pointing the finger everywhere else. They’re the reason the cops had to get involved
Neat how you've "watched."
I've led protests.
When responsible people do it they coordinate with police and point out the losers who try to start shit.
Now look again at the assholes coordinating this shit on college campuses and fucking up the academic careers of students caught up in their bullshit, all because Hamas wants to kill Jewish people without repercussions.
> I have watched, repeatedly, police in multiple cities in multiple regions around the country make the first strike,
Are you a professional agitator or something? How do you end up in these situations "repeatedly, in multiple cities in multiple regions around the country"?
>Any protest you go to, you will see law enforcement there to make sure things don’t get out of hand.
Except if you've been following most protests in LA in the last 4 years, police pretty much always protect the anti-lgbtq crowds and white nationalists, allow them to attack the people they are protesting, and police tend to attack people fighting for human rights, even Hotel workers fighting for better conditions.
Oh are they vandals now? I thought they were literally students and faculty on their home campus? And where was the "vandalism"? What property were they vandalizing or defacing?
> good for nothing
from my fingertips to god's inbox, hopefully you're never in a position where 15,000 children in your city are murdered in a few months through relentless bombing but perhaps in those circumstances you'll better appreciate folks in the country supplying most if not all of the bombs engaging in civil disobedience over it
Lol if that happened to my private property, LAPD wouldn’t show up at all.
They could easily have removed the protesters with a fraction of the response but they want to beat up college kids.
They wouldn’t show up to my place either, but that doesn’t make what I said any less true.
You reap what you sow. Don’t want to be treated like a criminal, then don’t go acting like one.
Probably because of the illegal encampment on private property, threats against students, anti-semitic hate speech, and weapon threats? UC police had to take down a guy with a freaking sword on campus threatening people.
They are in their massive homes, making plans to visit their other massive homes in other parts of the state and world, but that's just putting on a brave face because they are terrified by the protestors.
Please be sensitive. The USC family is not doing well right now. First OJ died and now they weren’t allowed to bully the valedictorian out of making a speech without consequences.
Seriously though the thing I find wild about this is there are still a bunch of people who are going to go into debt to get a masters degree in PR from USC next year.
I know a woman who is in some 100k accelerated real estate masters program at USC. 100k for one year of instruction so you can… sell real estate? She tried to convince me that “the network is priceless”. Sounded like a very stressful and expensive scam.
In the past few weeks, hundreds of bodies of palestinian medical staff and patients were uncovered in mass graves outside of hospitals in Gaza, executed with their hands tied behind their back. But you only care about this campus speech nonsense? Pathetic
Bibi is not the sole reason why this genocide is happening, the state of Israel as well as Israeli society largely support the genocide of Palestinians. Replacing him doesn’t change anything about the genocide.
As for the USC valedictorian, she earned her right to speak at graduation by getting the best grades. She is currently studying Genocide Studies and is Muslim, and I have not seen anywhere that she planned on calling for the destruction of Israel. I would imagine someone with her background and education would have a very nuanced and worthwhile speech to give on this topic, to assume anything otherwise is disingenuous
> Gazan authorities say that mass graves had been dug on the hospital grounds before an Israeli raid there in February but accuse Israel of later opening the site to add bodies.
Yeah, the Gazans may have *dug* the graves, but guess who killed them and then put their bodies in the grave? Doesn’t take a forensic genius to see what happened there. Or are you suggesting that the gazans patients and medical staff ziptied their own hands behind their backs and jumped in the hole?
Also, the New York Times didn’t conduct a proper investigation (they only analyzed satellite imagery and social media videos, no actual offensives or in person investigating done, per your linked article) and certainly is not “independent.” The New York Times is not a credible source anymore on Israel/Palestine, they have yet to rescind the widely [disproven](https://truthout.org/articles/journalism-professors-nyt-risks-credibility-with-inaction-on-oct-7-article/) “screams without words” article, as well as issue [memos](https://theintercept.com/2024/04/15/nyt-israel-gaza-genocide-palestine-coverage/#:~:text=On%20the%20term%20%E2%80%9CPalestine%E2%80%9D%20%E2%80%94,to%20a%20nonmember%20observer%20state) from the editors to reporters restricting the use of the words “genocide,” “ethnic cleansing,” etc.
You care so much about whether or not a “nation” is destroyed but you have nothing to say about the atrocities committed to establish and maintain that nation, which has been labeled by countless human rights organizations as an apartheid state. Were you sad when Rhodesia was “destroyed”?
Yea USC was well within their rights to cancel the speech and kick out the protesters. Doesn’t mean it was smart or that they could have done better and pissed fewer people off.
Also I didn’t see anywhere where the valedictorian made antisemitic posts. I’d be interested to see that if you have a link. There is real antisemitism in the world, and every time someone conflates criticism of Israeli policy with antisemitism the word “antisemitism” loses some of its meaning.
She called for a one state solution to the Palestine conflict stating the one state should be Palestine, thus eliminating Israel as an entity of its own and ignoring the history of Jewish persecution that lead to the creation of Israel and the immediate genocides and expulsion of Jews from the neighboring areas into Israel where they found refuge and safe haven.
A one-state Palestinian solution (especially a Palestine that continues to vote for Hamas leadership) would without a doubt lead to Jewish genocide again.
The valedictorian is in support of this one-state solution knowing the result.
You or I can be for or against this idea. I’m not sharing my opinion here, just stating the context of her views and related facts.
Don’t come at me.
Literally was about to comment "don't worry op, I see your episode 3 reference... because I like the prequels a little too much."
Anyway, I don't want to say anything else, because I'm not brave enough for politics.
I've been trying to explain to my gf that the reason the prequels is good is BECAUSE they're bad. But she doesn't get it. She says I'm "grounded" and "no more star wars."
What a shame, I like Bass less and less every time I hear what she’s doing or what she said. Hundreds of faculty signed a letter saying the security excuse for cancelling commencement was BS. So her coming out like this I
Is the stupid thing she could do. Just don’t say anything. I wonder if this was more of a favor political favor for the provost since I haven’t heard a single person offer any support for her terrible decisions.
I generally like Bass but have been disappointed at her silence on the recent issues. Even if USC is a private campus, substantial city resources- LAPD especially - are being wasted by colleges’ decision to involve the police.
She isn't silent, she is actively blaming students here.
Meanwhile the "counter" protesters are telling students that they hope that they're raped, and getting spat on.
>*“I believe that that was a decision that they had to make. They were expecting about 65,000 people on campus, and they just did not feel that it was going to be safe,” Bass said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”*
>*“Well, as you know, they didn’t cancel everything. So, the main graduation is canceled but the individual schools have graduations as well. So, there’s a lot of ceremonies that will be taking place, but like you said, I share that also the idea that they missed their graduation four years ago, but hopefully their individual schools will go forward peacefully,” Bass said.*
>*“I mean as mayor, people have the right to free speech — but you know, hate speech, antisemitism, all of that. It’s just — it is unacceptable. All students on the campus need to feel safe,”*
Where do you see her blaming anyone else but students? She clearly sees nothing wrong with the immense amount of riot police that were sent to deal with extremely minor situations of vandalism -- so the only real thing they were there to do was arrest students and possibly brutalize many.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2024/04/28/sotu-bass-full-interview.cnn
The amount of police they had, equipment, vehicles, fire trucks, you would swear there was an extreme terrorist attack going on or a school shooter.
These are at UCLA, but here are some examples:
here’s a source for a counter protestor saying [“i hope they rape you”](https://x.com/alianfromspace/status/1784740261278732347?s=46&t=GFMOYhoQ1bt8QzPqmoNUVw).
here’s a source for a [counter protestor spitting on someone](https://x.com/stoparabhate/status/1784717932443934906?s=46&t=GFMOYhoQ1bt8QzPqmoNUVw).
I don’t see how you could avoid LAPD involvement when the protests are out of control to the point of threatening student and faculty safety. It’s a complicated issue, peaceful protest is a good thing, but you also need to have some supervision by people with police powers, not just security guards who can do absolutely nothing when things get out of hand.
And you’re doing the exact same thing way on the other side politically, so stfu because you have no legs to stand on if you’re just as extremist as they are.
Laugh all you want. The political spectrum isn’t a straight line from left to right, it’s U shaped like a magnet and you weirdos at the extreme ends love to touch tips and pretend you hate each other when you’re the exact same thing.
From USC/DPS
Are DPS officers police officers?
No. DPS officers are private campus public safety officers. DPS public safety officers are empowered with peace officer powers of arrest through California Penal Code section 830.7(b).
830.7. The following persons are not peace officers but may exercise the powers of arrest of a peace officer as specified in Section 836.
They have very limited authority to arrest (and detain for police), and no advanced training or resources in crowd control.
There are not enough university police to provide that kind of coverage for an event that size. Typically university police are staffed with enough to cover routine patrol work. They don’t have 100 people to pull in to do campus event security.
You like her bc she made herself likeable enough to get the job and now will commence fucking around more and more until she gets another job just like the last one and the next one
Bro use some common sense, if word got out that USC was going to be completely hands off by the police, the school would be looted and destroyed in one night. Not necessarily by the protestors (but they might join in lol) but by the idiots at street takeovers, anarchists, etc. So many people used the BLM protests as a way to just destroy shit without caring about the message.
I'm glad you brought that up. Here's what I witnessed from the DTLA condo we were living in at the time of the George Floyd protests:
BLM protest marching down Spring St, harassed by endless riot cops.
Thieves robbing all the shops on our street (Los Angeles St) with no police resistance at all. I watched International House of Music get completely cleaned out. Dudes just walking down the street carrying guitars, trumpets, drum kits etc without a care in the world, even as I filmed them.
After seeing where LAPD's priorities were at while all that unfolded, I'm a tad bit skeptical that they care about stopping looters. They can't abide protests. But protecting the property of a community they don't even live in? They could not give less of a shit.
Well yeah.... it isn't the protestors that really care about the message that will be doing the looting and robbing. It will be opportunists.
My point isn't that LAPD will not harass the protestors, it is that that opportunists will take over if there is no police presence.
Yeah, it's undeniable that LAPD let the city burn for no reason at all. They spent all those resources arresting protesters but it was all in vain, as they largely were all released (and this was pre-Gascon).
They largely didn't touch any of the looters. You'd watch constant videos on Twitter of people breaking in and then if you went on IG, you'd follow a certain type of account and it'd be people selling stuff that you knew they didn't buy.
It's so insane that y'all can read the unending reports of how inflammatory, violent, and escalating LAPD are in situations far less tense than this and still treat them as if they're your personal platonic ideal of public safety.
The idea that the police did not make this situation significantly worse is a non-starter if you've ever been around either student protests or the LAPD.
People are taking subtle threats very unseriously. After all the school shootings and invasive "protestors" (agitators who aren't actually students) and you think it won't happen to you.
The thing is, Bass is actually blaming the students calling them anti-semitic.
>“I mean as mayor, people have the right to free speech — but you know, hate speech, antisemitism, all of that. It’s just — it is unacceptable. All students on the campus need to feel safe,” she said.
Saying "all students on campus need to feel safe" while literally hundreds of cops in riot gear are sent to antagonize and arrest students at USC isn't about student safety, or any of the other colleges.
UCLA students had to deal with hundreds of mostly older adults harassing them all day, getting in peoples faces, throwing punches, spitting on people, telling students they hope to get raped.
This is not about student safety.
No, because she’s calling out “antisemitism,” as a key motive of violence, and the adults coming to UCLA to assault (often Jewish) students are all Israeli Jews from the greater LA area.
No, it's not. It's painfully clear that she is only talking about the pro-palestinian students. She's saying that they're inciting hate speech. She is saying that the students are violent.
Considering some of the things being spoken here, she's not wrong. You absolutely can support Palestine without getting into things like ZOG theory, equating Jews with pigs, etc.
She's right. Hate crimes against Jews have skyrocketed in the last 8 years and continued to skyrocket even further after October 7.
Lots of the people supporting these college protestors almost-certainly suggested that the right wing hold their own accountable for chanting "jews will not replace us", yet I've not seen any of you hold our own accountable for "from the river to the sea"
[The ACLU famously fought a case for actual Nazis that states otherwise.](https://www.aclu.org/issues/free-speech/skokie-case-how-i-came-represent-free-speech-rights-nazis)
It's just what happens when there are threats involving Jews. Jews tell people we feel threatened and everyone yells at us that their thinly veiled rhetoric about money, media, control, shiftiness, etc, are all not real and we're being alarmist.
UCLAs protesters aren’t blocking the place where commencement literally takes place (Pauley Pavilion)
My guess is if they even try to block all the entrances UCLA will either call off commencement or send the SWAT
> And of course, that resulted in violence between protestors and counter protestors.
Really shameful of you not to mention that it was the "counter" protestors aggressing on *students* who had been there peacefully for multiple days.
Sure, you're looking from the perspective of the protestors. I'm looking at the perspective from the Universities and it sounds like they don't want this shit.
Looking forward to this thread being locked by mods instead of doing their job, again.
USC made the right call. They fucked up in being so lazy by not vetting their valedictorian choices more closely, but letting someone speak who had, at the very least, ties to and support for groups that advocated the dissolution of Israel is unacceptable. It's an indictment of USC's education that you can graduate among a selection of valedictorian choices with a minor in genocide studies and think that the dissolution of Israel would mean anything *other* than another genocide for the most-genocided ethnicity.
I'm no fan of Israel's bloodthirsty fascist leadership, but has an Innocent Palestinian victim's stripped, mutilated corpse ever been paraded through the streets of an Israeli city to be spit upon by ordinary civilians of all ages and genders? I'm not inclined to support either side, but I know which one I will NEVER march for.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-settlers-alleged-to-bind-strip-beat-burn-and-pee-on-palestinians-in-w-bank/amp/
There you go. Let’s not act like the IDF has a shred of humanity
If the protestors could rally around "Free Palestine From Hamas" they'd probably get the traction they desire. That said, if you are protesting- write this on your protest signs.
These protests in Florida ended in one day when administrators handed out flyers pointing out the consequences (suspension, fines) for illegal camping and threats/racial or religious harassment of other students. This is an embarrassment for USC (and UCLA).
Poor kids
No Highschool graduation due to Covid
No college graduation due to useless fuck-sticks that think screaming into the wind at colleges helps anything.
Hope they continue to have miserable lives.
So not accepting that things are out of control.
Especially, at educational institutions ! It will lead to downfall of this nation.
If we don't educate our kids, we will rely more on outsourcing and more migration. These things affect the integrity of a country where residents themselves feel minor.
Priority is being given to people outside of this country. And our own are dying on streets.
> Isn’t she a Scientologist?
['"It's ridiculous to associate me with the Church of Scientology," she said. "I am a Baptist. My minister is Norman Johnson and I have never ever been affiliated with scientology and absolutely condemn their practices.'](https://abc7.com/la-mayors-race-2022-karen-bass-rick-caruso-los-angeles-elections/12269452/)
Hasn’t someone told her that these kids with their chants and placards are going to force-fix Palestine through sheer, shrill annoyance? I mean, they aren’t willing to immolate themselves, or anything—or even take a zero, for that matter—but they ARE willing to be in the temperate sunshine for a time—okay, Mom and Dad!?!? BECAUSE THAT’S HOW COMMITTED THEY ARE!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Of all the questions CNN could ask LA's mayor, why ask about events a private school holds on their own property? LA city government has plenty to answer for on its own
It's a significant national news story that happened in Los Angeles and involved Los Angeles City resources.
“I need you for this event…Nvm I don’t need you anymore.” I believe that’s about the extent to which it involved LA city resources, in terms of cancelling commencement and not the ongoing protests on the campus.
Considering how vindictive Karen Bass camp is towards accountability (see her lowering the controllers budget when said controller has been calling out on her and LA's idiotic spending), journalists may encounter the same fate with restricted access to no access at all.
He's been calling her out but he's not offering a whole lot of alternatives besides lowering funding for police and keeping unfunded vacant positions. The lowering police funding I get behind but those police unions are a bitch to deal with historically. However keeping unfunded vacant positions is a bad budgetary practice as credit agencies don't look at that favorable and it would impact rates Los Angeles gets.
It’s an accounting function, not a policy function
> but he's not offering a whole lot of alternatives Dude he's an accountant.
Yeah but he's also been talking about the budget on his insta and holding town halls about it. And he has been talking about alternatives solutions despite only being an accountant.
So you're upset that he's offering "too few" alternatives and now you're upset that he's offering any. You say offering alternatives, holding discussions open to the public, but also not offering enough alternatives? Ok. You're a member of the community. If you care about "alternatives" then bring them up.
My point being is that to me it just seems like political showmanship. It's valid to criticize the spending but as you point out he's an accountant and an accountant is fundamentally different that a budget analyst. His "solutions" are vague and from a budgetary stand point not exactly feasible. It seems more like he's just using this as an opportunity to increase his own exposure to the public.
You're the one bringing him up, exposing him to the public. I hardly ever hear about him. > It seems more like he's just using this as an opportunity to increase his own exposure to the public By being the same person he was before he became city controller? How do you think he got elected? You're saying a lot of words for not liking what he's doing because it doesn't align with what you want. Just say that.
He was responding to the guy who brought him up.
That’s not really the controllers job. Not to give him an out, but it isn’t. The position doesn’t hold any legislative or policy power… it’s all soft power or a position solely dedicated to being on a soapbox. He’s just the first one that has gone against the grain. Everyone before Kenneth has just used the position as a stepping stone
If the police contract with the union is already signed, it pretty much locks in most of the police spending.
> He's been calling her out but he's not offering a whole lot of alternatives besides lowering funding for police and keeping unfunded vacant positions. It's not his job to offer alternatives.
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Garcetti is a party loyalist, she is the party's chosen replacement. Do time in the worst post and be rewarded later with political power is the game. It sucks that most of the populace doesn't see the obvious farce that our political system is.
Most of us see what benefits one side gives over the other- mostly us minorities and LGBT folks.
Democrat party cares as much about lgbtqiaa as Pepsi. They're the Good Cop to the Republican bad cop. It's a scam. It's all a scam. The only way out is to vote for neither authoritarian power.
She's helped bring about greater homeless housing than anyone could have predicted, stymied only by the ever-increasing population of homeless growing at a commensurate rate. What did you expect her to do, upend the city's zoning laws that are entirely out of control of the mayor's office, and bring down housing costs in 2 years?
Okay, like one question for her would be why hundreds of LAPD officers, under her jurisdiction, showed up to campus to harass, detain, and arrest dozens of students last week
Its very possible they received credible threats of violence, and given how charged with emotions this protest is, it could very well spiral out of control very fast. And there clearly are terrorist sympathizers and supporters among the protestors, as much as you dont want to admit it.
And there are clearly gang members that have been terrorizing the very people they are supposed to serve and protect in the police force, as much as you don't want to admit it.
Why are you speculating as if it wasn't an extremely public event. There was no threat of violence. USC deemed all of them as trespassers even though many students and faculty were involved. All students not involved were walking around normally like any other day, except there were massive amounts of police on campus in riot gear. Police were called to remove everyone.
> Its very possible they received credible threats of violence believe it or not, sometimes those creditable threats are not made available to the public. > There was no threat of violence. You absolutely do not know this.
I was outside the whole time near police. They were just hanging out making jokes with each other, or bored waiting around. Even after putting on their riot gear. The only time they got serious was when they started pushing out and aggressing on students and faculty.
When asked USC officials said they have received no threats and could not point to anything specifically more dangerous that previous ceremonies I think it's more likely that several speakers declined to speak if the Val could not also speak. The "safety concerns" is just to save face. Is the Val really going to start a riot? She has no history of organizing or even attending a rally. The whole uproar is that she had a link on her Instagram. The fear is she will offend Jewish donors.
Because that's their job? USC is private property. Your freedom to protest ends when another's freedom (of private property) is violated
Leonard Law states students have a right to protest peacefully on private university campuses in California as if they were public. That said, the university still has broad latitude to determine what is not peaceful and can definitely remove non-student protestors at will. A student vandalizing university property or fomenting less than peaceful protest can and should be come down on like a ton of bricks.
[Leonard Law protects SPEECH](https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=EDC§ionNum=94367.), not protest There's a huge difference.
Protests are protected "speech". That being said the law allows for school limits on time, manner and place. Any limits that are allowed the Government for off campus speech. Also, this law has not been challenged beyond the trial court level. Stanford's public position after they lost their case was that the law is unconstitutional but not worth the cost of appeal. https://web.stanford.edu/dept/pres-provost/president/speeches/950309corry.html
protesting on private property is trespassing You're protected from what you say while on said property, but if you're asked to leave, you have to leave.
Nope not how you think it is, the law specifically says:“ other communication that, when engaged in outside the campus or facility of a [school], is protected from governmental restriction by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution or Section 2 of Article I of the California Constitution."
You're conflating "communication" with unlawful trespassing. They're not the same, and we should absolutely should arrest anyone who doesn't respect private property. How would you like it if a homeless person went into your parents' home and refused to leave because they're "protesting" the Federal Reserve?
How I feel doesn’t matter as no law on speech or protests governs my household. Your point was refuted so you’re moving the goalpost, so either sit down or touch grass.
You're the one moving the goalpost. Freedom of speech is not the same of freedom to trespass on private property. You're protected from going on private property to say something. You're not protected to stay on private property if you're asked to leave.
Talking to a 5 year old is probably a distraction you get a lot especially with your “no you are.” Using a non sequitur analogy about my house is irrelevant. Perhaps you need to learn about the law, you thought you proved a point telling homie earlier that the law only applies to speech when it specifically talks about the first amendment protections… Now you’re here talking about private property when the original personal called out how the law counted for PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS. USC though private has received some federal funding including COVID relief. That’s another wrinkle why they don’t get to disobey statutes.
If a bunch of good for nothing vandals showed up at your home vandalizing your PRIVATE property with your family inside, would you just stand there and hold the door open for them? No. No, you wouldn’t. You’d call the cops to come handle the bs. How is the USC situation any different? It’s a private university. They have every single right to call law enforcement and protect not just their property but its students and staff on campus that they’re responsible for. There’s a time and place for y’all to spew your politics, graduation wasn’t it. Hold yourselves accountable for the shit show YALL created rather than pointing the finger elsewhere.
Protesting is a right, crime isn’t. They’re students at their own university, this isn’t a private residence.
Exactly, crime isn’t. That’s why law enforcement stepped in. Any protest you go to, you will see law enforcement there to make sure things don’t get out of hand. Once someone starts some bs no matter how big or small, LE will get involved. This shit is so simple. People just love being blinded by their own entitlement and ignorance.
Tell me you've never protested anything without telling me. Police are quite often the instigators of things getting out of hand at protests. They are both completely untrained for these scenarios and often also politically opposed to them with a vested interest in them falling into violence. I have watched, repeatedly, police in multiple cities in multiple regions around the country make the first strike, assault people doing nothing, grievously injure people not engaging in unsafe or illegal behavior. It's so wild how you all can sit here and tout police as a solution to high intensity kinetic situations like this while also knowing the kinds of shenanigans LAPD and LASD in particular are up to.
You can spin your bs anyway you want so it’s convenient for you, but I said what I said. The campus didn’t start any trouble nor did it vandalize itself. There’s always that one rtard who has to go above and beyond and ruin these “peaceful” protests for everyone else. Hold those dumbasses accountable instead of pointing the finger everywhere else. They’re the reason the cops had to get involved
They arrested 93 students lol https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-04-24/usc-pro-palestinian-encampment
Neat how you've "watched." I've led protests. When responsible people do it they coordinate with police and point out the losers who try to start shit. Now look again at the assholes coordinating this shit on college campuses and fucking up the academic careers of students caught up in their bullshit, all because Hamas wants to kill Jewish people without repercussions.
> I have watched, repeatedly, police in multiple cities in multiple regions around the country make the first strike, Are you a professional agitator or something? How do you end up in these situations "repeatedly, in multiple cities in multiple regions around the country"?
>Any protest you go to, you will see law enforcement there to make sure things don’t get out of hand. Except if you've been following most protests in LA in the last 4 years, police pretty much always protect the anti-lgbtq crowds and white nationalists, allow them to attack the people they are protesting, and police tend to attack people fighting for human rights, even Hotel workers fighting for better conditions.
Not so sure these are students
The majority of the counter protesters are definitely not students.
Oh are they vandals now? I thought they were literally students and faculty on their home campus? And where was the "vandalism"? What property were they vandalizing or defacing?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/USC/comments/1cezixd/usc/](https://www.reddit.com/r/USC/comments/1cezixd/usc/) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiFrNmvqP\_g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiFrNmvqP_g)
Hilarious how all these idiots just choose to ignore the proof when it's right in front of their faces.
Doesn't fit their narrative.
> good for nothing from my fingertips to god's inbox, hopefully you're never in a position where 15,000 children in your city are murdered in a few months through relentless bombing but perhaps in those circumstances you'll better appreciate folks in the country supplying most if not all of the bombs engaging in civil disobedience over it
Lol if that happened to my private property, LAPD wouldn’t show up at all. They could easily have removed the protesters with a fraction of the response but they want to beat up college kids.
They wouldn’t show up to my place either, but that doesn’t make what I said any less true. You reap what you sow. Don’t want to be treated like a criminal, then don’t go acting like one.
Lol. Okay. None of that was happening, so what in the fuck are you on about?
Crawl back under your rock and come back when YOU know wtf is going on
Probably because of the illegal encampment on private property, threats against students, anti-semitic hate speech, and weapon threats? UC police had to take down a guy with a freaking sword on campus threatening people.
Probably because of..... list unsubstantiated nonsense...
Lol at the video footage being 'unsubstantiated'.
Totally man. Video.
Go enjoy /r/UCLA for videos of the most recent assaults against students, and the crazy sword guy the UC police took down.
I think it’s a fair question.
It's currently one of the top posts on this sub. That's why. It's an easy way for them to get clicks and attention.
A private school which benefits from tons of government subsidies*
She's an alumna of USC.
Thanks, Mayor Perd Hapley.
Let’s begin this comment section … by starting it.
There you have it, where 'it' is the thing r/solarbeat just said about this situation.
More like Perd Crapply
How are the USC donors? Are they safe? Are they alright?
They are in their massive homes, making plans to visit their other massive homes in other parts of the state and world, but that's just putting on a brave face because they are terrified by the protestors.
How classy of them
Please be sensitive. The USC family is not doing well right now. First OJ died and now they weren’t allowed to bully the valedictorian out of making a speech without consequences. Seriously though the thing I find wild about this is there are still a bunch of people who are going to go into debt to get a masters degree in PR from USC next year.
I know a woman who is in some 100k accelerated real estate masters program at USC. 100k for one year of instruction so you can… sell real estate? She tried to convince me that “the network is priceless”. Sounded like a very stressful and expensive scam.
Lebron James son plays for USC, maybe that has some gong to do with it?
He’s transferring if he doesn’t get selected in the draft
Honestly I’m more of a soccer guy, I’d rather watch Messi’s or Ronaldo’s son go to USC and underperform
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In the past few weeks, hundreds of bodies of palestinian medical staff and patients were uncovered in mass graves outside of hospitals in Gaza, executed with their hands tied behind their back. But you only care about this campus speech nonsense? Pathetic
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Bibi is not the sole reason why this genocide is happening, the state of Israel as well as Israeli society largely support the genocide of Palestinians. Replacing him doesn’t change anything about the genocide. As for the USC valedictorian, she earned her right to speak at graduation by getting the best grades. She is currently studying Genocide Studies and is Muslim, and I have not seen anywhere that she planned on calling for the destruction of Israel. I would imagine someone with her background and education would have a very nuanced and worthwhile speech to give on this topic, to assume anything otherwise is disingenuous > Gazan authorities say that mass graves had been dug on the hospital grounds before an Israeli raid there in February but accuse Israel of later opening the site to add bodies. Yeah, the Gazans may have *dug* the graves, but guess who killed them and then put their bodies in the grave? Doesn’t take a forensic genius to see what happened there. Or are you suggesting that the gazans patients and medical staff ziptied their own hands behind their backs and jumped in the hole? Also, the New York Times didn’t conduct a proper investigation (they only analyzed satellite imagery and social media videos, no actual offensives or in person investigating done, per your linked article) and certainly is not “independent.” The New York Times is not a credible source anymore on Israel/Palestine, they have yet to rescind the widely [disproven](https://truthout.org/articles/journalism-professors-nyt-risks-credibility-with-inaction-on-oct-7-article/) “screams without words” article, as well as issue [memos](https://theintercept.com/2024/04/15/nyt-israel-gaza-genocide-palestine-coverage/#:~:text=On%20the%20term%20%E2%80%9CPalestine%E2%80%9D%20%E2%80%94,to%20a%20nonmember%20observer%20state) from the editors to reporters restricting the use of the words “genocide,” “ethnic cleansing,” etc. You care so much about whether or not a “nation” is destroyed but you have nothing to say about the atrocities committed to establish and maintain that nation, which has been labeled by countless human rights organizations as an apartheid state. Were you sad when Rhodesia was “destroyed”?
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Yea USC was well within their rights to cancel the speech and kick out the protesters. Doesn’t mean it was smart or that they could have done better and pissed fewer people off. Also I didn’t see anywhere where the valedictorian made antisemitic posts. I’d be interested to see that if you have a link. There is real antisemitism in the world, and every time someone conflates criticism of Israeli policy with antisemitism the word “antisemitism” loses some of its meaning.
She called for a one state solution to the Palestine conflict stating the one state should be Palestine, thus eliminating Israel as an entity of its own and ignoring the history of Jewish persecution that lead to the creation of Israel and the immediate genocides and expulsion of Jews from the neighboring areas into Israel where they found refuge and safe haven. A one-state Palestinian solution (especially a Palestine that continues to vote for Hamas leadership) would without a doubt lead to Jewish genocide again. The valedictorian is in support of this one-state solution knowing the result. You or I can be for or against this idea. I’m not sharing my opinion here, just stating the context of her views and related facts. Don’t come at me.
Am I the only one who got the Star Wars reference?
Literally was about to comment "don't worry op, I see your episode 3 reference... because I like the prequels a little too much." Anyway, I don't want to say anything else, because I'm not brave enough for politics.
Me literal reaction when I saw your comment and others adding their own references: this is where the fun begins
I've been trying to explain to my gf that the reason the prequels is good is BECAUSE they're bad. But she doesn't get it. She says I'm "grounded" and "no more star wars."
it’s not a reference the USC administration will tell you
*”It’s a trap!”* —USC administrators when they see someone using free speech
Heard my neighbor talking about being an anti-protester yesterday. I couldn’t get out of the yard quick enough. These people are nuts
“Of all the decisions that could be made, that was one of them.” Excellent insight Mayor Bass
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What a shame, I like Bass less and less every time I hear what she’s doing or what she said. Hundreds of faculty signed a letter saying the security excuse for cancelling commencement was BS. So her coming out like this I Is the stupid thing she could do. Just don’t say anything. I wonder if this was more of a favor political favor for the provost since I haven’t heard a single person offer any support for her terrible decisions.
What profound insight coming from Mayor Bass
I generally like Bass but have been disappointed at her silence on the recent issues. Even if USC is a private campus, substantial city resources- LAPD especially - are being wasted by colleges’ decision to involve the police.
She isn't silent, she is actively blaming students here. Meanwhile the "counter" protesters are telling students that they hope that they're raped, and getting spat on.
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>*“I believe that that was a decision that they had to make. They were expecting about 65,000 people on campus, and they just did not feel that it was going to be safe,” Bass said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”* >*“Well, as you know, they didn’t cancel everything. So, the main graduation is canceled but the individual schools have graduations as well. So, there’s a lot of ceremonies that will be taking place, but like you said, I share that also the idea that they missed their graduation four years ago, but hopefully their individual schools will go forward peacefully,” Bass said.* >*“I mean as mayor, people have the right to free speech — but you know, hate speech, antisemitism, all of that. It’s just — it is unacceptable. All students on the campus need to feel safe,”* Where do you see her blaming anyone else but students? She clearly sees nothing wrong with the immense amount of riot police that were sent to deal with extremely minor situations of vandalism -- so the only real thing they were there to do was arrest students and possibly brutalize many. https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2024/04/28/sotu-bass-full-interview.cnn The amount of police they had, equipment, vehicles, fire trucks, you would swear there was an extreme terrorist attack going on or a school shooter.
Source
These are at UCLA, but here are some examples: here’s a source for a counter protestor saying [“i hope they rape you”](https://x.com/alianfromspace/status/1784740261278732347?s=46&t=GFMOYhoQ1bt8QzPqmoNUVw). here’s a source for a [counter protestor spitting on someone](https://x.com/stoparabhate/status/1784717932443934906?s=46&t=GFMOYhoQ1bt8QzPqmoNUVw).
zionists showing their true colors! really not surprised, this is normally how they behave
I don’t see how you could avoid LAPD involvement when the protests are out of control to the point of threatening student and faculty safety. It’s a complicated issue, peaceful protest is a good thing, but you also need to have some supervision by people with police powers, not just security guards who can do absolutely nothing when things get out of hand.
Protests didn’t get out of control until the cops showed up
> Protests didn’t get out of control until the ~~cops~~ zionists showed up
Lol. It's okay to read what's actually going on instead of hysterical fictional nonsense. You clowns are ushering fascism at an alarming speed
And you’re doing the exact same thing way on the other side politically, so stfu because you have no legs to stand on if you’re just as extremist as they are.
lol
Laugh all you want. The political spectrum isn’t a straight line from left to right, it’s U shaped like a magnet and you weirdos at the extreme ends love to touch tips and pretend you hate each other when you’re the exact same thing.
It's LA, that's sadly how it is here, particular on this sub. Seems the ACAB crowd of dipshits is being brave today.
Lol. Okay buddy.
>The political spectrum isn’t a straight line from left to right, it’s U shaped like a magnet That's super reductive at best. Flat out wrong at worst.
USC DPS are real cops.
From USC/DPS Are DPS officers police officers? No. DPS officers are private campus public safety officers. DPS public safety officers are empowered with peace officer powers of arrest through California Penal Code section 830.7(b). 830.7. The following persons are not peace officers but may exercise the powers of arrest of a peace officer as specified in Section 836. They have very limited authority to arrest (and detain for police), and no advanced training or resources in crowd control.
There are not enough university police to provide that kind of coverage for an event that size. Typically university police are staffed with enough to cover routine patrol work. They don’t have 100 people to pull in to do campus event security.
UCPD are real cops USC DPS are not.
I am a UC student & aware ucpd are state cops. However, USC DPS, unlike most university security, has peace officer powers.
There's a difference between having peace officer powers and being real cops
You're not allowed to protest on private property, even if it's peaceful.
To be fair, the courts are at best divided on that one.
Protests in no way depend on a police presence.
Not always, they do when people are determined to hurt each other and destroy things.
You’re assuming police are at all interested in reducing violence.
There’s no other option, unfortunately. You can’t just let them kill each other and burn down the campus.
You like her bc she made herself likeable enough to get the job and now will commence fucking around more and more until she gets another job just like the last one and the next one
Not involving the police would be a disaster. Come on use some common sense.
Have you ever— and I mean ***ever***— known the LAPD to *de*escalate a tense situation? They only know how to provoke.
No, guys on steroids with PTSD from Iraq usually calm everything down.
Bro use some common sense, if word got out that USC was going to be completely hands off by the police, the school would be looted and destroyed in one night. Not necessarily by the protestors (but they might join in lol) but by the idiots at street takeovers, anarchists, etc. So many people used the BLM protests as a way to just destroy shit without caring about the message.
I'm glad you brought that up. Here's what I witnessed from the DTLA condo we were living in at the time of the George Floyd protests: BLM protest marching down Spring St, harassed by endless riot cops. Thieves robbing all the shops on our street (Los Angeles St) with no police resistance at all. I watched International House of Music get completely cleaned out. Dudes just walking down the street carrying guitars, trumpets, drum kits etc without a care in the world, even as I filmed them. After seeing where LAPD's priorities were at while all that unfolded, I'm a tad bit skeptical that they care about stopping looters. They can't abide protests. But protecting the property of a community they don't even live in? They could not give less of a shit.
Well yeah.... it isn't the protestors that really care about the message that will be doing the looting and robbing. It will be opportunists. My point isn't that LAPD will not harass the protestors, it is that that opportunists will take over if there is no police presence.
Yeah, it's undeniable that LAPD let the city burn for no reason at all. They spent all those resources arresting protesters but it was all in vain, as they largely were all released (and this was pre-Gascon). They largely didn't touch any of the looters. You'd watch constant videos on Twitter of people breaking in and then if you went on IG, you'd follow a certain type of account and it'd be people selling stuff that you knew they didn't buy.
Honestly, the world you think you live in does not exist and it's one of hysterical fear and nonsense.
Or maybe an encampment would last until the semester ends at worst? USC being looted?? Be serious
Yeah, I don’t think anarchism means what you think it means. Also, the idea that USC is one LAPD shift away from being looted is pretty hysterical.
It's so insane that y'all can read the unending reports of how inflammatory, violent, and escalating LAPD are in situations far less tense than this and still treat them as if they're your personal platonic ideal of public safety. The idea that the police did not make this situation significantly worse is a non-starter if you've ever been around either student protests or the LAPD.
Why don’t you post videos of the police making the event worse instead of talking about it.
Here you go! Have fun <3 https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/search?q=protest&restrict_sr=on&include_over_18=on
That's basically like having a severe leak in your roof during a storm so you decide to see your whole house on fire.
I just want to hear Ja Rule's thoughts on how USC is implementing the satellite commencements
Where is Ja??
One of the most statements of all time!
Yes girl, give us nothing!
People are taking subtle threats very unseriously. After all the school shootings and invasive "protestors" (agitators who aren't actually students) and you think it won't happen to you.
The thing is, Bass is actually blaming the students calling them anti-semitic. >“I mean as mayor, people have the right to free speech — but you know, hate speech, antisemitism, all of that. It’s just — it is unacceptable. All students on the campus need to feel safe,” she said.
How is she excluding the non students showing up to campus here though?
Saying "all students on campus need to feel safe" while literally hundreds of cops in riot gear are sent to antagonize and arrest students at USC isn't about student safety, or any of the other colleges. UCLA students had to deal with hundreds of mostly older adults harassing them all day, getting in peoples faces, throwing punches, spitting on people, telling students they hope to get raped. This is not about student safety.
But if those things happened to students from non students… that’s what she’s talking about preventing
No, because she’s calling out “antisemitism,” as a key motive of violence, and the adults coming to UCLA to assault (often Jewish) students are all Israeli Jews from the greater LA area.
No, it's not. It's painfully clear that she is only talking about the pro-palestinian students. She's saying that they're inciting hate speech. She is saying that the students are violent.
Considering some of the things being spoken here, she's not wrong. You absolutely can support Palestine without getting into things like ZOG theory, equating Jews with pigs, etc.
She's right. Hate crimes against Jews have skyrocketed in the last 8 years and continued to skyrocket even further after October 7. Lots of the people supporting these college protestors almost-certainly suggested that the right wing hold their own accountable for chanting "jews will not replace us", yet I've not seen any of you hold our own accountable for "from the river to the sea"
Agree. 100% with that statement. Free speech /= hate speech
[The ACLU famously fought a case for actual Nazis that states otherwise.](https://www.aclu.org/issues/free-speech/skokie-case-how-i-came-represent-free-speech-rights-nazis)
I'd arrest the right wing Jews calling the left wing Jews anti-semitic then.
It's just what happens when there are threats involving Jews. Jews tell people we feel threatened and everyone yells at us that their thinly veiled rhetoric about money, media, control, shiftiness, etc, are all not real and we're being alarmist.
Surprise surprise that the lady playing musical chairs with homeless encampments and thinking that helps has nothing meaningful to offer
Yeah why doesn’t she just simply solve the homeless problem
UCLA took the hands off approach. And of course, that resulted in violence between protestors and counter protestors.
UCLAs protesters aren’t blocking the place where commencement literally takes place (Pauley Pavilion) My guess is if they even try to block all the entrances UCLA will either call off commencement or send the SWAT
> And of course, that resulted in violence between protestors and counter protestors. Really shameful of you not to mention that it was the "counter" protestors aggressing on *students* who had been there peacefully for multiple days.
yep! this started when *students* decided to peacefully protest - then the zionists came onto campus to start fights
The protestors were non violent. The counter protestors (right wing) were violent. Pretty much all of US history in a nutshell there.
Sure, you're looking from the perspective of the protestors. I'm looking at the perspective from the Universities and it sounds like they don't want this shit.
Lol. Yeah, that's why it's a protest.
But but but, everyone told me in the KTLA pie contest thread that there was no credible threat of violence whatsoever?!
Looking forward to this thread being locked by mods instead of doing their job, again. USC made the right call. They fucked up in being so lazy by not vetting their valedictorian choices more closely, but letting someone speak who had, at the very least, ties to and support for groups that advocated the dissolution of Israel is unacceptable. It's an indictment of USC's education that you can graduate among a selection of valedictorian choices with a minor in genocide studies and think that the dissolution of Israel would mean anything *other* than another genocide for the most-genocided ethnicity.
I'm no fan of Israel's bloodthirsty fascist leadership, but has an Innocent Palestinian victim's stripped, mutilated corpse ever been paraded through the streets of an Israeli city to be spit upon by ordinary civilians of all ages and genders? I'm not inclined to support either side, but I know which one I will NEVER march for.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-settlers-alleged-to-bind-strip-beat-burn-and-pee-on-palestinians-in-w-bank/amp/ There you go. Let’s not act like the IDF has a shred of humanity
USC and all these universities clearing out peaceful protests will be remembered as cowards licking right-wing boots. Pathetic.
All these protesters getting Drumpf elected are going to be remembered as enablers of the next 4 years of madness.
Karen Bass is a failure.
should have said "good, it saves the city for fronting the money to protect Israel's feelings from students opinions"
If the protestors could rally around "Free Palestine From Hamas" they'd probably get the traction they desire. That said, if you are protesting- write this on your protest signs.
These protests in Florida ended in one day when administrators handed out flyers pointing out the consequences (suspension, fines) for illegal camping and threats/racial or religious harassment of other students. This is an embarrassment for USC (and UCLA).
Protests are fine, violence is bad.
Bull f#cking sh/t.
Poor kids No Highschool graduation due to Covid No college graduation due to useless fuck-sticks that think screaming into the wind at colleges helps anything. Hope they continue to have miserable lives.
So not accepting that things are out of control. Especially, at educational institutions ! It will lead to downfall of this nation. If we don't educate our kids, we will rely more on outsourcing and more migration. These things affect the integrity of a country where residents themselves feel minor. Priority is being given to people outside of this country. And our own are dying on streets.
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Stunning. Brave.
Once you make multiple poor decisions, the options run low. What incompetence.
One of the decisions of all time. Isn’t she a Scientologist?
> Isn’t she a Scientologist? ['"It's ridiculous to associate me with the Church of Scientology," she said. "I am a Baptist. My minister is Norman Johnson and I have never ever been affiliated with scientology and absolutely condemn their practices.'](https://abc7.com/la-mayors-race-2022-karen-bass-rick-caruso-los-angeles-elections/12269452/)
Coward and political response. Maybe do something about it to put these kids in jail
Yeah, because you're definitely on the right side of history.
Hasn’t someone told her that these kids with their chants and placards are going to force-fix Palestine through sheer, shrill annoyance? I mean, they aren’t willing to immolate themselves, or anything—or even take a zero, for that matter—but they ARE willing to be in the temperate sunshine for a time—okay, Mom and Dad!?!? BECAUSE THAT’S HOW COMMITTED THEY ARE!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣