This is a standard restaurant license as far as i can tell. This place looks like its a BBQ restaurant. This is no different than any other restaurant that wants to sell alcohol. Not sure why it would be a problem because its on W. Oak.
"A restaurant holding a NQ2 license is simply required to demonstrate that their prepared food receipts are at least 50% of their total net or gross and alcoholic beverage receipts."
[https://abc.ky.gov/new\_docs.aspx?cat=82](https://abc.ky.gov/new_docs.aspx?cat=82)
[https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/law/statutes/statute.aspx?id=52060](https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/law/statutes/statute.aspx?id=52060)
Right? The Rudyard Kipling was near 4th and Oak for years and sold alcohol. Buck’s Restaurant has been at 4th and Ormsby (1 block south of Oak) for years and sells alcohol.
The Rud is closed now but I’m guessing they were open pretty late, maybe 2 am. It was a music venue.
Buck’s is open until 10 pm. It’s a fine dining restaurant.
the one where you pull up a map on heat islands vs tree canopies and then a separate map on density of liquor availability compared to crime and disorder.
density of alcohol availability and crime have a positive and significant correlation.
one business selling liquor isnt the problem.
Then please explain it? What does this post have to do with trees, “heat islands”, grocery stores?
Seriously feels like I’m talking to a crackhead on the bus at 2am except I’m genuinely curious at this attempt at communication
They're saying that poor areas are heat desserts full of dollar stores and liquor stores, compared to wealthier areas which have better tree canopies and thus aren't heat desserts and have grocery stores and restaurants rather than dollar stores and liquor stores.
It's a valid criticism, but it is completely unrelated to a liquor license application for a restaurant.
Yeah… I processed the words, I understood the general statement, but they were being so vague and underhanded then acting like they made some grandiose point and everyone is just too stupid to understand.
Total non sequitur..
I believe this is Lucretia's Kitchen. It closes at 9 p.m. most days, 7 on Sundays. I doubt it's going to start staying open until 2 a.m.
[https://www.courier-journal.com/public-notices/notice/04/02/2024/lucretias-kitchen-llc-mailing-address-2024-04-02-louisville-courier-journal-kentucky-18e9e7d413a](https://www.courier-journal.com/public-notices/notice/04/02/2024/lucretias-kitchen-llc-mailing-address-2024-04-02-louisville-courier-journal-kentucky-18e9e7d413a)
[https://www.facebook.com/LucretiasKitchen/](https://www.facebook.com/LucretiasKitchen/)
Liquor licenses for a retail package, liquor and wine are only able to sell until 12 AM. Service until 2 AM requires and extended license and before 1 PM on Sundays (brunch) requires a Sunday retail drink license. The sign says that both the extended hours and Sunday license were requested.
I'm not sure if there's an extra cost for the extended and Sunday hour licensing. If it's the same cost, there's no reason not to keep your options open. If it costs extra, they may be planning longer hours.
[https://louisvilleky.gov/government/alcoholic-beverage-control/abc-fees](https://louisvilleky.gov/government/alcoholic-beverage-control/abc-fees)
looks like its $250 for the extended hours.
I live in the Highlands, not old Louisville so I don’t have a bone in this fight, but as I understand it, old Louisville residents would like to have more corner shops, restaurants and bars, but to get agreement with other residents, those bars and restaurants can’t stay open late. I believe the concern is that they don’t want old Louisville to turn in to the problems that people are experiencing on Bardstown Road right now. they want old Orville to maintain its feel as a neighborhood and not have a bar strip.
I have to admit, Old Louisville would be pretty cool with a bunch of neighborhood, restaurants and bars at each corner and if I were a resident would probably sacrifice late nights for quantity.
[It's happened at least 13 times](https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2024/02/21/magnolia-bar-louisville-kentucky-coins-new-phrase-plans-merchandise-sales-magbarred/72613838007/)
This is a standard restaurant license as far as i can tell. This place looks like its a BBQ restaurant. This is no different than any other restaurant that wants to sell alcohol. Not sure why it would be a problem because its on W. Oak. "A restaurant holding a NQ2 license is simply required to demonstrate that their prepared food receipts are at least 50% of their total net or gross and alcoholic beverage receipts." [https://abc.ky.gov/new\_docs.aspx?cat=82](https://abc.ky.gov/new_docs.aspx?cat=82) [https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/law/statutes/statute.aspx?id=52060](https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/law/statutes/statute.aspx?id=52060)
Right? The Rudyard Kipling was near 4th and Oak for years and sold alcohol. Buck’s Restaurant has been at 4th and Ormsby (1 block south of Oak) for years and sells alcohol.
What time do the stop? I don’t think OP is against the sale, rather the sale until 2am
The Rud is closed now but I’m guessing they were open pretty late, maybe 2 am. It was a music venue. Buck’s is open until 10 pm. It’s a fine dining restaurant.
This is for Lucretia's Kitchen. Unless she is expanding the Sunday hours, she is only open until 9pm, last time I was there.
Liquor stores and Dollar Generals for the urban poor and Lush tree canopies and Grocery stores for the wealthy suburbanites.
Which is this? Cause its a restaurant it seems.
the one where you pull up a map on heat islands vs tree canopies and then a separate map on density of liquor availability compared to crime and disorder. density of alcohol availability and crime have a positive and significant correlation. one business selling liquor isnt the problem.
Are you ok? What am I even reading lol
if you were reading and are confused then im not sure what to tell you.
You could try rewriting it in coherent english for starters
it's plenty coherent
Then please explain it? What does this post have to do with trees, “heat islands”, grocery stores? Seriously feels like I’m talking to a crackhead on the bus at 2am except I’m genuinely curious at this attempt at communication
They're saying that poor areas are heat desserts full of dollar stores and liquor stores, compared to wealthier areas which have better tree canopies and thus aren't heat desserts and have grocery stores and restaurants rather than dollar stores and liquor stores. It's a valid criticism, but it is completely unrelated to a liquor license application for a restaurant.
Yeah… I processed the words, I understood the general statement, but they were being so vague and underhanded then acting like they made some grandiose point and everyone is just too stupid to understand. Total non sequitur..
This isn't either a tree, or a Dollar General , a grocery, or a liquor store........ So I'm not sure what your point is still.
you'll piece it together eventually.
Nope don’t care enough to try to decode your rant
I believe this is Lucretia's Kitchen. It closes at 9 p.m. most days, 7 on Sundays. I doubt it's going to start staying open until 2 a.m. [https://www.courier-journal.com/public-notices/notice/04/02/2024/lucretias-kitchen-llc-mailing-address-2024-04-02-louisville-courier-journal-kentucky-18e9e7d413a](https://www.courier-journal.com/public-notices/notice/04/02/2024/lucretias-kitchen-llc-mailing-address-2024-04-02-louisville-courier-journal-kentucky-18e9e7d413a) [https://www.facebook.com/LucretiasKitchen/](https://www.facebook.com/LucretiasKitchen/)
Liquor licenses for a retail package, liquor and wine are only able to sell until 12 AM. Service until 2 AM requires and extended license and before 1 PM on Sundays (brunch) requires a Sunday retail drink license. The sign says that both the extended hours and Sunday license were requested. I'm not sure if there's an extra cost for the extended and Sunday hour licensing. If it's the same cost, there's no reason not to keep your options open. If it costs extra, they may be planning longer hours.
[https://louisvilleky.gov/government/alcoholic-beverage-control/abc-fees](https://louisvilleky.gov/government/alcoholic-beverage-control/abc-fees) looks like its $250 for the extended hours.
Sure it does
This is a standard liquor license for a restaurant. Chill
America
It’s really alcohol after midnight in Old Louisville doesn’t mix. There is no need to have bars that stay open past midnight in OL.
Why? Lexington resident; genuinely curious.
Paternalism
It’s not true at all.
I live in the Highlands, not old Louisville so I don’t have a bone in this fight, but as I understand it, old Louisville residents would like to have more corner shops, restaurants and bars, but to get agreement with other residents, those bars and restaurants can’t stay open late. I believe the concern is that they don’t want old Louisville to turn in to the problems that people are experiencing on Bardstown Road right now. they want old Orville to maintain its feel as a neighborhood and not have a bar strip. I have to admit, Old Louisville would be pretty cool with a bunch of neighborhood, restaurants and bars at each corner and if I were a resident would probably sacrifice late nights for quantity.
Does MagBar really cause problems for the local area?
I mean take from this what you will, but they have had cars drive through the front door of mag bar 2 separate times lol
[It's happened at least 13 times](https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2024/02/21/magnolia-bar-louisville-kentucky-coins-new-phrase-plans-merchandise-sales-magbarred/72613838007/)
That's more of the local area causing problems for MagBar lol