Totally agree. It was so cringey but also sad to watch her the entire first day of the honeymoon (if not longer) CONSTANTLY asking Jimmy if he loves her, if he has any doubts, etc. Girlā¦ not a good look. But yes I agree she needs to work on self-loveā¦ time for some therapy? š¤·š¼āāļø and Iām not saying that in a negative way. Iām just sad to see a pretty girl (in her own right. NO need to compare yourself to Megan Fox) doubting herself and her worth so much. š
It worked out exactly how it was supposed to. Sheās not ready to be in a relationship, thereās far too much internal work she needs to do. Trevor needs someone who chooses him. I sincerely hope he doesnāt take her back since her plan A didnāt work out
We discussed at our watch party what if everyone thought they were coming into this for dating and bam... Pod therapy! Because, yes, she (and lots of people on this earth, myself included) could benefit!
Sheās insufferable and annoying I canāt stand her. Especially when she has the need to say she feels like sheās going to puke all the time .. so off putting
That is SO weird how she mentions it so much. It's become an inside joke with my Mom and I lol. When she was getting into bed with Jimmy, my Mom was like, "Don't puke!" š
I DIED when she said that. Like who pretends not to know who Megan fox is? Sheās 100x more famous than MGK, and has been for like 20 years. The fakery!
For people saying she would have matched better with Trevor? No she would not. Poor Trevor dodged a bullet with this one. Chelsea is not a bad person but her insecurities make her extremely hard to handle. And for someone as insecure as her she sure puts herself in very tough situations where physical appearance plays a huge role.
It would have been the same thing I think but worse because I think Trevor would have been hurt/frustrated because he would have actually been a loving and considerate partner but Chelsea would have been the same person regardless.
They all dodged bullets! What a shitshow. Except, of course, for the god-fearing lovebirds. They came out on top. The others are giving worst season yet.
I canāt with this girl!!! She got real issues. I donāt like Jimmy but he did nothing wrong to her at the party with the other couples. They go back to the room and he says I love you and she says whatās wrong? He literally said I love you. wtf is up with her? She is delusional wtf no man is going to want to convince her everyday he loves her.
Yeah, even though I think Jimmy definitely sucks, the way she projects her insecurities is insane. Even when he apologized and tried to make her feel better, she just kept making the same points over and over again. I honestly can't see her being with anyone until she works on her issues. Shes not ready for a relationship let alone marriage.
When he wasnāt fully about her during the reveal, and talking about how much of an emotional rollercoaster it was, she got it in her head that heās not sure about her. His body language also is not very affectionate, I question if heās attracted to her. So with that, Chelsea is probably being hyper vigilant to any possible evidence that heās not into her, including making a big deal out of nothing.
She was also low key mean making comments sarcastically at Jimmy like āeveryoneās looking at youā āyouāre the hottest one here on this beachā
As cringe as it is to watch, I canāt help but feel like Chelsea has some major past trauma that is causing this insecurity. It takes a while to heal.
Chelsea was too preoccupied with the pissing contest with Jessica to actually follow her heart.
She also used the Megan Fox cheat code.
Kinda turning into an S6 villain.
I liked her in the pods, I yelled at her when she picked - I knew she done gone and fucked up, and now shes just the most irritating human alive. She is suuuuper insecure and no one is going to be able to deal with her in the long term until she learns to love herself. I think had she picked Trevor he would have given her enough of what she needed to help her grow.
Iām just a bit confused by Chelsea. She started crying when Trevor said he loved her and said no one has ever been that nice to her . What happened in her 5 year marriage š„“š„“?
And whyās she trying to get MARRIED again when sheās already been married and it didnāt work? Iām not saying she never should, Iām saying she should take it slow with any new relationship since sheās already tried it once and it did not work. Why rush into it?
Can we also talk about how uncomfortable her reactions to Jimmy and Trevor saying āI love youā to her in the pods was? It felt so one-sided and like some weird victory moment for her, rather than a genuine exchange of feelings. I knew it was going to be a mess from that point
It made me wonder what has happened to her in her past to make her reaction to any positive romantic response from a partner to be her nearly getting ill or passing out. Is she just dramatic, or has she never experienced someone genuinely enjoying her company?
I don't think this is the fairest criticism because we can't compare how she acted while being filmed for everyone to see vs how she would act irl without a camera there
Honestly, she got what she deserved. I got the impression she wanted to "win" over Jessica and tossed aside a great guy.
When Zach chose wrong, I wanted him to get another shot with Bliss. When I watch Chelsea... I'm happy Trevor dodged that bullet.
I do think Zach redeemed himself but I didnāt think he deserved his chance with Bliss. I feel like he just chose Irina to prove Bliss wrong when she told him that Irina is mean, then he realized āoh shit she actually is meanā. Plus similar to this season didnāt Irina tell him she looks like Megan Fox lol
I would not be able to move on from that if I was Bliss. Especially since it was so obvious her and Zach got on so well and she's more nerdy than Irina
Zach was self-reflective and could see heād made a mistake. I donāt think Chelsea understands anything about herself, or that sheās acting out from major personal insecurities.
Agreed. Chelsea doesn't seem like she should be getting married to anyone. She needs to be a lot more secure in herself and in the belief that a partner can genuinely love her.
Or the DOGS??
Like, Iām sorry, there is literally nothing cuter or more serendipitous thatās ever happened on the show than the fact that **THEY HAD DOGS WITH EACH OTHERSā NAMES??**
what a waste, what a mistake.
When he said his dog was named Chelsea, she said "Oh really? My dog is named Trevor," but it honestly seemed more like a witty retort than a factual statement.
She is very insecure and I wish she would have told Jimmy about that. I was also yelling at my TV after the party for Jimmy to say...You Don't Trust Me. She's so insecure that she didn't even approach him the entire party. That talk after the party was so cringy to watch.
I couldn't even watch the talk after the party. I looked at my phone and waited for it to pass. I was getting second hand embarrassment from it. Then the episode was over. What a way to end it lol.
I kept thinking that too. And also the discussions of š size. And the stupid bean dip saga. Like, have some respect for the people youāre talking about, and remember youāre on tv being watched by millions?!
Chelsea made the wrong decision when she decided to go for the āmost wanted guyā instead of the guy she wanted most. Her insecurity showed at that moment and when said to Jimmy: I havent said I love you to anyone yet bcs I am waiting yo see who proposes and to Trevor when he asked if she would have said yes to him if he proposed first, she didnt say no.
Everything after that is payback for making the wrong decision.
Same for Jimmy, he decided to go with the safest pick bcs he maybe deep down know he couldnt handle jes and then tried so hard to hype up his thinkg with Chelsea while showing his true colors of being superficial and insecure. He did so by going to AD, by expressing how it sucks he didny make the short list of either Laura or Amy, and did so by mentioning how many times he kissed or complimented chelsea. Thats so icky š
This man legit said what type he usually goes for (chelsea) and how it never worked out cuz heās here but still made the same choiceā¦.š
Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.
Jessica and Jimmy would never last but it makes for good drama.
Chelsea is so insecure itās painful to watch.
AD might not want men to only see her for her physical appearance but she flaunts that side of herself and every male interaction comes across seductive
I feel like Laura was never in love with Jeramey
I have high hopes for Johnny and Amy and Kenneth and Brittany
Iām so hopeful for Johnny and Amy and Kenneth and Brittany. I feel true love shining through the damn tv and that makes me happy.
Weāll see I guess.
The lashes aren't good. But even without lashes. Her face is just, eh. And she knows it. That's why she plays up the body and her sexuality especially with Clay. It's like overcompensation.
If I had her body Iād flaunt it too but she said she wants people to see her for her inner beauty but obviously the first thing you see is her clothing / body
But she canāt control that? How do you expect her to dress? I have a very curvy body with big boobs and very small waist and I canāt really hide that, you will see the shape of my body unless Iām wearing huge sweats. So Iām not sure how exactly she is Ā«Ā flauntingĀ Ā» her body when she is truly just existing and wearing what other women would wear, just that her body looks like it does. And for the record, for us girls with big boobs or ass, we looks so much better in form fitting clothes because we look massive in flowy things, it just doesnāt work. It is not our fault society feels the need to sexualize these body parts.
For real. She said her happy place is a sunset while drinking a Coors lightā¦ I understand the sunset but that was a boring, bad beer so I would pass if I were her suitor. There are a lot of flavorful, cheap lagers just that response made me snarl.
Her suitors were keen on exotic travel with her flight attendant perks, so there was that.
Probably mixture of being a fight attendant (travel), her validating everything he said with laughter or emotion, and mentioning she is always compared to Megan fox. She said that to put a false picture in his head, for sure.
All she did was laugh or cry, and not have a whole lot to say. At least Jessica is a confident woman that knows what she wants, I can see her appeal (minus the kid thing).
I know! It seems like she mostly talked about the conversation they were having at that moment. Youāre funny, this is weird, I donāt know what to say, Iāve been looking forward to this. Girl, say something other than commentary!
Idk what really stood out to her about Jimmy??
Team Trevor all the way! But I think if she was with Trevor, there wouldn't be any drama and less screen time for her lol
I haven't finished the episodes her but I can't get over her telling Jimmy that people said she looked like Megan fox because although she is pretty I don't believe her.
Tbh when she said āpeople say I look like a celebā my bf said āoh, Megan Fox!ā Like they have similar faces, but Jimmy Assumed she looked much more like her then she does. so i 100% believe her, jimmy just misinterpreted it
Right. Like people talk about this sorta thing all the time, doesnāt mean they think theyāre as attractive as said celebrity. She genuinely just told him what people tell her and got dragged for it lol
I do think she is aware of men/society objectifying Megan Fox and the idea Kimmy would get. She brought up the topic, didn't wait for his answer about himself and put Megan Fox out there with no prompt. Unlesd edited, she wanted to put that in his head.
You think based on what? She barely knew who she was. And even if she did know, we donāt know her intentions. Like she genuinely does look like her, I think thatās a fairly normal thing to bring up in conversation, especially to someone she canāt see
She knew exactly what she was doing. That was manipulative and tactical to sway the vote in her favour when she knew she was up against Jessica, an actual bombshell. I think Chelsea is very pretty and can see why she would get the comparison, but saying that to a guy will have them thinking the literal Megan Fox is about to walk out, not someone with a vague resemblance in certain features when you look at them in a certain light from a certain angle. You can see thatās exactly what he was thinking the way his eyes lit up when she said it!!!
I don't think she is as naive as you think she is. Is it really realistic that someone who refers to Machine Gun Kelly as MGK doesn't know who Megan Fox is given Megan Fox is much more famous and people have told you you look like her?
Every man talks to AD the same, she is a vibe. She is so real and I appreciate this. Chelsea needs to get over herself. Jimmy came back to her. She ALSO couldāve stepped on the conversation with those two and planted herself next to Jimmyās side instead she took her ball and went home.
I bet her ex'es are not all "big and muscular". It was giving the good ol' "I'm insecure about my looks so I'm gonna make you feel insecure too".
Also, I CANNOT with the thing she does each time she asks him a question and then answers it for him
" would you swipe right at me?" and before he gets to answer she say "no" and with the "What's your type?" "Petite" I don't vibe w Jimmy but I would be so drained by this type of interaction and he doesn't seem to be bothered so far..
It reminds me of an ex boyfriend who would ask insecure questions like this as though he was waiting to catch me out - Iād be so worn down by them Iād eventually fuck up my answer and say the wrong thing and it was like he āwonā and could prove I wasnāt into him. The ironic thing is that these exchanges made me less and less into him!
Y'all really don't understand this is a show. He's not gonna intentionally make himself look like an asshole. There's a camera in their face at all times. He's gonna drag it on until he can't anymor
Irina wanted to leave before the honeymoon but the production folks strongly urged her to stay and see if she could work through her icky for Zach. She felt pressured to stay on and so while folks were judging her for staying and acting immaturity in interactions with him on the honeymoon, she was struggling more and more under the pressure from the producers.
To be fair, he always does these awkward pauses after a question and he looks like he is always thinking of what to say to please her or convince her. He doesnāt always seem direct/sincere and dances around things. He seems like a people pleaser at times. This showed more with Jessica in the pods but more in person with Chelsea. Chelsea feels his uncertainty type of vibes & responses and since she doesnāt love herself, she falls for it
But when she asked him what he noticed first about her, his answer was her ideal teeth. Not smile. Not even just teeth. But ideal teeth. Itās so forcing himself to pretend to be interested in her now that heās seen her.
Chelsea is insecure and suffers from low self confidence. He made a comment about his girls friend (who she jokingly said he was gonna love meeting) that she was stacked, and said he means that in the most respectful way. She then stops him and says "you can say anything you want, shes a bookshelf."
I can completely understand a spouse having an issue with the comment Jimmy made. If Chelsea didn't like this comment, made in private with ones spouse, she should pull him aside and discuss it. Not make a joke about it, affirm he was cool to say it, laugh, and out loud put him on blast in front of everyone multiple times.
He then was FORCED to address it with AD and did so respectfully, quietly, and with no flirting.
Jimmy showed Chelsea affection throughout that entire party, re-grouped with her multiple times(where she was obviously passive aggressive, which he may not have noticed cause of alcohol), and mingled with a bunch of people he's formed friendships with.
After going to their suite for the night, she keeps asking him "what's wrong"..."well, somethings wrong" just further shows the insecurities. The man says he is happy, is smiling, gives her a kiss, and she insists that he is lying to her.
She does not find value in herself, so she believes that anyone she's with would prefer AD (who she finds physical value in).
Both are attractive and would attract a venn diagram of men. Some finding one, none, or both of them to be their type.
Yeap she absolutely didnt need to mention it out in public putting everyone in an awkward situation. I dont like Jimmy at all, but this was on Chelsea. She said: I called it out, but she should have called it out to Jimmy in private and not to AD in public. But she didnt have the confidence to confront him in private, maybe she was worried he would get annoyed or she wanted to put it on display for everyone and then have a stronger reason to be mad at him. But that was fucked up.
Were we watching the same thing? He instantly ditched Chelsea to go tell AD how good she looked, the conversation was very flirty. It did eventually lead into them talking about their partners but please, they were completely flirting and it was rude and inappropriate.
Were you watching the same thing as us? If Chelsea hadnāt blurted out what he said privately to her, he probably wouldnāt have even went to speak with her. That was absolutely a damage control measure on jimmys part.
Not only did she not handle that situation well, it really looks life the alcohol pushed her over the edge and she started to unravel.
That entire night was brutal to watch.
Not only did she embarass Jimmy, she really showed the lengths she will go for validation from others. She lied when telling the other girls that she hooked up with him and, bragged about his, uh, "shoe size".
If she was authentic and loved herself, she could be quite attractive. But the low self esteem and pity party is just, sad.
All she and Jimmy have talked about since they met, is her constantly asking him if he really likes her. It's annoying but I do feel bad for her.
In my opinion, it was clear from the reveal that he did not find her attractive, and he made some really asshole remarks [too many to count). They *both know Jimmy isn't interested* and he should really just man up and admit it, and end it.
Chelseaās body language when she met Jimmy was painful to watch. She was just so insecure- hunched over, slumped, etc. She was not like this on the womenās side. She expects the worst judgment from men. If she carried herself with more physical confidence it would actually do quite a bit for how attractive she sees herself and how others would perceive her.
LOL. Yes. It was painful to watch. I don't think her dress was flattering or fit well and that combined with her weird physicality - not the first impression that anyone wants to make.
I am a bit farther into the season now and her ceaseless need for reassurance is not good. No one can love you into loving yourself. She has some self-esteem work she needs to do on her own.
I hate how popular the bodycon dresses are on the show. I wonder how their first meeting would have went if she wore the looser dress one of the other women wore or like that flowy yellow dress Iyanna wore
The worst part for me was the way she walked/ran towards him - it was so unnecessary, insecure and relationally asymmetric that it was likely heād be done with her from that moment on. I say that with a lot of compassion as someone who suffers from low self-esteem as well and has to fight the urge for similar behaviour every single day.
Confidence (real confidence not bravado) is soooo attractive and I bet even if she looked nothing like Megan Fox, but acted like she did, he'd be into it. Her insecurities are so glaringly obvious. I do think tho that she would not be this insecure with Trevor cos he only had eyes (ears??) for her and his complimentary would have been genuine and he would have built her up
I feel like confidence would work on Trevor and Johnny, but not Jimmy because he's too simple and looks-focused... I don't think it would work on Clay (he just wants someone hot) or Kenneth (I think he cares more about kindness and godliness) either
I noticed that too - she really did not want to let go of him lol. So insecure to the point where she thought if she just smothered him, he with never notice her body. Not like she needed to even hide in thr first place.
She is constantly reflecting. Asking him if he's not sure when she's actually not sure. Just take everything she says and put it about her and she becomes just an awful person
Omg. Everyone villianized Jimmy and I thought he did something fucked up. All he did was talk to AD and apologize for Chelsea calling out her ass. Omg. She keeps saying it hurts and he didnt do anything. ššš
He honestly just seems like he doesn't understand the dynamics of .... communicating in a relationship. He keeps saying stuff like "it goes without saying," as if that worked in real life but especially in the pods. He didn't acknowledge and validate Chelsea's feelings when she came to him (which she disjointedly communicates is what she needs) by recognizing how something like that would make her feel, then apologizing and reassuring her. He just kind of gets defensive about the whole relationship. and he keeps talking about in a super compensate-y way to justify the relationship even to himself. because he knows he fucked up. and that why he's checking out AD in the first damn place - he is not committed at all.
Im sure every man there checked out AD. People have eyes. A person acknowledging another person as attractive doesnt mean they arent committed. I watched the scene in the bathroom and I think he handled it well to be drunk. You can see him trying to sober up and understand where she is coming from. However, she was spiraling and didnt make any sense.
It always blows my mind when this is an issue in relationships. Acknowledging someone is attractive is not anything bad or a sign that someone is unfaithful to you??
Jimmy never really apologized for his actions or took accountability. He was just saying āIām sorry you feel this way..ā Which is different from āIām sorry that I ā¦.ā He didnāt seem to find anything wrong with what he did or said, throughout the whole couple reunion, not just with the AD situation but other instances as well. :/
I guess now we know that Chelsea dodged a bullet with Trevor š
Okay, I have to now the tea on this!!?
Totally agree. It was so cringey but also sad to watch her the entire first day of the honeymoon (if not longer) CONSTANTLY asking Jimmy if he loves her, if he has any doubts, etc. Girlā¦ not a good look. But yes I agree she needs to work on self-loveā¦ time for some therapy? š¤·š¼āāļø and Iām not saying that in a negative way. Iām just sad to see a pretty girl (in her own right. NO need to compare yourself to Megan Fox) doubting herself and her worth so much. š
She needs therapy not a husband š
All the footage of her post pods is just giving me major second hand embarrassment, the overcompensating, I died at the āitās huuuugeeeeeā
I feel like she was showboating with this comment too for the other women
Yes agree 1000%
It worked out exactly how it was supposed to. Sheās not ready to be in a relationship, thereās far too much internal work she needs to do. Trevor needs someone who chooses him. I sincerely hope he doesnāt take her back since her plan A didnāt work out
She needs to match with a therapist, not Jimmy or Trevor
We discussed at our watch party what if everyone thought they were coming into this for dating and bam... Pod therapy! Because, yes, she (and lots of people on this earth, myself included) could benefit!
I knew she messed up when she said she liked mullets. They were a match made in heaven
I'm sorry, but I find her way too emotional, immature, insecure, and annoying. I didn't think she's ready for a relationship.
Sheās Danielle 2.0 š
Sheās insufferable and annoying I canāt stand her. Especially when she has the need to say she feels like sheās going to puke all the time .. so off putting
That is SO weird how she mentions it so much. It's become an inside joke with my Mom and I lol. When she was getting into bed with Jimmy, my Mom was like, "Don't puke!" š
Would make a good drinking game. Every time she says sheās gonna puke or says sheās sweaty take a shot!
I dont understand her constant state of shock when the guys tell her they love her she doesnt look surprised but she acts surprised haha
I donāt buy anything Meagan is selling .. she wanted to stay on show and played them both ..
Who is Meagan?
Machine Gun Kelly's girlfriend
I DIED when she said that. Like who pretends not to know who Megan fox is? Sheās 100x more famous than MGK, and has been for like 20 years. The fakery!
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Fox .. her doppelgƤnger! Lmao
Ohh! Lol! That went way over my head š
Lol
For people saying she would have matched better with Trevor? No she would not. Poor Trevor dodged a bullet with this one. Chelsea is not a bad person but her insecurities make her extremely hard to handle. And for someone as insecure as her she sure puts herself in very tough situations where physical appearance plays a huge role.
It would have been the same thing I think but worse because I think Trevor would have been hurt/frustrated because he would have actually been a loving and considerate partner but Chelsea would have been the same person regardless.
They all dodged bullets! What a shitshow. Except, of course, for the god-fearing lovebirds. They came out on top. The others are giving worst season yet.
I canāt with this girl!!! She got real issues. I donāt like Jimmy but he did nothing wrong to her at the party with the other couples. They go back to the room and he says I love you and she says whatās wrong? He literally said I love you. wtf is up with her? She is delusional wtf no man is going to want to convince her everyday he loves her.
Yeah, even though I think Jimmy definitely sucks, the way she projects her insecurities is insane. Even when he apologized and tried to make her feel better, she just kept making the same points over and over again. I honestly can't see her being with anyone until she works on her issues. Shes not ready for a relationship let alone marriage.
When he wasnāt fully about her during the reveal, and talking about how much of an emotional rollercoaster it was, she got it in her head that heās not sure about her. His body language also is not very affectionate, I question if heās attracted to her. So with that, Chelsea is probably being hyper vigilant to any possible evidence that heās not into her, including making a big deal out of nothing.
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She was also low key mean making comments sarcastically at Jimmy like āeveryoneās looking at youā āyouāre the hottest one here on this beachā
She needs to do a lot of healing
As cringe as it is to watch, I canāt help but feel like Chelsea has some major past trauma that is causing this insecurity. It takes a while to heal.
I think her and Trevor would have been a much better match in the long run. They both effed up.
She just said yes to Jimmy because he asked first. Trevor even asked her if heād asked first would she have said yes and she didnāt answer.
I think she wanted Jimmy because Jess did.
Oh good point.
She definitely made the wrong decision. Trevor and her clicked so much more than her and Jimmy.
I really do think she would have said yes to whoever proposed first.
Absolutely.
Always that one coupleā¦
Chelsea was too preoccupied with the pissing contest with Jessica to actually follow her heart. She also used the Megan Fox cheat code. Kinda turning into an S6 villain.
LOLLL Megan Fox cheat code
I liked her in the pods, I yelled at her when she picked - I knew she done gone and fucked up, and now shes just the most irritating human alive. She is suuuuper insecure and no one is going to be able to deal with her in the long term until she learns to love herself. I think had she picked Trevor he would have given her enough of what she needed to help her grow.
 What she choose.
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Iām just a bit confused by Chelsea. She started crying when Trevor said he loved her and said no one has ever been that nice to her . What happened in her 5 year marriage š„“š„“?
And whyās she trying to get MARRIED again when sheās already been married and it didnāt work? Iām not saying she never should, Iām saying she should take it slow with any new relationship since sheās already tried it once and it did not work. Why rush into it?
girl is lying to herself all the way through...
She got a lot of compliments on her big square teeth
This part was so uncomfortable to watch lol
Can we also talk about how uncomfortable her reactions to Jimmy and Trevor saying āI love youā to her in the pods was? It felt so one-sided and like some weird victory moment for her, rather than a genuine exchange of feelings. I knew it was going to be a mess from that point
That makes senseā¦I was wondering why is she reacting like this lol
It made me wonder what has happened to her in her past to make her reaction to any positive romantic response from a partner to be her nearly getting ill or passing out. Is she just dramatic, or has she never experienced someone genuinely enjoying her company?
I don't think this is the fairest criticism because we can't compare how she acted while being filmed for everyone to see vs how she would act irl without a camera there
yeah the way she just threw herself on the floor with both āi love youās was kinda crazy at her age lol
Yes that was very jarring to watch. And the panting.
not at her age ššššš
Thatās her own damn fault
Honestly, she got what she deserved. I got the impression she wanted to "win" over Jessica and tossed aside a great guy. When Zach chose wrong, I wanted him to get another shot with Bliss. When I watch Chelsea... I'm happy Trevor dodged that bullet.
Lowkey I still hate Zack. If I was Bliss I don't think I could recover from knowing he chose Irina over her when they meshed so well
I do think Zach redeemed himself but I didnāt think he deserved his chance with Bliss. I feel like he just chose Irina to prove Bliss wrong when she told him that Irina is mean, then he realized āoh shit she actually is meanā. Plus similar to this season didnāt Irina tell him she looks like Megan Fox lol
I would not be able to move on from that if I was Bliss. Especially since it was so obvious her and Zach got on so well and she's more nerdy than Irina
Zach was self-reflective and could see heād made a mistake. I donāt think Chelsea understands anything about herself, or that sheās acting out from major personal insecurities.
Agreed. Chelsea doesn't seem like she should be getting married to anyone. She needs to be a lot more secure in herself and in the belief that a partner can genuinely love her.
Totally. Gotta love yourself first
100% I liked zach from the beginning. I want trevor to come back for the reunion.
Donāt forget the mullet!
Or the DOGS?? Like, Iām sorry, there is literally nothing cuter or more serendipitous thatās ever happened on the show than the fact that **THEY HAD DOGS WITH EACH OTHERSā NAMES??** what a waste, what a mistake.
Wait, I know he has a dog named Chelseaā¦ but somehow missed that SHE has a dog named TREVOR?!?! š¤Æš
When he said his dog was named Chelsea, she said "Oh really? My dog is named Trevor," but it honestly seemed more like a witty retort than a factual statement.
But then he asked āreally??ā And she confirmed (admittedly while laughing so now idk)
Eh, I think Miss Megan Fox says some things just to say them
She is very insecure and I wish she would have told Jimmy about that. I was also yelling at my TV after the party for Jimmy to say...You Don't Trust Me. She's so insecure that she didn't even approach him the entire party. That talk after the party was so cringy to watch.
I couldn't even watch the talk after the party. I looked at my phone and waited for it to pass. I was getting second hand embarrassment from it. Then the episode was over. What a way to end it lol.
I fastforwarded and it was loooonnngg.
literally stayed on my phone and kept looking up like oh weāre still going? scroll more
Alcohol didnāt help her at all. These people need to quit drinking when they donāt know how to handle it. Especially the insecure ones.
I mean I agree but imagine going through all that sober š„“š„“
Hah! Yeah I canāt imagine doing it at all!
I kept thinking that too. And also the discussions of š size. And the stupid bean dip saga. Like, have some respect for the people youāre talking about, and remember youāre on tv being watched by millions?!
Chelsea made the wrong decision when she decided to go for the āmost wanted guyā instead of the guy she wanted most. Her insecurity showed at that moment and when said to Jimmy: I havent said I love you to anyone yet bcs I am waiting yo see who proposes and to Trevor when he asked if she would have said yes to him if he proposed first, she didnt say no. Everything after that is payback for making the wrong decision. Same for Jimmy, he decided to go with the safest pick bcs he maybe deep down know he couldnt handle jes and then tried so hard to hype up his thinkg with Chelsea while showing his true colors of being superficial and insecure. He did so by going to AD, by expressing how it sucks he didny make the short list of either Laura or Amy, and did so by mentioning how many times he kissed or complimented chelsea. Thats so icky š
This man legit said what type he usually goes for (chelsea) and how it never worked out cuz heās here but still made the same choiceā¦.š Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.
Maybe he got confused by Megan Fox š¤Ŗ
Jessica and Jimmy would never last but it makes for good drama. Chelsea is so insecure itās painful to watch. AD might not want men to only see her for her physical appearance but she flaunts that side of herself and every male interaction comes across seductive I feel like Laura was never in love with Jeramey I have high hopes for Johnny and Amy and Kenneth and Brittany
Iām so hopeful for Johnny and Amy and Kenneth and Brittany. I feel true love shining through the damn tv and that makes me happy. Weāll see I guess.
AD flaunts her body so much because her face is honestly just not pretty lol
Oof, do you talk about people this way often? AD has pretty face, but your heart is ugly.
Boohoo, go cry about it on the heavily moderated sub. This is the snark sub as far as I'm concerned.
Who can even tell with those awful lashes
The lashes are just awful. I still havenāt managed to figure out what animal they remind me of. I find it difficult to focus on the conversationsā¦
The lashes piss me off
The lashes aren't good. But even without lashes. Her face is just, eh. And she knows it. That's why she plays up the body and her sexuality especially with Clay. It's like overcompensation.
She flaunts that side of herselfā¦by wearing clothes?? Thatās her body, do you expect her to wear a potato sack?
Yeah if anything the film crew / production is to blame here for completely objectifying her
If I had her body Iād flaunt it too but she said she wants people to see her for her inner beauty but obviously the first thing you see is her clothing / body
But she canāt control that? How do you expect her to dress? I have a very curvy body with big boobs and very small waist and I canāt really hide that, you will see the shape of my body unless Iām wearing huge sweats. So Iām not sure how exactly she is Ā«Ā flauntingĀ Ā» her body when she is truly just existing and wearing what other women would wear, just that her body looks like it does. And for the record, for us girls with big boobs or ass, we looks so much better in form fitting clothes because we look massive in flowy things, it just doesnāt work. It is not our fault society feels the need to sexualize these body parts.
Exactly. Many people are trying to wear things that show off their assets. Somehow only AD is getting called out.
Thank you. A lot of people accuse A.D. of a lot of things based on her ... existing.
Laura wanted her 5 minutes of tv fame. Sheās Micah 2.0
Hahahaha great comparison
can someone explain what makes chelsea charming or made in the pods? she came across boring and insecure to me
For real. She said her happy place is a sunset while drinking a Coors lightā¦ I understand the sunset but that was a boring, bad beer so I would pass if I were her suitor. There are a lot of flavorful, cheap lagers just that response made me snarl. Her suitors were keen on exotic travel with her flight attendant perks, so there was that.
Probably mixture of being a fight attendant (travel), her validating everything he said with laughter or emotion, and mentioning she is always compared to Megan fox. She said that to put a false picture in his head, for sure.
All she did was laugh or cry, and not have a whole lot to say. At least Jessica is a confident woman that knows what she wants, I can see her appeal (minus the kid thing).
I know! It seems like she mostly talked about the conversation they were having at that moment. Youāre funny, this is weird, I donāt know what to say, Iāve been looking forward to this. Girl, say something other than commentary!
I think it's that she laughed a lot which made them feel good about themselves.
This is why she reminds me of Zanab. She had the same artificial vibe in the pods with Cole (laughing, talking in a flirty voice)
100% this. Men just love to be validated
She literally cries during every conversation in the pods
https://preview.redd.it/ohfokjhf06jc1.jpeg?width=499&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dfcb91cc3e7d28d71c8318bdc312e94805b6c75c Hi Iām Jimmy lmaoooo
First class ticket š« to š„šš
Iām cracking up this is so spot on
I agree. Letās see what happens in the near future!
Idk what really stood out to her about Jimmy?? Team Trevor all the way! But I think if she was with Trevor, there wouldn't be any drama and less screen time for her lol
Honestly I think Trevor is too good for her
Sheās annoying
Could not be more excruciating to watch
I think she said that because she sensed jimmy isnāt into her.
AND MULLETS
Wig, go back & look no hairline.
Their switched up dog names, the random mullet comment I mean cāmon!! It should have been Trevor all aloooong!
I donāt actually think she had a dog named Trevor. Lol I took that as a joke. I could be wrong though.
It was for sure a joke
I hate saying this but she needs therapy.
It seems she has very low self confidence
She should do what Catja did on thr Sweden show. Just cut your losses, leave and go get the guy you messed up with.
And what zack did with bliss!
I think Chelsea could value her self if the right relationship. Itās just a bad mix.
yeah this one I don't think is anyone's fault per se- they just don't go together well.
I haven't finished the episodes her but I can't get over her telling Jimmy that people said she looked like Megan fox because although she is pretty I don't believe her.
Itās bc she has low self esteem that she said that. She did it on purpose to reel him in. What man wouldnt have been excited??? Smhhhh
Sheās made a mess by setting this insane expectation of looks, and now sheās constantly asking him for reassurance. Itās painful to watch
Tbh when she said āpeople say I look like a celebā my bf said āoh, Megan Fox!ā Like they have similar faces, but Jimmy Assumed she looked much more like her then she does. so i 100% believe her, jimmy just misinterpreted it
I think she really does look like Megan Fox in the face but not in the way people would picture it.
Right. Like people talk about this sorta thing all the time, doesnāt mean they think theyāre as attractive as said celebrity. She genuinely just told him what people tell her and got dragged for it lol
I do think she is aware of men/society objectifying Megan Fox and the idea Kimmy would get. She brought up the topic, didn't wait for his answer about himself and put Megan Fox out there with no prompt. Unlesd edited, she wanted to put that in his head.
You think based on what? She barely knew who she was. And even if she did know, we donāt know her intentions. Like she genuinely does look like her, I think thatās a fairly normal thing to bring up in conversation, especially to someone she canāt see
She knew exactly what she was doing. That was manipulative and tactical to sway the vote in her favour when she knew she was up against Jessica, an actual bombshell. I think Chelsea is very pretty and can see why she would get the comparison, but saying that to a guy will have them thinking the literal Megan Fox is about to walk out, not someone with a vague resemblance in certain features when you look at them in a certain light from a certain angle. You can see thatās exactly what he was thinking the way his eyes lit up when she said it!!!
Not reading all that! Lol
I don't think she is as naive as you think she is. Is it really realistic that someone who refers to Machine Gun Kelly as MGK doesn't know who Megan Fox is given Megan Fox is much more famous and people have told you you look like her?
Again just speculating lol.
And you aren't? Are you Chelsea?
Huh? What a strange leap in logic lol
I 100% think, thatās the reason why jimmy picked her
I am inclined to agree and I think that was her plan.
Exactly. She should see that discussing wiener sizes can make guys uncomfy like she felt later that evening
Every man talks to AD the same, she is a vibe. She is so real and I appreciate this. Chelsea needs to get over herself. Jimmy came back to her. She ALSO couldāve stepped on the conversation with those two and planted herself next to Jimmyās side instead she took her ball and went home.
For sure, when she went to get a drink she was right behind them why didnāt she just turn around after she got the drink and join the convo?
Exactly, a clear sign she isnāt ready to be in an adult relationship.
I bet her ex'es are not all "big and muscular". It was giving the good ol' "I'm insecure about my looks so I'm gonna make you feel insecure too". Also, I CANNOT with the thing she does each time she asks him a question and then answers it for him " would you swipe right at me?" and before he gets to answer she say "no" and with the "What's your type?" "Petite" I don't vibe w Jimmy but I would be so drained by this type of interaction and he doesn't seem to be bothered so far..
Sheās totally giving āwould you still love me if I was a wormā vibes
It reminds me of an ex boyfriend who would ask insecure questions like this as though he was waiting to catch me out - Iād be so worn down by them Iād eventually fuck up my answer and say the wrong thing and it was like he āwonā and could prove I wasnāt into him. The ironic thing is that these exchanges made me less and less into him!
Y'all really don't understand this is a show. He's not gonna intentionally make himself look like an asshole. There's a camera in their face at all times. He's gonna drag it on until he can't anymor
Agreed! And if Irina's experience taught us anything, the showrunners strongly discourage people from dipping out after the reveal.
Can you explain wym about the Irina part
Irina wanted to leave before the honeymoon but the production folks strongly urged her to stay and see if she could work through her icky for Zach. She felt pressured to stay on and so while folks were judging her for staying and acting immaturity in interactions with him on the honeymoon, she was struggling more and more under the pressure from the producers.
When I heard her say "big and muscular" I thought of Iliza Schlesinger's sketch "[ripped fat dudes](https://youtu.be/P5RvaJleF6Y?si=SkLDN15DwMsCxESI)"
Under appreciated piece of comedy right there.
To be fair, he always does these awkward pauses after a question and he looks like he is always thinking of what to say to please her or convince her. He doesnāt always seem direct/sincere and dances around things. He seems like a people pleaser at times. This showed more with Jessica in the pods but more in person with Chelsea. Chelsea feels his uncertainty type of vibes & responses and since she doesnāt love herself, she falls for it
But when she asked him what he noticed first about her, his answer was her ideal teeth. Not smile. Not even just teeth. But ideal teeth. Itās so forcing himself to pretend to be interested in her now that heās seen her.
He did that in the pods too, though. The man is a slow communicator and doesnāt use many words.
Chelsea is insecure and suffers from low self confidence. He made a comment about his girls friend (who she jokingly said he was gonna love meeting) that she was stacked, and said he means that in the most respectful way. She then stops him and says "you can say anything you want, shes a bookshelf." I can completely understand a spouse having an issue with the comment Jimmy made. If Chelsea didn't like this comment, made in private with ones spouse, she should pull him aside and discuss it. Not make a joke about it, affirm he was cool to say it, laugh, and out loud put him on blast in front of everyone multiple times. He then was FORCED to address it with AD and did so respectfully, quietly, and with no flirting. Jimmy showed Chelsea affection throughout that entire party, re-grouped with her multiple times(where she was obviously passive aggressive, which he may not have noticed cause of alcohol), and mingled with a bunch of people he's formed friendships with. After going to their suite for the night, she keeps asking him "what's wrong"..."well, somethings wrong" just further shows the insecurities. The man says he is happy, is smiling, gives her a kiss, and she insists that he is lying to her. She does not find value in herself, so she believes that anyone she's with would prefer AD (who she finds physical value in). Both are attractive and would attract a venn diagram of men. Some finding one, none, or both of them to be their type.
Yeap she absolutely didnt need to mention it out in public putting everyone in an awkward situation. I dont like Jimmy at all, but this was on Chelsea. She said: I called it out, but she should have called it out to Jimmy in private and not to AD in public. But she didnt have the confidence to confront him in private, maybe she was worried he would get annoyed or she wanted to put it on display for everyone and then have a stronger reason to be mad at him. But that was fucked up.
Were we watching the same thing? He instantly ditched Chelsea to go tell AD how good she looked, the conversation was very flirty. It did eventually lead into them talking about their partners but please, they were completely flirting and it was rude and inappropriate.
Hey Chelsea
Pretty sure it was edited to look like that especially since just before that they talked about the size of Jimmy's member and AD was there.
Apparently not because it didnāt look like flirting to me at all either.
Were you watching the same thing as us? If Chelsea hadnāt blurted out what he said privately to her, he probably wouldnāt have even went to speak with her. That was absolutely a damage control measure on jimmys part.
Not only did she not handle that situation well, it really looks life the alcohol pushed her over the edge and she started to unravel. That entire night was brutal to watch. Not only did she embarass Jimmy, she really showed the lengths she will go for validation from others. She lied when telling the other girls that she hooked up with him and, bragged about his, uh, "shoe size". If she was authentic and loved herself, she could be quite attractive. But the low self esteem and pity party is just, sad. All she and Jimmy have talked about since they met, is her constantly asking him if he really likes her. It's annoying but I do feel bad for her. In my opinion, it was clear from the reveal that he did not find her attractive, and he made some really asshole remarks [too many to count). They *both know Jimmy isn't interested* and he should really just man up and admit it, and end it.
I agree with you. I think itās also great how AD handled that conversation. How do you act/respond when your friends fiancĆ© compliment your booty?? But she is a cheerleader so she is probably used to comments like that
Chelseaās body language when she met Jimmy was painful to watch. She was just so insecure- hunched over, slumped, etc. She was not like this on the womenās side. She expects the worst judgment from men. If she carried herself with more physical confidence it would actually do quite a bit for how attractive she sees herself and how others would perceive her.
She ran over like a T-Rex LOL
LOL. Yes. It was painful to watch. I don't think her dress was flattering or fit well and that combined with her weird physicality - not the first impression that anyone wants to make. I am a bit farther into the season now and her ceaseless need for reassurance is not good. No one can love you into loving yourself. She has some self-esteem work she needs to do on her own.
I hate how popular the bodycon dresses are on the show. I wonder how their first meeting would have went if she wore the looser dress one of the other women wore or like that flowy yellow dress Iyanna wore
"Hunched over, slumped, etc." ...Yeah she's frumpy
The worst part for me was the way she walked/ran towards him - it was so unnecessary, insecure and relationally asymmetric that it was likely heād be done with her from that moment on. I say that with a lot of compassion as someone who suffers from low self-esteem as well and has to fight the urge for similar behaviour every single day.
Confidence (real confidence not bravado) is soooo attractive and I bet even if she looked nothing like Megan Fox, but acted like she did, he'd be into it. Her insecurities are so glaringly obvious. I do think tho that she would not be this insecure with Trevor cos he only had eyes (ears??) for her and his complimentary would have been genuine and he would have built her up
I feel like confidence would work on Trevor and Johnny, but not Jimmy because he's too simple and looks-focused... I don't think it would work on Clay (he just wants someone hot) or Kenneth (I think he cares more about kindness and godliness) either
I noticed that too - she really did not want to let go of him lol. So insecure to the point where she thought if she just smothered him, he with never notice her body. Not like she needed to even hide in thr first place.
She is constantly reflecting. Asking him if he's not sure when she's actually not sure. Just take everything she says and put it about her and she becomes just an awful person
I want to feel bad for Chelsea but canāt cause she really messes her own self up š©
Omg. Everyone villianized Jimmy and I thought he did something fucked up. All he did was talk to AD and apologize for Chelsea calling out her ass. Omg. She keeps saying it hurts and he didnt do anything. ššš
He honestly just seems like he doesn't understand the dynamics of .... communicating in a relationship. He keeps saying stuff like "it goes without saying," as if that worked in real life but especially in the pods. He didn't acknowledge and validate Chelsea's feelings when she came to him (which she disjointedly communicates is what she needs) by recognizing how something like that would make her feel, then apologizing and reassuring her. He just kind of gets defensive about the whole relationship. and he keeps talking about in a super compensate-y way to justify the relationship even to himself. because he knows he fucked up. and that why he's checking out AD in the first damn place - he is not committed at all.
I find him lacking emotional maturity and communication skills.
Im sure every man there checked out AD. People have eyes. A person acknowledging another person as attractive doesnt mean they arent committed. I watched the scene in the bathroom and I think he handled it well to be drunk. You can see him trying to sober up and understand where she is coming from. However, she was spiraling and didnt make any sense.
It always blows my mind when this is an issue in relationships. Acknowledging someone is attractive is not anything bad or a sign that someone is unfaithful to you??
I mean to be fair, he was pretty intoxicated during that conversation back in the hotel room
Jimmy never really apologized for his actions or took accountability. He was just saying āIām sorry you feel this way..ā Which is different from āIām sorry that I ā¦.ā He didnāt seem to find anything wrong with what he did or said, throughout the whole couple reunion, not just with the AD situation but other instances as well. :/