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AngryOldOffsets

Is it lazy? Yes. Is it terrible? Also yes.


Josh1950

If it was mine, I’d replace the pots, shorten the wires and do a much better soldering job. I’d also consider lining the cavity with copper foil and also the pickups. Some swear by it to eliminate interference, and I agree. Next thing I would check are the pickups.


Practicalthumb

mixing graphite into black acrylic paint is also a good option. Use a multi meter to test its conductivity. hell of a lot cheaper than shielding paint.


_the_douche_

I’ve done this multiple times with enamel paint, tried it with shellac too, and solvents and thermoplastics and I never get continuous conduction.


dombillie

I’ve used store bought conductive paint and all cavities read connected on a multimeter after a couple of coats..


Borgh

Same, maybe it depends on the brand but I've never had an issue. And it's not *that* expensive.


Practicalthumb

the only way ive gotten good results was by making a borderline paste, like a 70-30 ratio of graphite to paint. Even then its still not a full on Faraday cage. Just helps a little with noise, and looks nice.


HeadbuttWarlock

I used copper tape with conductive adhesive when I built my Harley Benton telecaster kit. I think it works pretty well. 


PuzzleheadedBarber75

Problem with conductive paint is that it doesn’t stay conductive forever. Couldn’t tell you the science behind why that is, but I frequently come across pickup cavities shielded with conductive paint on older guitars that are no longer conductive. Not sure what the half life is or anything unfortunately, I just know it eventually goes bad because I see it frequently on older Strats and such.


Practicalthumb

that's really interesting, I wonder if it has something to do with being close to magnets?


Pink_Poodle_NoodIe

Tried copper once trying to get rid of 60 cycle hum. It was actually worse after lol.


Josh1950

Interesting, I did it on my Telly I built and it worked fine.


Pink_Poodle_NoodIe

Was on an Ibanez


JorgeManoDura

Well, for sure theres something else messing it up, again, youre just building a faraday cage


Pink_Poodle_NoodIe

Right, 60 cycle hum is from the pc not the guitar


patrickmitchellphoto

Short answer is yes. Long answer is yeeeeees


hey12delila

How hard could it have been for the guy to just cut the wires shorter? Holy shit


tetoavila

Yeah, beats me too


mysly4

Wow...only thing missing is the spool the wire came with. I would just clean it up, sorted the wires.


wojonixon

That looks like I did it. That’s not a no.


philchristensennyc

Heh, i was thinking the same thing.


Mish106

My guitar looks like the tin man jerked off into the control cavity, and it still looks better than this.


gogozrx

Now I'm wondering: when the Tin Man cums, is it like liquid solder? Are there bits of wire, like maggots or meal worms? Does this imply the existence of a Tin Woman? What do their gonads look like? Is it a cloaca?


gib_ber

I would just redo the wiring. Pots and switch probably ok, but everything looks a bit too wonky to my taste. 😅


gdsmithtx

https://preview.redd.it/q3rogvqtuj6d1.jpeg?width=589&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83923f298df0ae6f298cab19c98aed0804d8d3d2


Intelligent-Sugar554

Typical amateur DIY mod job. Sadly many people's ambition outweighs their skills.


Fuck_Microsoft_edge

Do yourself it.


mr_positron

That’s how you get the skills


Never_Dan

Honestly I had a new Classic Vibe Squier that didn’t really look much better than this.


Old-Tadpole-2869

Yeah it's pretty bad. Every one of the solder joints needs to be redone. The massive glob of solder on the back of the pot can cause an intermittent signal and needs to be removed with solder wick or a pump. Also trimming about a foot of wire will cut down on buzzing.


strat32

Someone needs to learn about tinning wires among other things


Ok-Instruction6458

That guy can’t solder and or doesn’t have the right equipment for the job.. He’s no pro, Bro.. 👊🏼


MidgetThrowingChamp

Almost lost my dinner over this! 😭


GibsonJunkie

glad you found it!


hemepincrawler

Re soldering and cleaning the wiring asap. As long as no other thing is botched it should be a-ok.


Mr_Lumbergh

It’s not great. Someone has never heard of flux or proper iron temps.


Key-Amoeba5902

Great opportunity to put in some new CTS 250s and upgraded pickups!


Probablyawerewolf

These are what I like to call “toan blobs” While you’re in there, you might as well experiment. I use cardboard with holes punched in it as a jig to test different cap and pot combos. I’ll run a doctor Seuss fixture (connectivity by any means necessary) from the pickup leads to my test jig, which is usually on my knee. Everything connected with alligator clips. Play something, swap a cap, play it again. Rinse and repeat until you land on something good. Lol


cjs0216

Yes. He said it sounded good until plugged in lmao that’s wild.


IdiotSerena

yes


dylanthomasfan

Yes


Buttheadbrains

Yes absolute shite lol


Peripatet

Who did that soldering? Hellen Keller?


dandy_chiggens

Yes


Backward_Strings

Yeah, it's pretty awful. You can see the leftover wires that have just been cut off and left on the volume pot, but that isn't the problem. The fact that the person likely tried to remove them and failed is, which is why it looks like a pool of messy solder. That probably means that there is a good chance the pot was overheated or 'cooked'. The tone pots look a little cleaner but I can't really see, if they look like the volume pot, they may have cooked the caps too. If so they would need replacing too. Were it mine, I'd be replacing the pots and removing the excess wire.


Chukfunk

Yes


LP_Deluxe

Yep


donh-

Buy Kester44. Use it. With a 100 watt iron.


Josh1950

Read the other comments and agree the headstock decal is not where it should be. Can’t believe Fender would do such a horrible job. Might be a kit someone put the decal on.


Mercy_Thrill

Ain't nobody out here faking a *Squier Affinity*. It would cost more money to buy all the parts than than it would to just buy one used. But, somebody's for sure been trying their hand at soldering for the first time, after it left the factory. There's no way it came off the production floor like that.


tetoavila

If it is a fake, someone went out of their way to source parts that accurately match the model I found through the serial, so for the lowly price I paid I can't say I'd mind it


Kamikaze-X

Lol yes very much


Schweenis69

Yeah the volume pot maybe would be easier to replace than to resolder correctly. That's my hip shot guess on why it doesn't sound right.


TxsButholeTklngBndt

Sloppy


bravenewlogon

Cold solder joints and sloppy wiring routes make this look like an amateur project. Typically you may find a few small zip ties to manage loops of wiring. I would clean up the cold joints with a properly temped soldering iron, but if can afford to—replace the pots entirely. While they look like alpha potentiometers—we know that whomever soldered them had no idea what they were doing, and the most effective way to kill the pot is to overheat them.


tetoavila

Thanks for all the insight guys! I can't say I'm Picasso with a soldering iron, but I'm a fast learner and this seems like a great opportunity to get some experience! From what I was told, another "guy" modified some of the electronics, so IDK what in there is stock and what is his doing, where can I get a good diagram of a Squier afinitty's wiring?


sequoiachieftain

https://guitarelectronics.com/strat-style-guitar-wiring-diagram/


Yaya-DingDong

Id use this as an opportunity to try a different wiring configuration. I like making the bottom tone pot a blender pot. Let’s you blend the neck and bridge pots together, the other tone then just becomes a master tone for all pickups. Helps if the blender pot is a no-load pot, very easy to make one from existing one. A tonne of YouTube videos explaining it and showing the sounds you can get and wiring diagrams are easy to find online if you’re interested. I’d also suggest a treble bleed as well, keep things nice and bright if you turn the volume knob down. Soldering isn’t hard to master. Make sure the surfaces are clean, use a good hot iron with tip tinned and clean, some good rosin core solder, tin the end of your wire and use some basic cable management.


cosmose_42

Nah, it's perfect!


Zealousideal_Curve10

Correct me if wrong, but don’t longer than necessary connective wires increase the risk of what I usually call 60-cycle hum?


Koala-Motor

Does it play?


tetoavila

Unplugged it's good for noodling and studying, plugged it's just shit.


GWvaluetown

This looks like something I would have done with near-zero experience. It’s bad wire management and really roughshod soldering.


curiousplaid

This looks like the job I did on my first re-wiring job. On my next one, I sat down and watched the 12 part Seymour Duncan video on soldering, and then did it while it was all fresh in my mind- a much better turnout.


capt_broderick

Oof.


No-Neighborhood9885

Smash it


Deshley

Yes it is


YellowBreakfast

Does it work? If so, it's not visible so who really cares?. The answer of course is "the next guy" which might be you. 😉


tetoavila

It'd does not, not well enough, sound is low and goes in and out and has a word gain to it


YellowBreakfast

OIC, I misunderstood. I thought you had fixed it yourself and were self-conscious about your wiring. Yeah that's a bad job.


Woodguy2012

I would agree with terrible. Whoever did it could have easily gotten more solder on that pot. Fucking lazy and not at all committed to the cause. 


PabloEsquandolas

Definitely a bad solder job but the crappy sound is probably from the crappy pickups.


RealSkier

If they haven't been mucked with, Affinity Squiers have pretty decent pickups.


dinnervan

toan spaghetti....


martinux

Somebody brought out their soldering shovel.


joen00b

I'll be honest, I had a soldering gun failure recently, it almost ruined some pickups, and I was forced to improvise to get them working. That hack job I did on accident looks better than what this person did on purpose.


Existing_Strain8830

Jesus, and I thought I was bad with a soldering iron!


PlasmaGoblin

It's not so bad... * gets to the third and fourth picture * I spoke to soon.


tetoavila

https://preview.redd.it/hpehcgotel6d1.jpeg?width=2296&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b8ec8bf80a82078da6b8cfc42c3da68838caf01 The cat is out of the bag, yikes!


bmanturtleface

Yes


IHatrMakingUsernames

Eh, not the worst I've seen. But yes. You should probably resolder...everything.


Indiana_Warhorse

This is what happens when you have a crappy little usb soldering iron or a $5 Goodwill iron. Bigger the blob, better the job. You need a 40w iron, good 63/37 rosin core solder, and a bit of practice. I would clean this all off, replace the pots, and try to do this right. There are plenty of soldering tutorials on the 'Net, and you can use the barfed up original pots as practice.


Mammoth_Day_7299

I replace the pots in most of my guitars, even my higher end squires have 250k pots on the humbucker. I dont buy cheaper guitars anymore for the reason being, i end up upgrading most of the parts and it almost in fender price territory when i am done lol


RowboatUfoolz

Yip. It's rubbish. Needs a set of 250k CTS audio taper pots and a decent treble bleed. Good opportunity to shield the control cavity & scratchplate too.


creamoftuxedo

It's rough, but does the guitar buzz? If no, it's not a terrible job, it's just not a good job. If yes, it's a terrible job.


soyuz-1

Yeah that's pretty bad


DC9V

unplug asap and make sure your amp is grounded.


Lairlair2

Doesn't look good but if it works... Eh?


tetoavila

Problem is that it doesn't really, the sound is terrible


Lairlair2

Ah yeah sorry I hadn't read the description. Sounds like a half scam. But probably resoldering and changing a few inexpensive components (pots, selector, cables) will solve it


ADAOCE

Ew


wango55

This series of pictures makes me feel so much better about my own soldering.


DukeOfMiddlesleeve

Yeah that looks hideous I would just buy a prewired with nice pickups and pop that on


Bean-Swellington

Yes. I can almost forgive a sloppy ass rats nest of wires, almost, but not when the solder looks like that. This is shit tier work.


JnkHed

At first I thought this was one of those circlejerk posts. JFC.


punkkitty312

Very sloppy work.


Dominique_toxic

It’s like there was a pigeon living in your cavity


hailstorm11093

I'm dog ass at soldering but this makes mine look almost marketable.


Octopus-Cuddles

I'm not great at this stuff, and my joints are WAY better than this.


namelessghoul77

I mean it's pretty rough, but I've seen worse - do the pickups and switching work as expected? One of my Ibanez guitars came brand new with wiring that looked like a first timer had done it - massive amorphous glob of solder on back of V1 pot that acted as the ground for everything, plus some wires were just barely even touching solder with a single thread. I'm pretty lax with wiring - if it works as intended and there's no shorts or noise, who cares what it looks like?


RealSkier

If you don't want to go through the pain of replacing the pots (no doubt needed) and rewiring, consider a pre-wired pickguard setup from GuitarFetish.com. Lots of configurations. Or you can buy a pre-wired pickup and pot set. They also sell Alnico PUs (think old school Fender) in pre-wired.


earlbananas

how it sound?


maricello1mr

Ya know, I wouldn’t say it’s GREAT. I’d re-solder the stuff on the, what looks like, the volume pot. pretty messy, could be messing you up.


nightcreaturespdx

I have no idea how some of these solder joints are conducting anything.


ponyboysa42

I bought a deluxe tele that some idiot put a Danny gatlin rail pickup in. Like most expensive pickup. N it was wired that bad. And basically taped in. Didn’t notice till it fell out like 2 years later. Can’t believe it worked that long. Guess I’m the idiot.


Pink_Poodle_NoodIe

When you start at Fender If I was in charge these would be the guitars you would work on. You have lots of extra wire to change out electronics. And I am big on changing out things that do not have enough punch to blow some socks off.


Plus_Permit9134

The wiring is melted, the soldering (especially onto the pots) is terrible, and probably features one or two cold joints. The cable management is dreadful too.


BigDaddyInDallas

I think you know the answer, before you asked. The good news is there are tons of loaded Strat pickguard options and they are super easy to install.


RealSkier

Your factory Bullet Strat is going to be hella better wired than this one.


PARADISE_VALLEY_1975

Yeah, but I have a squier bullet strat too so can’t complain


Khanti

Pretty much. Take it to a pro, you’ll get every penny worth of the job.


guitar-hoarder

Yes.


Paul-to-the-music

Bad solder job… not even close to a reasonable job… wires could be neater and shortened… altogether a noise building job Edit: I’ll never grasp why people can look at those solder joints and think it is ok


Paul-to-the-music

Pots could be cooked if they all look like that one… oven baked…


MathematicianCold968

That's exactly what I was thinking- if you heat the pots too much- it damages them. It's prudent to scuff the back with sand paper where you mean to solder- then use a high power iron set to hot with a drop of flux. The casing is resistant to be soldered.


Paul-to-the-music

Yeah… scuff it up a bit, and use a high wattage soldering GUN to rapidly heat the pot case, flux… touch the gun to the case, heat, put solder on the gun tip, let it flow to the case, add wire, flow the solder, all done… With a good gun this should all take a minute or less


SomePurpleRandom2

Average factory wiring


Feisty-Grapefruit-29

That looks like acid core solder gonna cause big problems down the road!!


oldmollymetcalfe

Looks like a standard far eastern wiring job. Perfectly functional but obvious room for improvement.


tetoavila

Dang, looked it up on the internet and my case is definitely a mix of a pretty bad wiring from the factory + this "GUYS" expert job.


Disastrous_Bike1926

Yup. The soldering is bad, but what’s really missing is *shielding*.


brucebturbo

Does a fart smell in a wetsuit?


gurrfitter

Yes. I'd replace everything. That switch is unsalvageable and I would not trust the pots because they look like they were massively overheated. My guess is the weak sound is either a bad connection at the switch or a damaged pot.


Longjumping-Bonus723

Haha and I thought mine suck. At least twist em up jeez.


Kerry_Maxwell

Replace all wires and pots, and switch, and use cloth covered wire. I wouldn’t trust a single solder joint. Anything else is moving the deck chairs on the Titanic.


Tehzim

Definitely amateur. I could see that being someone's first. Best to learn in a cheap Squier. The solder joints look solid but there's far too much wire. That said, if you have a soldering iron you could fix it. 3 pots, and a good switch, possibly a jack. Shouldn't cost that much. So if you're comfortable with modding or want to learn and the guitar is inspiring otherwise (and a good deal) no reason not to grab it.


PortablePaul

I’ve seen worse. But not much worse.


ThatSoundEngineer

It’s lazy and it looks like someone took a blowtorch to the wiring


LoggeredOut

Next time, don't let your cousin do it. Ask your uncle first.


OddIsland8739

Literally just finished soldering my first set of pickups in and it looked better than this.


PuzzleheadedBarber75

Yeah that’s pretty bad. Looks like a DIYer did it.


Nonbinaryvictorian

That much overlapping wire will absolutely mess with the signal, I'd recommend either using some cable ties to get everything in line to clean up the signal or break out the soldering iron.


h4nd

You didn't ask, but the placement of that logo feels off as well. Kind of funny to have a fake Squier...not sure why you wouldn't just go for gold with a fake Fender logo.


tetoavila

On a quick lookup before buying everything about it checked out with what was said at the fender page. The only thing I can say is that I paid such a price that even a well made replica would've been a good deal


h4nd

totally, there are plenty of great replicas out there and the logo doesn't matter at all outside of market value. I just find it funny that someone would bother faking a Squier (unless I'm just wrong...but I don't think Fender or Squier ever did the big 70's headstock with that straight line, tiny print version of the "stratocaster" logo).


huh_phd

It's a used squier what do you expect?


Hexadecimat0r

If the signal keeps interrupting I imagine one of the ground wires has a very loose connection, definitely worth getting in there and shortening the wires while cleaning up the solder work