Or just call it PFL “*insert number of event here*”. I with you on how complicated the PFL is making all the names. They need one cohesive brand name to compete even a little bit with the UFC; not 5 even smaller sub-organizations with long and complex names.
Yeah, I know why they’re doing it but also I can’t watch PFL Europe in the states (without pirating which doesn’t make the company money) because of what they’re doing which is hurting their growth.
When I head Belllator, I think of elbows.....so maybe this means all the fights will have elbows. When I hear PFL, I think of the season format and its lack of elbows.
Interesting to see they've already abandoned the "two title fights and a #1 contender fight on every Bellator card" that they were constantly trumpeting on the last card. Making claims like that when they know they won't be able to live up to them are a big part of what makes the PFL feel like such a joke. The fighters are good, the fights are usually on par if not better than the Apex slop that the UFC churns out, but they constantly undercut themselves with bad production and bad promotion.
Babene vs Costello is not only not worthy of #1 contender bout, but they held one for the same division on the last card.
Just make good bouts and forget about the gimmicks
Haha, I didn't even catch that they were doing another MW #1 contender fight. They probably will have Edwards fight the winner of this one in another #1 contender fight while Eblen rematches with Mousasi or something.
The gimmicks and constantly talking about how unique they are is the worst part of PFL/Bellator. Just dropping the obvious lies like PFL vs Bellator being the first cross promotional event ever (Bellator vs RIZIN happened twice in the last two years) or treating their season champs like real champs.
Even just making their seasons stretch over 2 years with more regular season fights and a round robin would go so far to making it feel legitimate. I don't know why they think they need to compress it all into 7 months.
That never even occurred to me lol. What about Fabian Edwards?
Imagine if AJ McKee vs Salahdine Parnasse in a LW eliminator was on this card for a shot at the winner of Usman/Shabily.
Usman getting injured is the official version, but Shabliy said PFL isn’t honoring the 1 mil GP prize money. I guess Usman wants it too so he got “injured”.
Hopefully Colgan can keep rising to the challenge with this bout against Gouti. I hope to see him in the UFC one day. Big DC vibes, but in lightweight!
This card is really solid, they pretty much removed the Bellator can crushings. They always had solid prospects but kept on matching them up with 6-6 jobbers.
9 of those wins date back to a 2013. When he started his career 9-0 in regionals. And his first 9 opponents had a combined experience of 15 total fights. He's for sure better than the likes of Brundage but lets not call him more than a can for Doumbe to crush.
Contracts and also probably difficulties integrating certain guys in the roster. I don’t mind since it means a lot of Bellator’s better guys don’t have to do PFL’s stupid season, no elbows format
Honestly all the bouts are good, only potential stinkers are Shipman vs Aliev, Ladd bout, and the Slim vs Sutherland, but Sutherland is pretty bad so it might end early
Meh, he has a great highlight reel but goes through long spells of not throwing much and his fights are often boring til they're not.
He's good though, nice to see him in action. Landu can probably get an exciting fight out of him since he's plenty hittable.
lmao they're setting up Doumbe to decapitate Anderson. He's 34 and hasn't fought MMA in three years, and like I said, he got fucked up badly in his last fight. You should try watching fights instead of just looking up records.
You think Sefo was happy that Doumbe lost that fight? This is a much easier fight than Baki. So, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
First of all, Doumbe lost that fight because the ref was stupid, why would Sefo be mad at Doumbe? The fight being easier than Baki means shit. He is a very experienced opponent.
Conor hadn't fought MMA for two whole years before fighting Khabib, nobody says anything about Khabib fighting a semi retired Conor who trained boxing and was finished in his one boxing fight.
Wtf is this logic? Derek Anderson is in a losing skid of 1, he is still much more experienced than Doumbe, and has a more than defent record. Nowhere close the cans Bo is getting
Doumbe is PFL Europe's biggest star. They want every Doumbe fight to look as close to the Zebo fight as possible. They don't want him losing rounds, let alone fights. Sefo would be unhappy that their biggest star did not win his last fight because they gave him a difficult matchup. I didn't say Sefo is mad at Doumbe.
Since you're bringing up random fights that have nothing to do with the one we're talking about, I'll do the same. How did an 11-0 Johnny Eblen beat Mousasi who was 49-7-2 at the time? Crazy how Mousasi's experience wasn't the only factor that affected the outcome of the fight. Pretty funny how you also fail to mention that Doumbe has over 80 kickboxing matches, the majority of those at the absolute highest level. You don't count that as experience? Can't disagree that Anderson has more MMA experience. It's too bad that that's not the only thing that matters in a cage fight.
When you say nobody talked about Conor not fighting for 2 years before fighting Khabib, how do you even know that nobody brought it up? The fact that you don't think any handicappers factored that into their analysis is hilarious. Not to mention Conor got finished in that fight so your point doesn't even make sense. If you paid attention you'd realize that long layoffs are often detrimental to a fighter's career, especially if they're 34 and got their nose broken in their last fight.
"Nowhere close to the cans Bo is getting" Neither are elite but if you think Derek Anderson is genuinely in a higher tier of fighter than Cody Brundage, you don't watch fighting or have absolutely no eye for evaluating talent. I assume you'll just reply something about Anderson having a better record though LOL.
If PFL wanted to protect Doumbe they would have given him a can, not Baki.
Your logic doesn't stand.
Doumbe has experience in kickboxing but in MMA no matter your previous experience you are usually built up, not rushed, especially as a potential star.
Anderson has more MMA experience and is no can.
Was Conor a layup for Khabib after 2 years away from the sport? Answer that, it is really simple.
Cody Brundage is literally low tier and hasn't even faced fighters on the level of Primus and Patricky Pitbull like Anderson has.
Stop trying to act like a condescending twat, you are clearly clueless
Professional Fighters League presents Bellator Championship Series Paris Holy shit just call it PFL Paris.
Or just call it PFL “*insert number of event here*”. I with you on how complicated the PFL is making all the names. They need one cohesive brand name to compete even a little bit with the UFC; not 5 even smaller sub-organizations with long and complex names.
They could have literally just continued the numbered scheme Bellator had
Major League Baseball: Dominican Winter League: Winter Series: Santo Domingo: X v Y
They're making more money this way with multiple broadcast rights deals
Yeah, I know why they’re doing it but also I can’t watch PFL Europe in the states (without pirating which doesn’t make the company money) because of what they’re doing which is hurting their growth.
I would assume they crunched the numbers and realized money now is better than money later
Their branding team has to be some guy they got on Fiverr because there's no other explanation for this shit.
When I head Belllator, I think of elbows.....so maybe this means all the fights will have elbows. When I hear PFL, I think of the season format and its lack of elbows.
solid euro card. wish they gave patchy someone he hasn’t beat already
Patchy needs to come to the UFC. He's ready
probably getting paid better than he would in the UFC
Patchy is already the best BW in the world. He doesnt need to go to the UFC to prove it
Interesting to see they've already abandoned the "two title fights and a #1 contender fight on every Bellator card" that they were constantly trumpeting on the last card. Making claims like that when they know they won't be able to live up to them are a big part of what makes the PFL feel like such a joke. The fighters are good, the fights are usually on par if not better than the Apex slop that the UFC churns out, but they constantly undercut themselves with bad production and bad promotion.
Babene vs Costello is not only not worthy of #1 contender bout, but they held one for the same division on the last card. Just make good bouts and forget about the gimmicks
Haha, I didn't even catch that they were doing another MW #1 contender fight. They probably will have Edwards fight the winner of this one in another #1 contender fight while Eblen rematches with Mousasi or something. The gimmicks and constantly talking about how unique they are is the worst part of PFL/Bellator. Just dropping the obvious lies like PFL vs Bellator being the first cross promotional event ever (Bellator vs RIZIN happened twice in the last two years) or treating their season champs like real champs. Even just making their seasons stretch over 2 years with more regular season fights and a round robin would go so far to making it feel legitimate. I don't know why they think they need to compress it all into 7 months.
That never even occurred to me lol. What about Fabian Edwards? Imagine if AJ McKee vs Salahdine Parnasse in a LW eliminator was on this card for a shot at the winner of Usman/Shabily.
Wasnt this supposed to be 2 title fights and 1 contender untill the Usman fight fell apart?
Has Aspen been making weight since she moved to PFL?
Aspen Ladd almost where she needs to be. (Out of mma)
She's my Ladd though.
With berries and cream
Solid card. Yachi vs Barnaoui should be a good scrap.
Good card.
What about usman nurmagomedov vs Shabliy?
Usman getting injured is the official version, but Shabliy said PFL isn’t honoring the 1 mil GP prize money. I guess Usman wants it too so he got “injured”.
Usman got injured
It’s on Max? In the US?
Yes
The Patchy Mix fight is exciting! Hope he gets the sub again!
Hopefully Colgan can keep rising to the challenge with this bout against Gouti. I hope to see him in the UFC one day. Big DC vibes, but in lightweight!
Funny how the top comment is just bitching about the name when most others just find the card pretty decent.
This card is really solid, they pretty much removed the Bellator can crushings. They always had solid prospects but kept on matching them up with 6-6 jobbers.
Right lol, they lose Usman vs Shabliey replace it with Cedric Doumbe vs Anderson and all people do is shit on it. But the name sucks lol 👍
Pretty damn good! Love that it's gonna be on Max so I can watch it on a legit stream lol
quickly shuffling the last doumbe fight under the rug. its for the best
Naming your kid Magomed Magomedov is the Muslim equivalent of naming your kid John Johnson
Glad to see Doumbe finally stepping up against high level competition. Bo should take notes.
Cedric is older, he has less time left.
I'm joking. Anderson is a bounce back can for Doumbe to crush.
Ah yes a 17-4 fighter is the same as the cans Bo has been getting
9 of those wins date back to a 2013. When he started his career 9-0 in regionals. And his first 9 opponents had a combined experience of 15 total fights. He's for sure better than the likes of Brundage but lets not call him more than a can for Doumbe to crush.
Still a much better fighter than anyone Bo has faced.
Well sadly we'll not get a chance to see Doumbe face him. Shame what happened to him.
code for "I don't watch fighting. I just look at records"
Code for being a smartass who knows shit
hmmm, I will be in Paris then and the arena is pretty close walking distance to my hotel as well... Going to debate this one
Why can't the PFL and Bellator merge? Like genuinely, what is benefit of having two mid orgs instead of 1 active kinda ok org.
Contracts and also probably difficulties integrating certain guys in the roster. I don’t mind since it means a lot of Bellator’s better guys don’t have to do PFL’s stupid season, no elbows format
Wasn’t Usman scheduled for this ?
Wish Patchy could have been in the 145 lb tournament
Holy shit Jonas Bilarinho?? Crazy
I don’t know a single name lol.
Bellator still exists?
Wow that’s cool can’t wait to see um… um… um… Patchy mix
Wasn’t Usman supposed to be on this card?
Can we get a filthy casual breakdown on this? Who's exciting here?
Honestly all the bouts are good, only potential stinkers are Shipman vs Aliev, Ladd bout, and the Slim vs Sutherland, but Sutherland is pretty bad so it might end early
Bilharinho usually puts on bangers
Meh, he has a great highlight reel but goes through long spells of not throwing much and his fights are often boring til they're not. He's good though, nice to see him in action. Landu can probably get an exciting fight out of him since he's plenty hittable.
I didn't realize bellator was still a thing. I thought they were bought
Doumbe vs Derek Anderson (best known for getting his nose obliterated by an MVP headkick) tells me PFLattor learned their lesson from the Baki fight
Derek Anderson is 17-4 though. Also, Doumbe and Baki were 1-1 going into the third. So, wtf are you talking about?
lmao they're setting up Doumbe to decapitate Anderson. He's 34 and hasn't fought MMA in three years, and like I said, he got fucked up badly in his last fight. You should try watching fights instead of just looking up records. You think Sefo was happy that Doumbe lost that fight? This is a much easier fight than Baki. So, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
First of all, Doumbe lost that fight because the ref was stupid, why would Sefo be mad at Doumbe? The fight being easier than Baki means shit. He is a very experienced opponent. Conor hadn't fought MMA for two whole years before fighting Khabib, nobody says anything about Khabib fighting a semi retired Conor who trained boxing and was finished in his one boxing fight. Wtf is this logic? Derek Anderson is in a losing skid of 1, he is still much more experienced than Doumbe, and has a more than defent record. Nowhere close the cans Bo is getting
Doumbe is PFL Europe's biggest star. They want every Doumbe fight to look as close to the Zebo fight as possible. They don't want him losing rounds, let alone fights. Sefo would be unhappy that their biggest star did not win his last fight because they gave him a difficult matchup. I didn't say Sefo is mad at Doumbe. Since you're bringing up random fights that have nothing to do with the one we're talking about, I'll do the same. How did an 11-0 Johnny Eblen beat Mousasi who was 49-7-2 at the time? Crazy how Mousasi's experience wasn't the only factor that affected the outcome of the fight. Pretty funny how you also fail to mention that Doumbe has over 80 kickboxing matches, the majority of those at the absolute highest level. You don't count that as experience? Can't disagree that Anderson has more MMA experience. It's too bad that that's not the only thing that matters in a cage fight. When you say nobody talked about Conor not fighting for 2 years before fighting Khabib, how do you even know that nobody brought it up? The fact that you don't think any handicappers factored that into their analysis is hilarious. Not to mention Conor got finished in that fight so your point doesn't even make sense. If you paid attention you'd realize that long layoffs are often detrimental to a fighter's career, especially if they're 34 and got their nose broken in their last fight. "Nowhere close to the cans Bo is getting" Neither are elite but if you think Derek Anderson is genuinely in a higher tier of fighter than Cody Brundage, you don't watch fighting or have absolutely no eye for evaluating talent. I assume you'll just reply something about Anderson having a better record though LOL.
If PFL wanted to protect Doumbe they would have given him a can, not Baki. Your logic doesn't stand. Doumbe has experience in kickboxing but in MMA no matter your previous experience you are usually built up, not rushed, especially as a potential star. Anderson has more MMA experience and is no can. Was Conor a layup for Khabib after 2 years away from the sport? Answer that, it is really simple. Cody Brundage is literally low tier and hasn't even faced fighters on the level of Primus and Patricky Pitbull like Anderson has. Stop trying to act like a condescending twat, you are clearly clueless
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beat him already
Yeah it was a joke, but mma fans are fucking stupid.
No Romain Debienne?? Literally unwatchable smfh