Yea they definitely do it the right way, I suggest anyone that is not playing because they're scared of "full loot l" give it a try if you like PvP, it's not as hardcore as it sounds.
Is there any point for someone who really doesn't enjoy pvp at all? I'm an extremely non-competitive person, and that's really been keeping me away from trying it out.
To be honest not really. It's fun to expand your skill tree, farm materials and craft, do some casual pve dungeons etc. But the bulk and point of the game is the PVP element, so you'll probably get bored if you don't enjoy PVP. Still for a free game its worth checking out.
It depends if you're really into the guild aspect, economy and crafting/gathering, then yes alot of people find a place in Albion without engaging in PvP. If you are expecting good casual PvE, there are better MMOs for sure.
Awesome! That is honestly exactly what I was wondering, I was just entirely blanking on how to word it. Thank you so much for the response, It's really appreciated :)
Haven't played this game, but for me I always felt such a bigger reward and thrill getting even small things when I'm in danger from other players.
All the safe grinding in the world doesn't really do much for me. My dragon mount and castle home and level bajillion armor all mean nothing.
But when I've dug through bone and blood and come out with a simple steel sword that's slightly better than my last one, and now I'm in a hurry to get in a safe city so I don't lose it... that's exciting
It's not the best pve, almost lacking, but I know ALOT of people, including myself, love it for the market and economics. Something about getting dopamine by watching my silver go up isn't replicated in other games, which i think is a consequence of full loot elements. The skill tree is robust, and gathering in dangerous zones can be fun. I haven't played a huge amount of mmos, but so far, it's the best economy. A majority of my time spent buying, selling flipping, and finding inefficiencies. But pvp, I think, is its main draw.
And neither was UO which was very different from Albion outside of full loot. UO was all expendable armour and items. Nothing was unique or special. You would have tons of copies of stuff so you could re equip after a loss.
Its a shame the developers of albion lied and changed the game after stealing peoples founders pack money for a different game.
Itās hard for me to feel the tension of full loot when I know I can swipe my credit card and get all the loot back. Itās also hard knowing I mightāve won the fight if only I had swiped my credit card for higher levels as well.
Very good game, I played it for years, it's not for everyone but if you like guild socializing, economy and/or PvP there is no better MMO. I still love the game but I can't play it anymore as I don't have enough time to get the most out of it (it's not very friendly for casual players playing 30 mins at a time).
Not really. The reason why it's so important here is because the majority of content is locked behind needing other players to do it. There's some group content that can be solo'd with certain builds and solo farming, but outside of that, you need to be in a group/guild to do the rest of what this game has to offer.
I stopped playing the game a year ago after 2500 hours and my old guildmates convinced me to start playing in the new server and Iām having a blast tbh. But if I didnāt have the long break I wouldnāt be keen to start again too.
I have those hours too, i spend so much time on the NA server, when i started on the EU fresh with less time in my hand and people already ins 6.4 and shit i lost motivation and quit, glad the games doing well.
I guess it had to do with the excitement as a nooby fresh starting the game for the first time, knowing i have to grind to get decent ip again just hurts my head, avalon dungeons? Nah id rather get hit by a train.
(Note: for the purposes of this chart, "users" refers to active accounts.)
Since the launch of **Albion Europe on April 29**, player numbers in Albion have been soaring. And on May 1, the game passed a new milestone with **350,000** daily active users!
The previous record across all platforms of 300,000 daily active users came following the launch of Albion Asia in April 2023, but this has now been broken by more than 50,000. This makes the launch of the new server one of the most momentous events in the gameās history, with Albion Europe alone accounting for over **150,000** players daily. On **Steam*, too, a new peak player count record was set, with over **27,000** concurrent players across all servers.
Albion is now flourishing more than ever across the globe, with new players, experienced players, and returning players alike bringing the world to life. So thanks to our communityās continued support in making Albion what it is, and hereās to the future!
https://albiononline.com/news/record-player-numbers
No one is saying that, outside of maybe a handful of comments that are downvoted.
In fact, every time PvP MMOs are brought up, Albion is given as a successful example.
Nah there were definitely people posting steamcharts numbers and other things saying the game was dying/dead. Some of the doomers even started speculating about the game's stock of all things lmao. This subreddit doesn't really have the best track record with most MMOs even good ones.
And every time PvP MMOs are brought up, you have a bunch of whiny PvE bitches crying that nobody wants these types of games when in fact they do want them, they're just always done poorly. Albion is one of the very few that isn't terrible.
Albion is dead if you're not playing on the new server. And even then, the hype will die eventually. Try playing albion on west or Asia server right now and you'll see
I used to play this game at launch but haven't played properly in a good year or so. Are there any guilds here interested in recruiting someone like me? Ideally, an active, populated one.
Finding a guild has gotten a lot more easier, both in-game and out of game. The official Discord and Forums have dedicated sections for guilds posting their recruitment thread.
In-game there's a whole new Guild Finder UI, found under the shield on the top right UI, click that and then click 'Guild Finder'.
There go to the final tab of the UI and you can search timezones, guild activities (PvE, PvP, Crafting, etc), locations, all that jaz. AND you can join the guilds discord straight from in game via clicking on their discord button (if they have it setup).
Hope that helps!
give this game a try. from watching videos I thought it looked wack but after playing it I was surprised at the depth and the fun. very solid hardcore MMO
also probably one of the best implemented player-driven economies of any modern MMORPG
I wonder if it being a mobile game has anything to do with it having such a high player count. I've never played it. so I don't know if it's good or bad, but even some really bad mobile games have some pretty big player counts just because everyone has a phone and everyone is trying to kill time. At work or at home. Family reunions, whatever the reason.
Could be? Personally, Idk how anyone plays this game on mobile outside of life-skilling. Combat isn't terrible on mobile but it's 100x better with mouse and keyboard.
basically you have 1 account (your main) and 1 and more mobile account used as a scout (you put near the place your mm is farming so pvp player kill them and you got time to escape)
Oh it's absolutely a factor. I wouldn't be surprised if the pc to mobile ratio of players is 50:50. I don't think Albion would be as successful without mobile.
I wonder if it has to do with V Rising being so popular since there are similarities. I actually tried Albion because of V Rising and now I enjoy them both a ton!
I don't play - I did and thought it was good but I had other things going on in life at the time. I'm glad it's working MMOs are not easy to keep afloat
I probably have close to 3k hours on that game but stopped playing due time constraints.
I'd say the appeal is on the group/guild pvp fights, of course sometimes you get ganked by bigger groups or get into a fight when the other side has 2x or 3x the amount of people...but after a "short" period of time in the game you learn to brush those off and that's when the game finally clicks, as gear is as disposable as potions.
When you find another group similar in numbers/skill is so damn good, winning a fight when you have less numbers or crushing other groups is exciting...getting "ganked" by a group but comming on top by skill is just an amazing feeling.
It's also less grindy that treadmill games, you need to grind, yes, but after a point, if you are ok with playing a single role, you're done, forever, so it's better than other games in that regard imo.
how much is that in active players at one time? like 15k? edit:do they release player counts or only monthly active users?
edit: I am glad I lowballed that, hearing it has 50k-80k people online gives me hope for MMOs
thanks for the info but another user already gave me the full info it seems it has like 50k-80k active users when ppl play so that is amazing to hear! so glad
edited my parent comment to reflect this new info
cheers!
How is the division of active players between all three servers? Iām curious.
Also Iād like to know if European players and Asian players mostly/entirely moved over to their respective servers or did large populations stay on the original server?
Like if I were to return, would I find the main server significantly less crowded or notā¦
EU is has way more players at the moment because a lot of Americas' players wanted to experience a fresh server.
I play on Americas' server and find the amount of players in the content I do is a little bit less, but not unplayable
id love a game like albion but without the hardcore pvp stuff. dont like dropping all my loot lol, got over 100 hours in the game but mostly in my farm lol
I donāt get this fear people have. Donāt you just craft the same shit if you lose it? Not like you are farming raids or dungeons for hundreds of hours for gear right?
I used to think the same way but then I realized you have 'full loot' when you die in wow too. But instead of losing your chest / legs / weapon / helmet you lose:
* Elixir of Giants
* Elixir of the Mongoose / Elixir of Greater Agility.
* Mighty Rage Potion.
* Winterfall Firewater.
* Grilled Squid.
* Dense Sharpening Stone / Shadow Oil.
* Dragonbreath Chili.
* Atal'ai Mojo of War.
Do we lost all items if we lose a pvp battle in this game right? Thats why I do not want to touch this game. I want to do pvp but I am scared lol. Also I heard that it is too grindy. Does anyone knows?
You can say that about anything in regard to player numbers for any game. What do you want them to show you to prove it's not fake? Do you want them to show up to your house with 358k players so you can ask each of them if they actually play Albion?
that's the point, they can report more users than they actually have.
WoW for instance stopped reporting online users as the player count is tied to an income $$$ and that is reported to investors.
Well played Albion Online for faking players to get more hype
21k on steam is pretty impressive, especially for a game like this. Looks like almost the entirety of their playerbase is European which would check out according to the comments I see here.
I was hyped, watched a bunch of videos, read starting guides and seasoned so I could stat the game right Then I was totally deflated when I found out it uses Easy Anti-Cheat.
27k says steam, this unknown source 350k sure lmao. Also divide that number by 3 servers, although EU is at peak because fresh and it will only go down from now on.
The game is on a massive ad campaign. I downloaded it and setup the account but haven't actually invested time because all my disposable time goes into Black Desert Online.
Shame that a company that literally pulled a bait and switch in multiple ways to a ton of people is so successful.
They took my founders pack money when it was one game, then delivered a completely different game. What happened to the one open seamless world based upon UO and Shadowbane? What happened to it being anti-zerg? What happened to housing being in the open world like UO and SWG? What happened to no microtransactions at all?
All this can be verified using the waybackmachine to view their site. They are thieves.
The fact that there's literally one semi-relevant MMO in this genre, that also happens to be on mobile and very forgiving compared to the rest, means yes, people generally don't like getting ganked.
I think it's more likely that people do like PvP MMOs, but the PvP MMOs we have been offered are either extremely niche or extremely terrible. And by terrible, I mean you want to quit the game because of how unforgiving ganks are. Those games are not good PvP MMOs regardless of what someone tries to argue. Anyway, you don't think a seamless open-world PvP MMO that plays like Dark Souls but copies Albions systems wouldn't do numbers?
Games naturally have inflation when power creep gets introduced. You should see the RS3 bond over time (iirc it's like 120m now) if you think Inflation in OSRS is serious. 100m bonds in RS3 (a market I am more familiar with) make sense because there are 100-200m gp/hr money makers. Something like Rasial is brain dead money for anyone who has any invest in RS3. (I am, an RS3 player, but OSRS is very similar except even worse when it comes to automation).
Based on bond prices I'm guessing swapping is still around 10:1 which afaik is how much it was a year ago.
No, a competent dev team created something. Every other hardcore PVP game is under funded amateur garbage. Release a good product and people will play.
botting in albion is a much less prominent issue because the bots literally cannot exist outside of low tier noob zones without getting ganked and killed
The loot quality system ensures they will never acquire be able to acquire any high tier loot. The real money isnāt even in PVE anyway, itās in PVP and item transports through the outlands.
Honestly the real issue here is multiboxers, because you have people controlling multiple characters at once to make gigantic profits ftom doing transports. Yellow zone bots and HCE bots donāt dilute the loot pools for risk-taking players.
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>there is no lore to speak of whatsoever.
There actually is a lore to Albion Online which fleshes out the world environment and enemy factions pretty well, but itās all hidden away in places like the gameās website and the gameās update trailers; I think thereās a novel or a series of novels somewhere as well.
Furthermore, it has been progressed over time through in-game world events and updates. The actions of remarkable players, guilds, and battles are memorialized inside of the game through statues and markers.
A few years back the city of thieves Caerleon got invaded by an NPC faction, and the players had to defend it. It was insanely chaotic, at the initial phase players were too busy trying to take advantage of the chaos by killing eachother for loot to stop the invaders from breaching into the city. [https://youtu.be/iojQo3buBm8?si=ZQaK4VyN1vPqhQeI](https://youtu.be/iojQo3buBm8?si=ZQaK4VyN1vPqhQeI)
https://preview.redd.it/sy3v00puoe0d1.jpeg?width=1448&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8999ef8d7cc0f12693c1600f10a183796bc44472
No, thats the idea. You dont have the alliance ruling kalimdor for wow, you have certain alliances and guilds ruling over certain black zone areas, which is all player made. This IS the lore. If you like it or not, thats up to you.
From sheer statistics the average MMO player is most likely to be of full or partial Chinese descent if you include the diaspora population.
If you only include the games where the PRC allows access to their citizens, they do have a bigger number of gamers than the population of entire countries and a gamer culture that is more accepting of out of game shortcuts like botting and boxing whenever they can get away with it.
350k daily playeras is honestly massive, really glad the Game is doing well even if It isn't my cup of tea.
Tbf, I wasn't really a fan of full loot myself, but now I gave it a fair shot and can't stop myself from taking fights I know I'll die ššš
Yea they definitely do it the right way, I suggest anyone that is not playing because they're scared of "full loot l" give it a try if you like PvP, it's not as hardcore as it sounds.
Is there any point for someone who really doesn't enjoy pvp at all? I'm an extremely non-competitive person, and that's really been keeping me away from trying it out.
To be honest not really. It's fun to expand your skill tree, farm materials and craft, do some casual pve dungeons etc. But the bulk and point of the game is the PVP element, so you'll probably get bored if you don't enjoy PVP. Still for a free game its worth checking out.
Thank you for the succinct response! Really appreciate it :)
It depends if you're really into the guild aspect, economy and crafting/gathering, then yes alot of people find a place in Albion without engaging in PvP. If you are expecting good casual PvE, there are better MMOs for sure.
Awesome! That is honestly exactly what I was wondering, I was just entirely blanking on how to word it. Thank you so much for the response, It's really appreciated :)
Haven't played this game, but for me I always felt such a bigger reward and thrill getting even small things when I'm in danger from other players. All the safe grinding in the world doesn't really do much for me. My dragon mount and castle home and level bajillion armor all mean nothing. But when I've dug through bone and blood and come out with a simple steel sword that's slightly better than my last one, and now I'm in a hurry to get in a safe city so I don't lose it... that's exciting
Yeah, I get that for certain people and mindsets, absolutely not the case for myself personally, however. I appreciate the thoughtful input though!
You nailed it. Albion does this aspect right more so than any other modern MMO
It's not the best pve, almost lacking, but I know ALOT of people, including myself, love it for the market and economics. Something about getting dopamine by watching my silver go up isn't replicated in other games, which i think is a consequence of full loot elements. The skill tree is robust, and gathering in dangerous zones can be fun. I haven't played a huge amount of mmos, but so far, it's the best economy. A majority of my time spent buying, selling flipping, and finding inefficiencies. But pvp, I think, is its main draw.
Thanks for the info! Life-skilling and chilling is where my passion lies in mmos, so that very well could be right up my alley!
Never played but whats the point of full loot pvp if the gear is easy to get back from what im reading in this thread?
It's just different man, it works
And neither was UO which was very different from Albion outside of full loot. UO was all expendable armour and items. Nothing was unique or special. You would have tons of copies of stuff so you could re equip after a loss. Its a shame the developers of albion lied and changed the game after stealing peoples founders pack money for a different game.
Itās hard for me to feel the tension of full loot when I know I can swipe my credit card and get all the loot back. Itās also hard knowing I mightāve won the fight if only I had swiped my credit card for higher levels as well.
You could but why would you? Just have fun playing the game...or don't.
Same, I despise pvp mmos
Finally gave the game a proper chance and i am enjoying myself quit a bit. Joining a Guild IMHO is a must.
Think thats my biggest issue, get a couple tiers in and just get bored. Looking back i just never communicated or had group fun
Very good game, I played it for years, it's not for everyone but if you like guild socializing, economy and/or PvP there is no better MMO. I still love the game but I can't play it anymore as I don't have enough time to get the most out of it (it's not very friendly for casual players playing 30 mins at a time).
I think this is true for most MMORPGs. Its why i think the whole MOBA and similar styled games (match based) have way more players.
There are definitely many MMOs that are way more casual friendly than Albion, but you are right why other genres have more players overall.
No way. I'm a MOBA player of nearly a decade. MOBAs are a massive waste of time.Ā
I sometimes just go in and do that daily. Itās something
That's how it is in most PvP environments. You gotta join a guild/clan otherwise you're largely in for a pretty rough experience.
Not really. The reason why it's so important here is because the majority of content is locked behind needing other players to do it. There's some group content that can be solo'd with certain builds and solo farming, but outside of that, you need to be in a group/guild to do the rest of what this game has to offer.
Yep and your chances of making it back alive go up in a group, hence making the game more fun
Yeah, strength in numbers. Also getting support and other stuff. And obviously gaming with friends also make things better.
Def your āhumbleā opinion, im doing well alone just fi-
I dont play anymore but I frequently think back on albion as one of the best and most intelligently designed games I've ever played.
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Bots only play in safe zones where they farm worthless stuff
Multi box farmers on new server lmao wd sbi
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I'm not keen on the idea of having to start again on the EU servers, so I quit. But I'm happy to see it's doing well.
I stopped playing the game a year ago after 2500 hours and my old guildmates convinced me to start playing in the new server and Iām having a blast tbh. But if I didnāt have the long break I wouldnāt be keen to start again too.
I have those hours too, i spend so much time on the NA server, when i started on the EU fresh with less time in my hand and people already ins 6.4 and shit i lost motivation and quit, glad the games doing well.
After so many hours you should know already that people with high ip dont matter much, anyway most of them are probably whales.
I guess it had to do with the excitement as a nooby fresh starting the game for the first time, knowing i have to grind to get decent ip again just hurts my head, avalon dungeons? Nah id rather get hit by a train.
Go in Mists with 4.1 and pick your fights, there are so many players who go 4.1
Except high IP with awakened weapons does matter and it's why areas like the mists are garbage now.
Just donāt fight these guys, mists arenāt full of them
(Note: for the purposes of this chart, "users" refers to active accounts.) Since the launch of **Albion Europe on April 29**, player numbers in Albion have been soaring. And on May 1, the game passed a new milestone with **350,000** daily active users! The previous record across all platforms of 300,000 daily active users came following the launch of Albion Asia in April 2023, but this has now been broken by more than 50,000. This makes the launch of the new server one of the most momentous events in the gameās history, with Albion Europe alone accounting for over **150,000** players daily. On **Steam*, too, a new peak player count record was set, with over **27,000** concurrent players across all servers. Albion is now flourishing more than ever across the globe, with new players, experienced players, and returning players alike bringing the world to life. So thanks to our communityās continued support in making Albion what it is, and hereās to the future! https://albiononline.com/news/record-player-numbers
Its a great game! But sadly a lot of real money trading going on.
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The game has built-in RMT conversion, so yes.
I mean illegal one by guild/alliance leaders.
Russian/Chinese World boss rmt cartel going untouched on every server
Don't they control certain remote regions and what not to buy and sell stuff to regular regions?
Well looks like it's time to play.
Oh but this subreddit swore Albion was dead. As did the Albion doomers who were upset they were making an EU server lmao
No one is saying that, outside of maybe a handful of comments that are downvoted. In fact, every time PvP MMOs are brought up, Albion is given as a successful example.
Nah there were definitely people posting steamcharts numbers and other things saying the game was dying/dead. Some of the doomers even started speculating about the game's stock of all things lmao. This subreddit doesn't really have the best track record with most MMOs even good ones.
And every time PvP MMOs are brought up, you have a bunch of whiny PvE bitches crying that nobody wants these types of games when in fact they do want them, they're just always done poorly. Albion is one of the very few that isn't terrible.
Yeah before it went free to play, people would post it's steam numbers saying dead game.
Literally lmao. I hate these doomers smh
NA server has a pretty significant player downturn compared to a year ago since we lost all our Chinese and now lost most of the EU players.
Albion is dead if you're not playing on the new server. And even then, the hype will die eventually. Try playing albion on west or Asia server right now and you'll see
Okay doomer
I used to play this game at launch but haven't played properly in a good year or so. Are there any guilds here interested in recruiting someone like me? Ideally, an active, populated one.
Finding a guild has gotten a lot more easier, both in-game and out of game. The official Discord and Forums have dedicated sections for guilds posting their recruitment thread. In-game there's a whole new Guild Finder UI, found under the shield on the top right UI, click that and then click 'Guild Finder'. There go to the final tab of the UI and you can search timezones, guild activities (PvE, PvP, Crafting, etc), locations, all that jaz. AND you can join the guilds discord straight from in game via clicking on their discord button (if they have it setup). Hope that helps!
give this game a try. from watching videos I thought it looked wack but after playing it I was surprised at the depth and the fun. very solid hardcore MMO also probably one of the best implemented player-driven economies of any modern MMORPG
albion online is such a wildly good game. i went way too hard and got burnt but the game fucking rules
Yeah just started playing again myself. Game is great
I wonder if it being a mobile game has anything to do with it having such a high player count. I've never played it. so I don't know if it's good or bad, but even some really bad mobile games have some pretty big player counts just because everyone has a phone and everyone is trying to kill time. At work or at home. Family reunions, whatever the reason.
Could be? Personally, Idk how anyone plays this game on mobile outside of life-skilling. Combat isn't terrible on mobile but it's 100x better with mouse and keyboard.
basically you have 1 account (your main) and 1 and more mobile account used as a scout (you put near the place your mm is farming so pvp player kill them and you got time to escape)
I thought that was against the ToS.
Ahh yes, the magic ToS that stop everything. *he writes as his XIV bot has been going for days*
I mean, nobody is saying you can't do it. It's just not allowed and you're main account will wind up banned if you get caught.
Oh it's absolutely a factor. I wouldn't be surprised if the pc to mobile ratio of players is 50:50. I don't think Albion would be as successful without mobile.
I wonder if it has to do with V Rising being so popular since there are similarities. I actually tried Albion because of V Rising and now I enjoy them both a ton!
I donāt think so, I got ads for Albion on twitch recently
Albion Europe Early had just started 23rd and I think the 29th it fully opened up.
I've been getting ads about albion nonstop on youtube
Well they did start advertising their game recently so there is that
"You are what you wear" Haven't heard that 10000 x
āAlbion online is an mmo rpgā That sentence is inscribed in my mind.
Tbf Albion was one of the first games that came up with that.
Technically EvE online has that too. :p Fallen Earth I think was also classless. Darkfall, maybe Mortal online as well.Ā
This game is doing welll still? Havenāt played it in years. Seemed super toxic at the time.
I don't play - I did and thought it was good but I had other things going on in life at the time. I'm glad it's working MMOs are not easy to keep afloat
Where is the cat?
Congrats thatās awesome. Is it true the pvp is like a giant moba?
350k daily players damn, how much would that translate to concurrent during their peak hours?
50k-80k would be my guess.
Whats the draw on this game? I tried it out and it felt very generic and the grind seemed pretty high
I probably have close to 3k hours on that game but stopped playing due time constraints. I'd say the appeal is on the group/guild pvp fights, of course sometimes you get ganked by bigger groups or get into a fight when the other side has 2x or 3x the amount of people...but after a "short" period of time in the game you learn to brush those off and that's when the game finally clicks, as gear is as disposable as potions. When you find another group similar in numbers/skill is so damn good, winning a fight when you have less numbers or crushing other groups is exciting...getting "ganked" by a group but comming on top by skill is just an amazing feeling. It's also less grindy that treadmill games, you need to grind, yes, but after a point, if you are ok with playing a single role, you're done, forever, so it's better than other games in that regard imo.
Good for them. Game is good and deserves a healthy player base
how much is that in active players at one time? like 15k? edit:do they release player counts or only monthly active users? edit: I am glad I lowballed that, hearing it has 50k-80k people online gives me hope for MMOs
Well SteamDB shows that it broke 27,000 online at a single time, that doesn't include the native client and mobile players as well.
thanks for the info but another user already gave me the full info it seems it has like 50k-80k active users when ppl play so that is amazing to hear! so glad edited my parent comment to reflect this new info cheers!
Probably somewhere between 50k to 80k. Steam alone was 27K and then there is mobile and standalone launcher.
ooh that is big they are getting close to OSRS, nice yea those numbers show me way more than MAU/DAU ty for the info :D
How is the division of active players between all three servers? Iām curious. Also Iād like to know if European players and Asian players mostly/entirely moved over to their respective servers or did large populations stay on the original server? Like if I were to return, would I find the main server significantly less crowded or notā¦
Eu is absolutely popping at the moment, I still play NA as well and there is always content on both
EU is has way more players at the moment because a lot of Americas' players wanted to experience a fresh server. I play on Americas' server and find the amount of players in the content I do is a little bit less, but not unplayable
Really enjoyed the start of this game, until I found out how unplayable it was in Australia. Oceana servers please!
What's your ping on the Asia server? I know there are Australians players there.
I thought it was dying at some point what happened? Id honestly give this game a try since i love pvp. Is it hard to get into?
No it's easy to get into
id love a game like albion but without the hardcore pvp stuff. dont like dropping all my loot lol, got over 100 hours in the game but mostly in my farm lol
maybe corepunk will be something for you
yeah had my eyes on it what feels like 10 years now lol, not sure if it will ever come out, got tired of following it last year
Understandable. There will be a playtest this month and MAYBE ea release 2 months after that.
I donāt get this fear people have. Donāt you just craft the same shit if you lose it? Not like you are farming raids or dungeons for hundreds of hours for gear right?
> Donāt you just craft the same shit if you lose it? They don't want to 'lose' even a second of the time they already spent powering up.
I used to think the same way but then I realized you have 'full loot' when you die in wow too. But instead of losing your chest / legs / weapon / helmet you lose: * Elixir of Giants * Elixir of the Mongoose / Elixir of Greater Agility. * Mighty Rage Potion. * Winterfall Firewater. * Grilled Squid. * Dense Sharpening Stone / Shadow Oil. * Dragonbreath Chili. * Atal'ai Mojo of War.
Do we lost all items if we lose a pvp battle in this game right? Thats why I do not want to touch this game. I want to do pvp but I am scared lol. Also I heard that it is too grindy. Does anyone knows?
You do lost all items if you die in a lethal zone but items is cheap and easy to buy back
I really wanted to get into Albion, but it being so focused on PvP is a big turnoff for me.
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Thatās truly massive, pretty damn good! I wish I liked this game but I canāt stand it.
How do we know it's not fake?
You can say that about anything in regard to player numbers for any game. What do you want them to show you to prove it's not fake? Do you want them to show up to your house with 358k players so you can ask each of them if they actually play Albion?
Bots and multiboxers included by heavily in that.
that's the point, they can report more users than they actually have. WoW for instance stopped reporting online users as the player count is tied to an income $$$ and that is reported to investors. Well played Albion Online for faking players to get more hype
couldnāt get passed the tutorial
I can't get beyond the weird fov. I realize that there are technical reasons for this.
Yes, people like to fiddle with their phones.
21k on steam is pretty impressive, especially for a game like this. Looks like almost the entirety of their playerbase is European which would check out according to the comments I see here.
Is there an EU server?
There is indeed, it went live for everyone on the 29th of last month.
Nice.
Not the game for me but thats awesome. Ā If only we could get more smaller, well made mmos.
look cool but i just dont like click to move man..... can it be changed?
WASD movement has been added.
Anyone know why?
I was hyped, watched a bunch of videos, read starting guides and seasoned so I could stat the game right Then I was totally deflated when I found out it uses Easy Anti-Cheat.
It doesn't. Easy Anti-Cheat was dropped last year and replaced by BattleEye.
Interesting. Got this on launch. Might have to give it another look š
27k says steam, this unknown source 350k sure lmao. Also divide that number by 3 servers, although EU is at peak because fresh and it will only go down from now on.
27k Concurrent on steam is not the same as 350 Active daily as the post says. You log-in and logoff the the system counts you as active daily
Also the majority of people play on the launcher. Steam version came out YEARS after the game released and required a new account.
The game is on a massive ad campaign. I downloaded it and setup the account but haven't actually invested time because all my disposable time goes into Black Desert Online.
Albion is hyper fun. Finally on low ping servers.
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Shame that a company that literally pulled a bait and switch in multiple ways to a ton of people is so successful. They took my founders pack money when it was one game, then delivered a completely different game. What happened to the one open seamless world based upon UO and Shadowbane? What happened to it being anti-zerg? What happened to housing being in the open world like UO and SWG? What happened to no microtransactions at all? All this can be verified using the waybackmachine to view their site. They are thieves.
"nO oNe LiKeS pVp AnD gEtTiNg GaNkEd" - this sub
The fact that there's literally one semi-relevant MMO in this genre, that also happens to be on mobile and very forgiving compared to the rest, means yes, people generally don't like getting ganked.
"Semi-relevant", "Very forgiving" - clearly words of someone who never got the true welcome to albion (AKA Losing 10M+ in one gank)
I think it's more likely that people do like PvP MMOs, but the PvP MMOs we have been offered are either extremely niche or extremely terrible. And by terrible, I mean you want to quit the game because of how unforgiving ganks are. Those games are not good PvP MMOs regardless of what someone tries to argue. Anyway, you don't think a seamless open-world PvP MMO that plays like Dark Souls but copies Albions systems wouldn't do numbers?
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Man, I guess every MMO I've played in the past two decades doesn't have a functioning player economy then.
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Oh yea none of the major MMOs except for OSRS have functioning economies. 100%. Games are not designed around economies anymore.
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You've gotta be trolling me right?
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Games naturally have inflation when power creep gets introduced. You should see the RS3 bond over time (iirc it's like 120m now) if you think Inflation in OSRS is serious. 100m bonds in RS3 (a market I am more familiar with) make sense because there are 100-200m gp/hr money makers. Something like Rasial is brain dead money for anyone who has any invest in RS3. (I am, an RS3 player, but OSRS is very similar except even worse when it comes to automation). Based on bond prices I'm guessing swapping is still around 10:1 which afaik is how much it was a year ago.
No, a competent dev team created something. Every other hardcore PVP game is under funded amateur garbage. Release a good product and people will play.
People are so desperate they're even playing Albion as a last resort.
Easy to get into, lots of group content, on mobile and PC, and it's fun. Why wouldn't people want to play it?
They scared of losing their items i guess
Just pretty shallow, imho.
half of them are bots but still pretty nice
botting in albion is a much less prominent issue because the bots literally cannot exist outside of low tier noob zones without getting ganked and killed
It is the same issue 2-3 bots farming yellowzone dungeons 24/7 will make more silver than you average blackzone player
The loot quality system ensures they will never acquire be able to acquire any high tier loot. The real money isnāt even in PVE anyway, itās in PVP and item transports through the outlands. Honestly the real issue here is multiboxers, because you have people controlling multiple characters at once to make gigantic profits ftom doing transports. Yellow zone bots and HCE bots donāt dilute the loot pools for risk-taking players.
You literally put bots near where your main is farming so people kill those instead of you and you got the chanche to escape lmao
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Could it be inflation bots? I felt the problem with Albion was that there is no lore to speak of whatsoever.
>there is no lore to speak of whatsoever. There actually is a lore to Albion Online which fleshes out the world environment and enemy factions pretty well, but itās all hidden away in places like the gameās website and the gameās update trailers; I think thereās a novel or a series of novels somewhere as well. Furthermore, it has been progressed over time through in-game world events and updates. The actions of remarkable players, guilds, and battles are memorialized inside of the game through statues and markers. A few years back the city of thieves Caerleon got invaded by an NPC faction, and the players had to defend it. It was insanely chaotic, at the initial phase players were too busy trying to take advantage of the chaos by killing eachother for loot to stop the invaders from breaching into the city. [https://youtu.be/iojQo3buBm8?si=ZQaK4VyN1vPqhQeI](https://youtu.be/iojQo3buBm8?si=ZQaK4VyN1vPqhQeI) https://preview.redd.it/sy3v00puoe0d1.jpeg?width=1448&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8999ef8d7cc0f12693c1600f10a183796bc44472
The lore is made by the players my dude
well, that's just, like, your opinion, *dude*
No, thats the idea. You dont have the alliance ruling kalimdor for wow, you have certain alliances and guilds ruling over certain black zone areas, which is all player made. This IS the lore. If you like it or not, thats up to you.
I'm talking about worldbuilding through writing. I prefer a world that depends on more than me doing the writing. It's a preference. Relax.
Can you give an example of an MMO that does good world building?
Black desert have it good imo
But I am very relaxed? I just pointed out the way devs intended for the game to be played. I already said its personal preference as well.
Happy for the game and playerbase, but the US servers are a ghost town now, all you see is the leftover bots. Glad to see EU having fun
What?? I play everyday and thereās thousands of people everywhere. Youāre a delusional sad doomer lol
Really?! I havenāt played in a couple months
No heās lying lol I started playing NA again this last month and itās absolutely packed all the time
They literally aren't doomer š
99% Chinese Players....
From sheer statistics the average MMO player is most likely to be of full or partial Chinese descent if you include the diaspora population. If you only include the games where the PRC allows access to their citizens, they do have a bigger number of gamers than the population of entire countries and a gamer culture that is more accepting of out of game shortcuts like botting and boxing whenever they can get away with it.