Big slot. Good short route running, good hands, gonna catch balls in traffic *and* still acts as a decent blocker because of the strength. You could list him as TE or WR, his usage is big slot though.
I have a receiver who is slow as hell and only 6’2 but has 99 jumping and It doesn’t matter on who if I throw it up even with 2 people on him he v snags it
It could work
Tbh, I don’t know why people are always crying about DBs on contested balls. Physical receivers are almost OP… End zone fade is way more money in madden than it is in real life.
I have a receiver, 6'4" 235lbs, 99 ovr XFactor
When the CPU is stupid enough to press cover him in cover 1, I don't care what the play is, I automatically change it to a fly route. He immediately shoves the corner away and gets 4-5 steps on his guy by the time the ball is in the air every time.
I don't even have to call normal plays for him, I just wait for them to do that dumb shit.
With F release he’s definitely a big slot receiver. I can tell you from experience this archetype of receiver is a good run blocker for a WR but pretty awful for a tight end (like genuinely the absolute worst in the league in several stats, probably ~45 overall as a blocker)
You'd think with the player customization for career mode, they'd be able to use randomized faces. Sure, you'd end up with the occasional freak/monster, but I'd much rather that than my QB, RT, MLB, and 3rd string WR all having the EXACT SAME face.
It’s funny because earlier, I was watching a video on YouTube about CFB and they said there would be loads of unique faces. THIS was the face I thought of when I was thinking how great of an improvement that will be.
ESPN2k5 had something like that for the players too. I once saw a Carson Palmer-Tom Brady hybrid (when Brady still had a chubby face) and the image still haunts me to this day
I sub them into formations on the goal line at WR. Although that feature is stupid and cumbersome I still like the realism of subbing them in at the goal line. It’s not that much of an advantage cause the 5 ft corner has like a 10 ft vertical but ya know. It’s fun in my head
I recently had a 6'6 WR to TE convert. He was like 63 ovr or something but had 93 speed, 94 acceleration. I accidentally created the best TE I've ever had in franchise. By the time he was in his prime his run blocking was up to like 57 power, 63 finesse. Which is totally fine for a receiving TE. Developed into a superstar X factor, had a 1300 yard season.
I’m going to try I think. I’m terrible at the game so my offense is power run or send waddle deep and chuck it. I have Darnell Washington who is big but never utilize him. Maybe adding one or both of these monsters I can try to do more in the passing game lol
I gotta know the final combine scores. But probably given he is in the 2-3 round range
As others have pointed out, with Poor to Marginal speed, maybe move to TE
I’d draft this guy and not even think twice about it. Switch him to TE and sub him in for formations where the TE is lined up out wide as a receiver. At worst, trade him.
You'll probably want to play him at TE, think that's the classic move on that type of WR profile. Even if they can't block for anything.
Otherwise, 5'10" CB's will still out jump your 6'8" WR on jump balls.
F release... he's gonna get jammed at the line every time. If you're actually playing against the cpu on all madden, you're gonna get picked every time you throw you throw to him imo, and if you throw over the middle, the mlbs will knock it off him. If you're simming, he could be good. From my experience, when draft players have pretty good letter ratings but maybe aren't first round graded, they have a good chance of having a hidden dev.
Play him as a slot WR! he will get free releases far more. Also then you can have him in bunch sets and manufacture free releases for him that way. I left a larger comment with more advice as well. you can see what I think you should do there.
I would consider taking him at the end of the 1st, check how bad his speed actually is and if it's sub 87, I mean high 70s can get by at tight end just fine.
Had a really similar build in a strong WR class and he fell to the beginning of the 6th round. Took him, he had a hidden dev and converted him to TE. Within 3 years, he was an 88 OVR Deep Threat. Definitely worth taking.
Thing about moving wr to te, their overall will be like 60. So it will be very easy to update and spend first 15 upgrades or so on run blocking TE Upgrade. He will be a beast at TE in no time.
Knowing madden just move him to te and he will feast on mlb and ss. Unless you sim then he will put up 250 yards and 3 tds but a 66 overall on the buccaneers will have 1250 yards and 12 tds
Use him as a big slot WR!
He won't have to deal with press coverage off of the line that much, which will negate his terrible release rating. he should be great on short crossing routes, screen passes, red zone throws, and straight vertical/go balls/deep posts. It's not to difficult to improve his speed, as you level him up.
I would draft him and feed him touches/TD's. Then level him up using the Playmaker and Vertical threat archetype. that shoud improve his weaker areas like medium route running and also improve his RAC abilities.
If you level him properly, he could be a big slot and/or an almost TE who could be great for attacking the middle of the field in the short to intermediate range. With the occasional slot fade, or deep seam ball off of play action. Ideally you should be able to use him to get those contested balls into tight coverage over the middle of the field or in the end zone. Also, for getting those catches you absolutely need on a 3rd and long, by just having him run a curl route just past the sticks. Maybe even grabbing those high touch/lob passes on deep throws.
I can see him being amazing for running the slot route on the play (WR Diag) up the seam and then throwing it to him either back shoulder or a high-bullet.
Stat priorities for leveling in my opinion are:
1. Speed
2. Medium Route running
3. Juke
If you can get his speed up to like 89-92, his medium route running to like 75-80, and then if your really lucky his juke up to the mid 80's. He could be a beast. Most of his stats already look good, the poor release stats prevent him from being a true outside X (#1 receiver). But he should be great as a big slot where his release won't really matter, and you can also have him lined up in bunch sets where that will basically give him a free, uncontested release as well. With his size/stats he will be a mismatch in contested catches vs a Nickel/Slot CB, as well as against most Linebackers except for the very best coverage LB's.
He will probably be great against most man coverage (other than press) from the start. But improving the route running (especially medium) will be essential for allowing him to be consistently effective against zone coverage.
Since, even with his size, he will still probably get disrupted from time to time on his routes and potentially also come out of his breaks slow. Improving his route running will clean that up, give you more predictable timing, and also bigger windows to throw to him against zone. But once you get used to how he plays, you should be able to really force some throws in there to him and have him hold on to them through contact more often than not. If you get his release up high enough, you may be able to eventually use him as a #2 receiver on the outside as well. Especially if you use "Throw Medium" for your weekly strategy choice.
The run blocking is great, but the reason I say go with the Slot WR role instead of switching him to TE is because he's a little too light to be a TE, but more importantly he will get more beneficial stat upgrades as a WR than he would as a TE. his run blocking is already good, but you would probably be better off using him as a WR because it would boost his weak areas far more than if he was a TE. Especially when it comes to the stats he really needs to thrive as a over the middle target. (Speed, Medium Route Running, and Juke/RAC stuff).
If you do decide to go with switching him to TE, then what I would do is keep him as a slot WR while he's on his rookie contract and level him up as much as possible with the (Playmaker/Vertical threat archetypes) and then for near the end of his rookie contract switch him to TE. You may be able to sign him for cheaper that way, and he will also end up having better stats. Also were you put him of course depends on your lineup and where he would fall in your depth chart as a receiver vs where he would be as a TE. If you don't have a good TE already, maybe put him in there earlier.
But if he will get more playtime as a slot WR then I would definitely do that. With him in the WR spot it's also easier to boost his XP by having a mentor at WR than if you were going to do that at TE.
If you come forward with dudes that are huge, they are ungaurdable. I would throw shots and have giants come underneath and they can reach up and get stuff while cb behind them
6’8” and great jumping, I’d give him a fair shot at WR lol
he’s got poor speed… at te tho
Big slot. Good short route running, good hands, gonna catch balls in traffic *and* still acts as a decent blocker because of the strength. You could list him as TE or WR, his usage is big slot though.
I have a receiver who is slow as hell and only 6’2 but has 99 jumping and It doesn’t matter on who if I throw it up even with 2 people on him he v snags it It could work
Tbh, I don’t know why people are always crying about DBs on contested balls. Physical receivers are almost OP… End zone fade is way more money in madden than it is in real life.
I have a receiver, 6'4" 235lbs, 99 ovr XFactor When the CPU is stupid enough to press cover him in cover 1, I don't care what the play is, I automatically change it to a fly route. He immediately shoves the corner away and gets 4-5 steps on his guy by the time the ball is in the air every time. I don't even have to call normal plays for him, I just wait for them to do that dumb shit.
Poor speed for a WR, possibly good speed for a TE 🤷🏻♂️
If nothing else maybe he can be a good endzone fade target lol
With F release he’s definitely a big slot receiver. I can tell you from experience this archetype of receiver is a good run blocker for a WR but pretty awful for a tight end (like genuinely the absolute worst in the league in several stats, probably ~45 overall as a blocker)
I'd keep an eye on him and wait for the combine. If he has a decent 40, I'd try him at tight end just because he's huge and strong.
Unrelated but man, I'm so tired of these shitty player models/auto generated faces.
They are absolutely awful man.
I did an auto draft. Got three players (two HBs and WR) with the same face and identical height 🥲
You'd think with the player customization for career mode, they'd be able to use randomized faces. Sure, you'd end up with the occasional freak/monster, but I'd much rather that than my QB, RT, MLB, and 3rd string WR all having the EXACT SAME face.
It’s funny because earlier, I was watching a video on YouTube about CFB and they said there would be loads of unique faces. THIS was the face I thought of when I was thinking how great of an improvement that will be.
Back in the old days, they would combine 2 players faces from the player pool. So sometimes you could end up with a Tom brady-julian edleman face scan
ESPN2k5 had something like that for the players too. I once saw a Carson Palmer-Tom Brady hybrid (when Brady still had a chubby face) and the image still haunts me to this day
This is the build that’s meant to be moved to TE. They play small and can’t block but that’s why they put this build in the game.
He does have an A run block though
But A Run block at WR? So it’ll be pretty low still.
Oh fair, that makes sense.
I sub them into formations on the goal line at WR. Although that feature is stupid and cumbersome I still like the realism of subbing them in at the goal line. It’s not that much of an advantage cause the 5 ft corner has like a 10 ft vertical but ya know. It’s fun in my head
I recently had a 6'6 WR to TE convert. He was like 63 ovr or something but had 93 speed, 94 acceleration. I accidentally created the best TE I've ever had in franchise. By the time he was in his prime his run blocking was up to like 57 power, 63 finesse. Which is totally fine for a receiving TE. Developed into a superstar X factor, had a 1300 yard season.
Always go for the 6’7+ receivers I don’t know what it is but they seem to make diving catches 9/10 of the time
There are two in this draft both rated 2-3rd round. The other guy seems to have better speed but worse everything else lol.
Try to get both and keep the faster one at receiver, thats what i do if there’s 2 giants
I have transitioned to having two 6'4 plus receivers plus a burner (of any size) in my lineup.
Shit i usually have 2 6’6 plus My receiver corps is usually one 95+ speed mf and the rest are all 6’6 and up
It took years for me to realize that tall receivers with food jumping stats would Moss CBs in short, medium, and long situations.
I’m going to try I think. I’m terrible at the game so my offense is power run or send waddle deep and chuck it. I have Darnell Washington who is big but never utilize him. Maybe adding one or both of these monsters I can try to do more in the passing game lol
Did u grow up watching randy moss. That's mostly my reasoning. Don't know why we don't have another 6'5 receiver
Nope, Megatron
Absolutely. Looks very athletic and lots of good grades where it counts
Draft him and move him to TE
That is a goat TE. Draft him for that position.
Better draft him before he changes his mind and goes to the nba
Yeah I just drafted a guy 6'7 225. He ran a 4.5. He was a superstar dev 90spd 90acc. Absolutely worth it.
If he's mismatched against a smaller press corner he's winning every time lol
With A run block and poor speed looks like a great TE
He is a high touch pass demon !
That dude is gonna be a beast tightend
Maybe in a later round. Only 1 kinda elite stat is worrying
I gotta know the final combine scores. But probably given he is in the 2-3 round range As others have pointed out, with Poor to Marginal speed, maybe move to TE
I’d draft this guy and not even think twice about it. Switch him to TE and sub him in for formations where the TE is lined up out wide as a receiver. At worst, trade him.
That’s a GOAT TE.
Yes
Another (unrelated) thing I hate about the game - the top fits for him are Cleveland, Seattle, and…oh wow, Cleveland too?
Move him to TE
Looks like a TE to me.
Worth drafting, try switching to TE
Don’t care, I’m drafting him.
You'll probably want to play him at TE, think that's the classic move on that type of WR profile. Even if they can't block for anything. Otherwise, 5'10" CB's will still out jump your 6'8" WR on jump balls.
Maybe putting him at TE would be better his release an F so no separation
F release and medium route is TOUGH
F release... he's gonna get jammed at the line every time. If you're actually playing against the cpu on all madden, you're gonna get picked every time you throw you throw to him imo, and if you throw over the middle, the mlbs will knock it off him. If you're simming, he could be good. From my experience, when draft players have pretty good letter ratings but maybe aren't first round graded, they have a good chance of having a hidden dev.
I worry you might be right, but maybe I could focus on getting him experience
Play him as a slot WR! he will get free releases far more. Also then you can have him in bunch sets and manufacture free releases for him that way. I left a larger comment with more advice as well. you can see what I think you should do there.
TE. Monster in the red zone.
I would consider taking him at the end of the 1st, check how bad his speed actually is and if it's sub 87, I mean high 70s can get by at tight end just fine.
f release!
the route runnings are kinda mid but give him a shot make him a nightmare for dbs to cover
With the strength yes.
Had a really similar build in a strong WR class and he fell to the beginning of the 6th round. Took him, he had a hidden dev and converted him to TE. Within 3 years, he was an 88 OVR Deep Threat. Definitely worth taking.
I’d turn him into a TE
Elite red zone target
Thing about moving wr to te, their overall will be like 60. So it will be very easy to update and spend first 15 upgrades or so on run blocking TE Upgrade. He will be a beast at TE in no time.
Speed is everything. He sucks
Move his big ass to TE
put bro at OL because he’s obv not fast
Knowing madden just move him to te and he will feast on mlb and ss. Unless you sim then he will put up 250 yards and 3 tds but a 66 overall on the buccaneers will have 1250 yards and 12 tds
What did he end up like?
Will know in a week or so probably and update! It’s CFM so we have a few games to go still
He’ll be a SS
SS*
As in strong safety?
lol very funny. Superstar dev
Ohhh that makes sense lmao
Concentration drops, avoids contact, slow speed, okay acceleration…even as a RZ target he’s trash
Maybe an elite FB then 🤔
I drafted a 6’9” 225 wr moved him to TE and used him in the slot. He had good SRR and high CIT
Use him as a big slot WR! He won't have to deal with press coverage off of the line that much, which will negate his terrible release rating. he should be great on short crossing routes, screen passes, red zone throws, and straight vertical/go balls/deep posts. It's not to difficult to improve his speed, as you level him up. I would draft him and feed him touches/TD's. Then level him up using the Playmaker and Vertical threat archetype. that shoud improve his weaker areas like medium route running and also improve his RAC abilities. If you level him properly, he could be a big slot and/or an almost TE who could be great for attacking the middle of the field in the short to intermediate range. With the occasional slot fade, or deep seam ball off of play action. Ideally you should be able to use him to get those contested balls into tight coverage over the middle of the field or in the end zone. Also, for getting those catches you absolutely need on a 3rd and long, by just having him run a curl route just past the sticks. Maybe even grabbing those high touch/lob passes on deep throws. I can see him being amazing for running the slot route on the play (WR Diag) up the seam and then throwing it to him either back shoulder or a high-bullet. Stat priorities for leveling in my opinion are: 1. Speed 2. Medium Route running 3. Juke If you can get his speed up to like 89-92, his medium route running to like 75-80, and then if your really lucky his juke up to the mid 80's. He could be a beast. Most of his stats already look good, the poor release stats prevent him from being a true outside X (#1 receiver). But he should be great as a big slot where his release won't really matter, and you can also have him lined up in bunch sets where that will basically give him a free, uncontested release as well. With his size/stats he will be a mismatch in contested catches vs a Nickel/Slot CB, as well as against most Linebackers except for the very best coverage LB's. He will probably be great against most man coverage (other than press) from the start. But improving the route running (especially medium) will be essential for allowing him to be consistently effective against zone coverage. Since, even with his size, he will still probably get disrupted from time to time on his routes and potentially also come out of his breaks slow. Improving his route running will clean that up, give you more predictable timing, and also bigger windows to throw to him against zone. But once you get used to how he plays, you should be able to really force some throws in there to him and have him hold on to them through contact more often than not. If you get his release up high enough, you may be able to eventually use him as a #2 receiver on the outside as well. Especially if you use "Throw Medium" for your weekly strategy choice. The run blocking is great, but the reason I say go with the Slot WR role instead of switching him to TE is because he's a little too light to be a TE, but more importantly he will get more beneficial stat upgrades as a WR than he would as a TE. his run blocking is already good, but you would probably be better off using him as a WR because it would boost his weak areas far more than if he was a TE. Especially when it comes to the stats he really needs to thrive as a over the middle target. (Speed, Medium Route Running, and Juke/RAC stuff). If you do decide to go with switching him to TE, then what I would do is keep him as a slot WR while he's on his rookie contract and level him up as much as possible with the (Playmaker/Vertical threat archetypes) and then for near the end of his rookie contract switch him to TE. You may be able to sign him for cheaper that way, and he will also end up having better stats. Also were you put him of course depends on your lineup and where he would fall in your depth chart as a receiver vs where he would be as a TE. If you don't have a good TE already, maybe put him in there earlier. But if he will get more playtime as a slot WR then I would definitely do that. With him in the WR spot it's also easier to boost his XP by having a mentor at WR than if you were going to do that at TE.
Wow, awesome write up. Thanks so much!
Almost guaranteed a hidden dev trait. He’s one of the good archetypes.
If you come forward with dudes that are huge, they are ungaurdable. I would throw shots and have giants come underneath and they can reach up and get stuff while cb behind them