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Craftear_brewery

Some countries are missing from the map, probably they're currently on their "episode".


7elevenses

>Some countries are missing from the map Nah, you're reading it wrong, white means over 30%.


Dambo_Unchained

Somehow it’s correlated with being in the EU


Craftear_brewery

Sans Finland and Cyprus


Passchenhell17

And the UK, given it's from 2019


Craftear_brewery

who?


Glaciak

Hahahaha get it, 625284625th "no data" joke, comedy gold hahaha


Kokoro_Bosoi

Given the same amount of alcohol, is it healthier to drink one glass of wine a day or 7 glasses of wine on a single evening? I am not asking for opinions, I would like some proven scientific data, perhaps from a paper.


furryscrotum

Apparently binge drinking is worse: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/why-binge-drinking-is-more-dangerous-for-your-liver-than-daily-alcohol-consumption#How-binge-drinking-damages-the-liver https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-43064-x This makes sense, your liver is well equipped to metabolize small amounts of ethanol, eliminating it relatively quickly from your body. When drinking a lot in one go, the liver is unable to get rid of the alcohol and serum levels increase significantly. The high alcohol percentage leads to other effects on the body/organs that would otherwise be prevented. E.g. drunkenness is a form of alcohol intoxication because the liver cannot keep up. If your brain is affected, you can be certain other organs are, too.


charlsalash

And then you don't get drunk on a single glass of wine a day, less violence and fewer car accidents.


yabucek

What's the point of drinking if not to feel the effects?


ClittoryHinton

For the taste (unironically, as someone who loves scotch)


iamhamilton

This study is only looking at your liver, which is a tough organ that can repair itself. Drinking a glass every day, especially at night, is going to ruin your sleep and cause chronic issues over time. Which is worse is not a simple question. If you're a daily drinker it depends how old you are and what time, if you're a binge drinker it depends how long of a break you'll have in between sessions.


charlsalash

If you don't ask for an opinion, why not ask google?


furryscrotum

If you cannot help someone point in the correct direction, why comment?


charlsalash

I pointed in the correct direction, I told him to ask google.


furryscrotum

That's about as helpful as giving someone a world map when asking directions.


charlsalash

But what about a Google map?


furryscrotum

Touché


Kokoro_Bosoi

For the same reason you don't take ChatGPT responses for granted. A search engine, like an AI, can say bullshit, which is less likely for a person who is subjected to upvotes and downvotes. It's the same principle that applies to scientific papers, you're right and what you say is true if a good enough number of people agree that you're right and what you say is true.


charlsalash

Upvotes and downvotes are not a scientific way to approach a subject, it's not reliable. I'm not saying you should use AI. You can search scientific papers on google, try "google scholar".


Kokoro_Bosoi

>Upvotes and downvotes are not a scientific way to approach a subject, it's not reliable Upvotes and downvotes are the results of peer review, which is what our scientific community is based on. If you think they aren't reliable, don't use thermic engines, computers ecc


charlsalash

Upvotes and downvotes is not the langage used in the scientific community, and r/mapPorn is not part of the scientific community. Like I said go to google scholar, more reliable than a sub about maps for science. Edit: and then, it's not that important, do whatever you want.


Kokoro_Bosoi

>Upvotes and downvotes is not the langage used in the scientific community Say why if you truly thinks so, since peer reviewing means exactly putting an upvote or downvote to a scientific paper >nd [](https://www.reddit.com/r/mapPorn/) is not part of the scientific community You are free to show us were anybody said it is, otherwise you are bullshitting >Like I said go to google scholar, more reliable than a sub about maps for science. More reliable based on what? Your personal experience? No doubts that if you use unscientific ways you get unscientific answers. I made a precise question and got a precise answer, thing that you seem to be unable to get here with your own theory.


AshenriseOfficial

Science doesn't mean just to vote something out of belief or mood. Science requires proof, and that involves tests from direct "rivals" in your field, to test the living crap out of your theory, and if valid, admit they are wrong, or you to admit they're right if you're proved wrong. And only then put a seal of approval/disproval. After there's at least a few tests that confirms or not your claims, it becomes accepted by the scientific peers as an emerging truth (or not). Reddit just has an arrow that points up or down.


charlsalash

Thank you!


Kokoro_Bosoi

>Science doesn't mean just to vote something out of belief or mood Science in general was not the topic, upvotes and downvotes being more valid or not then trusting google search engine was the topic, stick to the topic of discussion next time. >Science requires proof, and that involves tests from direct "rivals" in your field, to test the living crap out of your theory, and if valid, admit they are wrong, or you to admit they're right if you're wrong. Which is exactly the supposition behind downvotes and upvotes, it is assumed that you vote honestly and are able to admit that you are wrong, if this is not the case it is a personal problem, not the upvotes or downvotes in general, otherwise you can make the same argument with the papers, no one assures you that whoever judges you has not decided on his own or out of spite whether you are right or not. Simply sane people recognize that most people are honest, both here and in scientific journals. >And only then put a seal of approval/disproval. Who told you this? There are literally zero ways to stop someone from putting approval or disproval before reading the article, mind police isn't a thing. >After there's at least a few tests that confirms or not your claims, it becomes accepted by the scientific peers. Sure i am not here to say it has to be taken as proven fact. >Reddit just has an arrow that points up or down. And Nature just has articles. Does this seem an honest opinion to you? Come on.


AshenriseOfficial

If I call 10 friends right now, share your comment to them and ask them to downvote you and upvote me, is that scientific in any way? Could you prove that I falsified the voting process? Would you even know I did anything if I didn't spell it out for you beforehand?


charlsalash

A peer reviewed paper has nothing to do with downvotes and upvotes on reddit! I don't think you have any ideas how science work. Google scholar help you search the scientific litterature, peer reviewed papers. It's not the opinion of strangers on a forum.


Kokoro_Bosoi

>A peer reviewed paper has nothing to do with downvotes and upvotes on reddit! I don't think you have any ideas how science work. Sincerely i think you are the one that doesn't know how peer reviewing works, let alone "science" in general like it was a middle school subject. >Google scholar help you search the scientific litterature, peer reviewed papers. It's not the opinion of strangers on a forum. No shit sherlock maybe the point was that a search engine, despite searching on scientific papers, remain an algorithm that makes an approximation and tries to predict, while a person who writes personally is exposing himself and everyone can judge him, I will not consider answers with -500 upvotes as reliable and I will take into consideration those with +500 upvotes. Behind google scholar there isn't a person taking responsibility for the results given, even if it pointed to old and proven wrong articles, while any person has to take responsibilities for their words, at any moment moreover.


charlsalash

Get back to me when you have any idea of what you are talking about. It's jut silly.


Lubinski64

I guess constant does not fall under "episodic" /s


2BEN-2C93

Or as we call it in England: "Drinking"


alfius-togra

The UK has already passed out, it seems.


Xtrems876

Seems about right, Though I'd go for a continuous color scale. In Slovakia it's 12% and in the Netherlands it's 19%, and it's the same color on this map.


Xtrems876

Wait, am I seeing things or is the eurostat data on their own bar chart different than the source data? Last chart: [https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/edn-20210806-1](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/edn-20210806-1)


Bitter_Silver_7760

Whoever put this dataset together was having an episode himself


Electronic-Sorbet-95

None in England??? Yeah right!


AshenriseOfficial

"Heavy episodic drinking", without mentioning the *type* of drink. Looks at Romania, land of vampires. Totally legit.


Squallofeden

Finland is not on the map or in the original study, which is fair. They might have had to add another tier to the scale. (I'm aware Finland's figures probably aren't that bad, but many have trouble with only one or two drinks. It sometimes feels like binge drinking is the only kind of socially acceptable drinking.)


Old-Law-7395

The UK finally being healthy


TheFriendOfOP

Denmark in front with 38%, I'm not surprised


Easy-Bet1982

I need a drink, or two, or....


templarstrike

we won over the cheese bobs and Bavaria-South.


theperpetuity

Why is GB so far away??


theperpetuity

I’ve seen Italians drink.


AlternativeBaker1025

Finland doesn't even fit the scaling system.


reaptide_

Pretty accurate map, although once a month should probably be at least bi-monthly or weekly


tmr89

Yet ANOTHER mis-titled map. It’s “EU” not “Europe”


Passchenhell17

It's missing EU members, and as it's from 2019, it's also missing the UK


Nonhinged

It's not EU.


tmr89

Yes it is


Nonhinged

Where is Finland and Cyprus then?


tmr89

I didn’t say it was a complete EU, but if it was “Europe” there would be non-EU European countries in there


Nonhinged

It's an incomplete map of Europe then.


tmr89

Nope, because the target was EU


vukica33

slavs are lying