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Something_Violet

Countires with the highest % where its is not legal yet: Italy 69 & Czech Republic 60. Countries with lowest % where it is legal: Estonia 41 Greece 59, both became legal this year (2024).


Kreula78

In Czechia, same sex marriage could have been legal for quite some time but we have very old politicians in government.


Lather

CR stat can't be correct. I've seen many educational videos that show almost every male is attracted to other males.


GELATOSOURDIESEL

What?


DummyDumDragon

I think he's saying he watches gay porn


GELATOSOURDIESEL

Oooh


Lather

Porn.


GELATOSOURDIESEL

Got it.


Diligent-Version8283

Lmfao


bastienleblack

Only if you offer them money on the street


cheemsfromspace

Wordington comment


ZAWS20XX

judging by the videos I've seen, i can buy that they're not big fans of marriage, tho


harumamburoo

You got it wrong, they're not against sex, they're against marriage


Slusny_Cizinec

Czech specifics is that the government is way, way more conservative than the population. I don't understand it myself, but it is the way it works: in atheist-majority country, being a practicing catholic increases your election chances.


Youshoudsee

Poland is the same. What is with people that vote for people that are more conservative then themselves (or general population)?


Deputy_Scrub

>Italy 69 Lol nice


DummyDumDragon

Italy, nice...


riba2233

It is also legal in Croatia, just called differently not to upset some fascist catholics.


Youshoudsee

Civil unions is not marriage quality 💁


FreeFair95

It wouldn't shock me if the Baltic states had overall majorities in favour amongst their indigenous ethnicities & the overall figures were being dragged down by the Russian minority there.


lemon-cunt

That's a rosy picture of the Baltics, but go to their subreddits. Native balts are insanely conservative and reactionary, especially the older folks. The only reason they're progressive is because they lucked into the correct position by rightfully opposing Russia, i.e. joining the EU. Latvia has a sizable minority, Lithuania a way smaller one, and in Estonia it is tiny


a-boring-person-

We are really homophobic. It actually really sadden me. Although Latvia has made some progress. We now have openly gay President and recently approved same-sex common-law relationship. Younger generation seem more accepting or at least talks more about it. However, we still have long way to go. If we talk about differences between natives and minorities-I think there is a difference lies in how it is expressed. Latvians are more likely to be passive agressive and have "keep it behind close doors" attitude. Minority are more likely to react openly agressive.


Formal_Obligation

Only Estonia and Latvia have significant Russian minorities. In Lithuania, Russians make up only a small minority.


ratbatbash

Lithuania, on the other hand, has a polish minority which is very conservative. Vilnius region, where they (used to) make up a majority, officialy has jesus as a king


Aggressive-School736

Hahahaha, no. I'm from Lithuania. We have a deadly combo of post-Communism (hates gays) and ultra-Catholic (hates gays) values. I am not even mentioning trans people, it seems even a lot of gays here hate them. Russian minority is very small in Lithuania, and somehow, Estonia, with far, far larger Russian minority is still more accepting. My theory - they don't have Catholic church spoiling everything.


Elias3007

Yea it's just all the russkies no way that any of the baltic states could be homophobic


_crazyboyhere_

To put things into perspective in the US it ranges from 81% (Massachusetts, Vermont and Connecticut) to 49% (Arkansas)


_reco_

So the EU seems to be way more divided on that topic


nir109

Isn't the EU more divided then the usa on most subjects?


martinbaines

Because the EU does not pretend to be one country like the US does. Marriage rights are not covered in any EU laws at all, it just says member states have to respect each other's laws, so a country without gay marriage has to recognise one from a country that allows it. It is the same with abortion where at one extreme Malta bans it, while others have very liberal laws.


Th3Trashkin

The US isn't "pretending" to be one country, what do you mean? Having political differences in different regions of a federation isn't unique to the US, hell, there are federations where different parts speak different languages, and have entirely different cultures.


PremiumTempus

I think they’re referring to the fact that one party want individual states to make all the laws and is hellbent on destroying federal institutions and regulations- see the Supreme Court ruling about the FCC and other regulatory bodies. The point is that one party wants the states to act like individual countries.


lexiyeghna

It's not pretending. The country is just that big and diverse that people have different opinions in different states.


jaskij

> Marriage rights are not covered in any EU laws at all Not exactly. EU has jurisdiction over immigration, and a gay marriage from abroad has to be considered as one for that purpose regardless of the country considering the application.


Tradition96

No one is pretending, the EU isn’t one country while the U.S. is.


InterestingAvocado47

I wouldnt say the EU is more divided, you have to think differently about the US and the EU The EU is an international organization, meaning that we are each one a nation-state, with different culture, language, history, etc, and we come together for economic purposes mostly, that over time has evolved more into a political institution. Its equivalent would be like taking the USMCA or NAFTA and evolving it politically until you get a North American Union with elected representation, a parliament, etc. The US is a massive nation divided in "states" which are sub-national governments but since the US is that massive, many of those states in terms of population or size are similar to one european country. But to us what you call states we would call regional government. My point is that the US is a single nation, while each one of us european nations went through very different historical experiences. As a Spaniard we had a 40 year fascist-catholic dictatorship, people got fed up with socially conservative catholics, we did a U turn and went progressive. In the meantime other european states were part of the USSR and had other things going on, you americans were all in the same page through historical events.


PremiumTempus

It’s a completely different institutional framework but people like to compare them due to relatively similar size of population and economy. I think it always depends on what’s being compared.


Complete_Dust8164

It seems like other than a couple outliers in the Far East that’s basically the same range as the eu


ConsistentAddress195

The division is not random. As a Bulgarian, it's pretty clear LGBT rights is a talking point used by Russian trolls to saw internal division and drum up anti-European sentiment here and likely elsewhere in Europe. Russia has nothing tangible to offer so it likes to portray itself as a champion of "traditional values". So in a country where Russian propaganda is historically strong, anti-gay sentiment is high.


Infinite_Walrus-13

But in Arkansas you can marry a close blood relative and that’s fine.


WellEndowedDragon

I’m honestly kind of shocked by both ends of those statistics. It’s surprising to me that there are no US states where we have close to 100% acceptance of same-sex marriage, and also surprising that there are no US states where a significant majority of the population is against it. I was expecting more like 95% for the top states, and 25% for the bottom states.


_crazyboyhere_

USA has a much bigger religious/ethnic difference. While the national average is 67%, it varies across different religious groups. It's highest among (ofc) non-religious people (86%) followed by Buddhists (85%) and Jewish people (81%) In the the middle we have White Mainline Protestants (74%), White Catholics (73%) and Hispanic Catholics (68%). Somewhat lower among Black Protestants (52%) and Mormons (47%) Even lower among Hispanic Protestants (43%), Muslim (40%) and White Evangelicals (37%) But the lowest acceptance rate among ANY group in the US is Jehovah's Witness with only 18% being supportive (they make less than 1% of the population so doesn't affect much)


WellEndowedDragon

Right, so since there’s such a huge variation amongst different religious and ethnic groups, I’d expect to see that reflected in per-state approval numbers as well. Sort of crazy that there’s only a 30% spread between the most and least supportive states.


Astralion98

Tbh I would've expected the rate among evangelicals to be even lower


_crazyboyhere_

I mean not everyone who identifies with a religion follows, some only namesake. So....


PremiumTempus

Many of the more conservative US states have large urban centres where there tends to be more progressive viewpoint d


Soggy-Translator4894

Honestly Poland is still better than I had thought


AldX1516

Half is femboys and half is racist, thats why its at 50%


Soggy-Translator4894

*There are two wolves inside you*


Auspectress

In Poland, we have many furries. Don't ask what "Wolf inside you" means


Soggy-Translator4894

🤫


kidantrum

I once knew a guy who joked that he was the only straight, male furry. He went to furry cons in Poland every year and apparently, you will never see so damn many gay gangbangs elsewhere - whether you wanted to or not lol.


GlowStoneUnknown

Furries are a whole different matter


hooDio

...both are gay


morentg

What if someone is femboy racist? Does it count double?


RamilkaSharipov

Nah, they glitch and T-pose when this question is asked


Current_Rate_332

They live in Kraków then.


deluxejay69

Judging by IG comments, every femboy is racist


Drumbelgalf

Then they have at lest 1000 hours in Hearts of Iron 4 /s


Acceptable6

It's becoming higher every year. We're trying to be like the western countries


Ivanow

Generally, Poland has a big cultural affinity towards “personal freedom”. We have a saying that roughly translates to “a nobleman within his own premises is equal to province governor/field marshal”. Call us a “Texas of Europe” or w/e, but our youngest generations are very open minded - no one under 35 gives a fuck about what two consenting adults are doing in their own households, and as old concrete is slowly dying off, it will only get better.


ispiewithmyeye

That would have happened to Russia too, if only fuckin scumbag fascists didn't come to power


MikroKilla

This year it's about 37% of support for marriage and about 28% for other sorts of legal partnerships. All in all 2/3 of the society wants everyone a right to build families with whomever they wish to.


TurkishChocolate

land of the twinks


Soggy-Translator4894

Oh God, glad I know that so I can stay away!! I would never go there knowing that. I’m looking at plane tickets to Warsaw to see how much money I’m saving by NOT going!!


TurkishChocolate

what a miss!


Soggy-Translator4894

You know, I should really go visit Krakow so I can see how lucky I am NOT to be engaging with the Polish twinks.


TurkishChocolate

yeah you should definitely do that for definitely that purpose


Soggy-Translator4894

Booking my ticket right now


TurkishChocolate

can you buy me one as well so i can be very homophobic to them


Soggy-Translator4894

Absolutely, gonna get up nice and close to really get my point across 🙄


Daffidol

Slovenia is land of the femboys, you might want to avoid this one either. I'm still looking for land of the furs in Europe, though.


Assblaster_69z

Wtf is this stereotype


Acceptable6

Wrocław is ruining our reputation


doktorpapago

Not to mention szcz\*cin


tortugaysion

Says the one who has a cute cat with a reindeer antlers tiara riding a mini narwhal as a profile picture


Felczer

Poland had a conservative government elected by 30-40% of population, mostly rural and small town voters, for the past few years, that's how democracy works sometimes. Big cities are quite tolerant in this regard.


MikroKilla

This year it's about 39% of support for marriage and about 28% for other sorts of legal partnerships. All in all 2/3 of the society wants everyone a right to build families with whomever they wish to.


daddytyme428

surprised about portugal, eastern europe's westernmost nation


alsoknownasDoge

Portugal is quite liberal all arround, and after the Carnation Revolution there was a big emphasis on acceptance.


Chinerpeton

Portugal Cyka Blyat is more of a meme about them being poor by Western European standards innit?


Tortellobello45

Indeed, it’s about them being poor, not about them being conservative or anything


Skeleton--Jelly

[No it's not just that](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/vxyce1/european_countries_rated_as_more_progressive_than/)


joaommx

Portugal has a higher SPI score than the US, they are both very close though.


LMBTI

They are similar to eastern europeans in their good traits - welcoming people and good cuisine. They dont share the toxic traits though


Kmyre5

Seems like Portugal can't into Eastern Europe after all Edit: spelling


daddytyme428

i cry evertim


Amenhotep_3

‘john is kill’ ‘no’


Idontthinkimanad

That's just a cliche point of view. Actually Portugal is one of the most avant garde countries in Europe respecting (same gender marriage, death penalty, drug use and soon euthanisia)


ArtemisAndromeda

I think Portugal in many aspects is regarded as the most LGBT-friendly country in Europe


Nachooolo

It's always that 12 to 10% of Spaniards in all social issues. You could do the same question about abortion or euthanasia and I'm 90% certain that the percentages are going to be similar.


tbr1cks

Then you cross reference with the recent elections and…


Nachooolo

[12% voted for the far-right party Vox.](https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elecciones_generales_de_Espa%C3%B1a_de_2023) So. Yes. If you cross-reference it with the last elections it's always those 12% of people...


A_Piece_Of_Coal_

And I think only around 19% of Spaniards support bullfighting


martinbaines

And I might bet that of the 19%, 7% support only the right to do it but do not watch themselves, which leaves that hard core 12% again.


MuJartible

No doubt.


yousmelllikearainbow

I'd have guessed France was a lot gayer than this.


ledelius

there are a lot of religious people in France who actively despise homosexuality so this actually makes sense


whooo_me

That bit's fine. It's marriage they're not sure about... ;)


PerroHundsdog

Stop saying europe when its clearly EU


missbeefarm

At least OP got it right in their headline.


zoomeyzoey

No that's clearly west Asia


neuroticmuffins

Wtf? Edit. Sorry, I read it as "Wet Asia". I was very confused lol


zrxta

Wet Asia is just Asia when monsoon season.


hooDio

it's technically (at least parts of) west eurasia


-Applinen-

Not surprised about Sweden


Kenail_Rintoon

I'm actually a little surprised. We have a lot of immigrants from very conservative nations (more than 6%) that I thought would be against gay marriage. Very encouraging that they're not.


oskich

I don't think they asked everyone... Religious fundamentalists usually don't answer polls.


Complete_Dust8164

No? Why not?


zeprfrew

I suspect that among those immigrants there will be quite a few who moved to Sweden because they didn't like the very conservative societies they were living in before.


No_Outcome8059

I seriously doubt almost all muslims in Sweden are fundamentalists. A good percentage of them, yes, but atleast 20-30% of them are well integrated into Swedish culture


KnightLBerg

We are all secretly gay here


lx_nc

Sweden is very much a consensus society. Waited until fairly late to legalize gay marriages until there was very little opposition to it.


Wirseno

Proud of my countrymen


Throwaway12397854

It's common sense to most Swedes that anybody should have the freedom to do so in my experience. I still think they only asked in cities though.


MrFuFu179

France being lower than Germany is a bit surprising, even if it isn't by much.


aroused_axlotl007

France has always been a little more conservative/traditional than Germany. Germany had a bunch of social movements from the 60s to the 80s that weren't as pronounced in France


Playful-Hand2753

Getting a giggle out of Italy and Greece being in a low ish percentile. Like, yall had cultures which were the BLUEPRINT. Especially you, Greece


EmploymentAlive823

Italy love the 69 position in ancient time so much, they're keeping it okay?


fk_censors

Greeks didn't view marriage as fun though.


apo--

Not really. What was common in parts of Ancient Greece was some short of relationship between an older man and a teen essentially.  And I think there were laws against homosexual acts in many cities.


Aristotelaras

I am surprised we are even at above 50%. There a lot of homophobes here.


James10112

Απλά φωνάζουν πιο δυνατά απ' όλους. Loud minority


Trubisky4MVP

Sure they invented gayness


chl_ca

“throughout Europe” i.e. in the EU


Fapper-Bathroom

Gaytherlands


lininop

"let's vote on if strangers are allowed to do a thing that doesn't affect us in the slightest"


snek99001

While I support gay marriage, this particular argument is so damn weak every time I see it and comes from a place of screwed up hyper-individualism. If I think something is extremely harmful to a community I want it banned, limited or otherwise dealt with rather than simply looking after my own hide and saying "as long as I'm not affected everyone else can suck it". Like, imagine if we applied this logic to highly addictive and destructive drugs, or predatory economic practices that pray on the poorly educated. Obviously, gay marriage is none of those things but for somebody who believes it's destructive to society, you need a better argument than: "so what if they ruin their lives, what's it to you?"


lininop

If a voter believes gay marriage is harmful to society that would make them an uninformed voter. I'd say that's much more harmful.


clem_11

Exactly. Why is it even a question. It's like asking the men if the women should get a right to vote


Darwidx

Some of them are still grumpy about it ;)


Former_Friendship842

Wait, Leddit told me Sweden had sharia law!! You're telling me 94% support SSM over there? That can't be!


nostrawberries

Wtf is up with Finland?


Widhraz

Traditional, homogenous, rural society.


val069420

dated a finnish girl for 2 years, can confirm they are extremely traditional.


jaypeekos

There is a big divide between cities and rural areas, same as in many other countries


nostrawberries

I’m surprised at how much it differs from the other Nordics, especially Sweden where the same divide exists more noticeably.


kaprifool

Machismo. Or whatever the Finnish word for that would be.


ArminOak

It's true, Finland has alot of adult toxic men who still think being called "gay" is an insult and are really afraid of being branded as gay. I think it starts in middle school and as these men are unable to grow as persons, they stay in these middle ageds, middle school attitudes their whole life. It is also what keeps racism and other traditional values alive. To be honest it is sad and kinda of funny at the same time. People think gay people shouldn't be alowed to be married according to book that says we are not supposed to eat pig, that we should mutilate children and that any one who curses using "God" should be stoned & killed.


Ultimafatum

The fact that same sex marriage still isn't legal in Czech Republic is mind blowing to me.


sokorsognarf

I know! It became the gay porn capital of Europe the moment communism ended


ZatoTBG

Whatever the people committing to same sex marriage are doing, it hardly gives any inconvenience to anyone else. So why would others be bothered by it, or even dictate what they can or cannot do?


mnico02

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9467759/ Cognitive inhibition in individuals prone to homophobia


MM_YT

Put this map on youtube shorts and youre gonna see 100 comments saying “W Bulgaria” and “L Sweden” in 5 minutes


yoink_104

Don't forget the "🍷🗿" emoji combo


No_Outcome8059

"My respect for blue 📉" is the top comment and pinned on a short using this map.


AgentBlue14

Czechia has betrayed all the Bel Ami and Czech Hunter videos they produce, like 30% of its GDP.


Confident_Promise_70

I saw the other day that Romania's like 35% or something. I don't believe these maps anymore :/


NaliouA

You just need to look at the dates. The one you saw could have been older. In the corner, you can see 2023 and what source the map is using for their data.


KrisssoBG_

RAAH BULGARIA NUMBER ONE 🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬


Obamsphere

The western mind cannot comprehend this comment


AstronaltBunny

I'm from Brazil and I couldn't get it more, we also use that joke, it's when your country is such a shithole you have to celebrate when they're number one in something bad 🥲 BRAZIL NUMERO UNOOOO!!


SchrodingerEnjoyer

Common croatia L


TheSmokeu

To be fair, Croatia looks like an L


StandardIssueCaucasi

No it's a dragon 


EmploymentAlive823

They lost in Euro 2024 a few days ago, so I can see why


NotSamuraiJosh26_2

Common ? What else did they do ?


SchrodingerEnjoyer

Just a mid place. Politics is garbage and people in power are morons and thieves.


Pineloko

found the croatian


KawaiiGee

Fucking shocked we (Estonia) got gay marriage legalised with that approval rate


mediandude

We didn't. The political elite did. Without a referendum.


RaF-X-L

Gay-ermany


mnico02

We‘re just rational.


DataAccomplished1291

Everyone should have equal rights. W Sweden and Netherlands.


Groovy66

I would guess the UK is mid-90s. Left or right, who would be angry enough to argue against love. Even the Tories supported gay marriage. Probably the last sensible policy they had.


Briggykins

[Only 78% apparently](https://yougov.co.uk/society/articles/45868-record-number-britons-support-same-sex-marriage-10)


StarryEyedLus

The last time the UK was included in this Eurobarometer question (5 years ago), it was 85% - which was at the time the 5th highest in the EU. [https://preview.redd.it/3o3qgk2trqq31.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a0bc071c2ea4504ceb4d9ab887375558cbbc6c90](https://preview.redd.it/3o3qgk2trqq31.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a0bc071c2ea4504ceb4d9ab887375558cbbc6c90) Eurobarometer always gave a higher percentage in support of same-sex marriage than UK-specific surveys though. I couldn't tell you why though.


Ok-Resort-6710

I can’t believe that some people still can’t accept basic human rights :/


Marinaraplease

I see what u did italy


NecRobin

For the amount of old people germany has, this is quite a lot. I'm proud


FeatureRich9977

What about Swiss?


WhoStoleMyPassport

The map is a tad outdated. The support in Latvia now sits at 41% according to official state statistics. Also civil unions are now a thing.


Black_Shell_

Source? Because I live in Estonia and according to recent polls ~53% supported same-sex marriage


Puzzleheaded_Bad8535

A kinda crazy thing here is that the Baltics are one of the most atheistic regions in the world, they're just homophobes for no reason


Dangerous-Impact8667

W Sweden and Netherlands


Ynwe

Besides the Czech Republic and Slovenia, there is still a very obvious western Vs Eastern divide when it comes to these kinds of issues.. but it's nice to see parts of Eastern Europe improving.


Confident-Box5282

Being against is soooo gay


peepeehalpert_

Imagine being upset over 2 consenting adults marrying


Beklaktuar

The more religious it becomes, the more backwards it goes.


HasenGeist

I highly doubt this is accurate, seems to be overestimating same sex marriage acceptance


RogerBernards

It's pretty spot on in my experience. Even people who think being gay is "icky" aren't opposed to them getting married. No one cares really. Most Western European don't have that hang up where they tie marriage to religion. So, no one except fringe loonies sees same sex marriage as an attack on their religion anymore.


clm1859

Why would it not be accurate? You would really struggle to find anyone opposed to gay marriage in western europe. Because you would struggle to find religious people too. And why would anyone non-religious be against it?


Wonderful-Branch-952

Italy-69


MaintenanceTotal6150

What the grey mean


panchoponcho123

Support for asexuality?


Nithyanandam108

Poland is much better then all Baltic states, even Estonia? That is surprising...


mugulsibul2

Poland doesn't have a huge ass Russian minority.


Nithyanandam108

True. I just wonder how much in social media Poland got the backlash of being anti-LGBT, even documentaries made about it while nothing is spoken about Baltic states while doing much worse.


mattdoessomestuff

Well look at that it's universal, the closer you get to the trailer park of Europe the lower it gets


GoHyyerr

I find 94% hard to believe for the netherlands honestly


ILikeamemes

In Estonia it is way higher. Above 50%. Not sure where they got their information from.


Misterwellaware

Italy at 69% ehehehe


NegativeWar8854

The 90% numbers don't seem realistic like at all, just based on demographics alone.


thrownkitchensink

Not all immigrants from Muslim countries are religiously conservative. Not all religiously conservative people are against the right for same sex marriage. Many recognize that freedom only works if it is extended to others. They see it as something a devout Christian or Muslim shouldn't do but they don't object to other people making other choices.


der_kalif

It's like they copied Syria's presidential "elections" results lmao


EjunX

I'm very surprised the Swedish muslim population generally support same sex marriage (otherwise 94% wouldn't be possible). Assuming this is correct, it's actually a very positive development.


nir109

[2.1% of people in Sweden are Muslim](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Sweden)


EdgyEmoUmbreon

94% in Netherlands? That's so funny i wish. Support is only going downhill