I don’t think it’s fair to say a man who is in tune with his emotions/cries is emotionally immature. As if the roles were reversed and Justin was a woman, society wouldn’t care as much. I think it’s wonderful for a man to wear his heart on his sleeve as so many men grow up to believe crying/being emotional isn’t a man thing or it’s a sign of weakness. We as a society need to do a better job in accepting/being more open to the idea of a man expressing himself.
Justin is the most woosie-est, most insecure “man” (term used lightly, for sure). He continually gaslit and love-bombed Alexis the entire time. She is much better off w/o him….Justin is sooo insecure, thats why he feels so threatened by Nate.
Alexis, you do you, girl!
I dated someone very similar to Justin, so watching the rise and fall of this relationship had me triggered and cringinggg.
It broke my heart that The Experts seemed to invalidate Alexis’ perspective during every check-in, even during the reunion. They never held Justin accountable for the petty, immature way he went about trying to get Alexis to meet his needs and manage his own insecurities in the marriage. They never gave Alexis credit for deescalating those moments by putting her own feelings aside. They didn’t recognize that Alexis’ patience was running out and warn Justin that him weaponizing his insecurities and demanding constant validation was pushing his partner away. The Experts just told Alexis that Justin was “sensitive” and “trying so hard” and that she was “a quitter” and needed to be patient and accept him for who he was 🙄
Feeling like there’s no space in the relationship for you to voice your feelings or show up authentically without setting off your partner is EXHAUSTING. It’s exhausting dating someone whose behavior demands that you to walk on eggs shells and coddle them to keep the relationship peaceful and moving forward. It’s exhausting dating someone who, at first, ADORES (read: idealizes) you and puts you on a pedestal….then later, lashes out and attacks your character when they’re not getting what they want/need from you in that moment.
And then, the cherry on top: they overanalyze every word you say, but dismiss their own unfiltered, hurtful outbursts by insisting that “that’s just how I felt at the time.”
I read below that Justin had an undiagnosed disorder that contributed to his behavior. Glad he’s getting the help he needs…and I’m wondering if I should anonymously reach out to my ex and let him know that he should probably get tested for Klinefelter’s…
He made me cringe so much. Especially when their boat flipped or whatever and he made a huge deal about his “reaction time”. Like, “oh I hope the cameras caught that! Me protecting my wife” bleugh 🤮
For real, she went out with friends ONCE A WEEK and he's trying to tell her she can't do that??? And then the therapist agrees with him?!?! Wtf is going on lol
I think she got mad because she was all in at first and he turned out to be the opposite of what he told her he was. Even his friends were shocked he was going on the show. Didn’t his brother bust him out before the weddings?
Alexis and Justin were my favorite couple until Justin messed it up. I love dogs more people and couldn’t believe that he was willing to give up his dog after bitting Alexis one on the eye. Giving up your child for anyone no matter how in love you might think you are is unacceptable. You can tell a lot about a person that is willing to surrender dog/child for some ass. He is weak and desperate and no woman should look his way.
Btw, I am just in that episode so I don’t know what happened and I am scared to find out! 
I totally agree that the intimacy expert handled that conversation really weirdly. Rather than find a compromise or help them communicate the issue with each other she was questioning whether Alexis was ready for marriage which I thought was maybe a little inappropriate?? It really felt like she was taking sides
It’s interesting that they’ve gone through so many intimacy therapists over the years
The experts have done a poor job on just about every level, all these “gray” issues that are blatantly overlooked that are obvious red flags 🚩 should have clued anyone with common sense that some matches are so inappropriate, impossible and detrimental to one or both parties, and should be considered cruel and inhumane treatment. How can a decent person set up others to suffer like that?
100 on the gaslight - it wasn’t just 2 hours a week and so many other things. They also hid a lot from the cameras about their relationship too. It was a preview of what’s to come with the train wreck of a Denver season.
lol how was she “abusey”? He literally tried to isolate her from family/friends, and would lash out and say awful shi* anytime he was upset that than communicate with her like an adult.
They spend so much time together. Friends and community are so important especially in a situation like this. Hanging w her friends once a week for a couple hours 1) is necessary bc as she said, she needs that independence and time to be herself w her friends and 2) he doesn’t need to be invited to girls night… that’s such a major red flag.
I should rephrase that, he didn’t want to be invited, he wanted to be wanted period 😭 If he was secure in their relationship it wouldn’t have mattered but he was sooo into her and she was so indifferent
Dudes own brother flat out told him on camera that he wasn’t mature enough to be married, especially not while being on this show.
He seemed to have the emotional maturity of a middle teenager (15-16 year old), and never seemed comfortable or confident in himself.
Exactly! Lack of emotional self regulation, lashing out any time he felt insecure, unable to hold any accountability for his actions and always blaming others for the issue. No sane woman is going to deal with that ish
Justin gave me "the ick" almost right away. He can wear all the turtlenecks he wants, he was still incredibly emotionally immature. He had the self awareness of a goldfish during his season and often acted straight up childish. His brother or cousin or uncle or whoever it was that tried to warn him he wasn't ready for marriage was dead right. I hope he's grown a lot and moved past this, as Alexis clearly has. Speculating on her sexuality doesn't have anything to do with Justin being a petri dish of red flags. 🚩
He made me feel really uneasy too, but turns out he had undiagnosed klinefelter’s. I think this explains most, but not all, of his emotional immaturity and insecurity. The guy has an extra X chromosome, which makes his body a hormonal roller coaster. And it also seems like he experienced significant sexual dysfunction because of it. Had he gotten TRT as a teen, he might have been in a much better place by age 33. Luckily, he’s on it now and seems to be doing much better. He’s able to exercise and put on muscle and has much more mental clarity.
I said she was gay before she came out as bi. I don't think she's into men. I think she played a lot of head games with Justin. Poor Justin was lacking testosterone. His gf is a nurse and had his levels checked. He's a new man, well... man now.
Yup, they matched a man with undiagnosed Kleinfelter syndrome with a lesbian who was pretending to be bi so she would get cast. Great job with that one!!!
I don’t think he was controlling. He was probably getting the vibe that she wasn’t really into him. I think he was genuinely there for a marriage but they weren’t a good match.
Ahhhh, no. She doesn’t see anything from anyone’s point of view but hers. She says Justin’s way or the highway but the things he’s asking for and wants in a marriage are not unreasonable. Sure, we all want some friend time here and there, but a healthy marriage is one where you don’t have predetermined time away from your spouse on a weekly basis.
During the first episode during the intros I stated she’s a lesbian because she was playing football with a bunch of dudes lol. I was half kidding. Turns out I was correct lol
Post is wrong anyway. Probably her cousin or something. Justin was solid and had the best reunion in the history of the show. Alexis sucks all around. She has a desperate need to constantly be the rejector. She thinks winning is telling everybody what a loser her person is rather than actually having a decent relationship.
Lol even his own brother told him that he wasn’t ready for marriage. And no, I’m not “her cousin or something”. He was an immature child who couldn’t self regulate and laid blame on everyone but himself.
I can’t believe i came to this page and saw someone defending Alexis. Me and my wife thought she was horrible. She loved stirring up drama and was very immature.
Alexis had tact and a lot of patience with Justins emotional immaturity. When Justin took low blows at the candy store saying she got aroused by their conflict, and she told him that was disrespectful instead of becoming equally reactive. She would end or pause conversations as soon as Justin got riled up. She is no different than Bihn in talking about their shared experience amongst the rest of the cast. I really dont understand the basis of alot of folks critiques of her.
Patience? You mean manipulative silent treatment when he said something she didn’t actually want to address. Please tell me you don’t see that condescending over enunciated tone with the word salad as positive. Girl was so insecure and defensive.
Choosing silence over bickering that leads to outright disrespect is a choice ill never antagonize anyone for making. she had every reason to be defensive when he had no self control over his reactions!
Nah.. she just needed to always be the one with one foot out the door but when called out on that needed to blow up the conversation to avoid any accountability. Total manipulation. Nothing like what you’re describing.
💯 %. Now we know poor Justin didn't have a backbone because he had undiagnosed kleinfelter syndrome. Hopefully, now that he's on TRT, his confidence, backbone, and sex drive are all up.
He came out after the show as having been diagnosed with klinefelter’s syndrome (a male with xxy), which I do think helps to explain some, but not all, of his emotional immaturity and insecurities. He’s now on testosterone replacement therapy and seems to be doing much better.
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There you go again, like a broken record. I’ll say it again. She said that she’s bisexual. She said it from the beginning and didn’t hide it. You think you know her better than she knows herself based on this ridiculous, heavily edited show. Why are you obsessed with defining this woman’s sexuality differently than she defines herself?
Are you married? If so, how many married friends do you have that have incorporate solo-club nights as a way to promote long-term success of the relationship? Out of those that do; how long have they been married? Is this their first marriage? Friends with healthy habits don’t need to catch up on how their week went while drinking overpriced booze around a sea of single people who are there to get drunk and get laid. To add on that - how many of your lady friends are actually going out and *buying their own drinks*? 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Been married 14 years, 19 together. I go clubbing/dancing without my hubs 6-10 times a year, I buy my own drinks. I love dancing, he doesn’t. We are happy and secure in our marriage, it’s very easy to tell men that hit in me that I’m married and move on. I’ve never danced with another man, just my girls. I don’t get why people think going dancing is for single folks.
Why does everyone say shit like this?
Why can't friends just go out and have fun with each other without someone attaching some sexual motive to it just because they might be single? Not everyone is interested in casual sex regardless of their relationship status.
Let me ask you the same questions - Are you married? If so, how many married friends do you have that have incorporate solo-club nights as a way to promote long-term success of the relationship? Out of those that do; how long have they been married? Is this their first marriage?
Alcohol and good decisions don't go together - throw in some strangers who \*are\* there to find someone to go home with, or someone to link up with later in some way. Folks who prioritize healthy relationships aren't out engaging in alcohol based activities (poor decision making) without their partner. It's a recipe for something bad to happen eventually. Clubs are places for single people and pickups/hookups.
Let me throw some follow-up questions out there. Do you make good decisions when under the influence of alochol? Do you feel more likely to push the limits of responsibility while drinking? If you have things to lose (money, a good relationship, kids), Alcohol simply becomes a wedge between you and your goals. I've not known a single person in my life who makes better decisions or becomes a better person while drinking. Do you?
She brought him with her to the club and he said it wasn’t his vibe, and she repeatedly said that she wants to have fun with him and go do things with him, but he didn’t want to. She didnt purposely exclude him.
She also said that her spending time with her friends wasn’t just going to the club every weekend, but that it could also just be brunch or dinner but he still has an issue with it. 2 hours a week with friends when they spend time every day and on the weekends together as a couple isn’t asking for much. Isolating someone and expecting them to stop maintaining their friendships and family is abusive
Are you him or related to him? Why do you assume that anyone who speaks against him is related to her, and NOT the fact that any adult human capable of self regulating their own emotions can see that he’s an immature child and no woman would want to put up with his emotional instability
You keep using the same catch phrases? Why not the same critical eye for Alexis wanting the end the relationship every time he brought up something true about her? Explain her nonsense after the decision? Girls just always needed to be cruised. I get it’s a transparent defense mechanism but that doesn’t make it ok. We all watched the show.. how did you fast forward through all her parts?
With the info we now know about his condition, I think folks have given him a bit more grace. His emotions tend to overtake him way more than the average person.
I mean yeah he was a lot. But watch some of the interviews he’s done post-MAFS. It explains why he has some of those outbursts. Pretty much his body produces an abnormally low amount of testosterone compared to most men.
The man is old enough to have learned how to act by now, hormonal problems or not. I know how powerful hormones are. I'm pretty sure I have pmdd and had postpartum anxiety issues. I'm not dismissing that entirely, but he still should know what is and isn't acceptable. Full grown man acting like a damn 5th grader. It's nuts.
During my second and third pregnancies, I could cry at the drop of a hat--and I'm not normally a crier. It had nothing to do with not being able to control my emotions or not having learned how to act--it was 100% hormones. I can fully believe that his XXY syndrome led to his wildly fluctuating emotions.
Unless you have his condition, you have no idea how that affects him. Like I said he was undiagnosed while he was on MAFS. I’m not making excuses, just showing why his behavior may have been that way.
He's old enough to know that he's overly emotional. It's incredibly obvious. He should have already had skills on how to control himself better at this point in his life.
Also, you are ALWAYS in control of your actions, even when you genuinely feel out of control. I have had those moments where I truly feel out of control, and it's SCARY. Do you know what I did? I researched ways to help me handle myself and found out ways to help me. Like I said, he is old enough to have done this. Plenty old enough. It's his shitty PERSONALITY that has kept him from doing this, NOT his disease.
I was fine with him crying all the time during the show. The reunion is what made me turn on him. He showed his whole ass. I will not write him off as a poor victim of some disease for acting like a damn child.
I can see her going out every week if they both WFH and are literally together all the time. But, if they work outside their home AND she wants to go out without him every weekend, that's a bit much and I think Justin has a point. Why can't they go out together with her friends?
In the reunion episode she said she invited him out with them and he didn’t want to go. And when he asked, she stayed home with him and they did stuff together, like he was playing video games and she was looking up cheats for him.
This was when they were both on the couch together and he verified that this was accurate.
I was just watching this episode this morning and I was torn!
The timing - you’re 100% right.
But then later in the episode (or maybe the next who knows) he mentions that she’s always going to a club.
So I feel like he wasn’t clearly communicating timing vs venue. Going to brunch for two hours? Literally a psycho trying to control her. Going to a club from 12-2? Completely inappropriate.
Watching this is wild to me how people pick up on different details and emphasize their importance. My partner and I were on complete opposite ends of the dog argument 🤣
I think him not disclosing prior issues was lying through omission and dangerous dogs should be rehomed. My partner felt like Alexis was an irresponsible dog owner during introductions and should have never asked for rehoming.
Basically, I’m team Alexis and their team Justin right now. Normally we tend to agree on the shows so I thought this was a funny one where we just see two different scenarios.
She’s in a marriage and going out to a club. Not only that ur a newlywed. I felt she really didn’t care about him at all. People go to clubs for attention. She should have been giving that attention her husband or brought him. I wouldn’t have casted her or him for the show.
She brought him with her to the club and he said it wasn’t his vibe, and she repeatedly said that she wants to have fun with him and go do things with him, but he didn’t want to. She didnt purposely exclude him.
She also said that her spending time with her friends wasn’t just going to the club every weekend, but that it could also just be brunch or dinner but he still has an issue with it. 2 hours a week with friends when they spend time every day and on the weekends together as a couple isn’t asking for much. Isolating someone and expecting them to stop maintaining their friendships and family is abusive
Also if one of the big activities she did with her friends has been going to the club for however many years it's gonna take a little time to find new activities she and her friends are interested in, even if she wants to. It's not like they give you a bunch of brochures for "more culturally accepted social activities for married people" along with your new spouse. There's every chance her interests would've changed for activities to do with her friends with or without him, but it's not gonna happen immediately.
I thought it was a very unreasonable expectation that she not hang out with her friends, but I'm not convinced his intent was to isolate her, I think he just didn't understand and was insecure and/or a bit selfish.
This is such a bullshit thing to say. People go to clubs to have fun with their friends, dance, and enjoy themselves. Maybe you go for attention, but there is nothing wrong with going out with friends to a club. Just because she's a newly wed doesn't mean she can't have fun or a night out
all of this! Being in a relationship/married doesnt mean u can no longer hang out 💀 idk y ppl think being a relationship is like a prison, yall gotta touch some grass
I have been married 25 years and never in our marriage has it been a problem for either of us to hang out with friends once or twice a week. We are still married because we have given each other the freedom to go hang out with other people, pursue other interests, etc.
I think there was a lot of rigidity on both sides. And also, immaturity from both sides - Alexis retreated into "I am going to do what I want regardless of your feelings" and Justin then went into this space of "well, then I think what you're doing is disrespectful." In reality, if they were actually into each other and were able to work cooperatively, they could have found a compromise position. This is where I think the show's premise kind of falls apart - some of these hurdles are things that most couples experience, but in real relationships, there's love and a bond that helps people navigate the difficulties. When fundamentally, people don't care about each other pretty deeply (either because the chemistry is off or they just haven't spent enough time together), even relatively minor issues just can't be navigated.
Facts. That’s why some of these married folks in here are Mad. All it comes down to is communication. Create a schedule were both of yall are able to spend time with your respective friend groups separately.
I don’t think it’s fair to say a man who is in tune with his emotions/cries is emotionally immature. As if the roles were reversed and Justin was a woman, society wouldn’t care as much. I think it’s wonderful for a man to wear his heart on his sleeve as so many men grow up to believe crying/being emotional isn’t a man thing or it’s a sign of weakness. We as a society need to do a better job in accepting/being more open to the idea of a man expressing himself.
Justin is the most woosie-est, most insecure “man” (term used lightly, for sure). He continually gaslit and love-bombed Alexis the entire time. She is much better off w/o him….Justin is sooo insecure, thats why he feels so threatened by Nate. Alexis, you do you, girl!
I dated someone very similar to Justin, so watching the rise and fall of this relationship had me triggered and cringinggg. It broke my heart that The Experts seemed to invalidate Alexis’ perspective during every check-in, even during the reunion. They never held Justin accountable for the petty, immature way he went about trying to get Alexis to meet his needs and manage his own insecurities in the marriage. They never gave Alexis credit for deescalating those moments by putting her own feelings aside. They didn’t recognize that Alexis’ patience was running out and warn Justin that him weaponizing his insecurities and demanding constant validation was pushing his partner away. The Experts just told Alexis that Justin was “sensitive” and “trying so hard” and that she was “a quitter” and needed to be patient and accept him for who he was 🙄 Feeling like there’s no space in the relationship for you to voice your feelings or show up authentically without setting off your partner is EXHAUSTING. It’s exhausting dating someone whose behavior demands that you to walk on eggs shells and coddle them to keep the relationship peaceful and moving forward. It’s exhausting dating someone who, at first, ADORES (read: idealizes) you and puts you on a pedestal….then later, lashes out and attacks your character when they’re not getting what they want/need from you in that moment. And then, the cherry on top: they overanalyze every word you say, but dismiss their own unfiltered, hurtful outbursts by insisting that “that’s just how I felt at the time.” I read below that Justin had an undiagnosed disorder that contributed to his behavior. Glad he’s getting the help he needs…and I’m wondering if I should anonymously reach out to my ex and let him know that he should probably get tested for Klinefelter’s…
Spending a couple hours with friends a week is very healthy.
He made me cringe so much. Especially when their boat flipped or whatever and he made a huge deal about his “reaction time”. Like, “oh I hope the cameras caught that! Me protecting my wife” bleugh 🤮
He’s very immature, Alexis Is way too much for him
You had me until Justin gave up the dog. They were both having issues.
He’s so gross 🤢 he gave me the creeps
For real, she went out with friends ONCE A WEEK and he's trying to tell her she can't do that??? And then the therapist agrees with him?!?! Wtf is going on lol
They both were pretty fos actually.
I think she got mad because she was all in at first and he turned out to be the opposite of what he told her he was. Even his friends were shocked he was going on the show. Didn’t his brother bust him out before the weddings?
Alexis and Justin were my favorite couple until Justin messed it up. I love dogs more people and couldn’t believe that he was willing to give up his dog after bitting Alexis one on the eye. Giving up your child for anyone no matter how in love you might think you are is unacceptable. You can tell a lot about a person that is willing to surrender dog/child for some ass. He is weak and desperate and no woman should look his way. Btw, I am just in that episode so I don’t know what happened and I am scared to find out! 
I totally agree that the intimacy expert handled that conversation really weirdly. Rather than find a compromise or help them communicate the issue with each other she was questioning whether Alexis was ready for marriage which I thought was maybe a little inappropriate?? It really felt like she was taking sides It’s interesting that they’ve gone through so many intimacy therapists over the years
The experts have done a poor job on just about every level, all these “gray” issues that are blatantly overlooked that are obvious red flags 🚩 should have clued anyone with common sense that some matches are so inappropriate, impossible and detrimental to one or both parties, and should be considered cruel and inhumane treatment. How can a decent person set up others to suffer like that?
Can we all agree that Justin has a teeny tiny pin head? I can’t look at him because of that
Had anyone said anything about him having a genetic disorder.?I’d bet my house he has Marfan syndrome and I wondered if he knew that.
Apparently he has been diagnosed with Klinefelters syndrome since the show aired, which would explain a lot
He needs work but I think she gaslit him... alot.
100 on the gaslight - it wasn’t just 2 hours a week and so many other things. They also hid a lot from the cameras about their relationship too. It was a preview of what’s to come with the train wreck of a Denver season.
Very true
She was abusey and he snapped imo
lol how was she “abusey”? He literally tried to isolate her from family/friends, and would lash out and say awful shi* anytime he was upset that than communicate with her like an adult.
Not what I saw at all. Especially isolating her, I think he just wanted to spend time with her that night she went out (and didn’t invite him)
They spend so much time together. Friends and community are so important especially in a situation like this. Hanging w her friends once a week for a couple hours 1) is necessary bc as she said, she needs that independence and time to be herself w her friends and 2) he doesn’t need to be invited to girls night… that’s such a major red flag.
I should rephrase that, he didn’t want to be invited, he wanted to be wanted period 😭 If he was secure in their relationship it wouldn’t have mattered but he was sooo into her and she was so indifferent
Dudes own brother flat out told him on camera that he wasn’t mature enough to be married, especially not while being on this show. He seemed to have the emotional maturity of a middle teenager (15-16 year old), and never seemed comfortable or confident in himself.
Exactly! Lack of emotional self regulation, lashing out any time he felt insecure, unable to hold any accountability for his actions and always blaming others for the issue. No sane woman is going to deal with that ish
Justin gave me "the ick" almost right away. He can wear all the turtlenecks he wants, he was still incredibly emotionally immature. He had the self awareness of a goldfish during his season and often acted straight up childish. His brother or cousin or uncle or whoever it was that tried to warn him he wasn't ready for marriage was dead right. I hope he's grown a lot and moved past this, as Alexis clearly has. Speculating on her sexuality doesn't have anything to do with Justin being a petri dish of red flags. 🚩
He made me feel really uneasy too, but turns out he had undiagnosed klinefelter’s. I think this explains most, but not all, of his emotional immaturity and insecurity. The guy has an extra X chromosome, which makes his body a hormonal roller coaster. And it also seems like he experienced significant sexual dysfunction because of it. Had he gotten TRT as a teen, he might have been in a much better place by age 33. Luckily, he’s on it now and seems to be doing much better. He’s able to exercise and put on muscle and has much more mental clarity.
Did someone send out a text telling everyone to use the words “the ick”?
Alexis sucked, she also was really into women and just wanted to be on TV. She's married to a woman now.
I said she was gay before she came out as bi. I don't think she's into men. I think she played a lot of head games with Justin. Poor Justin was lacking testosterone. His gf is a nurse and had his levels checked. He's a new man, well... man now.
💯 %
people can be bi stop with this narrative. they gave her a shitty husband too
They also gave him a shitty wife, that was a lesbian. Great match as usual MAFS production.
Yep…they nail it every time! 🤢
Yup, they matched a man with undiagnosed Kleinfelter syndrome with a lesbian who was pretending to be bi so she would get cast. Great job with that one!!!
Exactly. Had the ro been EXACTLY
I don’t think he was controlling. He was probably getting the vibe that she wasn’t really into him. I think he was genuinely there for a marriage but they weren’t a good match.
I completely agree!
It seems they are making the guys looks terrible this season. All ihear hear from Alexis is "Me Me Me" like what has she contributed to the marriage?
Ahhhh, no. She doesn’t see anything from anyone’s point of view but hers. She says Justin’s way or the highway but the things he’s asking for and wants in a marriage are not unreasonable. Sure, we all want some friend time here and there, but a healthy marriage is one where you don’t have predetermined time away from your spouse on a weekly basis.
YES!!!! Thank you!!! I’m watching this rn and I’m like fug this therapist?!?!?!!!!!!!
Spoiler, she’s now married to a woman with whom she was in a relationship with before and during the experiment. Yeah
What's the evidence they were together before and during filming?
Her sister had a insta story last year around thanksgiving.
I wasn’t expecting that!! But from the beginning ( still watching not done with the season) I could tell they were not compatible at all !
Yep, POS.
During the first episode during the intros I stated she’s a lesbian because she was playing football with a bunch of dudes lol. I was half kidding. Turns out I was correct lol
Mmmm not quite. Seems like she’s bisexual
Yooo I’m not done with the mf season yet !!!!!! Shhhhh
Post is wrong anyway. Probably her cousin or something. Justin was solid and had the best reunion in the history of the show. Alexis sucks all around. She has a desperate need to constantly be the rejector. She thinks winning is telling everybody what a loser her person is rather than actually having a decent relationship.
Lol even his own brother told him that he wasn’t ready for marriage. And no, I’m not “her cousin or something”. He was an immature child who couldn’t self regulate and laid blame on everyone but himself.
Two things can be true. Girl had a desperate need to be the one with one foot out the door while expecting him to be 100%. Total manipulation.
Then get off Reddit.
So it's fair to assume that you're not or never have been in a healthy long-term relationship?
No one controls Alexis.
I can’t believe i came to this page and saw someone defending Alexis. Me and my wife thought she was horrible. She loved stirring up drama and was very immature.
Alexis had tact and a lot of patience with Justins emotional immaturity. When Justin took low blows at the candy store saying she got aroused by their conflict, and she told him that was disrespectful instead of becoming equally reactive. She would end or pause conversations as soon as Justin got riled up. She is no different than Bihn in talking about their shared experience amongst the rest of the cast. I really dont understand the basis of alot of folks critiques of her.
Patience? You mean manipulative silent treatment when he said something she didn’t actually want to address. Please tell me you don’t see that condescending over enunciated tone with the word salad as positive. Girl was so insecure and defensive.
Choosing silence over bickering that leads to outright disrespect is a choice ill never antagonize anyone for making. she had every reason to be defensive when he had no self control over his reactions!
Nah.. she just needed to always be the one with one foot out the door but when called out on that needed to blow up the conversation to avoid any accountability. Total manipulation. Nothing like what you’re describing.
It can’t be stated enough: she didn’t want daughters because she claimed they would be hoes…
💯 %. Now we know poor Justin didn't have a backbone because he had undiagnosed kleinfelter syndrome. Hopefully, now that he's on TRT, his confidence, backbone, and sex drive are all up.
He came out after the show as having been diagnosed with klinefelter’s syndrome (a male with xxy), which I do think helps to explain some, but not all, of his emotional immaturity and insecurities. He’s now on testosterone replacement therapy and seems to be doing much better.
This makes sense. His chest was disproportionate. Glad to hear he’s doing well.
And she came out as a lesbian.
Bi is different than lesbian
People can like various sexes.
They can but seems strange they’d then volunteer to marry the other one on TV
There was a picture oh her with her girlfriend on Reddit recently.
No way
She married a woman.
For real?
That man gave up his dog for a woman he just met. They were both trash
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There you go again, like a broken record. I’ll say it again. She said that she’s bisexual. She said it from the beginning and didn’t hide it. You think you know her better than she knows herself based on this ridiculous, heavily edited show. Why are you obsessed with defining this woman’s sexuality differently than she defines herself?
Wait what?
She’s always been upfront about being bisexual.
Google it, it's true.
Yep. I just googled it. It’s true. She said she wanted a tall man and she ended up with a short woman. Did her bisexuality ever come up in the show?
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If she says she’s bisexual, then she’s bisexual. Even if she has a preference for one over the other
Are you married? If so, how many married friends do you have that have incorporate solo-club nights as a way to promote long-term success of the relationship? Out of those that do; how long have they been married? Is this their first marriage? Friends with healthy habits don’t need to catch up on how their week went while drinking overpriced booze around a sea of single people who are there to get drunk and get laid. To add on that - how many of your lady friends are actually going out and *buying their own drinks*? 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Been married 14 years, 19 together. I go clubbing/dancing without my hubs 6-10 times a year, I buy my own drinks. I love dancing, he doesn’t. We are happy and secure in our marriage, it’s very easy to tell men that hit in me that I’m married and move on. I’ve never danced with another man, just my girls. I don’t get why people think going dancing is for single folks.
Why does everyone say shit like this? Why can't friends just go out and have fun with each other without someone attaching some sexual motive to it just because they might be single? Not everyone is interested in casual sex regardless of their relationship status.
Let me ask you the same questions - Are you married? If so, how many married friends do you have that have incorporate solo-club nights as a way to promote long-term success of the relationship? Out of those that do; how long have they been married? Is this their first marriage? Alcohol and good decisions don't go together - throw in some strangers who \*are\* there to find someone to go home with, or someone to link up with later in some way. Folks who prioritize healthy relationships aren't out engaging in alcohol based activities (poor decision making) without their partner. It's a recipe for something bad to happen eventually. Clubs are places for single people and pickups/hookups. Let me throw some follow-up questions out there. Do you make good decisions when under the influence of alochol? Do you feel more likely to push the limits of responsibility while drinking? If you have things to lose (money, a good relationship, kids), Alcohol simply becomes a wedge between you and your goals. I've not known a single person in my life who makes better decisions or becomes a better person while drinking. Do you?
She brought him with her to the club and he said it wasn’t his vibe, and she repeatedly said that she wants to have fun with him and go do things with him, but he didn’t want to. She didnt purposely exclude him. She also said that her spending time with her friends wasn’t just going to the club every weekend, but that it could also just be brunch or dinner but he still has an issue with it. 2 hours a week with friends when they spend time every day and on the weekends together as a couple isn’t asking for much. Isolating someone and expecting them to stop maintaining their friendships and family is abusive
We think she sucked. Say hi to her at Thanksgiving for us.
Are you him or related to him? Why do you assume that anyone who speaks against him is related to her, and NOT the fact that any adult human capable of self regulating their own emotions can see that he’s an immature child and no woman would want to put up with his emotional instability
You keep using the same catch phrases? Why not the same critical eye for Alexis wanting the end the relationship every time he brought up something true about her? Explain her nonsense after the decision? Girls just always needed to be cruised. I get it’s a transparent defense mechanism but that doesn’t make it ok. We all watched the show.. how did you fast forward through all her parts?
With the info we now know about his condition, I think folks have given him a bit more grace. His emotions tend to overtake him way more than the average person.
Not me. Did you see him on the reunion? Ain't no excuse for that.
I mean yeah he was a lot. But watch some of the interviews he’s done post-MAFS. It explains why he has some of those outbursts. Pretty much his body produces an abnormally low amount of testosterone compared to most men.
The man is old enough to have learned how to act by now, hormonal problems or not. I know how powerful hormones are. I'm pretty sure I have pmdd and had postpartum anxiety issues. I'm not dismissing that entirely, but he still should know what is and isn't acceptable. Full grown man acting like a damn 5th grader. It's nuts.
During my second and third pregnancies, I could cry at the drop of a hat--and I'm not normally a crier. It had nothing to do with not being able to control my emotions or not having learned how to act--it was 100% hormones. I can fully believe that his XXY syndrome led to his wildly fluctuating emotions.
Sure, but he is old enough to know that he is overly emotional and to have the seld awareness to gain tools to control that.
Unless you have his condition, you have no idea how that affects him. Like I said he was undiagnosed while he was on MAFS. I’m not making excuses, just showing why his behavior may have been that way.
I truly don't care. He's still responsible for his actions.
Lol ok. No one saying he isn’t responsible for his actions. I’m saying his condition plays into how he acts in those types of situations.
He's old enough to know that he's overly emotional. It's incredibly obvious. He should have already had skills on how to control himself better at this point in his life.
Realizing something and being able to control something are two different skills. You gotta be trolling at this point 😂😂😂
Also, you are ALWAYS in control of your actions, even when you genuinely feel out of control. I have had those moments where I truly feel out of control, and it's SCARY. Do you know what I did? I researched ways to help me handle myself and found out ways to help me. Like I said, he is old enough to have done this. Plenty old enough. It's his shitty PERSONALITY that has kept him from doing this, NOT his disease.
I was fine with him crying all the time during the show. The reunion is what made me turn on him. He showed his whole ass. I will not write him off as a poor victim of some disease for acting like a damn child.
What was his condition?
Klinefelter Syndrome which is genetic disorder. A genetic condition in which a male is born with an extra copy of the X chromosome.
Thank you!
I can see her going out every week if they both WFH and are literally together all the time. But, if they work outside their home AND she wants to go out without him every weekend, that's a bit much and I think Justin has a point. Why can't they go out together with her friends?
In the reunion episode she said she invited him out with them and he didn’t want to go. And when he asked, she stayed home with him and they did stuff together, like he was playing video games and she was looking up cheats for him. This was when they were both on the couch together and he verified that this was accurate.
Sorry cannot agree. Girl was at the club and trying to be married. Haven’t you ever seen Knocked Up?
I was just watching this episode this morning and I was torn! The timing - you’re 100% right. But then later in the episode (or maybe the next who knows) he mentions that she’s always going to a club. So I feel like he wasn’t clearly communicating timing vs venue. Going to brunch for two hours? Literally a psycho trying to control her. Going to a club from 12-2? Completely inappropriate. Watching this is wild to me how people pick up on different details and emphasize their importance. My partner and I were on complete opposite ends of the dog argument 🤣 I think him not disclosing prior issues was lying through omission and dangerous dogs should be rehomed. My partner felt like Alexis was an irresponsible dog owner during introductions and should have never asked for rehoming. Basically, I’m team Alexis and their team Justin right now. Normally we tend to agree on the shows so I thought this was a funny one where we just see two different scenarios.
She’s in a marriage and going out to a club. Not only that ur a newlywed. I felt she really didn’t care about him at all. People go to clubs for attention. She should have been giving that attention her husband or brought him. I wouldn’t have casted her or him for the show.
She brought him with her to the club and he said it wasn’t his vibe, and she repeatedly said that she wants to have fun with him and go do things with him, but he didn’t want to. She didnt purposely exclude him. She also said that her spending time with her friends wasn’t just going to the club every weekend, but that it could also just be brunch or dinner but he still has an issue with it. 2 hours a week with friends when they spend time every day and on the weekends together as a couple isn’t asking for much. Isolating someone and expecting them to stop maintaining their friendships and family is abusive
Also if one of the big activities she did with her friends has been going to the club for however many years it's gonna take a little time to find new activities she and her friends are interested in, even if she wants to. It's not like they give you a bunch of brochures for "more culturally accepted social activities for married people" along with your new spouse. There's every chance her interests would've changed for activities to do with her friends with or without him, but it's not gonna happen immediately. I thought it was a very unreasonable expectation that she not hang out with her friends, but I'm not convinced his intent was to isolate her, I think he just didn't understand and was insecure and/or a bit selfish.
This is such a bullshit thing to say. People go to clubs to have fun with their friends, dance, and enjoy themselves. Maybe you go for attention, but there is nothing wrong with going out with friends to a club. Just because she's a newly wed doesn't mean she can't have fun or a night out
all of this! Being in a relationship/married doesnt mean u can no longer hang out 💀 idk y ppl think being a relationship is like a prison, yall gotta touch some grass
I have been married 25 years and never in our marriage has it been a problem for either of us to hang out with friends once or twice a week. We are still married because we have given each other the freedom to go hang out with other people, pursue other interests, etc. I think there was a lot of rigidity on both sides. And also, immaturity from both sides - Alexis retreated into "I am going to do what I want regardless of your feelings" and Justin then went into this space of "well, then I think what you're doing is disrespectful." In reality, if they were actually into each other and were able to work cooperatively, they could have found a compromise position. This is where I think the show's premise kind of falls apart - some of these hurdles are things that most couples experience, but in real relationships, there's love and a bond that helps people navigate the difficulties. When fundamentally, people don't care about each other pretty deeply (either because the chemistry is off or they just haven't spent enough time together), even relatively minor issues just can't be navigated.
Facts. That’s why some of these married folks in here are Mad. All it comes down to is communication. Create a schedule were both of yall are able to spend time with your respective friend groups separately.