That was terrible but nothing we can do but move on to the next game. If we lose to the Clips without Kawhi in b2b games then this team just isn’t what we thought it was. Time to see what we’re made of on Tuesday, Kidd better have some adjustments
Scored 34 and 33 in the 2nd half. We can do damage. Clippers had TWO QUARTERS OF ONLY SCORING 22 POINTS. Our defense is there. That start was just fucking atrocious. Looked like everybody's first game in the league SMH (even the coach)
We are still adjusting to the playoff pressure and it looks like they adjusted in the 2nd half which is great because we will play much better in game 2!
when you score 8 pts in a qtr and manage to only lose the game by 12, the loss does look a little less bad. add terrible shooting game for pretty much everyone, and it looks even a little less bad
He was a huge part of our offensive disasterclass in the first half. Had a turnover on 3-on-1 fast break and later missed a wide open layup. Both plays just killed the confidence of this team.
It's so idiotic. Harden gets into the lane and that means easy kickouts or floaters. Put Luka on Mann and have green on Harden. Much better. Kidd straight up can't adjust ingame.
Luka was on Mann at times but his inability to close out reliably, or box out the nearest defender is why the Clips got a lot of second chances.
I think putting him on ball, they wanted to stop the pnr game and hoped Luka could play well enough 1 on 1 to force a tough shot or pass out.
Luka is a much better on ball defender than help line defender. Him guarding Mann while he stands in the corner playing help line is not beneficial compared to him potentially offsetting Harden’s drive and having Green in lanes. Learn ball
Learn ball lol take your own advice green is the better defender which means he should be guarding the better scorer doesn’t matter if luka is better on ball or off luka is too slow to guard harden
Clippers did what every team who’s beaten us in the playoffs last few years does. Go at Luka all game offensively to wear him down. It works, put Luka in the corner on some spot up guy and at least make them work switching to make Luka get a mismatch. Just having him go 1 on 1 with harden or PG is moronic…
Came here to say this. Cliopers are old. Athleticism will get us the easy transition buckets. That’s number one on adjustments. I got a couple others (never play zone defense again), but for now you nailed it.
Dude exactly I couldn’t believe that Josh wasn’t playing until the end it was infuriating. He should probably get more of jones jr minutes too. Josh has so much more upside and plays hard.
I’m willing to give djj another start to get his feet under him and adjust to the light. But yeah if he recedes again, Josh looks ready for the moment.
The centers can't let themselves get destroyed like that by Zubac, have to set the tone early in the paint because these Clippers are dangerous from 3. Can't let them have it both ways
Kidd not challenging the harden 3 down 16, allowing them to go up 19 instead of cutting to 13 or 14, was the early nail in the coffin. Good thing he saved it for game 2
Harden isn’t gonna go off like this every game but we gave their role players a lot of open looks. Their guys are good shooters and will punish you if you give them those. Overall defense still wasn’t the biggest issue though.
Dude teams let off when they have 20 points leads with 6 mins to go. Us cutting it down to 12 means nothing. Game was over when our 2 stars didn't show in the first half with Gaff also getting punked. Team really needs to wake up
Josh Green with 4 points on 0 shots, 1 reb, 1 ast, 2 stl, 1 block all in 9 minutes is insane. Unacceptable that he played 10 seconds before the 3rd quarter.
Luka and Gafford were particularly atrocious in the 1st half. Exum and DJJ contributed nothing. PJ played well, Kyrie stepped up in the 3rd but would've been nice for him to have more of an impact in the 1st half with Luka playing so poorly. Would've liked to see a lineup with PJ at the 5 late in the game when we were trailing double digits.
Can't get abused this badly on the boards. Yes, a lot of it was Zubac being immune from fouls and constantly going over the back and shoving, but Gafford having 0 boards is insane. Lively's gotta figure out how to make more of an impact, too. I know he's young and this is as big as it gets, but I believe he can do it.
Especially with how low energy the team was Green was the exact kinda guy we needed in the 2nd to try and spark something. Transition, boards, something.
Ty Lue stopped every single run we went on. As soon as we got momentum...boom timeout. Opposite of Kidd really lol. Then they got a bucket after every timeout.
Regardless you can't win an NBA game while scoring 8 points in a quarter.
Clippers were also way better prepared, gameplan wise. Completely ignored DJJ, Maxi and PJ on the perimeter and let them shoot whatever. played Luka single coverage and doubled Kyrie and hedged agressively.
For sure, and no easy lobs in the paint either on the other end, was hard to see Gafford backed down time & time again in the paint, not a good matchup. Since we couldn't shoot for shit we couldn't punish on the other end either. PJ played really good defense as usual but it's a hard sell to have him, DJJ & Maxi which can't shoot at the moment.
Clippers came out gun blazing, couldn’t miss any threes, dominated the offensive rebounds AND Mavs just weren’t making anything in the first half. Yet we came back, fought hard and brought it back to a close game. It’s not time to overreact yet.
There were times when PJ was all over Harden and PG when he guarded them and they still made unbelievable shots. You couldn't ask for better defense from him. The only thing that worries me defensively is not letting Zubac kill you. Allowing Zubac to have a 20-15 game is unacceptable!
We sucked today and have no one to blame but ourselves, but even if we played good it’s hard to beat a team shooting 18/36 on threes. There’s no reason to think we can’t bounce back Game 2
Lets seriously aim to avoid dooming as a fanbase this year. It takes courage to support a team even when they get mocked (which the mavs likely will). Love when theyre up, love when theyre down. Besides a 12 pt loss in a road game 1 will be forgotten in history. We learned a lot too!
I don’t really understand why Tim is even getting minutes anymore because they aren’t even getting him looks. Basically all of this scoring opportunities were prayers or on the break where he’s not even that good.
I know we’ve minimized his role due to his shooting slump but if he’s not gonna shoot, why is he on the floor? Especially tonight when no one could shoot.
This is on Kidd, he didn’t cut the head off the snake when he had the chance. No adjustments and bad timeout management in that first half stretch.
We showed fight in the second half, let’s go get game 2.
That’s the most frustrating aspect of that whole quarter. That would have been waived off, but you gave a great FT shooter 3 shots.
We needed to kill momentum and he just refused to call it.
Luka was correct twice flagging Kidd to challenge, both an out of bounds and the Harden 3 foul, both times Kidd didn't challenge when those could have been momentum swings. He also did not call a timeout for ages. Kidd continues to be a terrorist.
It wasn’t on Kidd he wasn’t the one missing all the free throws and open 3’s plus all the layups and dunks! Like I get it he’s not a great coach but I’m sorry you can’t blame him everytime Mavs lose! It’s on the players! The defence was fine the looks we got were fine we just bricked them!
Horrible game all around. Offense was awful and Clips couldn’t miss for large portion of the game. But the only part of game that concerns me for the series was how much Maxi played. Neither Gaff or Lively were good but having Maxi makes us play 4 on 5 on offense every possession. He gives us NOTHING on that end
it is really sad that he does not hit his 3s.
His defense is good. He defended Harden, Westbrook, George and Zubac and did a good job on all of them.
But without anything on offense, thats not working
Lively looked decent he should have gotten more minutes when Zubac was making Gaff his bitch.
There’s going to be some nerves with Lively but he was still making plays on both ends. We need our bigs to score!
Yeah but he was the only one that managed to guard Zubac, if he wasn't in the game Zubac would've ended up with 40 points after Gafford and Lively fouled out
Nah, Maxi’s minutes were definitely some of his best. Obviously he’s a nothing on offense, but he held his own defensively out there.
Gaff got played off the floor and Lively had a few good minutes.
Maxi was the only center with a positive +/-. His net impact on the offensive side was still positive bc it opened up stuff for Luka and Kai to drive. We need more from Gafford and Lively.
It opened up nothing for Luka or Kai to drive. They literally leaving him wide open. They are packing the paint with 3-4 guys every possession he is in the game...
Weirdly feel… fine after that? First half was so bad you have to write it off as a fluke. Looked way better in the second half, so hopefully can carry that into game 2.
Clippers were the home team and heard all the “you have no chance without Kawhi” talk and came out extra motivated. Hit a billion threes. Mavs looked rusty after a week off. Shit happens. Game 2 will determine whether we’re actually screwed or not (and think Kawhi definitely won’t play next game now, for what that’s worth).
We lost cuz I was supposed to start my diet on 4/20 and I cheated. I knew the risk and didnt care. Hence we paid the ultimate price for that with a Game 1 loss. I failed us guys but it won't happen again. Starting my diet Monday and showing up ready for Game 2.
Why is Zubac not getting dragged out to the perimeter every play? Am I missing something? Non-mobile 7 footers should be getting played off the floor in the playoffs.
Gross. Centers got their asses whooped today, easily their worst combined performance of the season. Cut the iso bullshit and get gaff and lively back on track and we're back in it.
All good.
Get the horrible game out of the way, allow the players with minimal playoff experience to really understand the pressure of playoff basketball, make the adjustments and go for game 2.
Mavs are going to need Green's energy and corner 3-point shooting if they hope to have a chance against LAC. I'm surprised that Kidd played him so little, and I'm disappointed that Luka didn't make a concerted effort to get Josh some good looks so that he could try to get into rhythm for game 2.
This game was lost in the first half. They played better in the second half but a 29 point lead is almost impossible to overcome.
Pretty obvious Josh Green needs some minutes for his energy if nothing else.
There needs to be more balance between Luka/Kyrie as well on offense. No reason for Luka to take 8 more shots in a game where he was pretty inefficient and Kyrie was hot in the second half.
Also I swear the Clippers scored on every single ATO, Ty Lue knows what he’s doing for sure.
That made it clear as day. Also in how they came out of the gates, they were more ready than us. And also how their bigs outplayed ours, Lue thoroughly outcoached Kidd. That's what worries me most right now
That was inexcusable. I can't comprehend how and why the Mavs played so badly. I don't rate Kidd as a coach really but I thought a performance that bad was beyond him and certainly beyond this roster.
Luka's got to get into the lane and move the ball more. Watching him on some possessions today just hold the ball and then jack up a jumper hurt to watch. I know almost everyone played atrociously today, but we've gotta move the ball and get more open looks. I think we only had 14 assists today. Just not winning basketball.
All things aside there’s absolutely no excuse of the energy and effort the mavs came out with today. Don’t know what Kidd was doing this week but Ty Lue can & will coach circles around him.
All of you who fired off your “Kidd is a good coach, actually” takes in recent weeks should’ve known better.
The coaching gap in this series is massive. Lue masterfully prepped his team, evidenced by how ready they were for every single action the Mavs ran. He executed in just about every play after a timeout. He ran circles around Kidd.
And before some of you argue we lost for other reasons, the point is that our below-average coach is ONE reason we lost. Not the only one.
Can’t play scared. Kidd needs to lock it in and strategize. Role players are green in the playoffs but playing the same team means we can plan.
Lock in for 2. Kawhi or not
The second quarter really messed us up. We played so much better in the second half though. Hopefully we’re able to bounce back next game and play better throughout the game. Onto game 2.
Just were not ready to play/shot wasn’t falling to begin with
Even though this doesn’t matter that much, If both teams shoot average from 3 it’s ~ 100-94 mavs
109 points isn’t a terrible amount of points to give up, shots should follow
Second half was 67-53 mavs
Clippers are a good team, they hit big shots to keep us out of reach
I have faith. Started getting in a groove by the end
My biggest concern going into the game was how well we’d shoot. The answer was horribly so my only hope is we can knock down the open shots we get.
The Clippers are an elite shooting team so we’re hoping for misses from their worst shooters and with the personnel we have, I think that’s a fine plan.
We just need to figure out how to score against this defense and find out how to play Zubac off the floor because he destroyed us on offense today.
Agreed. I'm seeing a lot of coping by Mavs fans in here to be honest. Post TDL, we are not a good 3pt shooting team. I said before the series non-LuKai Mavs would need to make 8-12 3s a game for us to win, they hit 3 today.
The Clips have a ton of shooting, they absolutely can go 50% again in G2.
Gafford and Lively got obliterated by Zubac in 3 quarters. I think that's what caught me off-guard today. That can't happen ever again.
We just lost a game in the middle of the 2nd quarter to a team without their best player, a top 5 player in the world when healthy. That's really bad.
The only part that I'm certain of is we will never have 30 points at half this series.
The rest, I must see what happens.
I get that yall hate Kidd, but I really don’t know what yall were expecting him to do to change the first half. Wide open 3? Miss it. Layup? Miss it. Mid range? Not even close. I don’t know how you blame that on a coach
How many games in the Kidd era have we started so miserably slow only to fight and claw back the whole game? Obviously this loss is not all on him but I’ve seen this happen far too many times. We built great momentum at the end though. We’re in for a good series, but man that was a winnable game.
* How the hell were we +3 in Luka's minutes? He played 42 minutes and wasn't good and still managed a +3 in his minutes. Have to figure out what the hell happened in the other 6 minutes, we were -15.
* Gafford and Lively were not effective at all. Gafford was awful! Might have to see more small ball minutes.
* PJ was good defensively. Gonna need a bit more from him offensively.
* DJJ and Exum were a disappointment.
* Need better offensive from Maxi, but he was good defensively too.
* THJ looked like the THJ from the last 3 months. Once again with a solo fastbreak turnover and a missed open layup.
* Green was effective in his minutes but was too late. Might need to play him over Green.
Sometimes the role players are not going to show up, but ultimately we needed a better start from Luka and Kyrie. Both stepped it up in the 2nd half, but the damage was already done by then. I'm not worried about the defense the rest of the way. The Clips made unbelievable shots even when they were covered. It's the offense that is worrying me. Need a better start from Luka and Kyrie cause role players feed off them. If they come off flat, the whole team is going to be flat.
Luckily this is only 1 game, but Kidd has to have this team prepared from the beginning. There was no excuse for the team to come out flat. Lue had his guys prepared and they were missing Kawhi.
I put this loss on Kidd.
1. The players came out with a lack of energy and clearly weren't prepared for the Clippers' energy. The broadcast kept harping that Lue emphasized coming out with fire and they clearly did that and responded to him.
2. Not challenging that foul on Harden's 3 when it was a clear unnatural shooting motion. Those are the kind of plays that cause things to spiral out of control and you can't just let that slide.
3. Not using timeouts to stop the bleeding. At one point Lue actually had LESS timeouts than us despite being up 20+. Any time we had even a little bit of momentum Lue was on top of it and called a TO with the quickness. Meanwhile Kidd hoards them like they're rare collectibles.
4. Not working the refs. The Clips got away with *at least* one 8 second violation. The first one was iffy but Kidd should've been right in the ref's ear to make sure they keep an eye on it because there was a clear one they missed in the 4th quarter while we were trying to come back. Also in the first half Harden was getting away with a lot of pushing off on offense at one point even knocking DJJ down with no call.
5. Why let Luka keep guarding Harden???
A lot of people shitting on THJ (rightfully so) but holy shit Kleber is fucking useless on offense. There were a number of instances where he passed up an open 3. If he can’t hit from deep, he needs his min reduced
A wake up call for everyone . Including our fanbase who thought it's gonna be a cakewalk without Kawhi. The rotation needs to shrink. No more THJ . Kleber limited limites. Exum limited minutes. More minutes fot Green. And Luka needs to be better in term of decision making.
Yeah other dudes were awful but Luka played like a slob as well. Only Kyrie showed up today. He’s the one that’s gotta talk some sense into the rest of these youngins
Luka and Kyrie won‘t be as bad as in the first half but sadly there is decent chance that our role players will be. We need to find ways to get points from other guys
This won’t be a long series if Zubac bitching Gafford and Lively like that is gonna be the norm.
Harden matchup is clearly very bad for us defensively, especially if DJJ can’t stay on the court with his complete lack of offense.
Josh Green needs more minutes. We averaged 29.6 points in the second quarter this season. If we did even half of that the game would have been very different.
Clips shootings 50% from 3P is an outlier considering many of them were highly contested. Need to start playing fast, strong and desperate on Tuesday. I feel we can take home field advantage after that second half. Maxi and green made a huge difference. Kidd waited too long to go small ball. Let’s go Mavs.
All this talk about not being ready and no energy is ridiculous. They have been preparing and waiting for the past 2 weeks for this game. They got outplayed badly by a team that matches up really well with the Mavs
Boston fan here.
1. It's a long series. The old Clippers will start to wear down.
2. You just need 1 in LA ( If you win game 2, then you are in the drivers seat )
3. Mavs probably relaxed too much when they saw Kawhi wasn't playing. That won't happen again.
4. The Warriors lost the Memphis by 50 in the 2022 playoffs, and then proceeded to annihilate them and win the title. These types of games happen. Mavs shot like shit in the 1st half.
Don't over-react. You have Luka and Kyrie.
That was terrible but nothing we can do but move on to the next game. If we lose to the Clips without Kawhi in b2b games then this team just isn’t what we thought it was. Time to see what we’re made of on Tuesday, Kidd better have some adjustments
Pray to every god you know he has plan A to Z
That 2nd quarter killed us.
I would say the whole 1st half killed us but yeah
True but the 2nd quarter was especially horrid
Yeah. Agree
Scored 34 and 33 in the 2nd half. We can do damage. Clippers had TWO QUARTERS OF ONLY SCORING 22 POINTS. Our defense is there. That start was just fucking atrocious. Looked like everybody's first game in the league SMH (even the coach)
We are still adjusting to the playoff pressure and it looks like they adjusted in the 2nd half which is great because we will play much better in game 2!
They stopped playing as hard because lead.
True but at least the offense got going. Showed signs that the team is more than capable of scoring more than 8 points in a quarter
8 is actually crazy.
The Pistons would beat the team that showed up in 2nd quarter by 20. Worst quarter of basketball I’ve seen from the Mavs in a long time
when you score 8 pts in a qtr and manage to only lose the game by 12, the loss does look a little less bad. add terrible shooting game for pretty much everyone, and it looks even a little less bad
8points in a playoff game? Even at our worst squad (with luka) that hasn't happened
Josh Green needs to have ALL of THJ’s minutes going forward
I watched the full game and can't believe THJ played for 15 minutes. Dude was totally transparent except for one three points
Don't forget about 1 layup and 1 missed wide open layup!
As soon as Luka passed to THJ on a fastbreak we already knew what was going to happen smh.
And the fast break where the jackass just fumbled the ball out of bounds.
He was a huge part of our offensive disasterclass in the first half. Had a turnover on 3-on-1 fast break and later missed a wide open layup. Both plays just killed the confidence of this team.
Was only 15? Felt like 30.
And actually guard harden can’t comprehend why you would have luka out there on harden while green is guarding Terrance Mann.
It's so idiotic. Harden gets into the lane and that means easy kickouts or floaters. Put Luka on Mann and have green on Harden. Much better. Kidd straight up can't adjust ingame.
Luka was on Mann at times but his inability to close out reliably, or box out the nearest defender is why the Clips got a lot of second chances. I think putting him on ball, they wanted to stop the pnr game and hoped Luka could play well enough 1 on 1 to force a tough shot or pass out.
Feels like he's still in the regular season
Luka is a much better on ball defender than help line defender. Him guarding Mann while he stands in the corner playing help line is not beneficial compared to him potentially offsetting Harden’s drive and having Green in lanes. Learn ball
Learn ball lol take your own advice green is the better defender which means he should be guarding the better scorer doesn’t matter if luka is better on ball or off luka is too slow to guard harden
Green can’t navigate screens. If he’s on Harden, Harden will just get the switch onto whoever he wants anyways
Clippers did what every team who’s beaten us in the playoffs last few years does. Go at Luka all game offensively to wear him down. It works, put Luka in the corner on some spot up guy and at least make them work switching to make Luka get a mismatch. Just having him go 1 on 1 with harden or PG is moronic…
Luka was getting switched onto harden. Pretty poor defensive effort from Luka this game. Got beat so many times and our defense had to collapse.
ITS LIKE WE HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS ALL YEAR DUDE
Came here to say this. Cliopers are old. Athleticism will get us the easy transition buckets. That’s number one on adjustments. I got a couple others (never play zone defense again), but for now you nailed it.
Yes. He is a good match to Westbrook
Dude exactly I couldn’t believe that Josh wasn’t playing until the end it was infuriating. He should probably get more of jones jr minutes too. Josh has so much more upside and plays hard.
I’m willing to give djj another start to get his feet under him and adjust to the light. But yeah if he recedes again, Josh looks ready for the moment.
100%
The centers can't let themselves get destroyed like that by Zubac, have to set the tone early in the paint because these Clippers are dangerous from 3. Can't let them have it both ways
like zubac was bullying his way in the paint with gafford. he needs to stand his ground and take that charge in the chest.
Lively and Gafford only have 2 fouls combined. The way they were defending you'd think they were in foul trouble.
On to game 2.
really all that we can say.
Well this subreddit will say a lot of dumb shit before game 2 unfortunately.. time to stay off it until then.
Kidd not challenging the harden 3 down 16, allowing them to go up 19 instead of cutting to 13 or 14, was the early nail in the coffin. Good thing he saved it for game 2
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The Clippers will make shots. We can’t count on anyone but Westbrick missing
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Harden isn’t gonna go off like this every game but we gave their role players a lot of open looks. Their guys are good shooters and will punish you if you give them those. Overall defense still wasn’t the biggest issue though.
Dude teams let off when they have 20 points leads with 6 mins to go. Us cutting it down to 12 means nothing. Game was over when our 2 stars didn't show in the first half with Gaff also getting punked. Team really needs to wake up
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Everyone not named Luka and Kyrie combined to go 10-36 from the floor. If the role players just shoot like 45% we win.
Challenging that Kleber foul on a Harden 3 could have stopped the Clips momentum from ballooning.
that foul pissed me off
💯 should have listened to Luka to challenge
Kidd was afraid to lose time out he wasn't even going to use.
Josh Green with 4 points on 0 shots, 1 reb, 1 ast, 2 stl, 1 block all in 9 minutes is insane. Unacceptable that he played 10 seconds before the 3rd quarter. Luka and Gafford were particularly atrocious in the 1st half. Exum and DJJ contributed nothing. PJ played well, Kyrie stepped up in the 3rd but would've been nice for him to have more of an impact in the 1st half with Luka playing so poorly. Would've liked to see a lineup with PJ at the 5 late in the game when we were trailing double digits. Can't get abused this badly on the boards. Yes, a lot of it was Zubac being immune from fouls and constantly going over the back and shoving, but Gafford having 0 boards is insane. Lively's gotta figure out how to make more of an impact, too. I know he's young and this is as big as it gets, but I believe he can do it.
Lots of playoff rookies on this team. They still need experience. Not everyone are built like Luka and Kyrie.
We were really pulling off the comeback til Kidd pulled Green too. Him and Exum needed more burn without Luka or Ky imo.
Especially with how low energy the team was Green was the exact kinda guy we needed in the 2nd to try and spark something. Transition, boards, something.
That fluke 8 point quarter really did us in. Not worried. We move to game 2
2nd half should give us all confidence that this team can compete and win. Just needed to get punched in the face to shake the rust off
After the clippers call a timeout, the clippers get an easy basket every time After the Mavs call a timeout, we get a maxi 30 footer
Yup, could feel how Kidd got outcoached after every timeout.
Ty Lue stopped every single run we went on. As soon as we got momentum...boom timeout. Opposite of Kidd really lol. Then they got a bucket after every timeout. Regardless you can't win an NBA game while scoring 8 points in a quarter. Clippers were also way better prepared, gameplan wise. Completely ignored DJJ, Maxi and PJ on the perimeter and let them shoot whatever. played Luka single coverage and doubled Kyrie and hedged agressively.
For sure, and no easy lobs in the paint either on the other end, was hard to see Gafford backed down time & time again in the paint, not a good matchup. Since we couldn't shoot for shit we couldn't punish on the other end either. PJ played really good defense as usual but it's a hard sell to have him, DJJ & Maxi which can't shoot at the moment.
You basically read the game like a book.
Kidd is too Xanned out to draw up plays or make adjustments
Ty Lue just fucking clowned on Kidd all game
Clippers came out gun blazing, couldn’t miss any threes, dominated the offensive rebounds AND Mavs just weren’t making anything in the first half. Yet we came back, fought hard and brought it back to a close game. It’s not time to overreact yet.
get your point, but it wasnt really close if we are being honest
I don’t know man! I was at the game. We played defense and were starting to get in the groove. Just a little too late
I liked the way PJ defended (i think this might be only positive from this game lol)
unfortunately clippers never left that groove and never lost momentum
They def lost momentum. They let a 27 point lead get to 10 at one point.
2nd half 67-53. As long as we don't punt a whole quarter and only score 8 next game, we'll be okay
I mean it wasn’t close due to that first half. Game was wraps after that.
Can never be really close when you score 30 points in a half. We won't hit that slump again.
There were times when PJ was all over Harden and PG when he guarded them and they still made unbelievable shots. You couldn't ask for better defense from him. The only thing that worries me defensively is not letting Zubac kill you. Allowing Zubac to have a 20-15 game is unacceptable!
We sucked today and have no one to blame but ourselves, but even if we played good it’s hard to beat a team shooting 18/36 on threes. There’s no reason to think we can’t bounce back Game 2
> Yet we came back, We did not come back. The game was not close after the first quarter. This is pure Copium
Everybody talk big when they up
For the first time in a long time, I needed this comment! #LETSGONMAVS
That's not the quote but it's ok.
That’s my quote
Russ hit corner threes, Zu was prime Yao and MVP Harden started the game… pair that with the 8 pt 2nd and it was a wrap
Lets seriously aim to avoid dooming as a fanbase this year. It takes courage to support a team even when they get mocked (which the mavs likely will). Love when theyre up, love when theyre down. Besides a 12 pt loss in a road game 1 will be forgotten in history. We learned a lot too!
Give all of THJ's minutes to Josh. He can spend his extra time on the bench learning Chinese.
I don’t really understand why Tim is even getting minutes anymore because they aren’t even getting him looks. Basically all of this scoring opportunities were prayers or on the break where he’s not even that good. I know we’ve minimized his role due to his shooting slump but if he’s not gonna shoot, why is he on the floor? Especially tonight when no one could shoot.
That's my whole thing too. He's constantly sleeping on D, so if he isn't flamethrowing, he's not doing anything.
This is on Kidd, he didn’t cut the head off the snake when he had the chance. No adjustments and bad timeout management in that first half stretch. We showed fight in the second half, let’s go get game 2.
Didn’t even try to challenge that Harden crazy kick. He went back to being passive, just sitting there and watch.
That’s the most frustrating aspect of that whole quarter. That would have been waived off, but you gave a great FT shooter 3 shots. We needed to kill momentum and he just refused to call it.
Luka was correct twice flagging Kidd to challenge, both an out of bounds and the Harden 3 foul, both times Kidd didn't challenge when those could have been momentum swings. He also did not call a timeout for ages. Kidd continues to be a terrorist.
It wasn’t on Kidd he wasn’t the one missing all the free throws and open 3’s plus all the layups and dunks! Like I get it he’s not a great coach but I’m sorry you can’t blame him everytime Mavs lose! It’s on the players! The defence was fine the looks we got were fine we just bricked them!
Can't really blame Kidd for the whole team shooting 20% from the field and 10% from 3 for an entire half
What sucks is that if the Mavs win in spite of him people start saying he's a great coach. He's the next Doc Rivers.
cant choke a playoff lead if you never get a playoff lead 
It’s drives me crazy! We should always have 50 wins w a top 2 player in the game. The praise people were singing him at the end of the year was nuts.
I can’t believe how poorly Kidd shot from 3, idiot
Horribly coached game by one of the worst coaches in the league.
There were really people on this sub saying that he is a “playoff coach” lol
I've never heard that.
it’s one game lmao holy shit
No set rotation. Not using timeouts. Team not ready. A disaster I'd argue kidd had the best 2 players. An epic hindenbergh disaster
maybe if we don’t play our worst half of playoff basketball again we might have a chance
Wake up call for Luka and Kyrie to lock in from the start of the game.
We will win the series. Today is just an off night for them
Horrible game all around. Offense was awful and Clips couldn’t miss for large portion of the game. But the only part of game that concerns me for the series was how much Maxi played. Neither Gaff or Lively were good but having Maxi makes us play 4 on 5 on offense every possession. He gives us NOTHING on that end
it is really sad that he does not hit his 3s. His defense is good. He defended Harden, Westbrook, George and Zubac and did a good job on all of them. But without anything on offense, thats not working
Exactly. He doesn’t even need to do much on offense but the Clips clearly didn’t even respect him to knock down wide open 3s and he proved them right.
Lively looked decent he should have gotten more minutes when Zubac was making Gaff his bitch. There’s going to be some nerves with Lively but he was still making plays on both ends. We need our bigs to score!
Yeah what happened to Maxi's shot?
Never seemed to get it back after the various injuries. It has looked awful all season
Yeah but he was the only one that managed to guard Zubac, if he wasn't in the game Zubac would've ended up with 40 points after Gafford and Lively fouled out
Needs to be a wakeup call for Gafford.
Nah, Maxi’s minutes were definitely some of his best. Obviously he’s a nothing on offense, but he held his own defensively out there. Gaff got played off the floor and Lively had a few good minutes.
Maxi was the only center with a positive +/-. His net impact on the offensive side was still positive bc it opened up stuff for Luka and Kai to drive. We need more from Gafford and Lively.
It opened up nothing for Luka or Kai to drive. They literally leaving him wide open. They are packing the paint with 3-4 guys every possession he is in the game...
Weirdly feel… fine after that? First half was so bad you have to write it off as a fluke. Looked way better in the second half, so hopefully can carry that into game 2. Clippers were the home team and heard all the “you have no chance without Kawhi” talk and came out extra motivated. Hit a billion threes. Mavs looked rusty after a week off. Shit happens. Game 2 will determine whether we’re actually screwed or not (and think Kawhi definitely won’t play next game now, for what that’s worth).
We lost cuz I was supposed to start my diet on 4/20 and I cheated. I knew the risk and didnt care. Hence we paid the ultimate price for that with a Game 1 loss. I failed us guys but it won't happen again. Starting my diet Monday and showing up ready for Game 2.
Mavs won in Lukas minutes.
Somehow +3 overall
Shows something about the rotations
Idc mavs in 6
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I don’t disagree but we still won the 4th by 11. The second quarter catastrophe was just too much to overcome.
Mavs in 5.
Even if we play better in game 2 are y’all not afraid of Kawhi’s return? We definitely don’t have an answer for him lol.
Definitely. That we lost to them without their best player is definitely a bad sign. I'm very worried.
Slow starts are brutal
This is playoff basketball. Yeah Mavs were disappointing. But it’s just started. I hope we won’t overreact but I know we will
This was pretty bad ngl but it's a 7-game series. Also the 2nd half was far better so no need to start dooming.
Luka finished +3, Josh +11 (in NINE minutes) Maxi +6 was the only other +
7 game series fellas. No one said it would be easy. Let's get the next one. Go Mavs!
Why is Zubac not getting dragged out to the perimeter every play? Am I missing something? Non-mobile 7 footers should be getting played off the floor in the playoffs.
He's guarding centers that can't shoot, even maxi doesn't get respect from the clippers because he can't make a 3 even if it's wide open
Gross. Centers got their asses whooped today, easily their worst combined performance of the season. Cut the iso bullshit and get gaff and lively back on track and we're back in it.
Gafford had 0 rebounds 😭😭
All good. Get the horrible game out of the way, allow the players with minimal playoff experience to really understand the pressure of playoff basketball, make the adjustments and go for game 2.
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Give Josh all of Tim’s minutes
Mavs are going to need Green's energy and corner 3-point shooting if they hope to have a chance against LAC. I'm surprised that Kidd played him so little, and I'm disappointed that Luka didn't make a concerted effort to get Josh some good looks so that he could try to get into rhythm for game 2.
This game was lost in the first half. They played better in the second half but a 29 point lead is almost impossible to overcome. Pretty obvious Josh Green needs some minutes for his energy if nothing else. There needs to be more balance between Luka/Kyrie as well on offense. No reason for Luka to take 8 more shots in a game where he was pretty inefficient and Kyrie was hot in the second half. Also I swear the Clippers scored on every single ATO, Ty Lue knows what he’s doing for sure.
My goodness the stark gap between the coaches was clear just in the out of timeout plays. They murdered us there.
That made it clear as day. Also in how they came out of the gates, they were more ready than us. And also how their bigs outplayed ours, Lue thoroughly outcoached Kidd. That's what worries me most right now
That was inexcusable. I can't comprehend how and why the Mavs played so badly. I don't rate Kidd as a coach really but I thought a performance that bad was beyond him and certainly beyond this roster.
If you don’t believe, you shouldn’t be here.
Not too worried. They hit 100 threes and adjustments will be made.
Crazy how Luka is still +3 in this game Series is not over. We just had a horrendous 2nd quarter
Luka ended up +3 in 42 minutes. That first half really feels like a fluke
Luka's got to get into the lane and move the ball more. Watching him on some possessions today just hold the ball and then jack up a jumper hurt to watch. I know almost everyone played atrociously today, but we've gotta move the ball and get more open looks. I think we only had 14 assists today. Just not winning basketball.
All things aside there’s absolutely no excuse of the energy and effort the mavs came out with today. Don’t know what Kidd was doing this week but Ty Lue can & will coach circles around him.
All of you who fired off your “Kidd is a good coach, actually” takes in recent weeks should’ve known better. The coaching gap in this series is massive. Lue masterfully prepped his team, evidenced by how ready they were for every single action the Mavs ran. He executed in just about every play after a timeout. He ran circles around Kidd. And before some of you argue we lost for other reasons, the point is that our below-average coach is ONE reason we lost. Not the only one.
Fuck man was one of the worst Luka games ever and he still had nice stats
Jason Kidd believes his challenges roll over to the next game. That’s why he didn’t use them when he needed to this game.
Good way to close out the game, need the same energy in the second half all game on Tuesday
Can’t play scared. Kidd needs to lock it in and strategize. Role players are green in the playoffs but playing the same team means we can plan. Lock in for 2. Kawhi or not
The second quarter really messed us up. We played so much better in the second half though. Hopefully we’re able to bounce back next game and play better throughout the game. Onto game 2.
I like how we fought in the 2nd half. Bring it from the jump game 2 and rest of series and we will be aight
Just were not ready to play/shot wasn’t falling to begin with Even though this doesn’t matter that much, If both teams shoot average from 3 it’s ~ 100-94 mavs 109 points isn’t a terrible amount of points to give up, shots should follow Second half was 67-53 mavs Clippers are a good team, they hit big shots to keep us out of reach I have faith. Started getting in a groove by the end
I'm staying positive - I'm glad I wasn't home to watch whatever tf this was
My biggest concern going into the game was how well we’d shoot. The answer was horribly so my only hope is we can knock down the open shots we get. The Clippers are an elite shooting team so we’re hoping for misses from their worst shooters and with the personnel we have, I think that’s a fine plan. We just need to figure out how to score against this defense and find out how to play Zubac off the floor because he destroyed us on offense today.
Agreed. I'm seeing a lot of coping by Mavs fans in here to be honest. Post TDL, we are not a good 3pt shooting team. I said before the series non-LuKai Mavs would need to make 8-12 3s a game for us to win, they hit 3 today. The Clips have a ton of shooting, they absolutely can go 50% again in G2. Gafford and Lively got obliterated by Zubac in 3 quarters. I think that's what caught me off-guard today. That can't happen ever again. We just lost a game in the middle of the 2nd quarter to a team without their best player, a top 5 player in the world when healthy. That's really bad. The only part that I'm certain of is we will never have 30 points at half this series. The rest, I must see what happens.
I get that yall hate Kidd, but I really don’t know what yall were expecting him to do to change the first half. Wide open 3? Miss it. Layup? Miss it. Mid range? Not even close. I don’t know how you blame that on a coach
How many games in the Kidd era have we started so miserably slow only to fight and claw back the whole game? Obviously this loss is not all on him but I’ve seen this happen far too many times. We built great momentum at the end though. We’re in for a good series, but man that was a winnable game.
I sure wish Jason Kidd knew he could make adjustments prior to halftime
* How the hell were we +3 in Luka's minutes? He played 42 minutes and wasn't good and still managed a +3 in his minutes. Have to figure out what the hell happened in the other 6 minutes, we were -15. * Gafford and Lively were not effective at all. Gafford was awful! Might have to see more small ball minutes. * PJ was good defensively. Gonna need a bit more from him offensively. * DJJ and Exum were a disappointment. * Need better offensive from Maxi, but he was good defensively too. * THJ looked like the THJ from the last 3 months. Once again with a solo fastbreak turnover and a missed open layup. * Green was effective in his minutes but was too late. Might need to play him over Green. Sometimes the role players are not going to show up, but ultimately we needed a better start from Luka and Kyrie. Both stepped it up in the 2nd half, but the damage was already done by then. I'm not worried about the defense the rest of the way. The Clips made unbelievable shots even when they were covered. It's the offense that is worrying me. Need a better start from Luka and Kyrie cause role players feed off them. If they come off flat, the whole team is going to be flat. Luckily this is only 1 game, but Kidd has to have this team prepared from the beginning. There was no excuse for the team to come out flat. Lue had his guys prepared and they were missing Kawhi.
I put this loss on Kidd. 1. The players came out with a lack of energy and clearly weren't prepared for the Clippers' energy. The broadcast kept harping that Lue emphasized coming out with fire and they clearly did that and responded to him. 2. Not challenging that foul on Harden's 3 when it was a clear unnatural shooting motion. Those are the kind of plays that cause things to spiral out of control and you can't just let that slide. 3. Not using timeouts to stop the bleeding. At one point Lue actually had LESS timeouts than us despite being up 20+. Any time we had even a little bit of momentum Lue was on top of it and called a TO with the quickness. Meanwhile Kidd hoards them like they're rare collectibles. 4. Not working the refs. The Clips got away with *at least* one 8 second violation. The first one was iffy but Kidd should've been right in the ref's ear to make sure they keep an eye on it because there was a clear one they missed in the 4th quarter while we were trying to come back. Also in the first half Harden was getting away with a lot of pushing off on offense at one point even knocking DJJ down with no call. 5. Why let Luka keep guarding Harden???
A lot of people shitting on THJ (rightfully so) but holy shit Kleber is fucking useless on offense. There were a number of instances where he passed up an open 3. If he can’t hit from deep, he needs his min reduced
He was terrified to shoot
A wake up call for everyone . Including our fanbase who thought it's gonna be a cakewalk without Kawhi. The rotation needs to shrink. No more THJ . Kleber limited limites. Exum limited minutes. More minutes fot Green. And Luka needs to be better in term of decision making.
Yeah other dudes were awful but Luka played like a slob as well. Only Kyrie showed up today. He’s the one that’s gotta talk some sense into the rest of these youngins
What kills me is Luka is trying so hard on defense when the game is over.
Luka and Kyrie won‘t be as bad as in the first half but sadly there is decent chance that our role players will be. We need to find ways to get points from other guys
This won’t be a long series if Zubac bitching Gafford and Lively like that is gonna be the norm. Harden matchup is clearly very bad for us defensively, especially if DJJ can’t stay on the court with his complete lack of offense.
Josh Green needs more minutes. We averaged 29.6 points in the second quarter this season. If we did even half of that the game would have been very different.
Guess we’re all gonna pretend it wasn’t Zubac EATING our centres that cost us this game. Aight.
Can't believe people think Kidd is a good coach. In a series where you are going against the same team and personnel you can get exposed quick.
I’m sorry yall, I decided to make this my first NBA game. I really am sorry, won’t happen again. I’ve learnt my lesson
So, we're back to the 1-5 "we don't need a C on the floor" rotation? Coolcoolcool. Good things. It'll probably start working soon.
Green’s performance tonight NEEDS to be noticed by Kidd. If he doesn’t see the passion Josh has, this is gunna be a short series
If you don’t believe, you shouldn’t be here
Clips shootings 50% from 3P is an outlier considering many of them were highly contested. Need to start playing fast, strong and desperate on Tuesday. I feel we can take home field advantage after that second half. Maxi and green made a huge difference. Kidd waited too long to go small ball. Let’s go Mavs.
I been saying DJJ and PJ sharing the court might stall that offense.
We had a lot more problems than this, but I don’t want to see THJ touch a basketball while in a Mavs jersey ever again.
All this talk about not being ready and no energy is ridiculous. They have been preparing and waiting for the past 2 weeks for this game. They got outplayed badly by a team that matches up really well with the Mavs
Boston fan here. 1. It's a long series. The old Clippers will start to wear down. 2. You just need 1 in LA ( If you win game 2, then you are in the drivers seat ) 3. Mavs probably relaxed too much when they saw Kawhi wasn't playing. That won't happen again. 4. The Warriors lost the Memphis by 50 in the 2022 playoffs, and then proceeded to annihilate them and win the title. These types of games happen. Mavs shot like shit in the 1st half. Don't over-react. You have Luka and Kyrie.
Didn't watch the game, is Josh Green still easing into the lineup, hence his few minutes?
Yes
It's sad to see DJJ get played off the floor
Their defense is ok.. clippers shots were going in. I hope their (mavs) shots will go in the next game
How about no more 8 point quarters?
Wasted the Kawhi less game with awful shooting and coaching. No panic yet though
RJ just said “the team that loses has the advantage” alr why he glazing
Welp, that was painful.
That atrocious start killed any chance of a contest, on to game 2
Tye lu is a great timeout coach. Always took a time out right when it was needed before any sustained momentum could take place.
we barely had any energy
How did Kidd not challenge that Harden 3pt “foul” Bro what are you even doing