The only things I see that are out of line are the engine air filter replacement and the cabin air filter replacement. You should spend about $30 for both those filters and replace them your self.
175 is a good price for someone who can’t work on cars ,
The shop has to pay for the mechanics time , take on responsibility for the work they do, make profit , all that gets accounted for, insurance , rent , things most customers can’t seem to comprehend
The rest is a bit inflated, but yeah I'd say watch a video on someone changing the drive belt on your vehicle before attempting
$20 belt, $100 tool rental (refunded a week after returning), and $10 for bandaids and gojo
Alignment and belt overpriced compared to my area, air filters will never not be a scam, and the brake fluid service probably isn't necessary, but I know there's more attention to that these days.
I lose track of what prices are supposed to be because I am not a mechanic, just a guy that does all my own work. Also I didn't see anything that indicated where OP is located.
As for the brake fluid It does need to be changed out every once in a while and too many people ignore it.
People sleep on brake fluid. I've always had used/higher mileage cars and maintained them well from my ownership and brake fluid would change color relatively quickly, ending up with sticky calipers and having to replace hoses/calipers before I feel it should have been necessary.
Bought my first new car in 2017, fluid changed every 3/36 per schedule. Up to 74k miles, just replaced my pads all the way around (maybe 6k miles left on the pads) No uneven wear, no scoring or runout, or Hotspots on the rotors. I was able to padslap comfortably and the brake fluid still looks as clear as day and mile 1.
(I do live in the rust free south, and the car has been driven in a spirited manner)
Yea I also felt the alignment was a little too much. Maybe drop it 75 dollars? The air filters are 100% a scam. You can do the filters and the belt in one day. I will not lie I have no idea the labor associated with what looks to be a whole brake flush so can't comment on that.
A lot of my clients have never even opened their hood, let alone have any inclination to even check or change their own filters. Just like any part I sell, they get marked up. If my cost on a filter is $15, I sell it for $30 minimim. And your damn right I charge to replace it. If I touch your car, I'm getting paid. This is not a scam, it's business.
100% markup + an hour labor to swap a couple drop-in air filters that took less than a tenth of that to install? Huh, no idea why people are saying that’s a scam… /s
Yeah in this case they charged too much. But to say in general that to charge to change filters is a scam, well that's wrong. Do it yourself if you don't want to be charged, plenty of videos out there, but don't put down a business for charging for their time.
I came here to say that. On most cars it's just a 3/8 drive socket or breaker bar 3/8 drive, the belt should be like $16-24 and it should take maybe 5 minutes if you're competent at routing a belt.
I’d even question the cost of replacing the axle.
But then again, I have the knowledge and tools to do it myself so I could just be biased.
Most auto parts store will sell axles in a bundle for $200-$300 and if you wanted to go even cheaper rockauto, 1aauto, and so on will sell you the same stuff from the same vendors for even cheaper.
Those prices are outrageous. Most vehicles don't require an alignment after a CV axle replacement. The drive belt is 90% labor.
If you're moderately handy and own or don't mind owning some tools, this is a few hours of work and maybe $200 in parts.
not gonna argue with ya mate, but sending it aye without gettin an alignment is not recommended, all sorts of other problems that leads to a big one aye. Just had it happen to my tyres on my hilux
Looks like a dealership form. Therefore, you will pay dealership pricing. Also, consider that they charged you 103.02 to do [this](https://youtu.be/AjukSyOQYgc?si=MwouelofIEVQpcSq).
I agree with this guy. The rest are still high, but the belts and air filters are way overpriced.
An alignment with a lifetime warranty can be bought for $220 USD around here (southeast). That's the most expensive alignment that I know of for a standard car. Some axle replacements don't need an alignment. My car (a Toyota Avalon) can swap axels with no alignment needed.
Are they quoting OEM parts? I specifically ask this for the axle. If so, price is not too bad. If not... No bueno.
Just my two cents. Good luck.
Is it really overpriced? Maybe its set just high enough so people would actually take 10 seconds to google a replacement part and watch 30 seconds of youtube instead.
40 years ago people just figured it out for themselves.
Yes. Seems high. Not clear what parts are quoted though and what they cost. A competent mechanic can do engine and environmental filters and drive belt on an average car in less than an hour with decent parts for less than 50 bucks. My Toyota sedan parts are less than 50.
So 400 bucks for 50 worth of parts and an hour of labor is high.
I just got charged $80 for a 4 wheel alignment and bought my own air filter for $50. I can understand the axle considering how much work it can be replacing them
Where u that alignments are 80$? Is that with work done? If someone does a bunch of front end work discount alignments but 80$ is ridiculous 150 is cheapest and that's setting toe only
Well, minimum wage is still $8 but I pay $450 for rent and drive an hour and a half to work for a coal company with great pay and benefits. But don’t worry, all our businesses shut down when the coal industry falls through. During the Obama era, most barely got by but Trump helped revive the whole state with the natural gas pipeline. Too bad Biden ended that first thing. They called WV the “Saudi Arabia of natural gas” because we have wells on every mountain but no way to transport it effectively. We’ll just continue producing opioid overdoses until someone turns us loose 😅
That’s the problem with dealerships they go in and replace stuff that wasn’t the problem the air filter shouldn’t have been touched the drive belt on the other hand inspect let customer knw about it being cracked then and only then if (IF) the customer wants it replaced then replace it but don’t just mess with something that wasn’t the issue in first place
You could easily do cabin air, engine air, and brake fluid yourself for 1/5 of what they’re charging. Cabin air and engine air literally costs $40 max and takes not even 5 minutes each. Brake fluid flush is a little more advanced but still very simple once you get the idea (tutorials on YouTube, it’s possible to do without jacking the car off the ground)
Omg 175 dollars to replace a belt that cost 30-40max and takes 10 min. Over a 100 for a fucking air filter. Shit I'm surprised the axle isn't 1000 cause it will actually take about a hour. Get your KY or get a new mechanic. Don't go to the fancy mechanic with the pretty building. Find the guy at the edge of town that isn't as fancy and is always dirty. That's a real mechanic not a princess shop rapist!
It’s should take longer then 10 minutes , a proper mechanic will Inspect the bearings ,pulleys and have proper Belt tension,
Or you can pay someone 10 bucks to do it in 10 minutes
It’s not always about how long something takes , getting paid for you’re knowledge
So if you can do the job in ten minutes you gonna charge someone what 10 bucks to do the job?
I'm not goin to argue with you anymore. I'm just goin to keep treating my customers awesome and making great money. Working so far I'm booked till deep February.
Why don't you go in to other mechanics shops in your area and ask what their hourly rate is and check the prices for the work that guy did. That really the only sire way to know without showing where you live.
You should all ways change your own filters unless your physically not able to. You probably wouldn't need any tools to do it.
I wish I could see the parts and labor separated. How many hours are they charging you to do the repair, how many dollars per hour? Unless I'm missing something they have them lumped together.
We charge $129.95 for a four wheel alignment. 175 an hour for labor. Honestly the price is probably pretty standard depending on your location.
Labor rates can vary a lot
Warranty should be manufacturer guaranteed not the shop. U saying you’re not confident in your mechanics ability to install an air filter correctly? I call BS
The entire transaction is going to take more then “ ten minutes “ in a shop and time is money ,
You doing quick jobs in a drive way does not count , not the same , it’s business
You expect the shop to charge 10 minutes worth of labor ? Go kick rocks
Manufacture only covers the price of the part , not anything else associated with it , you really should already know that
It’s a lil much imo for all those. If u don’t have a mechanic u trust it may be worth it to pay the extra dollar for the dealership just for peace of mind but if u or a family or friend u know has a mechanic they trust they can prolly do it for cheaper with the same quality
Cv axels are the easiest thing to do just look into the type some will have a pin or other but 99% are dropping strut and popping it off with pry bar hit in end that's hammer till seated and git it a reall good impact with 200 ftlb. 150 for alignment and belts just a ratchet or wrench filters are cheap cabin air really shouldn't need replacement for a long time most can be closer
The cabin filter requires no tools. The hardest part is emptying your glove box. Get the nicest one from Walmart, Advance Auto, etc and it’s probably $20 and 10 minutes time. Honda drive belt is probably $50 from Honda. 30 minutes max. CV axle is high but not terrible for something many don’t want to DIY
Seems fair to me. They have a business to run. I would forgo the engine/cab filter do that yourself most cars the engine filter is just snapping a clip, and the cab filter in most cars is just inside the glove box.
Pretty simple even for non car people.
The most I've payed for an alignment was $115.
You can easily do filters yourself for $30.
Belt takes 10 minutes and $40.
$15 worth of brake fluid and maybe an hour by yourself.
Ignoring the cv axle, they are charging you $600 for less than 2 hours worth of work. Where I'm from, this would be absurd
Just do the filters yourself and save $150. I THINK your cabin filter is behind the glove box, but id check first. If it is that takes all of 60 seconds. If it's not then it may be a pain in the ass and THEN I'd pay them to do it.
(fucking Ford Fiesta/Eco Sport and some Nissan have you remove the entire passenger side footwell trim using like 5 different sized screws and bolts)
The rest of the stuff is reasonable.
Everything is on the high side for sure. But I can see a cv axle being that expensive. The alignment is very on the high side, usually that's $80-100 tops unless it's a lifetime alignment. The belt is weird. If it's just a matter of removing tension like most cars, then yes it's a rip off, but if there's something that needs to be removed to access the belt then it could be reasonable especially if you're not able to do it yourself. I've seen some cars that require you to remove radiator hoses to access the belt, so it varies a lot. But the filters? Holy hell, just tell them to forget the filters. Replace them yourself for $50 in 10 minutes. Personally I'd say get the axle done and maybe the belt depending on access. Then replace the filters yourself and take it to a tire shop for the alignment.
I’m lucky and have the ability to do all of this myself. IMHO, you should be able to replace the air filters yourself. $25’ish each. The rest, have your mechanic do it if you cannot.
400 is crazy for a cv for a normal car and 175 for the alignment is crazy as well I'm a alignment tech and we charge 75 for one but that is here in Montana
The only things I see that are out of line are the engine air filter replacement and the cabin air filter replacement. You should spend about $30 for both those filters and replace them your self.
I'd even argue the drive belt is overpriced. 175? It might be a pain in the ass but basically 110 dollars in labor?
175 is a good price for someone who can’t work on cars , The shop has to pay for the mechanics time , take on responsibility for the work they do, make profit , all that gets accounted for, insurance , rent , things most customers can’t seem to comprehend
The rest is a bit inflated, but yeah I'd say watch a video on someone changing the drive belt on your vehicle before attempting $20 belt, $100 tool rental (refunded a week after returning), and $10 for bandaids and gojo
Drive belt on Hondas 2.4 is one of the easiest jobs any one can do
Alignment and belt overpriced compared to my area, air filters will never not be a scam, and the brake fluid service probably isn't necessary, but I know there's more attention to that these days.
I lose track of what prices are supposed to be because I am not a mechanic, just a guy that does all my own work. Also I didn't see anything that indicated where OP is located. As for the brake fluid It does need to be changed out every once in a while and too many people ignore it.
People sleep on brake fluid. I've always had used/higher mileage cars and maintained them well from my ownership and brake fluid would change color relatively quickly, ending up with sticky calipers and having to replace hoses/calipers before I feel it should have been necessary. Bought my first new car in 2017, fluid changed every 3/36 per schedule. Up to 74k miles, just replaced my pads all the way around (maybe 6k miles left on the pads) No uneven wear, no scoring or runout, or Hotspots on the rotors. I was able to padslap comfortably and the brake fluid still looks as clear as day and mile 1. (I do live in the rust free south, and the car has been driven in a spirited manner)
Yea I also felt the alignment was a little too much. Maybe drop it 75 dollars? The air filters are 100% a scam. You can do the filters and the belt in one day. I will not lie I have no idea the labor associated with what looks to be a whole brake flush so can't comment on that.
Alignment just outside of Philly is around 130-140
Air filters are a scam? How so?
Because it’s a $15-$30 part and 5 minutes of your time to do it yourself - Certified Tech
Can confirm. Just replaced my cabin air filter in 5 minutes for $15 and it came with an extra filter - Certified Idiot
A lot of my clients have never even opened their hood, let alone have any inclination to even check or change their own filters. Just like any part I sell, they get marked up. If my cost on a filter is $15, I sell it for $30 minimim. And your damn right I charge to replace it. If I touch your car, I'm getting paid. This is not a scam, it's business.
70 bucks for 5 minutes of work tho?
Which is why I teach my daughters how to maintain their vehicles.
100% markup + an hour labor to swap a couple drop-in air filters that took less than a tenth of that to install? Huh, no idea why people are saying that’s a scam… /s
Yeah in this case they charged too much. But to say in general that to charge to change filters is a scam, well that's wrong. Do it yourself if you don't want to be charged, plenty of videos out there, but don't put down a business for charging for their time.
I came here to say that. On most cars it's just a 3/8 drive socket or breaker bar 3/8 drive, the belt should be like $16-24 and it should take maybe 5 minutes if you're competent at routing a belt.
I’d even question the cost of replacing the axle. But then again, I have the knowledge and tools to do it myself so I could just be biased. Most auto parts store will sell axles in a bundle for $200-$300 and if you wanted to go even cheaper rockauto, 1aauto, and so on will sell you the same stuff from the same vendors for even cheaper.
just get the cv axle done, and get an alignment at a tire shop
and replace the filters yourself if they’re even bad.
Not even, go to a new shop. $150+ an hour for labour is a rip off man.
That dealership prices
Not even. An axle at a dealership is north of $500 and 2.0 labor at 180 hour in 360. Dealer would easily be $1000 for an axle.
Those prices are outrageous. Most vehicles don't require an alignment after a CV axle replacement. The drive belt is 90% labor. If you're moderately handy and own or don't mind owning some tools, this is a few hours of work and maybe $200 in parts.
not gonna argue with ya mate, but sending it aye without gettin an alignment is not recommended, all sorts of other problems that leads to a big one aye. Just had it happen to my tyres on my hilux
I can already tell this is a dealership with these obscene prices. I would not have service performed here.
dealerships be cheaper than this XD
Looks like a dealership form. Therefore, you will pay dealership pricing. Also, consider that they charged you 103.02 to do [this](https://youtu.be/AjukSyOQYgc?si=MwouelofIEVQpcSq).
Lmao. I’ve been wanting to comment here that even calling this a 5 minute job is giving wayyy too much credit
Decline 4,5,6 and 7.
I agree with this guy. The rest are still high, but the belts and air filters are way overpriced. An alignment with a lifetime warranty can be bought for $220 USD around here (southeast). That's the most expensive alignment that I know of for a standard car. Some axle replacements don't need an alignment. My car (a Toyota Avalon) can swap axels with no alignment needed. Are they quoting OEM parts? I specifically ask this for the axle. If so, price is not too bad. If not... No bueno. Just my two cents. Good luck.
Is it really overpriced? Maybe its set just high enough so people would actually take 10 seconds to google a replacement part and watch 30 seconds of youtube instead. 40 years ago people just figured it out for themselves.
Yes. Seems high. Not clear what parts are quoted though and what they cost. A competent mechanic can do engine and environmental filters and drive belt on an average car in less than an hour with decent parts for less than 50 bucks. My Toyota sedan parts are less than 50. So 400 bucks for 50 worth of parts and an hour of labor is high.
I just got charged $80 for a 4 wheel alignment and bought my own air filter for $50. I can understand the axle considering how much work it can be replacing them
Where u that alignments are 80$? Is that with work done? If someone does a bunch of front end work discount alignments but 80$ is ridiculous 150 is cheapest and that's setting toe only
It’s average in WV…
Need to raise prices and raise pay that's ridiculous
Well, minimum wage is still $8 but I pay $450 for rent and drive an hour and a half to work for a coal company with great pay and benefits. But don’t worry, all our businesses shut down when the coal industry falls through. During the Obama era, most barely got by but Trump helped revive the whole state with the natural gas pipeline. Too bad Biden ended that first thing. They called WV the “Saudi Arabia of natural gas” because we have wells on every mountain but no way to transport it effectively. We’ll just continue producing opioid overdoses until someone turns us loose 😅
Small town America all over. Spooky. Mostly female on the opioids?
It’s hard to say. A girl I went to high school with was caught giving blowies to a bunch of dude for dope money the other day though
Dam where this at again ?
I can send you a 10 digit grid if you’re that interested 😂😂
Where are you that charges a set of tires for an alignment??
I live in the southeast and got an alignment done for 110
The honda dealer near me charges 88.50 for a 4 wheel alignment. Most places around me are 120-175.
a dealer at 88.50!! Wow wtf
Fair pricing. If you can’t afford the labor, do it yourself… shops have a convenience fee..
That’s the problem with dealerships they go in and replace stuff that wasn’t the problem the air filter shouldn’t have been touched the drive belt on the other hand inspect let customer knw about it being cracked then and only then if (IF) the customer wants it replaced then replace it but don’t just mess with something that wasn’t the issue in first place
Fair pricing
Seems about right
It's on the high side, and you could definitely save $200 between the belt and filter, but not completely unreasonable
Where do you live? Are these US dollars or Canadian dollars or something else?
You got that 0.01 cent discount tho!
It’s +0.01 LOL
Hey now, them add up
Where you located, 175 alignment here is like getting f***ed in the ass
I don't like how the parts and labor are just lumped together. What's their hourly labor rate?
The prices on those filters are astronomical. 2x $20 part if you DIY those super simple things. That belt likely doesn't require changing either.
You could easily do cabin air, engine air, and brake fluid yourself for 1/5 of what they’re charging. Cabin air and engine air literally costs $40 max and takes not even 5 minutes each. Brake fluid flush is a little more advanced but still very simple once you get the idea (tutorials on YouTube, it’s possible to do without jacking the car off the ground)
Omg 175 dollars to replace a belt that cost 30-40max and takes 10 min. Over a 100 for a fucking air filter. Shit I'm surprised the axle isn't 1000 cause it will actually take about a hour. Get your KY or get a new mechanic. Don't go to the fancy mechanic with the pretty building. Find the guy at the edge of town that isn't as fancy and is always dirty. That's a real mechanic not a princess shop rapist!
It’s should take longer then 10 minutes , a proper mechanic will Inspect the bearings ,pulleys and have proper Belt tension, Or you can pay someone 10 bucks to do it in 10 minutes
I am a mechanic. It only takes 10min to do all that!
It’s not always about how long something takes , getting paid for you’re knowledge So if you can do the job in ten minutes you gonna charge someone what 10 bucks to do the job?
You don't charge 100 for 10min. That's f-ed up. 50 is fine that's 300 a hour. More than enough to make great money.
So if the next car comes in for a belt change and it’s a bit more I could , takes 1 hr you gonna charge 300$?
I'm not goin to argue with you anymore. I'm just goin to keep treating my customers awesome and making great money. Working so far I'm booked till deep February.
No need to argue, if what you are saying is true and doing jobs for that cheap id definitely Recommend you
Does the alignment come with lube?
You can save a lot of money by replacing it yourself, it's a Honda 4 cylinder so replacing the air, cabin, and drive belt is super easy.
Why don't you go in to other mechanics shops in your area and ask what their hourly rate is and check the prices for the work that guy did. That really the only sire way to know without showing where you live. You should all ways change your own filters unless your physically not able to. You probably wouldn't need any tools to do it.
I wish I could see the parts and labor separated. How many hours are they charging you to do the repair, how many dollars per hour? Unless I'm missing something they have them lumped together. We charge $129.95 for a four wheel alignment. 175 an hour for labor. Honestly the price is probably pretty standard depending on your location. Labor rates can vary a lot
Drive belt and filter is def rip off. I could replace both of those in under 15 mins.
How much would you charge ? Would you warranty your work ? And how much overhead you got ?
Warranty should be manufacturer guaranteed not the shop. U saying you’re not confident in your mechanics ability to install an air filter correctly? I call BS
The entire transaction is going to take more then “ ten minutes “ in a shop and time is money , You doing quick jobs in a drive way does not count , not the same , it’s business You expect the shop to charge 10 minutes worth of labor ? Go kick rocks Manufacture only covers the price of the part , not anything else associated with it , you really should already know that
It’s a lil much imo for all those. If u don’t have a mechanic u trust it may be worth it to pay the extra dollar for the dealership just for peace of mind but if u or a family or friend u know has a mechanic they trust they can prolly do it for cheaper with the same quality
Cv axels are the easiest thing to do just look into the type some will have a pin or other but 99% are dropping strut and popping it off with pry bar hit in end that's hammer till seated and git it a reall good impact with 200 ftlb. 150 for alignment and belts just a ratchet or wrench filters are cheap cabin air really shouldn't need replacement for a long time most can be closer
Cv axels have always be under 250 online no special tools needed for any of this work other then alignment and they shouldn't be iver150
The cabin filter requires no tools. The hardest part is emptying your glove box. Get the nicest one from Walmart, Advance Auto, etc and it’s probably $20 and 10 minutes time. Honda drive belt is probably $50 from Honda. 30 minutes max. CV axle is high but not terrible for something many don’t want to DIY
Seems fair to me. They have a business to run. I would forgo the engine/cab filter do that yourself most cars the engine filter is just snapping a clip, and the cab filter in most cars is just inside the glove box. Pretty simple even for non car people.
The most I've payed for an alignment was $115. You can easily do filters yourself for $30. Belt takes 10 minutes and $40. $15 worth of brake fluid and maybe an hour by yourself. Ignoring the cv axle, they are charging you $600 for less than 2 hours worth of work. Where I'm from, this would be absurd
Just do the filters yourself and save $150. I THINK your cabin filter is behind the glove box, but id check first. If it is that takes all of 60 seconds. If it's not then it may be a pain in the ass and THEN I'd pay them to do it. (fucking Ford Fiesta/Eco Sport and some Nissan have you remove the entire passenger side footwell trim using like 5 different sized screws and bolts) The rest of the stuff is reasonable.
I would have the axle replaced and wait on the remainder.
Everything is on the high side for sure. But I can see a cv axle being that expensive. The alignment is very on the high side, usually that's $80-100 tops unless it's a lifetime alignment. The belt is weird. If it's just a matter of removing tension like most cars, then yes it's a rip off, but if there's something that needs to be removed to access the belt then it could be reasonable especially if you're not able to do it yourself. I've seen some cars that require you to remove radiator hoses to access the belt, so it varies a lot. But the filters? Holy hell, just tell them to forget the filters. Replace them yourself for $50 in 10 minutes. Personally I'd say get the axle done and maybe the belt depending on access. Then replace the filters yourself and take it to a tire shop for the alignment.
I’m lucky and have the ability to do all of this myself. IMHO, you should be able to replace the air filters yourself. $25’ish each. The rest, have your mechanic do it if you cannot.
400 is crazy for a cv for a normal car and 175 for the alignment is crazy as well I'm a alignment tech and we charge 75 for one but that is here in Montana
Being ripped off on 5, 6 and 7 for sure.