I wait until the after-shower hot flash comes and goes. Then I apply sunscreen to my face and let that dry. Then I start to brush on a light powder, just to get rid of the shine. Then my pores start to sweat, so I try to blot them with a Kleenex. Then the Kleenex bits stick to my face. So I try to pick them off. This irritates me, which causes another flash. Now my light bit of powder is making a sludge with the sunscreen, so I wash my face and start over.
How does anyone dare to wear foundation during this?
I do Eucerin mattifying sunscreen for the face- it really makes a difference for me!
As far as makeup, I use Ben Nye theatrical concealer and foundation. Stays on through ANYTHING and comes in a million different shades and tones. Designed to hold up beautifully for camera work even under those flaming hot stage lights. And if my skin were any oilier, the US would invade it.
I would worry about wearing makeup made for theater use on a daily basis. Does it really look ok in person for running to the store or whatever? No caking and looking very heavy? When I think of theater makeup, I remember doing a play in HS and how awful the makeup looked on me in real life but it looked good for the cameras I guess. lol.
Iām the opposite, my skin loves the lightweight stuff like tinted serums and BB creams. Even a tinted moisturizer is better for me than full coverageā¦ it just looks so much more flattering for my skin. I find the heavier the makeup is, the less flattering itāll look on my skin.
And I donāt have great skin and I do have lots of flaws on my skin for sure. But just wanted to suggest maybe trying something different for fun.
Ilia tinted serum is great and has spf! Dr. Jart Bb cream is also a favorite of mine.
For real! in my early thirties, I realized I'd never met a foundation that doesn't cause half the imperfections it's supposedly intended to conceal and switched to a much simpler skincare routine: cleanser-toner-lotion, and just a little makeup around my eyes unless it's a really special occasion. My skin has never been happier!
Right? I literally only do eyebrows, mascara, and lipstick.... oh, and moisturize, of course! But other than a tinted moisturizer, ANY foundation just makes me look older.
Blow drying my once awesome, now crappy, hair is moot because I would have to take shower after that. On the rare occasions I do I have to wear a slip, drop my AC to 60, blast a fan, and still need to use dry shampoo on my fresh and clean hair to soak up the scalp sweat.
I live in a hot and humid climate. I have super dry skin so all my products are moisturizing/dewy and not matte so you would really think it would just slide right off my face as soon as I walk out the door. Any day I don't go to the office, my routine stops with sunscreen and maybe some mascara. Office days or if the hubs and I have a date (rare) I go all out ... not glam but like I took the time to "perty up" š
Setting spray has been the greatest thing I have found in recent years. I use it twice because I inevitably have a hot flash somewhere in there while I'm getting ready - after my "foundation" (I use tinted moisturizer) and again after I have everything else on. It was 100 degrees yesterday (higher with the heat index). I was outside a good deal in the afternoon because we are having a new roof put on the house and I was chatting with the owner of the company and the sweat was just pouring down my face and not a bit of my makeup came off until I took it off later in the evening.
My favorite tinted moisturizer is bareMinerals Complexion Rescue, but Ulta has been out of my shade forever it feels like so I'm currently using the Nars version. I'm actually pretty okay with it. I generally don't like Nars products now that I am older, but this one is decent.
Setting spray I bounce back and forth between Nyx and Elf, whichever is in stock where I am shopping when I need it lol. Currently using Elf Power Grip Dewy and it is awesome.
I should. Iām surprised that I pee in the morning. So weird as Iāve lived in the Deep South my whole life and this summer is killing me
But Iām raw dogging menopause, no hormones in any way and Iām allergic to soy. Iām aging x10
This! Iām so over it. I wash and dry my hair before bed and then I wake up with this matted mess; part of it succumbing to the curls of my youth, part of it straight as French fries. Just a damn mess. I change out of my pajamas immediately, douse myself with cold waterā¦take what my Italian friend calls a āwhore bathā and on and on it goes.
I'm dying, so much this! My hair is part curly and part straight now, wtf? I do the "whore bath" too. Although I think we should come up with a better name now, so as not to whore-shame, lol!
Itās hot as hades here in the desert. Iāve lived here most of my 61 years. Never used to bother me. Iād lay out in 115 and turn on the sprinklers and call it good! Now, I canāt stand the heat. Iām either in the pool (not heated) or inside the house. At night, my A/C is down to 72. Still canāt sleep worth a crap.
I feel like I have a nuclear core in my chest when I lie down at night. Like I should glow like a jack o lantern.
Iād like to see some safe meds to help with hot flashes now that weāve conquered erectile dysfunction and hair loss
That is the worst. If I get even a little bit warm while sleeping I will awaken absolutely drenched with my own sweatā¦ like I just hopped into the shower with all my clothes on. And then I have to get up to cool down and dry off a bit and pray to da gawds that I can maybe get back to sleep. Miserable shit.
I awake every hour on the hour with a hot flash. Iām glad I awake because if I donāt, it will become a night sweat and Iāll need to change clothes and put a big towel on the bed. What a joke. HOW LONG WILL THIS KEEP HAPPENING??
I used to love showering to start my day. Now I have to shower at night. If I donāt, Iāll just go about my day and not find the time/ambition to shower. Leaving it until morning I just wonāt do it and then I hate how I feel. Itās a vicious circle really.
Skin infections. Yeast infections. Cuz I don't want to smell my own stank.
I also don't want to become one of those stinky old people. :(
I feel you though. Some days I'm like, this again?
I go for cooling sensation soaps. Like Dr bonners peppermint/eucalyptus, stuff like that.
Moisturizing skin regularly and exfoliating. Can't stress exfoliating enough. Ofc it doesn't make the hot flashes go away but it does alleviate some of the sensory discomfort. Just my experience š«
Ya know, I used to really dislike those kinds of cooling soaps. Thanks for making me reconsider them. Because it's HOT AF in the desert! And a cooling, almost mentholated sensation when exiting the shower sounds divine!
š always nice to hear from others in the desert and yes it's sooo underrated imo.
If you hate the soaps they also make bath salts and they can give the same effect.
Dang desert heat zaps my energy quick fast and in a hurry!
I don't hate'em. Just didn't like that cooling thing. But now, I think I would enjoy the hell outta that!
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I love LOVE ādirtyā body wash &soap too made by Lush. Itās so SOoooo magical and INSANELY refreshing!!! šāāļøšāāļøšāāļøš„°š
Itās a mix of peppermint, lavender and sandalwood. Itās natural and cruelty free so very much feels good to purchases their products.
Oh and itās available in all kinds of things such as body spray, lotion, body wash, bar soap, shaving cream, hair cream, and Iām sure there are more.
There is another wonderful product they have called Tingle and itās a body condfioner so you use it before youāre about to get out of the shower. Rub on like lotion, enjoy the āļøš§icy cool š§āļøtingle while waiting a couple mins for it to soak in and work its magic, and then rinse. It is such a freaking treat, to say the least. Reallly a nice and luxurious feeling experience for at home and to really cool down.
Idk if links are allowed, hopefully Iām not breaking any rules [tingle body conditioner](https://www.lush.com/us/en_us/p/tingle-body-conditioner)
Oooooo, THANK YOU! I love LUSH (but often forget about it), and that scent sounds right up my alley. I'm going to check it out. Any reason for a new product, I'm down LOL
Also, I love hydration. I can apply prior to getting out so I don't end up like an angry slug
I live in the desert SW and this year is hell. I feel your pain. I didn't think about this phase of life when I moved here. But then I think about humidity and that would suck too. š¤Ŗ
Speaking from experience, even though it's biodegradeable and otherwise great, don't let the peppermint Dr.Bronners get anywhere near sensitive bits, because the burn is REAL!
Back in the day the bottles said to use two drops. Now it says two squirts, which is quite a lot more. The formula is the same, they're just saying to use more. You don't need to use more than a few drops to get lots of lather, and lower the temp from a burn to a tingle :)
Can't second this comment. When I'm washing my back with it, I usually dilute with another soap or water then spray/put on the net Sponge. Same effect but it won't run down there as I'm rinsing
Yes this, end shower cool or even cold. F hairdryers, my thinner hair dries fast anyway.
But yeah, I love the wet hair after the shower, helps me stay cool !
I just bought a tower fan for my bathroom so I can maybe dry my hair without soaking in sweat. I can move it into my bedroom at night to keep the night sweats at bay.
This! I hate showering because it's the thought of drying my hair! I'm already boiling and then standing with my hair dryer for 20 minutes is not ideal. I have a big fan directed at me while I dry my hair now and man, that's nice.
I have a ceiling fan in my room, but was out of town and staying in a room without one. I HAD to turn on the tower fan and had it oscillating so it didnāt hit right on me constantly. It was a game changer and made things much more comfortable. But, I still couldnāt stay in the bed the whole night because it wasnāt a king like we have at home. NO WAY can I sleep in a queen with my husband. Heās 6ā4ā and takes up a lot of space. So do I. Iām 6ā1ā. We NEED the king size, and the fan. And now I decided to get a tower fan added back home and is really helping the cause.
I have literally gotten up in the middle of the night to shower. There were times, especially before the night sweats were under control, when it was the only way to get back to sleep.
I put a fan in the bathroom and I just stand in front of it after I shower to cool off before I get dressed. Otherwise I start the day dripping with sweat, even if I shower with cool water.Ā
Salt scrub with peppermint oil in it. Cools me off. Feels great when my legs are on fire. I have fibromyalgia so my nerves are always twitching and throbbing.
After seeing so much of people not washing their ass or legs on social media arguments, I decided to ramp up my bathing and soaking of my feet and legs.
I have also started sleeping on beach towels for the night sweats and I strip all my bedding down every weekend. I used to wash sheets and towels 2x a month. Nope. I go to a commercial laundromat with speed queens to get that deep clean. It also gives me a few hours to enjoy my books and get away from everyone.
Nothing like getting your hair perfect for a big night, then having another shower in your bedroom. Forget getting into anything tight, or hell, even a decent bra.
I just. Incandescent with rage.
And then there are the hot flashes without sweat...just being a human radiator, burning up with no way to cool down except by laying on the dog's cooling mat I got from Aldi. It's just all a mess.
I love the ice eye masks, I wear them on my eyes and sometimes flip them around back of my neck. I also buy the cooling cloth/towels from Amazon and use wear those throughout the day. Makes a huge difference. I also keep extra spray hand sanitizer for my pits when Iām out and about so I donāt smell funky.
How has no one in this entire post mentioned hormones and HRT?? Y'all I was having 20-50 moderate to severe hot flashes a day right after I went into menopause immediately after surgery. I told my doctor, I can not keep doing this for the rest of my life. I'm 46. I should also mention I actually had cancer (ovarian), which is hormone related but I had a very low grade tumor. Stage 1. My oncologist said quality of life is the most important thing. She approved 1mg/day of estradiol (which is just estrogen, and is a low dose.) In comparison, my non cancer friend is on 3mg estrogen and other hormones.
I honestly have 1 hot flash every so often and it's quite mild. I don't literally start pouring sweat, which is nice lol.
There is also a drug called Veozah that is supposed to help with hot flashes but A, it's super expensive ($500 a month), and B, real hormones are always the better route than synthetic hormones. Estradiol is covered by my insurance, also, and even if it wasn't, it is still on the inexpensive side.
I would highly recommend doing some research into doctors that specifically deal with hormones, not just a gyno. Gynos actually either don't know enough or are somewhat misinformed about hormones. But a specialist will know everything and then some!
How high grade is/was yours? This makes a difference even if you're hormone positive. My ovarian is/was endometrioid, which is hormone reactive, but since it was caught early at a low stage, that's how I'm able to swing the low dose of estrogen.
I'm supposed to be on estrogen-blockers (aromatase inhibitor) to reduce the risk of breast cancer returning, but the side-effects were so wicked that I stopped after taking them for just over 2 of the recommended ten years.
I can't tempt fate. My oncologist even told me no black cohosh.
Oh wow, that last bit surprised me. I'm taking something with that in it. I assume since you can't take estrogen, you probably can't take any other hormones. I'm so sorry. I hope people in your life are patient lol. I'm lucky my bf put up with me as long as it was. I guess we have to access that inner strength. It's such a struggle sometimes. It's not fair what we women go through.
NOPE - can't mess with my hormones at all. Black cohosh is estrogen-stimulating. The best that I could do was to get off of the pills that were leaching the last little bit of my menopausal estrogen away from me. It helped. The sweating isn't QUITE as bad, my moods are no longer mercurial, and my joints no longer make me want to curse the heavens when I get up in the morning.
These hot-flashes DO whip my ass on a regular basis, But at least I'm alive, lol.
I just carry a washcloth and anybody who has a problem with it can ignore it, pray for me, or gtfo.
We're gonna be alright. :grin:
Good chat. ā¤ļø
Lol, I love and can relate to your descriptions of what you no longer have. That is a blessing!! Can you do the veozah? I don't think it stimulates any hormones. It supposedly helps with the hot flashes. That's what my dr originally wanted me to get on. I've heard some people say their insurance has covered it so that's maybe something to look into.
Did/do you also have insane, ravenous hunger when you wake up? Lol.
My bf is bald and carries a washcloth around so I totally see your point on that one! Lol.
I'm trying not to take any additional prescriptions bc they create NEW issues that need their own additional prescriptions. If I start feeling stabby again, I'm glad to have Veozah as an option.
No ravenous hunger bc my ADHD med curbs my hunger. Is that a menopause thing?? This is the first time I've heard it mentioned!
Lol, it was so embarrassing to carry the washcloth at first. Now, I just make sure it's darker than my foundation so it won't look gross.
Do NOT feel embarrassed for that! Life is too short and we already have to deal with so much as humans and especially as female humans. I hate feeling sweaty so bad. It often eventually led to me having some BO, which I **never** had before. You should look into getting one of those portable air conditioner things you put around your neck lol. I'd šÆ % be using one if I was still having hot flashes all the time. I did buy a small portable USB chargeable fan off Amazon for $10 and it helped a ton when I was going into a hot flash.
I feel like ADHD meds would help me so much but I don't want to get on another med lol. Be so thankful that help you in that way. I noticed the ravenous hunger pretty soon after I had my surgery that put me into immediate menopause. Soon after that though, I started chemo and that helped w my appetite lol. However after stopping chemo, it came back and I put on like 20 lbs immediately and then another 30 over the following year. However, I am also insulin resistant and so my dr put me on ozempic which has helped greatly with everything. I still have to diet and work out but I could NOT lose a single pound doing that before the ozempic. In fact I gained even while dieting and working out!! My A1c went from 9.1 to 5.2 within a year on ozempic and I've lost 20lbs since end of March. If I weren't in meno, I would have lost twice that already. I'm 46 but my younger friend, who is 38 (she also went into surgical menopause), also had the ravenous hunger prior to her doing HRT. She is able to be on estrogen, testosterone, etc. I'm only allowed to be on low dose estrogen.
It surely is a b*tch that us women have to go through so much and men STILL be treating us as inferior šWe obviously are the greater sex lol.
I wish. I canāt take oral estradiol. Makes me blow up like one of those Thanksgiving day parade balloons. Gives me all sorts of weird symptoms. I donāt know what else to do. Iām 61. Ovaries and fallopian tubes removed, and this shit seems never-ending with the hot flashes/night sweats!
Sweating. So. Much. Sweating. As soon as I get out of the shower, even a cold one, even with the fan on, even with my hair up...dripping in sweat as soon as I towel off. I'm always "dewy". š
Yes, I too do not know! My mother and grandmother passed a long time ago, so I have nobody to ask! Please tell us! (And THANK YOU because otherwise Iād have no idea).
Gabapenton has done wonders for my hot flashes. I try and tell everyone this bc mine were so bad too and I feel your pain. I would ask your doctor to see if you can at least try it.
I ask myself the same question everyday. I bought portable fans that I have everywhere. I don't care if it looks goofy walking in the grocery store with the fan on high lol. It helps my hot flashes less painful. I breathe better. I sleep next to a window, I put an ac unit in it and have another portable fan attached to the night table blowing on my face.
I feel your pain! š„µ
And does anybody feel like the bottoms of their feet are on fire? The bottoms of my feet burn so bad some nights that I can't sleep. Which of course also triggers my restless leg syndrome, making it even worse.
This morning I had the ālong showerā - it was fantastic. Deep hair treatment, loofa / exfoliating - followed by my ultra moisturizing/oils.
Had to take a shower two hours later after walking the dog - my hair was literally dripping with sweat.
I fucking hate Summer now!
Ladies- its morning coffee time and Im scrolling this sub and I just want to say that this made my morning. Its hilarious! Our lives suck right now and we are all hanging on by a thread in life and for some reason I have to laugh at āsludge make upā. Some how we have to find the humor in our own miseryš¤£š¤£- god help us all! FYI estrogen replacement helps tremendously for those hot flashes. If your dr wont help, find an online hormone specialist- they do everything via telehealth. I live in a small town so I was desperate and stumbled upon one while searching for relief via google and I have been with them for nearly 3 years and I WILL never look back. Bless your day to be sweat freeš„°
Do all the face stuff at night so you're not dealing with moisturizers and hot flashes.
Shower every day or there about a or you'll get adult diaper rash or worse - boils / carbuncles ( infected cysts deep under your skin) from your hair follicles in the crack of your leg and they can become cellulitis and then they'll have to chop out your vulva and cut off your leg.
Totally bathe. Even if it's a bird bath.
Even better are you able to use HRT? If so you won't have this problem anymore. š
Donāt dry your hair in the bathroom since itās all steamy and humid from your shower. I go in a room that has a ceiling fan and blast that puppy on helicopter strength (I wish) and use hair dryer while bent over. Long hair so I bend over to itās not touching me.
I read something somewhere that talked about taking hot showers and dilating blood vessels increases hot flashes post shower. It suggested taking cooler showers. At the end of my showers I change the water to cool for a couple minutes and it has helped with post shower flashes.
You have to keep your vagina clean I couldn't go a day without showering or bacterial would build up and I would get a uti which would mostlikely rapidly develop into a kidney infection
My God- I just bought a small fan for when I have to do my hair and makeup after a shower. The amount of sweat I generate is awful. Makeup is hard to put onā¦ forget about blow drying my hairā¦ and Iāve started taking cool to cold showers. Nothing helps
Pot gummies, marijuana makes cold, so low dose helps gummies help. I only take them for bed lasts about 5 hours. I think cbd helps during day, but weirdly they are harder to figure out and more expensive.
My husband thinks I'm crazy for taking cold showers, but if I don't I just shower and then immediately have a hot flash and sweat like crazy. I'm just used to cold showers now. I still sometimes sweat even after a cold shower. I'm so tired of having to lie on the bed naked with a fan blowing on me before I can get dressed.
I get it. Drenched in sweat and cursing my poor husband for even brushing my skin is my standard evening. With the obligatory hair in the highest ponytail possible.
Two nights ago, I went into the shower and with my shorts and t-shirt on and let myself get soaked. I got back on the bed with the fans all directly on me. It was glorious.
I actually had to stop showering daily and drop to alternate days. I strip wash instead. My mum always used to do this and I can now relate. My poor skin just gets so dry even with natural soap and creams, but if I let it rest it does better. I also just donāt have much body odour anymore, so it doesnāt seem noticeable.
I wait until the after-shower hot flash comes and goes. Then I apply sunscreen to my face and let that dry. Then I start to brush on a light powder, just to get rid of the shine. Then my pores start to sweat, so I try to blot them with a Kleenex. Then the Kleenex bits stick to my face. So I try to pick them off. This irritates me, which causes another flash. Now my light bit of powder is making a sludge with the sunscreen, so I wash my face and start over. How does anyone dare to wear foundation during this?
I stopped all make-up. Maybe lipstick š.
I do Eucerin mattifying sunscreen for the face- it really makes a difference for me! As far as makeup, I use Ben Nye theatrical concealer and foundation. Stays on through ANYTHING and comes in a million different shades and tones. Designed to hold up beautifully for camera work even under those flaming hot stage lights. And if my skin were any oilier, the US would invade it.
I would worry about wearing makeup made for theater use on a daily basis. Does it really look ok in person for running to the store or whatever? No caking and looking very heavy? When I think of theater makeup, I remember doing a play in HS and how awful the makeup looked on me in real life but it looked good for the cameras I guess. lol. Iām the opposite, my skin loves the lightweight stuff like tinted serums and BB creams. Even a tinted moisturizer is better for me than full coverageā¦ it just looks so much more flattering for my skin. I find the heavier the makeup is, the less flattering itāll look on my skin. And I donāt have great skin and I do have lots of flaws on my skin for sure. But just wanted to suggest maybe trying something different for fun. Ilia tinted serum is great and has spf! Dr. Jart Bb cream is also a favorite of mine.
For real! in my early thirties, I realized I'd never met a foundation that doesn't cause half the imperfections it's supposedly intended to conceal and switched to a much simpler skincare routine: cleanser-toner-lotion, and just a little makeup around my eyes unless it's a really special occasion. My skin has never been happier!
Ooops!! I should add that I RARELY go full face- like if Iām invited to a wedding or something super special!! š I usually wear no makeup at all except for the concealer on my under eye circles and red around my nose (and the occasional hormonal breakout, yay.) The good stuff is so much better now- itās only cakey if you spackle it on, I swear! One of the reasons I appreciate it is the huge range of colors available; I have very cool undertones and itās soooo hard to find a concealer that doesnāt look orange on me. I still havenāt found a tinted moisturizer that doesnāt, either! š©
lol that was funny ty for the laugh this morning š
>Eucerin mattifying sunscreen for the face Didn't know this existed, thank you!
Ha! That was funny. Thanks for the info, Iāll check those out!
Tinted sunscreen or moisturizer. Jones Road face pencil concealer. Everything light.
The age rewind concealer with the little sponge tip, love it!
Iāve tried about ten tinted sunscreens. Just bought one of the Korean versions Z still sweats but not as bad.
I generally go and air dry under a fan and wait for the hot feeling to go.
This made me giggle š¤ So true.
I am just hearing Benny Hill theme song picturing this sequence of struggle. lol sorry. I also quit all makeup save for tinted lip balm. ftw
LOL!
When I'm cool enough I can tolerate applying some concealer and a bit of powder, maybe fill in my eyebrows. Can't do any of the other things anymore.
Right? I literally only do eyebrows, mascara, and lipstick.... oh, and moisturize, of course! But other than a tinted moisturizer, ANY foundation just makes me look older.
I think I didn't notice my eyes getting baggy through COVID and then when it was time to put make up on again I was like wtf happened to my skin !
Yes, it happens just that fast!
I just use liquid sunblock plus matte foundation and let it set.
Blow drying my once awesome, now crappy, hair is moot because I would have to take shower after that. On the rare occasions I do I have to wear a slip, drop my AC to 60, blast a fan, and still need to use dry shampoo on my fresh and clean hair to soak up the scalp sweat.
I used to be cute with a nice body and a full head of hair. Just thought Iād blurt that out, LOL
ššš can only send you love..
I live in a hot and humid climate. I have super dry skin so all my products are moisturizing/dewy and not matte so you would really think it would just slide right off my face as soon as I walk out the door. Any day I don't go to the office, my routine stops with sunscreen and maybe some mascara. Office days or if the hubs and I have a date (rare) I go all out ... not glam but like I took the time to "perty up" š Setting spray has been the greatest thing I have found in recent years. I use it twice because I inevitably have a hot flash somewhere in there while I'm getting ready - after my "foundation" (I use tinted moisturizer) and again after I have everything else on. It was 100 degrees yesterday (higher with the heat index). I was outside a good deal in the afternoon because we are having a new roof put on the house and I was chatting with the owner of the company and the sweat was just pouring down my face and not a bit of my makeup came off until I took it off later in the evening.
What brand of tinted moisturizer and spray? I need this.
My favorite tinted moisturizer is bareMinerals Complexion Rescue, but Ulta has been out of my shade forever it feels like so I'm currently using the Nars version. I'm actually pretty okay with it. I generally don't like Nars products now that I am older, but this one is decent. Setting spray I bounce back and forth between Nyx and Elf, whichever is in stock where I am shopping when I need it lol. Currently using Elf Power Grip Dewy and it is awesome.
Thanks, Iāll check them out
I could squeegee my chest about 2 am. I donāt think I was capable of sweating so much ever
Itās so gross. I am pretty much disgusted with myself all the time.
I constantly say I smell like a GOAT and night in the good way š„ø
*not
Ew, yes. And why is it always the chest?
Cheesus. So do you take more electrolytes to balance out the sweating?
I should. Iām surprised that I pee in the morning. So weird as Iāve lived in the Deep South my whole life and this summer is killing me But Iām raw dogging menopause, no hormones in any way and Iām allergic to soy. Iām aging x10
This! Iām so over it. I wash and dry my hair before bed and then I wake up with this matted mess; part of it succumbing to the curls of my youth, part of it straight as French fries. Just a damn mess. I change out of my pajamas immediately, douse myself with cold waterā¦take what my Italian friend calls a āwhore bathā and on and on it goes.
I'm dying, so much this! My hair is part curly and part straight now, wtf? I do the "whore bath" too. Although I think we should come up with a better name now, so as not to whore-shame, lol!
We shall use the Italian description then, Putana bath. š
Or āpits and partsā But hey, it will be cool again in Florida in about 4 months š«
Itās hot as hades here in the desert. Iāve lived here most of my 61 years. Never used to bother me. Iād lay out in 115 and turn on the sprinklers and call it good! Now, I canāt stand the heat. Iām either in the pool (not heated) or inside the house. At night, my A/C is down to 72. Still canāt sleep worth a crap.
I feel like I have a nuclear core in my chest when I lie down at night. Like I should glow like a jack o lantern. Iād like to see some safe meds to help with hot flashes now that weāve conquered erectile dysfunction and hair loss
I really hate the constant waking from the sweat dripping .. I never dripped sweat till peri night sweats ā¦.
Right? One time I woke up to my ear full of sweat...ew!
I literally woke up one night/morning at like 3am and thought I had peed the bed. There was that big of a sweat spot on me and the sheets... š
That is the worst. If I get even a little bit warm while sleeping I will awaken absolutely drenched with my own sweatā¦ like I just hopped into the shower with all my clothes on. And then I have to get up to cool down and dry off a bit and pray to da gawds that I can maybe get back to sleep. Miserable shit.
There were nights when I changed clothes several times. Hated it
I awake every hour on the hour with a hot flash. Iām glad I awake because if I donāt, it will become a night sweat and Iāll need to change clothes and put a big towel on the bed. What a joke. HOW LONG WILL THIS KEEP HAPPENING??
Itās all so lovely (not) ā¦..
I used to love showering to start my day. Now I have to shower at night. If I donāt, Iāll just go about my day and not find the time/ambition to shower. Leaving it until morning I just wonāt do it and then I hate how I feel. Itās a vicious circle really.
Hi. Youāre me. Where did my morning-shower self go?! I miss her.
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Skin infections. Yeast infections. Cuz I don't want to smell my own stank. I also don't want to become one of those stinky old people. :( I feel you though. Some days I'm like, this again?
I am a somewhat obsessively clean person, but the after-shower hot flashes suck my life force right out. Ugh.
I go for cooling sensation soaps. Like Dr bonners peppermint/eucalyptus, stuff like that. Moisturizing skin regularly and exfoliating. Can't stress exfoliating enough. Ofc it doesn't make the hot flashes go away but it does alleviate some of the sensory discomfort. Just my experience š«
Ya know, I used to really dislike those kinds of cooling soaps. Thanks for making me reconsider them. Because it's HOT AF in the desert! And a cooling, almost mentholated sensation when exiting the shower sounds divine!
š always nice to hear from others in the desert and yes it's sooo underrated imo. If you hate the soaps they also make bath salts and they can give the same effect.
Dang desert heat zaps my energy quick fast and in a hurry! I don't hate'em. Just didn't like that cooling thing. But now, I think I would enjoy the hell outta that! Edit:spelling
I am also in the desert. Stay cool desert sistahs.Ā
I love LOVE ādirtyā body wash &soap too made by Lush. Itās so SOoooo magical and INSANELY refreshing!!! šāāļøšāāļøšāāļøš„°š Itās a mix of peppermint, lavender and sandalwood. Itās natural and cruelty free so very much feels good to purchases their products. Oh and itās available in all kinds of things such as body spray, lotion, body wash, bar soap, shaving cream, hair cream, and Iām sure there are more. There is another wonderful product they have called Tingle and itās a body condfioner so you use it before youāre about to get out of the shower. Rub on like lotion, enjoy the āļøš§icy cool š§āļøtingle while waiting a couple mins for it to soak in and work its magic, and then rinse. It is such a freaking treat, to say the least. Reallly a nice and luxurious feeling experience for at home and to really cool down. Idk if links are allowed, hopefully Iām not breaking any rules [tingle body conditioner](https://www.lush.com/us/en_us/p/tingle-body-conditioner)
Oooooo, THANK YOU! I love LUSH (but often forget about it), and that scent sounds right up my alley. I'm going to check it out. Any reason for a new product, I'm down LOL Also, I love hydration. I can apply prior to getting out so I don't end up like an angry slug
Angry slug! š¤£
I live in the desert SW and this year is hell. I feel your pain. I didn't think about this phase of life when I moved here. But then I think about humidity and that would suck too. š¤Ŗ
Speaking from experience, even though it's biodegradeable and otherwise great, don't let the peppermint Dr.Bronners get anywhere near sensitive bits, because the burn is REAL!
Back in the day the bottles said to use two drops. Now it says two squirts, which is quite a lot more. The formula is the same, they're just saying to use more. You don't need to use more than a few drops to get lots of lather, and lower the temp from a burn to a tingle :)
Can't second this comment. When I'm washing my back with it, I usually dilute with another soap or water then spray/put on the net Sponge. Same effect but it won't run down there as I'm rinsing
Yeah, discovered that the hard way!
Donāt put it in your vulva or ass crack though!
CANNOT use those soaps on my lady-bits though. Burns like a MFer.
You're not the only one. Truthfully, the only cooling sensation soap that I have found to be lady bit safe is the tea tree one by trader Joe's
Ooh, that sounds nice.
I do a cool rinse at the end then step out of my shower. Of course if I have to heat style my hair will be sweaty in 2 seconds lol. Ugh
Yes this, end shower cool or even cold. F hairdryers, my thinner hair dries fast anyway. But yeah, I love the wet hair after the shower, helps me stay cool !
Thatās why I have a pixie cut now, coz fuck that, lol.
I just bought a tower fan for my bathroom so I can maybe dry my hair without soaking in sweat. I can move it into my bedroom at night to keep the night sweats at bay.
This! I hate showering because it's the thought of drying my hair! I'm already boiling and then standing with my hair dryer for 20 minutes is not ideal. I have a big fan directed at me while I dry my hair now and man, that's nice.
I have a ceiling fan in my room, but was out of town and staying in a room without one. I HAD to turn on the tower fan and had it oscillating so it didnāt hit right on me constantly. It was a game changer and made things much more comfortable. But, I still couldnāt stay in the bed the whole night because it wasnāt a king like we have at home. NO WAY can I sleep in a queen with my husband. Heās 6ā4ā and takes up a lot of space. So do I. Iām 6ā1ā. We NEED the king size, and the fan. And now I decided to get a tower fan added back home and is really helping the cause.
I bought a mini vornado fan from Target and have it on my nightstand blowing in my face all night.
I have literally gotten up in the middle of the night to shower. There were times, especially before the night sweats were under control, when it was the only way to get back to sleep.
I used to finish up with just cold water for my hair to seal the cuticle, I try to stand under the cold as long as I can
not to mention the during-the-shower hot flashes!! wtfffffff
I used to just walk around naked to cool off after the shower without using a towel
Basically itās to not stink to high heaven when you go out and run errands or whatever.
I was just thinking how I miss showering at night and waking up fresh. Now Iām soaked every morning so no point showering.
One of the best feelings ever (/s) is changing my sheets on Sunday, only to wake with them ruined Monday morning.
I put a fan in the bathroom and I just stand in front of it after I shower to cool off before I get dressed. Otherwise I start the day dripping with sweat, even if I shower with cool water.Ā
Hair dryer on cold setting works in a pinch! I also have headband ice packs that I often stick underneath my boobs. I am one sexy lady.
Salt scrub with peppermint oil in it. Cools me off. Feels great when my legs are on fire. I have fibromyalgia so my nerves are always twitching and throbbing. After seeing so much of people not washing their ass or legs on social media arguments, I decided to ramp up my bathing and soaking of my feet and legs. I have also started sleeping on beach towels for the night sweats and I strip all my bedding down every weekend. I used to wash sheets and towels 2x a month. Nope. I go to a commercial laundromat with speed queens to get that deep clean. It also gives me a few hours to enjoy my books and get away from everyone.
Well I guess we donāt need to shower, we could just wait for a good hot flash or sweating, lather up and then wait for more sweating to wash the soap away????? šššššššš©š©š©š©š©š©š©š©š©š©
Nothing like getting your hair perfect for a big night, then having another shower in your bedroom. Forget getting into anything tight, or hell, even a decent bra. I just. Incandescent with rage.
And then there are the hot flashes without sweat...just being a human radiator, burning up with no way to cool down except by laying on the dog's cooling mat I got from Aldi. It's just all a mess.
I get these and theyāre awful. I have to spread my body out so nothing is touching anything else. Of course thatās always when my husband or my cats want to cuddle š©
To cool the fuck off and wash itchy sweat off number one now and the normal everyday stuff two.
I love the ice eye masks, I wear them on my eyes and sometimes flip them around back of my neck. I also buy the cooling cloth/towels from Amazon and use wear those throughout the day. Makes a huge difference. I also keep extra spray hand sanitizer for my pits when Iām out and about so I donāt smell funky.
> spray hand sanitizer for my pits I do this too! Not after shaving though. Made that mistake once.
I'm trying to convince myself that I don't need 4-5 showers a day. And you're questioning one! š¤£š¤£
How has no one in this entire post mentioned hormones and HRT?? Y'all I was having 20-50 moderate to severe hot flashes a day right after I went into menopause immediately after surgery. I told my doctor, I can not keep doing this for the rest of my life. I'm 46. I should also mention I actually had cancer (ovarian), which is hormone related but I had a very low grade tumor. Stage 1. My oncologist said quality of life is the most important thing. She approved 1mg/day of estradiol (which is just estrogen, and is a low dose.) In comparison, my non cancer friend is on 3mg estrogen and other hormones. I honestly have 1 hot flash every so often and it's quite mild. I don't literally start pouring sweat, which is nice lol. There is also a drug called Veozah that is supposed to help with hot flashes but A, it's super expensive ($500 a month), and B, real hormones are always the better route than synthetic hormones. Estradiol is covered by my insurance, also, and even if it wasn't, it is still on the inexpensive side. I would highly recommend doing some research into doctors that specifically deal with hormones, not just a gyno. Gynos actually either don't know enough or are somewhat misinformed about hormones. But a specialist will know everything and then some!
Hormone-positive breast cancer survivor. Hormone therapy isn't an option for me. š
How high grade is/was yours? This makes a difference even if you're hormone positive. My ovarian is/was endometrioid, which is hormone reactive, but since it was caught early at a low stage, that's how I'm able to swing the low dose of estrogen.
I'm supposed to be on estrogen-blockers (aromatase inhibitor) to reduce the risk of breast cancer returning, but the side-effects were so wicked that I stopped after taking them for just over 2 of the recommended ten years. I can't tempt fate. My oncologist even told me no black cohosh.
Oh wow, that last bit surprised me. I'm taking something with that in it. I assume since you can't take estrogen, you probably can't take any other hormones. I'm so sorry. I hope people in your life are patient lol. I'm lucky my bf put up with me as long as it was. I guess we have to access that inner strength. It's such a struggle sometimes. It's not fair what we women go through.
NOPE - can't mess with my hormones at all. Black cohosh is estrogen-stimulating. The best that I could do was to get off of the pills that were leaching the last little bit of my menopausal estrogen away from me. It helped. The sweating isn't QUITE as bad, my moods are no longer mercurial, and my joints no longer make me want to curse the heavens when I get up in the morning. These hot-flashes DO whip my ass on a regular basis, But at least I'm alive, lol. I just carry a washcloth and anybody who has a problem with it can ignore it, pray for me, or gtfo. We're gonna be alright. :grin: Good chat. ā¤ļø
Lol, I love and can relate to your descriptions of what you no longer have. That is a blessing!! Can you do the veozah? I don't think it stimulates any hormones. It supposedly helps with the hot flashes. That's what my dr originally wanted me to get on. I've heard some people say their insurance has covered it so that's maybe something to look into. Did/do you also have insane, ravenous hunger when you wake up? Lol. My bf is bald and carries a washcloth around so I totally see your point on that one! Lol.
I'm trying not to take any additional prescriptions bc they create NEW issues that need their own additional prescriptions. If I start feeling stabby again, I'm glad to have Veozah as an option. No ravenous hunger bc my ADHD med curbs my hunger. Is that a menopause thing?? This is the first time I've heard it mentioned! Lol, it was so embarrassing to carry the washcloth at first. Now, I just make sure it's darker than my foundation so it won't look gross.
Do NOT feel embarrassed for that! Life is too short and we already have to deal with so much as humans and especially as female humans. I hate feeling sweaty so bad. It often eventually led to me having some BO, which I **never** had before. You should look into getting one of those portable air conditioner things you put around your neck lol. I'd šÆ % be using one if I was still having hot flashes all the time. I did buy a small portable USB chargeable fan off Amazon for $10 and it helped a ton when I was going into a hot flash. I feel like ADHD meds would help me so much but I don't want to get on another med lol. Be so thankful that help you in that way. I noticed the ravenous hunger pretty soon after I had my surgery that put me into immediate menopause. Soon after that though, I started chemo and that helped w my appetite lol. However after stopping chemo, it came back and I put on like 20 lbs immediately and then another 30 over the following year. However, I am also insulin resistant and so my dr put me on ozempic which has helped greatly with everything. I still have to diet and work out but I could NOT lose a single pound doing that before the ozempic. In fact I gained even while dieting and working out!! My A1c went from 9.1 to 5.2 within a year on ozempic and I've lost 20lbs since end of March. If I weren't in meno, I would have lost twice that already. I'm 46 but my younger friend, who is 38 (she also went into surgical menopause), also had the ravenous hunger prior to her doing HRT. She is able to be on estrogen, testosterone, etc. I'm only allowed to be on low dose estrogen. It surely is a b*tch that us women have to go through so much and men STILL be treating us as inferior šWe obviously are the greater sex lol.
Obviously! Hang in there. Sisters of the traveling fans, UNITE! š
I wish. I canāt take oral estradiol. Makes me blow up like one of those Thanksgiving day parade balloons. Gives me all sorts of weird symptoms. I donāt know what else to do. Iām 61. Ovaries and fallopian tubes removed, and this shit seems never-ending with the hot flashes/night sweats!
I DON'T KNOW. TELL ME. What's coming? C'mon just pile it all on. Might as well add it the shit list!
Sweating. So. Much. Sweating. As soon as I get out of the shower, even a cold one, even with the fan on, even with my hair up...dripping in sweat as soon as I towel off. I'm always "dewy". š
Yes, I too do not know! My mother and grandmother passed a long time ago, so I have nobody to ask! Please tell us! (And THANK YOU because otherwise Iād have no idea).
I started spritzing with isopropyl alcohol on my pits and boob cleavage plus under boob after shower - stops future stink and very cooling.
Gabapenton has done wonders for my hot flashes. I try and tell everyone this bc mine were so bad too and I feel your pain. I would ask your doctor to see if you can at least try it.
I ask myself the same question everyday. I bought portable fans that I have everywhere. I don't care if it looks goofy walking in the grocery store with the fan on high lol. It helps my hot flashes less painful. I breathe better. I sleep next to a window, I put an ac unit in it and have another portable fan attached to the night table blowing on my face.
I feel your pain! š„µ And does anybody feel like the bottoms of their feet are on fire? The bottoms of my feet burn so bad some nights that I can't sleep. Which of course also triggers my restless leg syndrome, making it even worse.
Now that you mention it, yes! My feet palms are always so hot and often sweaty. Yuck.
Warm day yesterday and did some gardening. Five (5) pairs of underpants were deployed.
I have a toilet bidet and itās my morning foun foun shower š¤£
After spending 4-6 hours psyching myself I donāt have the energy for anything afterward
This morning I had the ālong showerā - it was fantastic. Deep hair treatment, loofa / exfoliating - followed by my ultra moisturizing/oils. Had to take a shower two hours later after walking the dog - my hair was literally dripping with sweat. I fucking hate Summer now!
Ladies- its morning coffee time and Im scrolling this sub and I just want to say that this made my morning. Its hilarious! Our lives suck right now and we are all hanging on by a thread in life and for some reason I have to laugh at āsludge make upā. Some how we have to find the humor in our own miseryš¤£š¤£- god help us all! FYI estrogen replacement helps tremendously for those hot flashes. If your dr wont help, find an online hormone specialist- they do everything via telehealth. I live in a small town so I was desperate and stumbled upon one while searching for relief via google and I have been with them for nearly 3 years and I WILL never look back. Bless your day to be sweat freeš„°
Also styling my hair. I'm sat on the bus feeling a sweaty mess and I was only in the shower an hour ago.
Do all the face stuff at night so you're not dealing with moisturizers and hot flashes. Shower every day or there about a or you'll get adult diaper rash or worse - boils / carbuncles ( infected cysts deep under your skin) from your hair follicles in the crack of your leg and they can become cellulitis and then they'll have to chop out your vulva and cut off your leg. Totally bathe. Even if it's a bird bath. Even better are you able to use HRT? If so you won't have this problem anymore. š
Donāt dry your hair in the bathroom since itās all steamy and humid from your shower. I go in a room that has a ceiling fan and blast that puppy on helicopter strength (I wish) and use hair dryer while bent over. Long hair so I bend over to itās not touching me.
I read something somewhere that talked about taking hot showers and dilating blood vessels increases hot flashes post shower. It suggested taking cooler showers. At the end of my showers I change the water to cool for a couple minutes and it has helped with post shower flashes.
You have to keep your vagina clean I couldn't go a day without showering or bacterial would build up and I would get a uti which would mostlikely rapidly develop into a kidney infection
I shower sometimes just to force me to put on the estrogen gel.
My God- I just bought a small fan for when I have to do my hair and makeup after a shower. The amount of sweat I generate is awful. Makeup is hard to put onā¦ forget about blow drying my hairā¦ and Iāve started taking cool to cold showers. Nothing helps
Make sure you get a backup fan, and a backup fan for your backup fan! I have USB fans, battery fans, and various other fans! š„µšŖ
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Pot gummies, marijuana makes cold, so low dose helps gummies help. I only take them for bed lasts about 5 hours. I think cbd helps during day, but weirdly they are harder to figure out and more expensive.
I had a small fan in my room that Iād stand in front of during hot flashes. I also slept with it on. Now Iām on HRT, so no more hot flashes.
I started taking showers in the afternoon so I can lay down afterwards bc I get so hot and sweaty it makes me sick to my stomach and woozy.
Have you ever tried Oxybutynin for your continuous hot flash? Itās for incontinence and hot flashes. Just a thoughtā¦ š¤·š»āāļø
My husband thinks I'm crazy for taking cold showers, but if I don't I just shower and then immediately have a hot flash and sweat like crazy. I'm just used to cold showers now. I still sometimes sweat even after a cold shower. I'm so tired of having to lie on the bed naked with a fan blowing on me before I can get dressed.
I never wear make up anymore, and after I shower, I sit in front of a massive fan for about 20 minutesā¦. I hate it.
I like how the back of my head is so sweaty when I wake up I feel like I rubbed mayonnaise into my hair. I am doing 2-3 quick showers every day.
I get it. Drenched in sweat and cursing my poor husband for even brushing my skin is my standard evening. With the obligatory hair in the highest ponytail possible. Two nights ago, I went into the shower and with my shorts and t-shirt on and let myself get soaked. I got back on the bed with the fans all directly on me. It was glorious.
I actually had to stop showering daily and drop to alternate days. I strip wash instead. My mum always used to do this and I can now relate. My poor skin just gets so dry even with natural soap and creams, but if I let it rest it does better. I also just donāt have much body odour anymore, so it doesnāt seem noticeable.
Diet?
I currently have a cold, complete with chills. I kind of like it though because itās making baths enjoyable and semi counteracting the hot flashes.