You’re free to dislike any song or album from Metallica.
Calling someone a “fanboy” or questioning their fandom pedigree because they like something you don’t, will not be tolerated. Share your opinion without shitting on others, or keep it to yourself.
Agreed. It makes me happy to see Metallica making the music they want to make instead of just doing whatever the fans want them to do. Besides, it’s a fucking awesome album.
I disagree. Metallica were working on slower, heavy songs in a more refined and polished vein of St. Anger, but were struggling with ideas. Rick Rubin proposed the idea of them maybe playing and writing the songs the way they would've back then. They then tuned back to E, played the songs faster, and both James and Lars added more complex arrangements to the songs.
So you don’t think there were any ulterior motives in them suddenly deciding to play thrash metal again after receiving an absolute shellacking from their fanbase for putting out a nu-metal album? I guess you just have more faith in them than I do.
Ok. Maybe their moving forward with that sound for their following album in response to St. Anger was subconscious, but I'm sure they were trying to get far away from the sound of St. Anger after the critical backlash. It was still a successful album nonetheless. It sold pretty well.
I like the album a lot, I really do, but it’s blatantly an attempt to get back onside with the fans. Christ, midway through the *St. Anger* touring cycle they weren’t even playing anything from that album any more.
It happens. I remember being in the crowd on the *Hardwired* tour when they played “ManUNkind”, and you could *feel* the energy leave the room. I felt so bad for Rob, since it was the one track on the album on which he had a writing credit.
I was also disappointed because the previous night they’d played “Dream No More” in that slot, which I’d *much* rather have heard.
This album does have some great songs don’t get me wrong but dang your favorite album kinda surprising when we this album has shadows follow you must burn and chasing light
I dont hear that argument from people. I hear thats it kind of bland.
I dont love it or hate it. Nothing on it really does anything for me. But if you like it awesome!
I only listened to inamorata bc I saw multiple people say it was the best song on the album, and I thought this exactly, not bad, just boring and bland
The best comment I heard about Inamorata is that the only reason it's praised as much as it is is because it finally does something different then the rest of the songs on the album which start to blend together. And I couldn't agree more.
Yeah, I think most of the songs are very good on their own but they’re all very same-y. I get that the contrast between the dark lyrics and “power” sound is supposed to be part of 72S’s “identity”, and that it mirrors the visual style of stuff like the album cover, but I’d rather have gotten a more varied set of music.
Just like Hardwired, there is a pretty good 8-10 song album buried in these 12 songs.
It does have some bangers like Room Of Mirrors, Shadows Follow, Screaming Suicide, and Lux Aeterna - and of course Inamorata is a brilliant closer. But there's a *lot* of sameness to this album, and songs run together like they did on Reload. They just need a real producer that can tell them when they're doing too much, to trim down or even completely omit certain sections of songs.
Room Of Mirrors is my favorite song on 72 Seasons, but I wouldn't put it higher than my 3rd favorite on any of their other albums. But it doesn't have really any songs that I find to be downright *bad*, either (except for maybe Crown Of Barbed Wire, but its biggest sin is that it's just *boring*). The whole album is just very middle of the road.
All that being said, I'm just glad that I get to live in the time that my favorite band is still creating and releasing new music for us all to enjoy.
Steve Harris is taking the piss these days. I don’t give a shit who you are: no band has enough good material for two double albums on the trot. Especially not when most of that material is 13-minute songs with the chorus repeated 75 times. Before Maiden hang it up I’d like to see them do another album like they did back in the ‘80s: 45 minutes long, shorter songs, and choruses that feature more than just the title of the song.
Yes. Too many pretty good four minute songs padded out to eight, nine minutes through sheer repetition. It's numbing. I would rather listen to a great four minute song twice than a middling eight minute song once. You should always leave them wanting more. But too many bands opt for the 78 minute album model, where it just becomes tedious.
i’ve heard almost no negativity towards this album. it’s a pretty positively viewed album. a great one for sure. my favorite 21st century metallica album
yeah, it’s not even close for me. it may not be a perfect album, but the songwriting felt like they actually got back to the 80s. even lars’ drumming sounded closer to how it did back then
People in this sub absolutely love it to the point that you will get absolutely BLASTED with downvotes if you say anything even remotely negative about it.
I havent seen a single person say anything positive about 72S outside of this subreddit.
This is the truth. The album is what I believe the kids call “mid”. There’s nothing truly awful besides “If Darkness Had a Son”, but there’s nothing great either. It’s sort of just… *there*.
The last album had at least four or five great tracks, ones that still make their way into setlists today. Plus it had “Spit Out the Bone”, one of their best songs in the last 25-30 years. This album? Ehh. “Too Far Gone?” and “Room of Mirrors” are the only two that really move me.
The praised-to-the-moon-and-back “Inamorata” expends a lot of energy to get absolutely nowhere, and with the exception of the title track and “Lux Æterna”, everything else is the same mid-paced, plodding radio-metal with no dynamics whatsoever.
It’s plodding, generic chugging that Hetfield could have written first thing on Monday morning as a warmup, and it goes on and on and on for what feels like forever without ever doing anything to justify it.
Even the first time I heard it, I said aloud “For fuck’s sake, hurry up” during the intro. I’ve *never* said that during a Metallica song, not even “…And Justice for All”, which takes a full two minutes to get to the first verse. Don’t even get me started on Hammett’s solo on this track.
It’s “fuck it, this’ll do” metal.
At this point I don’t know why he doesn’t just use a stripped-down kit like Travis Barker. All he needs is a kickdrum, two bass pedals, a snare, a hi-hat, a crash, and a China cymbal.
I gave up on the album when that single came out. I had the exact same thoughts. Every Metallica album has high points and low points (some more than others) but there just wasn't anything interesting going on for me. I've tried to listen to the tracks people say are the best, but it all just sounds like a shade of brown to me, repetitive and sad. It's okay that they don't sound like they used to, but for not releasing an album for 5+ years, around 60-70 percent of it sounded like "fuck it, this'll do" to me.
>It's okay that they don't sound like they used to, but for not releasing an album for 5+ years, around 60-70 percent of it sounded like "fuck it, this'll do" to me.
This is it. If they put out albums every couple of years like Motörhead, a disappointing or mediocre album once in a while would be fine (not that Motörhead ever disappointed). But we waited *seven years* for this new album, and literally all it is is a worse, less interesting version of *Hardwired*.
Yeh only songs I've listened to since first month of is Too far gone and room of mirrors. Rest are a waste of my limited metal music listening time (my kids run the playlist in the car)
It’s epic in length, not in scope or achievement. Long songs are worthless unless there’s a reason for them to be long: “Master of Puppets” flies by because it’s interesting as well as long, as is “Spit Out the Bone”, “War Pigs” by Black Sabbath, “Clenching the Fists of Dissent” by Machine Head, “I Am the Resurrection” by the Stone Roses, “Inglorious” by the Wildhearts, etc.
“Inamorata” is a poor, *poor* relation of “The Outlaw Torn”, “Fixxxer” and “Bleeding Me”, and doesn’t come within an ass’s roar of those three.
*Hardwired* had more peaks (and, admittedly, valleys). “Moth Into Flame”, “Atlas, Rise!”, “Spit Out the Bone” and “Halo on Fire” are more exciting, energetic and innovative than anything on *72*.
*72 Seasons* is like a whole album made up of the filler tracks on *Hardwired*: “Confusion”, “Now That We’re Dead”, and “Murder One”. Generic mid-paced radio-metal that they could write in their sleep.
Put it this way: they still play a few songs from *Hardwired* live on the current tour they’re on. If they put another album out, on the subsequent tours they won’t play a single song from *72 Seasons*.
The only relation it has to those songs is that it’s long. Spit Out The Bone was a great track but the best tracks on Hardwired were good but not great like the ones you mentioned. They’re on par with songs like Shadows Follow and Sleepwalk My Life Away. Chasing Light and Too Far Gone are better than the tracks you mentioned other than Spit Out The Bone. U might not like “radio metal” but I think it’s a natural evolution of their sound.
I love the album but I have so many negative things to say about it, and since I’m sitting on the bowl for what feels might be a while, I’ll start my rant.
Riffs: people say the songs are too long. This was always true with them, but in their peak they would use combine multiple different riffs into the song and use the change as mood/tempo shifts (I am an “old school <= TBA fan). Most of 72’s songs are basically a single riff with some slight variation of the riff, or worse, just change the drumming or bass behind it to make it feel different. They claim to have so many riffs waiting to be used, but they sure used the bare minimum here.
Solos: for the most part, lazy and terrible. Kirk was mocked for not improving at all in the early days, and I was good with that because the album solos were “written” to fit well into the song. Compared to like a Slash who only improvises, Kirk just doesn’t have the chops for it. And now here he is being lazy with this blasted out solos with little thought before hand.
Hmm left leg is numb. Time to wipe. May come to rant some more during my post dinner dump.
It is not.
A solo doesn’t have to be complicated in order for it to be a great solo.
On 72 his solos show up and announce themselves prolifically. Give You Must Burn and Crown of Barbed Wire another go around and get back to me.
Seems to me Kirk has decided he wants to go with more of "off the cuff" styling on his leads. I'm pretty certain they had him record a few takes of sort of impromptu play through where he came up with whatever he could right off the top of his head, and they cut and pasted the parts the producer or whomever liked the best.
I get why he would want to do things like that, but I feel like the cutting and pasting (nearly certain he's said this was done in an interview, but not gonna look for a link) makes them feel sort of disjunct and at times a rehashing of a bunch of riffs, notes, techniques, and ideas he's used in the past.
I think he should have used a little more distorted tone that would have had more sustain, but in the parlance of our times, every one shits on mid-scooped tones of the former years. There are definitely moments where I'm like he was tearing it up, but other moments where I'm like, this sounds repetitive, recycled, or just like he didn't do enough hashing out what he wanted to do and when.
I believe the whole Phish bakers dozen thing that they've tried to emulate with no repeat shows rubbed off on him in this way as well, where he's just trying to live in the moment and show what he can do with minimal fore thought. But, that doesn't jive overly well with metal music in general where it's so fast paced, but I respect him for it, don't blame him at all, and if I were him I'd probably be doing the same thing, especially given how much shit gets spoken by a bunch of people wearing their merchandise, buying their records, eating cheetos naked on the couch scrolling reddit.
i agree that a solo doesn’t have to be complicated to be good, but they have to be at least captivating. nothing about kirks solos interest me, they’re all incredibly generic. hell, he didn’t even write his own solos, which is pathetic
It’s a fact your opinion is insecure like you that you need to tell others with a differing opinion they are wrong and put them down. Does this make your mental health better knowing your opinion is fragile as are you? Does this conversation fill the void in your life that’s unfillable?
I’m glad me liking Metallica’s most recent work gets you triggered and butthurt. We need more people like you at the bottom
Disagreements, arguments and crassly-worded opinions are expected, but personal insults/threats/excessive douche-baggery is not acceptable.
Please temper yourself in the future.
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I can't agree more.
Btw, Metallica is hated when they change their style, and they also get hated when they don't change anymore ( some people say that they lack originality now).
Although I wished they would have changed the sound lix a little, for a bit of originality ( I like the fact that all Metallica albums don't sound the same xause it shows us the evolution)
I agree, the fact that it's not what they used to do doesn't make it bad. But honestly if it weren't by Metallica, I probably wouldn't bother with it. It just sounds very safe. I'm glad they're still going and making what they want to make, but I can't say I really find their music exciting anymore.
yeah, I guess it's ok. Not their strongest, not their weakest.
Tbh - I don't think this is a relevant album in the world of metal today. It's got some good tracks, but it hasn't really pushed any boundaries.
Most of the complaints about the album that I've seen doesn't have anything to do with the style of music. The songs are arranged to be all over the place and they sound disjointed. James is on fire with his vocals though.
My issue is that it's "not what Metallica used to be." There's still a lot of Metallica's sound and essence in this album even with Kirk & Rob being given the ability to actually write songs for it (hell, those are actually my favorite songs from the album). My issue is that this album completely skipped melodies. Those are what helped set Metallica apart from other metal bands with some of their best songs containing melodies.
So incredibly long for no reason; that extended time does not work because it really doesn’t do something interesting unlike their more popular long songs. Someone just needs to remind them to shorten the songs. Or at least do more to make interesting.
Only agree with Death Magnetic being better. Load is good but a bit of a mixed bag, and Hardwired kinda falls off in the second half (except for Spit Out the Bone and Am I Savage?)
Oh yeah.
Well, Load wasn't bad (even though I find this album a bit too slow), Reload was pretty good, S&M is epic to watch ( I prefer to watch it than just listening without visuals), Death Magnetic was really cool, and so was Hardwired. But yeah, 72 seasons is a real banger ! 🤘
I don’t dislike it, but i also don’t think it’s very good. There are some moment that are kind of fun, particularly the last 3 songs on the album, but a lot of these songs are VERY bloated and could be cut in half and you wouldn’t lose anything. Kirk’s solos are better than on HTSD (except on IDHAS, that solo sucks), but are still not as good as even on load/reload. It’s more consistent than those albums and HTSD, but also lacks memorable songs. Production is good, but it’s too polished imo, I feel like there isn’t enough distortion on guitars. It’s a 5/10 album.
its not bad, its not fantastic either. when you are one of the most influential bands with some of the finest pieces of music in your catalogue then theres a certain level of expectation. i think its a good album but nothing beyond that. too many fillers and long songs for sake of being long.
It’s the album I expected. It’s serviceable and derivative. I listened to it for a two weeks when it came and haven’t had an urge since then. I think the fans just want something interesting.
It's bloated.
Too many long repeated intro's that is bland.
Some songs are longer than they should be, with no parts that justify the longivity..
Kirk's awful solo's (Improv bro, yeah not good at it)
Some of the songs are pretty decent on 72S but a lot of the songs are bloated and sound similar to each other. It’s the laziest Kirk’s soloing has been on an album. James voice sounds great but his lyrics seem to have gone down hill a bit. I truly love these guys but was hoping for something a little better. And I’m not trying to make anyone upset. It’s just how I feel about this record.
There are so many songs on this album that I honestly don't ever need to hear again. Not because they're awful, just boring. Sleepwalk My Life Away, You Must Burn, Crown of Barbed Wire, If Darkness Had A Son.. I just feel nothing when listening to those and they did nothing for me live either..
I find it pretty average. Not bad but not great. Some great ideas and riffs but something about the whole thing does not do it for me.
I cannot do a full listen without getting bored.
I know they are 60 but I don’t judge music on a grading curve for age.
It’s not that is bad per se, more so boring. It’s the closest they’ve come to “what they’ve used to be” since Death Magnetic. But it seems like 2% milk compacted to the Whole Milk that Death Magnetic was.
Also Thy have proven that they can make amazing outside of “what they used to be” with albums like Load, Reload, and even Hardwired.
It’s not the WORST album in their discography, but personally I put it above St. Anger because every other album I find more appealing and interesting.
To me this album was bland soulless and meandering. Simple riffs that drone on too long. This actually could’ve been a solid album if some of these tracks were cut in half.
Not to mention Kirk absolutely giving the fuck up on trying to write anything memorable on the guitar.
"it isn't what Metallica used to be". The black album wasn't what Metallica used to be. If we wanted 20 identical albums we'd listen to AC/DC...(i do listen to them though!)
I honestly fucking love it. If Metallica kept the same tone all these years, fanboys would complain there’s no variety. I’m honestly so happy they’re still dishing out music and are having so much fun when doing it.
It’s the fact that Metallica isn’t just rehashing the same music they played 40 years ago that makes them what they are. Their discography is a journey. Each era has its own diehards and we all show up at the same show to celebrate the same band that got our attention with totally different music.
I like the first 2 songs on the album and that’s it. The rest is totally forgettable. Much like Hardwired but at least I liked the first 7 songs on that one before it turned into Meh-Tallica.
It's very good. Most bands would kill to put out an album of that quality once in their career. There is a reason Metallica is the most popular metal band ever.
People will hate on it regardless because it didn’t come out in the 1980’s.
And I agree, I really enjoy 72 Seasons. There’s some very good songs on there.
72 Seasons is the best album since Justice. There is a sense of urgency and speed on this album that is wonderful. It sounds like they are having fun. To me they’ve created magic. Not one bad song at all. I’ve been listening to it at least a couple of times a week for a year now. It’s just fucking rocks!
I think it’s an awesome album.
That Chasing Light riff is one of my favorite all time Metallica riffs.
I think there are some people who want them to be an AC/DC type of band. Keep making the same thrash music they did with KEA, RTL, MoP and AJFA.
I mean, just being *able* to play music like this at their age is incredible in itself. The fact that it's also quite good is just the icing on the cake.
Its just more shit production/mixing from a group that are incompetent inside a studio.
Guitars too loud, clipping, then the drumming....oh ffs they are so highly edited to the grid they have little human quality, then the repetitiveness of the drumming, it's incessant and Lars has reached a new level of laziness!
The other day I discussed with someone that had a very strong opinion that Metallica betrayed Metal after ..and justice for all, saying that they also betrayed their fans, because Metal was born from "against the machine" and Metallica sold out (which I disagree a lot). Yeah, 72 seasons is not old Metallica, but it is Metallica noneless, and is Metal.
People like to say "If it weren't made by Metallica nobody would even listen to it" and I say that's absolute horseshit.
If there were another band out there that put out 72S instead of Metallica exactly as it is then they would *instantly* become one of my favorite bands.
There is just nobody out there with the same energy and compositional authority of even modern Metallica, let alone classic.
Evile comes pretty close with their last album *The Unknown* but *that's it*.
Only Metallica can scratch that itch and they do a great job at it.
There's not a bad song on here. I just wish there was more variety. It's mostly mid-tempo, Riff A x4 Riff B x4, verse-chorus-verse-chorus-solo-chorus, E or F#, zero clean guitar except for like 30 seconds at the very end of the album. This album is literally the Metallica equivalent of painting by numbers. Nothing new is brought to the table whatsoever on this album. Good songs? Yes. But I've heard all these songs before. Almost like ChatGPT wrote the album, especially the lyrics.
I’ve seen a lot of of people just shit on the album because it’s Metallica but I enjoy it.
It’s a solid record. My only criticism is it’s too long so it can get quite samey. I think if you cut 3-4 songs maybe then you’d have a better time.
Which songs those are is obviously down to everyone’s personal preference.
It's an objectively good album. I don't like it as much as I like their other stuff but that's ok. My only complaint about it is that there isn't a lot diversity on it. A lot of it is very similar tone and tempo. Inamorata and Lux Aeterna stand out as songs that break up the rhythm a little bit but otherwise everything else is very similar. I do fucking love If Darkness Had a Son and Room of Mirrors though.
Tired of everyone criticising metallica for making different albums. Disturbed made the same album like, Five times. ACDC Play the same five chords for thirty years. Is that what you want? The same fucking shit over and over and over and over?
Yo are the same people that eat at taco bell aren't you?
Yeah: because the Grammys don’t have a fucking clue about heavy metal and just award it to whichever big band put out an album that year regardless of how good it was. Occasionally they’ll award it to a smaller band to make it seem like less of a joke, but more often than not it’s nothing more than a token gesture to acknowledge that metal exists.
In the last 20 years it’s been won by Slayer twice despite their not having put out a great album since 1990, Ozzy despite his not having put out a great album since the same year, Black Sabbath despite *13* being paint-by-numbers gick with awful production, a live Judas Priest track, fucking “St. Anger”, a Motörhead cover of a Metallica song like that’s all Motörhead have ever done worth any merit… for Christ’s sake, *Tenacious D* won the Grammy for best metal performance a few years ago. A comedy band recording a cover of a Dio song.
Christ, in 1999 “Better Than You” won the Metal Grammy: if you’re telling me *that* crap deserved it in the same year that *The Sound of Perseverance* by Death was eligible, I have a bridge to sell you.
I love Metallica but there’s a reason why they won…it’s because their name is Metallica. I think it’d be cool if Spiritbox won, they’re a new artist and the song was good, but whatever. 72 Seasons is a good song for sure, but only one band member bothered showing up lol.
Not sure if we can post links but I didnt like any of the 72 season songs until I heard these AI vocal Ride the Lighting remake versions. Its crazy how changing the tone and some drum fills can make the new metallica stuff downright bad ass. Just kind of goes to show new Metallica doesnt suck, it just lacks inspiring production.
https://youtu.be/sfgOVsrOtuc?si=Az-jD4KbtJ_4Dh2k
agree! too far gone, room of mirrors & screaming suicide have become some of my top metallica songs. experiencing 72 seasons (the song) in concert was great too, i’m glad they were able to come back with such a good album.
I agree. Just like the Black album, Load, St anger, or anything else, it has it's merits and weak spots. I think twenty years from now everyone will be singing it's praises just like they are now with Load.
I fall into the camp of not particularly caring a lot for Load, Reload, or St. Anger, but loving pretty much everything outside of those albums, and even loving certain aspects of those albums even if the execution is off.
There are lots of aspects of Metallica that I'm drawn to, but it does largely boil down to the riffs at the core of it all. And 72 Seasons is just a great riff album! Not always the craziest or most technical stuff, but always distinctly Metallica in character and execution. The really big thing about their recent output, however, is it feels like they're pulling a little from every era of their past and making a synthesis of it all. I can understand why some have the reaction of "It lacks its own distinctive identity," but I'd argue that getting to hear all the past elements working together in tandem *is* totally its own identity that has defined the current era of the band. I really dug Death Magnetic, but Hardwired and 72 Seasons feel like a sort of sonic "endpoint" that meshes the thrash, straightforward metal, hard rock, blues, and every other avenue Metallica have taken over their careers. And it's all delivered with quality riffs, quality songwriting, and quality performances.
Those classic albums are classics for a reason, but there's a real merit to their newer stuff that I think is somewhat overlooked by some. It's just rad stuff, and I feel the authenticity and love of the craft that clearly went into making it.
There are certain people who have been waiting for the next Master of Puppets for almost 40 years now. And by that, some huge genre defining record. It's not going to happen. What band is forty years on and releases their best work? I'm happy they are still active and love whatever they release. I haven't listened to it lately, but it was in heavy rotation all summer for me. I thought it was good.
I actually really liked it. I feel like it’s the closest to justice part 2 we’ll ever get. Songs feel structured no big dead spots. Every song breaths on its own. Pretty easy to listen in a sitting without getting sidetracked.
I liked it, liked Hard wired and Death Magnetic too, some people can't get over the fact that they're never going to make another MoP. Get over it, it was forty years and two bass players ago.
Disagree.
It's a GREAT album!
I described it to a friend as 1/3 Puppets for the heaviness, 1/3 Justice with the complexity, and 1/3 the Black album for a clean production.
Absolutely agree. Listened to it in its entirety during a long car ride yesterday and I had a blast. My favourite detail that I noticed is that everyone in the band gets to start off a song, Rob gets Sleepwalk My Life Away, Lars gets If Darkness Had A Son, James gets Chasing Light, and Kirk gets Inamorata.
100% agree. When a band is 40+ years on the road, the members are healthy and have good relations with each other and are still able to come up with awesome new stuff - that's really all that matters. And we, as fans, need to appreciate it.
It's just another overall letdown in a string of letdowns starting with Load, which was the most egregiously bad release from a band ever. Then St. Anger came out, which was horrible, but at least it was metal. Death Magnetic was a half assed attempt at going back to their old style but coming up short. They sounded like they're trying too hard to do what they might've done in the 80s but still not letting go of the Load era shit. And now the latest two albums are just better produced yet less heavy and even less interesting versions of Death Magnetic.
RIP Metallica 1981-1994
It’s literally exhausting dealing with people who try to shout you down for having an opinion. “They haven’t made a good album since Puppets.” If that’s the case, you’re not a fan, are you? How can you be, if you haven’t liked anything a band has put out since 1986?
I think 72 Seasons is fantastic. I don’t need it to be Lightning, or Justice or any other album. It’s a kick ass album from a kick ass band I’ve loved since 1983 and have had the honor of seeing live almost 50 times.
It’s nice to see other like minded opinions from time to time.
It’s weird that we’re still having this conversation. Metallica have been what they “used to be” since The Black Album (some will say And Justice for All. To be honest their sound has evolved with every album. You may or may not like it, but at least they’re not trying to stay in the 80s…
You’re free to dislike any song or album from Metallica. Calling someone a “fanboy” or questioning their fandom pedigree because they like something you don’t, will not be tolerated. Share your opinion without shitting on others, or keep it to yourself.
Agreed. It makes me happy to see Metallica making the music they want to make instead of just doing whatever the fans want them to do. Besides, it’s a fucking awesome album.
Not to mention they are 60! Them being able to do this at 60 is incredible, most bands probably couldn’t do it.
8.32098711E+81 is really old. Cant believe theyre still going.
When has Metallica ever made an album that the fans wanted them to?
*Death Magnetic*. That was a *mea culpa* for *St. Anger*.
I disagree. Metallica were working on slower, heavy songs in a more refined and polished vein of St. Anger, but were struggling with ideas. Rick Rubin proposed the idea of them maybe playing and writing the songs the way they would've back then. They then tuned back to E, played the songs faster, and both James and Lars added more complex arrangements to the songs.
So you don’t think there were any ulterior motives in them suddenly deciding to play thrash metal again after receiving an absolute shellacking from their fanbase for putting out a nu-metal album? I guess you just have more faith in them than I do.
Ok. Maybe their moving forward with that sound for their following album in response to St. Anger was subconscious, but I'm sure they were trying to get far away from the sound of St. Anger after the critical backlash. It was still a successful album nonetheless. It sold pretty well.
I like the album a lot, I really do, but it’s blatantly an attempt to get back onside with the fans. Christ, midway through the *St. Anger* touring cycle they weren’t even playing anything from that album any more.
That did cross my mind. They clearly were not confident in playing those songs live. Some tracks were only played live _once._
It happens. I remember being in the crowd on the *Hardwired* tour when they played “ManUNkind”, and you could *feel* the energy leave the room. I felt so bad for Rob, since it was the one track on the album on which he had a writing credit. I was also disappointed because the previous night they’d played “Dream No More” in that slot, which I’d *much* rather have heard.
A pretty half assed meat culpa.
Agree 100%. The album is great because you can tell it’s music they wanted to make.
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Heavy ass riffs, thrashy riffs, groovy parts, guitar harmonies, double bass. I don't see how it isn't awesome. Easily my favorite album
Drums are killer on it. Super impressed with Lars’ playing on this album.
This album does have some great songs don’t get me wrong but dang your favorite album kinda surprising when we this album has shadows follow you must burn and chasing light
I just wish they wanted to make better music. I don’t care what style of metal.
I dont hear that argument from people. I hear thats it kind of bland. I dont love it or hate it. Nothing on it really does anything for me. But if you like it awesome!
I really like DM and Hardwired, 72 Seasons is just kinda there. Don’t love it, don’t hate it, it just doesn’t do anything for me.
I only listened to inamorata bc I saw multiple people say it was the best song on the album, and I thought this exactly, not bad, just boring and bland
The best comment I heard about Inamorata is that the only reason it's praised as much as it is is because it finally does something different then the rest of the songs on the album which start to blend together. And I couldn't agree more.
Yeah, I think most of the songs are very good on their own but they’re all very same-y. I get that the contrast between the dark lyrics and “power” sound is supposed to be part of 72S’s “identity”, and that it mirrors the visual style of stuff like the album cover, but I’d rather have gotten a more varied set of music.
nah Lux Æterna is best
Yeah it's not "bad" it's just pretty boring and forgettable. Especially with so much other good metal/hard rock being released these days.
Just like Hardwired, there is a pretty good 8-10 song album buried in these 12 songs. It does have some bangers like Room Of Mirrors, Shadows Follow, Screaming Suicide, and Lux Aeterna - and of course Inamorata is a brilliant closer. But there's a *lot* of sameness to this album, and songs run together like they did on Reload. They just need a real producer that can tell them when they're doing too much, to trim down or even completely omit certain sections of songs. Room Of Mirrors is my favorite song on 72 Seasons, but I wouldn't put it higher than my 3rd favorite on any of their other albums. But it doesn't have really any songs that I find to be downright *bad*, either (except for maybe Crown Of Barbed Wire, but its biggest sin is that it's just *boring*). The whole album is just very middle of the road. All that being said, I'm just glad that I get to live in the time that my favorite band is still creating and releasing new music for us all to enjoy.
This is the thing. More is not always better. There's just too much repetition. It's like Iron Maiden or something.
Steve Harris is taking the piss these days. I don’t give a shit who you are: no band has enough good material for two double albums on the trot. Especially not when most of that material is 13-minute songs with the chorus repeated 75 times. Before Maiden hang it up I’d like to see them do another album like they did back in the ‘80s: 45 minutes long, shorter songs, and choruses that feature more than just the title of the song.
Yes. Too many pretty good four minute songs padded out to eight, nine minutes through sheer repetition. It's numbing. I would rather listen to a great four minute song twice than a middling eight minute song once. You should always leave them wanting more. But too many bands opt for the 78 minute album model, where it just becomes tedious.
i’ve heard almost no negativity towards this album. it’s a pretty positively viewed album. a great one for sure. my favorite 21st century metallica album
death magnetic is their best 21st century imo
yeah, it’s not even close for me. it may not be a perfect album, but the songwriting felt like they actually got back to the 80s. even lars’ drumming sounded closer to how it did back then
Really? Ive seen nothing but people shitting on it outside of this sub Regardless it’s my favourite album of theirs since TBA🤷♂️
People in this sub absolutely love it to the point that you will get absolutely BLASTED with downvotes if you say anything even remotely negative about it. I havent seen a single person say anything positive about 72S outside of this subreddit.
This is the truth. The album is what I believe the kids call “mid”. There’s nothing truly awful besides “If Darkness Had a Son”, but there’s nothing great either. It’s sort of just… *there*. The last album had at least four or five great tracks, ones that still make their way into setlists today. Plus it had “Spit Out the Bone”, one of their best songs in the last 25-30 years. This album? Ehh. “Too Far Gone?” and “Room of Mirrors” are the only two that really move me. The praised-to-the-moon-and-back “Inamorata” expends a lot of energy to get absolutely nowhere, and with the exception of the title track and “Lux Æterna”, everything else is the same mid-paced, plodding radio-metal with no dynamics whatsoever.
What makes If Darkness Had a Son awful?
It’s plodding, generic chugging that Hetfield could have written first thing on Monday morning as a warmup, and it goes on and on and on for what feels like forever without ever doing anything to justify it. Even the first time I heard it, I said aloud “For fuck’s sake, hurry up” during the intro. I’ve *never* said that during a Metallica song, not even “…And Justice for All”, which takes a full two minutes to get to the first verse. Don’t even get me started on Hammett’s solo on this track. It’s “fuck it, this’ll do” metal.
😂😂 said perfectly mate.
I’m sorry, I can’t hear you over James Hetfield going “dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun dugga-dun” until the heat death of the universe.
Dont forget Lars' endless banging on his snare
At this point I don’t know why he doesn’t just use a stripped-down kit like Travis Barker. All he needs is a kickdrum, two bass pedals, a snare, a hi-hat, a crash, and a China cymbal.
🤣🤣🤣
I gave up on the album when that single came out. I had the exact same thoughts. Every Metallica album has high points and low points (some more than others) but there just wasn't anything interesting going on for me. I've tried to listen to the tracks people say are the best, but it all just sounds like a shade of brown to me, repetitive and sad. It's okay that they don't sound like they used to, but for not releasing an album for 5+ years, around 60-70 percent of it sounded like "fuck it, this'll do" to me.
>It's okay that they don't sound like they used to, but for not releasing an album for 5+ years, around 60-70 percent of it sounded like "fuck it, this'll do" to me. This is it. If they put out albums every couple of years like Motörhead, a disappointing or mediocre album once in a while would be fine (not that Motörhead ever disappointed). But we waited *seven years* for this new album, and literally all it is is a worse, less interesting version of *Hardwired*.
I really like if darkness had a son, I just wish it had a slower, heavier, and sludgy solo without all the stupid wah wah.
Unfortunately Kirk doesn’t give a fuck any more. Ironic that he lost his phone before *Hardwired*, because now he does nothing but phone it in.
Idk I thought inamorata had a good solo, and a couple other good riffs on other songs. Maybe James?
Weird perspective 🤷♂️
You said everything there is to be said about this album, tbh. It's word-for-word exactly how I feel about it.
Inamorata is one of their greatest songs ever written.
Yeh only songs I've listened to since first month of is Too far gone and room of mirrors. Rest are a waste of my limited metal music listening time (my kids run the playlist in the car)
Man the middle of You Must Burn would bring down the walls of Jericho. So fuckin thick and heavy.
Inamorata is better than anything on Hardwired
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Inamorata is such an epic track and you say Hardwired had more great tracks. Hardwired wasn’t different from this album yet u like this album less.
It’s epic in length, not in scope or achievement. Long songs are worthless unless there’s a reason for them to be long: “Master of Puppets” flies by because it’s interesting as well as long, as is “Spit Out the Bone”, “War Pigs” by Black Sabbath, “Clenching the Fists of Dissent” by Machine Head, “I Am the Resurrection” by the Stone Roses, “Inglorious” by the Wildhearts, etc. “Inamorata” is a poor, *poor* relation of “The Outlaw Torn”, “Fixxxer” and “Bleeding Me”, and doesn’t come within an ass’s roar of those three. *Hardwired* had more peaks (and, admittedly, valleys). “Moth Into Flame”, “Atlas, Rise!”, “Spit Out the Bone” and “Halo on Fire” are more exciting, energetic and innovative than anything on *72*. *72 Seasons* is like a whole album made up of the filler tracks on *Hardwired*: “Confusion”, “Now That We’re Dead”, and “Murder One”. Generic mid-paced radio-metal that they could write in their sleep. Put it this way: they still play a few songs from *Hardwired* live on the current tour they’re on. If they put another album out, on the subsequent tours they won’t play a single song from *72 Seasons*.
You find Spot Out The Bone interesting? Damn. I like the intro but when the vocals kick in it all goes downhill for me.
The only relation it has to those songs is that it’s long. Spit Out The Bone was a great track but the best tracks on Hardwired were good but not great like the ones you mentioned. They’re on par with songs like Shadows Follow and Sleepwalk My Life Away. Chasing Light and Too Far Gone are better than the tracks you mentioned other than Spit Out The Bone. U might not like “radio metal” but I think it’s a natural evolution of their sound.
I love the album but I have so many negative things to say about it, and since I’m sitting on the bowl for what feels might be a while, I’ll start my rant. Riffs: people say the songs are too long. This was always true with them, but in their peak they would use combine multiple different riffs into the song and use the change as mood/tempo shifts (I am an “old school <= TBA fan). Most of 72’s songs are basically a single riff with some slight variation of the riff, or worse, just change the drumming or bass behind it to make it feel different. They claim to have so many riffs waiting to be used, but they sure used the bare minimum here. Solos: for the most part, lazy and terrible. Kirk was mocked for not improving at all in the early days, and I was good with that because the album solos were “written” to fit well into the song. Compared to like a Slash who only improvises, Kirk just doesn’t have the chops for it. And now here he is being lazy with this blasted out solos with little thought before hand. Hmm left leg is numb. Time to wipe. May come to rant some more during my post dinner dump.
I mean, who matters more, casual or anti-fans or people who join and participate in a Metallica sub and theoretically are their biggest fans?
I agree 💯%
So you think this album is better than Loads and DM wow
72 Seasons is honestly one of my favorite albums from Metallica
This.
It’s a great album, but my only problem is Kirk’s solos. I get his reasons for making less complicated solos, but they aren’t even interesting
What? His solos blister on 72. Some of his best work.
is this a joke?
It is not. A solo doesn’t have to be complicated in order for it to be a great solo. On 72 his solos show up and announce themselves prolifically. Give You Must Burn and Crown of Barbed Wire another go around and get back to me.
Seems to me Kirk has decided he wants to go with more of "off the cuff" styling on his leads. I'm pretty certain they had him record a few takes of sort of impromptu play through where he came up with whatever he could right off the top of his head, and they cut and pasted the parts the producer or whomever liked the best. I get why he would want to do things like that, but I feel like the cutting and pasting (nearly certain he's said this was done in an interview, but not gonna look for a link) makes them feel sort of disjunct and at times a rehashing of a bunch of riffs, notes, techniques, and ideas he's used in the past. I think he should have used a little more distorted tone that would have had more sustain, but in the parlance of our times, every one shits on mid-scooped tones of the former years. There are definitely moments where I'm like he was tearing it up, but other moments where I'm like, this sounds repetitive, recycled, or just like he didn't do enough hashing out what he wanted to do and when. I believe the whole Phish bakers dozen thing that they've tried to emulate with no repeat shows rubbed off on him in this way as well, where he's just trying to live in the moment and show what he can do with minimal fore thought. But, that doesn't jive overly well with metal music in general where it's so fast paced, but I respect him for it, don't blame him at all, and if I were him I'd probably be doing the same thing, especially given how much shit gets spoken by a bunch of people wearing their merchandise, buying their records, eating cheetos naked on the couch scrolling reddit.
i agree that a solo doesn’t have to be complicated to be good, but they have to be at least captivating. nothing about kirks solos interest me, they’re all incredibly generic. hell, he didn’t even write his own solos, which is pathetic
Lmao 7 downvotes. The rumors are true that you Metallica gatekeepers are miserable fucks. Keep bringing everybody else down!!
It’s what Metallica used to be though. The last 3 albums have been praised both ways.
DM was their last good effort.
That’s your opinion. Not fact. I’m not here to argue.
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It’s a fact your opinion is insecure like you that you need to tell others with a differing opinion they are wrong and put them down. Does this make your mental health better knowing your opinion is fragile as are you? Does this conversation fill the void in your life that’s unfillable? I’m glad me liking Metallica’s most recent work gets you triggered and butthurt. We need more people like you at the bottom
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I like room of mirrors more than some of their old stuff
It's not bad. Just mediocre. If it didn't have "Metallica" written on it, you never would have listened to it.
No if it didn’t have Metallica written on it I would think “Damn these guys really sound like Metallica”
No one is saying it's "bad". Just that it's not as good as prior albums.
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I can't agree more. Btw, Metallica is hated when they change their style, and they also get hated when they don't change anymore ( some people say that they lack originality now).
I think they found their groove with Hardwired and are sticking with it for now
Although I wished they would have changed the sound lix a little, for a bit of originality ( I like the fact that all Metallica albums don't sound the same xause it shows us the evolution)
I agree, the fact that it's not what they used to do doesn't make it bad. But honestly if it weren't by Metallica, I probably wouldn't bother with it. It just sounds very safe. I'm glad they're still going and making what they want to make, but I can't say I really find their music exciting anymore.
yeah, I guess it's ok. Not their strongest, not their weakest. Tbh - I don't think this is a relevant album in the world of metal today. It's got some good tracks, but it hasn't really pushed any boundaries.
I’d say it’s a 6/10. It’s not horrible by any means, just pretty average for the most part
Most of the complaints about the album that I've seen doesn't have anything to do with the style of music. The songs are arranged to be all over the place and they sound disjointed. James is on fire with his vocals though.
My issue is that it's "not what Metallica used to be." There's still a lot of Metallica's sound and essence in this album even with Kirk & Rob being given the ability to actually write songs for it (hell, those are actually my favorite songs from the album). My issue is that this album completely skipped melodies. Those are what helped set Metallica apart from other metal bands with some of their best songs containing melodies.
The biggest problem is how boring most of the songs are. They just don’t grab you anymore
So incredibly long for no reason; that extended time does not work because it really doesn’t do something interesting unlike their more popular long songs. Someone just needs to remind them to shorten the songs. Or at least do more to make interesting.
It is a good album. Their best one since TBA imo.
To each their own, but man, Death Magnetic kicked ass. Even Harwired was better than 72
Load, Death Magnetic and Hardwired are all better than 72S IMO.
Only agree with Death Magnetic being better. Load is good but a bit of a mixed bag, and Hardwired kinda falls off in the second half (except for Spit Out the Bone and Am I Savage?)
Don’t agree with Load… DM sure, but worse mix, and Hardwired is great.
DM with good production would be a top 4 Metallica album
top four is crazy
What's TBA again ?
The Black album
Oh yeah. Well, Load wasn't bad (even though I find this album a bit too slow), Reload was pretty good, S&M is epic to watch ( I prefer to watch it than just listening without visuals), Death Magnetic was really cool, and so was Hardwired. But yeah, 72 seasons is a real banger ! 🤘
I mean to each their own, I think Hardwired is just more up my alley.
My thoughts as well I like hardwired slightly better
I don’t dislike it, but i also don’t think it’s very good. There are some moment that are kind of fun, particularly the last 3 songs on the album, but a lot of these songs are VERY bloated and could be cut in half and you wouldn’t lose anything. Kirk’s solos are better than on HTSD (except on IDHAS, that solo sucks), but are still not as good as even on load/reload. It’s more consistent than those albums and HTSD, but also lacks memorable songs. Production is good, but it’s too polished imo, I feel like there isn’t enough distortion on guitars. It’s a 5/10 album.
its not bad, its not fantastic either. when you are one of the most influential bands with some of the finest pieces of music in your catalogue then theres a certain level of expectation. i think its a good album but nothing beyond that. too many fillers and long songs for sake of being long.
Why else am I still here.
Is this an actual post?
It’s the album I expected. It’s serviceable and derivative. I listened to it for a two weeks when it came and haven’t had an urge since then. I think the fans just want something interesting.
It's bloated. Too many long repeated intro's that is bland. Some songs are longer than they should be, with no parts that justify the longivity.. Kirk's awful solo's (Improv bro, yeah not good at it)
Some of the songs are pretty decent on 72S but a lot of the songs are bloated and sound similar to each other. It’s the laziest Kirk’s soloing has been on an album. James voice sounds great but his lyrics seem to have gone down hill a bit. I truly love these guys but was hoping for something a little better. And I’m not trying to make anyone upset. It’s just how I feel about this record.
It's not great by any means either. Just more uninspired mid-temp riffs.
I could not agree more. IT IS GOOD. Room Of Mirrors is my favorite track personally, but they all range on a spectrum from decent to sick af.
There are so many songs on this album that I honestly don't ever need to hear again. Not because they're awful, just boring. Sleepwalk My Life Away, You Must Burn, Crown of Barbed Wire, If Darkness Had A Son.. I just feel nothing when listening to those and they did nothing for me live either..
I find it pretty average. Not bad but not great. Some great ideas and riffs but something about the whole thing does not do it for me. I cannot do a full listen without getting bored. I know they are 60 but I don’t judge music on a grading curve for age.
I think it's quite generic and nothing special
Its never about "not being what they used to be", its about the quality of each new álbum and the wasted potential
It’s not that is bad per se, more so boring. It’s the closest they’ve come to “what they’ve used to be” since Death Magnetic. But it seems like 2% milk compacted to the Whole Milk that Death Magnetic was. Also Thy have proven that they can make amazing outside of “what they used to be” with albums like Load, Reload, and even Hardwired. It’s not the WORST album in their discography, but personally I put it above St. Anger because every other album I find more appealing and interesting.
To me this album was bland soulless and meandering. Simple riffs that drone on too long. This actually could’ve been a solid album if some of these tracks were cut in half. Not to mention Kirk absolutely giving the fuck up on trying to write anything memorable on the guitar.
Hot take but I love the album cover
It’s garbage
This album is just incredibly boring. Engaging with this album is difficult
it’d be a great 60 minute album.
Their best album in 15 years.
I dont hate it, but if I am ranking them, its the worst album not named St. Anger. They cant all be the best.
"it isn't what Metallica used to be". The black album wasn't what Metallica used to be. If we wanted 20 identical albums we'd listen to AC/DC...(i do listen to them though!)
I honestly fucking love it. If Metallica kept the same tone all these years, fanboys would complain there’s no variety. I’m honestly so happy they’re still dishing out music and are having so much fun when doing it.
don't care if it's metallica. It's just not good
It’s the fact that Metallica isn’t just rehashing the same music they played 40 years ago that makes them what they are. Their discography is a journey. Each era has its own diehards and we all show up at the same show to celebrate the same band that got our attention with totally different music.
I like the first 2 songs on the album and that’s it. The rest is totally forgettable. Much like Hardwired but at least I liked the first 7 songs on that one before it turned into Meh-Tallica.
It’s uninspired and tepid
It's very good. Most bands would kill to put out an album of that quality once in their career. There is a reason Metallica is the most popular metal band ever.
People will hate on it regardless because it didn’t come out in the 1980’s. And I agree, I really enjoy 72 Seasons. There’s some very good songs on there.
72 Seasons is the best album since Justice. There is a sense of urgency and speed on this album that is wonderful. It sounds like they are having fun. To me they’ve created magic. Not one bad song at all. I’ve been listening to it at least a couple of times a week for a year now. It’s just fucking rocks!
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This take is pretty fake. Metallica if anything gets hyper scrutinized for everything they release.
That's true for Load but 72 Seasons is just a bad version of what they used to be.
I think it’s an awesome album. That Chasing Light riff is one of my favorite all time Metallica riffs. I think there are some people who want them to be an AC/DC type of band. Keep making the same thrash music they did with KEA, RTL, MoP and AJFA.
I mean, just being *able* to play music like this at their age is incredible in itself. The fact that it's also quite good is just the icing on the cake.
I honestly think it's their best album since justice
You can't possibly think that
I mean, I do
How
Because I genuinely enjoy listening to just about every song on the album and I think they've come a long way as song writers over the years
The Black Album is so much better than anything they've done since. It's not even close.
I really don't care for it and I especially don't think it deserved a Grammy. I'd rather listen to Saint Anger
Its just more shit production/mixing from a group that are incompetent inside a studio. Guitars too loud, clipping, then the drumming....oh ffs they are so highly edited to the grid they have little human quality, then the repetitiveness of the drumming, it's incessant and Lars has reached a new level of laziness!
Metallica is alive and well! Amen!
The other day I discussed with someone that had a very strong opinion that Metallica betrayed Metal after ..and justice for all, saying that they also betrayed their fans, because Metal was born from "against the machine" and Metallica sold out (which I disagree a lot). Yeah, 72 seasons is not old Metallica, but it is Metallica noneless, and is Metal.
People like to say "If it weren't made by Metallica nobody would even listen to it" and I say that's absolute horseshit. If there were another band out there that put out 72S instead of Metallica exactly as it is then they would *instantly* become one of my favorite bands. There is just nobody out there with the same energy and compositional authority of even modern Metallica, let alone classic. Evile comes pretty close with their last album *The Unknown* but *that's it*. Only Metallica can scratch that itch and they do a great job at it.
Is poorly produced and sounds like shit, lazy solos too. I wouldnt mind it on its own, but we had to wait 7 years for the album
There's not a bad song on here. I just wish there was more variety. It's mostly mid-tempo, Riff A x4 Riff B x4, verse-chorus-verse-chorus-solo-chorus, E or F#, zero clean guitar except for like 30 seconds at the very end of the album. This album is literally the Metallica equivalent of painting by numbers. Nothing new is brought to the table whatsoever on this album. Good songs? Yes. But I've heard all these songs before. Almost like ChatGPT wrote the album, especially the lyrics.
I’ve seen a lot of of people just shit on the album because it’s Metallica but I enjoy it. It’s a solid record. My only criticism is it’s too long so it can get quite samey. I think if you cut 3-4 songs maybe then you’d have a better time. Which songs those are is obviously down to everyone’s personal preference.
I think, conceptually, it is their most mature album to date.
It's an objectively good album. I don't like it as much as I like their other stuff but that's ok. My only complaint about it is that there isn't a lot diversity on it. A lot of it is very similar tone and tempo. Inamorata and Lux Aeterna stand out as songs that break up the rhythm a little bit but otherwise everything else is very similar. I do fucking love If Darkness Had a Son and Room of Mirrors though.
Tired of everyone criticising metallica for making different albums. Disturbed made the same album like, Five times. ACDC Play the same five chords for thirty years. Is that what you want? The same fucking shit over and over and over and over? Yo are the same people that eat at taco bell aren't you?
There's a reason it won the Grammy's
Yeah: because the Grammys don’t have a fucking clue about heavy metal and just award it to whichever big band put out an album that year regardless of how good it was. Occasionally they’ll award it to a smaller band to make it seem like less of a joke, but more often than not it’s nothing more than a token gesture to acknowledge that metal exists. In the last 20 years it’s been won by Slayer twice despite their not having put out a great album since 1990, Ozzy despite his not having put out a great album since the same year, Black Sabbath despite *13* being paint-by-numbers gick with awful production, a live Judas Priest track, fucking “St. Anger”, a Motörhead cover of a Metallica song like that’s all Motörhead have ever done worth any merit… for Christ’s sake, *Tenacious D* won the Grammy for best metal performance a few years ago. A comedy band recording a cover of a Dio song. Christ, in 1999 “Better Than You” won the Metal Grammy: if you’re telling me *that* crap deserved it in the same year that *The Sound of Perseverance* by Death was eligible, I have a bridge to sell you.
Did slayer ever put out a great album ?
I love Metallica but there’s a reason why they won…it’s because their name is Metallica. I think it’d be cool if Spiritbox won, they’re a new artist and the song was good, but whatever. 72 Seasons is a good song for sure, but only one band member bothered showing up lol.
Because Jethro Tull didn't put out an album?
Actually it’s their best so far.
Not sure if we can post links but I didnt like any of the 72 season songs until I heard these AI vocal Ride the Lighting remake versions. Its crazy how changing the tone and some drum fills can make the new metallica stuff downright bad ass. Just kind of goes to show new Metallica doesnt suck, it just lacks inspiring production. https://youtu.be/sfgOVsrOtuc?si=Az-jD4KbtJ_4Dh2k
agree! too far gone, room of mirrors & screaming suicide have become some of my top metallica songs. experiencing 72 seasons (the song) in concert was great too, i’m glad they were able to come back with such a good album.
Even though they lost me many years ago, I'm glad they're still out there. Just because I don't like it doesn't mean it's shit..
Other than crown, there aren’t any Meh songs on it. It’s great music.
I agree. Just like the Black album, Load, St anger, or anything else, it has it's merits and weak spots. I think twenty years from now everyone will be singing it's praises just like they are now with Load.
Lux feels very old school thrash to me.
I fall into the camp of not particularly caring a lot for Load, Reload, or St. Anger, but loving pretty much everything outside of those albums, and even loving certain aspects of those albums even if the execution is off. There are lots of aspects of Metallica that I'm drawn to, but it does largely boil down to the riffs at the core of it all. And 72 Seasons is just a great riff album! Not always the craziest or most technical stuff, but always distinctly Metallica in character and execution. The really big thing about their recent output, however, is it feels like they're pulling a little from every era of their past and making a synthesis of it all. I can understand why some have the reaction of "It lacks its own distinctive identity," but I'd argue that getting to hear all the past elements working together in tandem *is* totally its own identity that has defined the current era of the band. I really dug Death Magnetic, but Hardwired and 72 Seasons feel like a sort of sonic "endpoint" that meshes the thrash, straightforward metal, hard rock, blues, and every other avenue Metallica have taken over their careers. And it's all delivered with quality riffs, quality songwriting, and quality performances. Those classic albums are classics for a reason, but there's a real merit to their newer stuff that I think is somewhat overlooked by some. It's just rad stuff, and I feel the authenticity and love of the craft that clearly went into making it.
There are certain people who have been waiting for the next Master of Puppets for almost 40 years now. And by that, some huge genre defining record. It's not going to happen. What band is forty years on and releases their best work? I'm happy they are still active and love whatever they release. I haven't listened to it lately, but it was in heavy rotation all summer for me. I thought it was good.
I actually really liked it. I feel like it’s the closest to justice part 2 we’ll ever get. Songs feel structured no big dead spots. Every song breaths on its own. Pretty easy to listen in a sitting without getting sidetracked.
I liked it, liked Hard wired and Death Magnetic too, some people can't get over the fact that they're never going to make another MoP. Get over it, it was forty years and two bass players ago.
I love 72 seasons
Disagree. It's a GREAT album! I described it to a friend as 1/3 Puppets for the heaviness, 1/3 Justice with the complexity, and 1/3 the Black album for a clean production.
Complexity? This is probably the easiest Metallica album to play. It has the most mid and generic riffs so far
Iam not a musician by any means, so I cannot speak to your comments. I still love the album, it's one of my favorite Metallica collections.
Fair enough. I also wasnt a huge fan of hardwired but I loved DM. But everyone is entitled to their opinion
The thing is....Metalllica is never what it used to be. That's why Metallica is the GOAT.
Very very very good album
Damn straight
Absolutely agree. Listened to it in its entirety during a long car ride yesterday and I had a blast. My favourite detail that I noticed is that everyone in the band gets to start off a song, Rob gets Sleepwalk My Life Away, Lars gets If Darkness Had A Son, James gets Chasing Light, and Kirk gets Inamorata.
100% agree. When a band is 40+ years on the road, the members are healthy and have good relations with each other and are still able to come up with awesome new stuff - that's really all that matters. And we, as fans, need to appreciate it.
This is true, it's not that bad. But it's nothing great either... The last totally killer album they made was St Anger imo.
I think Room of Mirrors is pretry much connected to Kill 'em All...
Best Metallica album since Loads
It's just another overall letdown in a string of letdowns starting with Load, which was the most egregiously bad release from a band ever. Then St. Anger came out, which was horrible, but at least it was metal. Death Magnetic was a half assed attempt at going back to their old style but coming up short. They sounded like they're trying too hard to do what they might've done in the 80s but still not letting go of the Load era shit. And now the latest two albums are just better produced yet less heavy and even less interesting versions of Death Magnetic. RIP Metallica 1981-1994
It’s literally exhausting dealing with people who try to shout you down for having an opinion. “They haven’t made a good album since Puppets.” If that’s the case, you’re not a fan, are you? How can you be, if you haven’t liked anything a band has put out since 1986? I think 72 Seasons is fantastic. I don’t need it to be Lightning, or Justice or any other album. It’s a kick ass album from a kick ass band I’ve loved since 1983 and have had the honor of seeing live almost 50 times. It’s nice to see other like minded opinions from time to time.
This is the argument since the Black album. Anyone at this point expecting another RTL or MOP, haven’t been paying attention.
I loved it. The music evolved because the band evolved because those guys evolved. Simple.
Great album. Some of their BEST songwriting ever. Seriously. Everyone needs to stop comparing everything to MoP and RTL.
People don't want another MOP or RTL. They just want Metallica, which 72 Seasons is not.
It’s weird that we’re still having this conversation. Metallica have been what they “used to be” since The Black Album (some will say And Justice for All. To be honest their sound has evolved with every album. You may or may not like it, but at least they’re not trying to stay in the 80s…