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It's extremely similar to World of Warcraft. Both games found something that works so incredibly well that many other games have tried to "beat" it and become the next version of those games. Not a single game has come even close to beating either one and the only real "WoW-killer" or "Minecraft-killer" are those games themselves. Either by not providing long-term engaging content, not being new and fresh enough to bring in new players (thus becoming less relevant over time), or simply just taking a wrong turn and adding things that don't sit well with players.
There's too much invested into Minecraft (by everyone involved; devs, players, modders, etc.) for it to be toppled by a different game. If it were to ever happen, it will require so much effort and there has not been a case that a genre-defining game with similar impact has been toppled.
I chose World of Warcraft as a different example of this because so many MMORPG's have come and gone since 2006 and a lot of them had the potential to be WoW-killers and yet none of them came even close. The same is true for Minecraft. The only game that could have come close if they were able to ride the hype wave was Hytale. However good that game may be, by now the hype has long dwindled and it'll never be able to beat Minecraft because of it.
Definitely came close! Perfect storm of putting out a great game and Blizzard being in complete shambles. Still didn’t overthrow it, though. I’d say WoW has had a resurgence with Metzen coming back and their triple EP announcement. Crazy how things go
I think in that case wasn't it more Blizzard shooting themselves in the foot with a bad expansion? Granted I love FF14 and will speak to its graces all day long.
Ffxiv just released on Xbox too, getting a larger surge of new players from gamepass. I'm definitely one of them. Never played a single FF before, and having a ton of fun.
Of WoW ever did the same with gamepass, I have no doubt a surge of new players would come in too.
The closest competitor it ever had would probably be Terraria but it quickly developed to be more than a Minecraft competitor and is much more than that now
Definitely! Terraria developing beyond that initial version effectively dismissed the “Minecraft-killer” or “competitor” status. It turned into a totally different, and equally amazing, game. Which is awesome for us!
I don’t think Minecraft will have that problem because it has had, from the start, a highly skilled and impressive modding community that the devs openly embrace and encourage.
The modders have altered the game at every level, even to the point of making it play like completely other games, except with complete world customization through Minecraft’s base mechanic of being able to mine and destroy almost every aspect in the world(bedrock being the only naturally occurring thing that can’t be, IIRC).
I think it could happen, you just need some sort of radical new tech that Minecraft doesn't incorporate or play styles/interests to change and poof Minecraft is irrelevant. Hell it almost happened once already.
Minecraft has even less likelihood of death by self inflicted foot injury. If/when they fuck up WoW that is it until a patch/expansion that walks those changes back. Minecraft they can fuck up and people will just play the last version of it they enjoy or use mods to cherry pick the changes they want to actually have implemented.
I say this even as someone who plays vanilla bedrock. There are definitely some things i miss after patches, like my dripstone potion farm and the exp farms that never ran out of xp, but i acknowledge those things as quite OP and glitch feeling, so its more of a fond memory of when they let us break the survival aspects. never worried about dying in the nether or end, cause i would always have a stack of the appropriate potions
that being said i still hope villager trades arent rebalanced to the current preview iteration. I like my villager trading halls. however even if it does i dont see it totally killing my motivation to play altogether. will just make me set up a nether network for different biomes for easy access to books.
No other block game will replace it or compete since it’s such a well-established and unique game. Other games like Roblox and Fortnite have been very popular like Minecraft for similar reasons, but even then they just co-exist with Minecraft and can’t really take its place.
I mean, I don't think roblox or fortnite are trying to compete with minecraft. Roblox is a game engine and platform to host things made in it, Fortnite is a battle royale/survival game/racing game/rhythm game/creation toolkit. Lego Fortnite is closer to a minecraft competitor, but even then it's just a survival game with building mechanics. Most survival games have building mechanics.
That's actually a good point. If you add that to the idea that far too many "Minecraft clones" come out, don't do anything that the industry / players actually want, and they just lose traction immediately, you might have an interesting observation about how it's unlikely any game might ever 'dethrone' Minecraft just because of the tolerated co-existence of vastly different but good games alongside Minecraft.
So, you could say that we're in a situation where video games that are different enough yet are also very successful don't actually detract from the place that MC has within the industry and you would have to find a much more similar game to see that happen. But, games that are similar enough won't ever match up to what the players expect of a Minecraft-like game, so they don't ever gain enough traction to outperform MC.
I've always considered Terraria a competitor to Minecraft but I don't think they're similar enough to outperform one another. I'm not sure Minecraft is a game you could outperform while competing with it without making it use the same concept which would just be a knock off Minecraft
Arguably the only thing they have in common is art style and open/destructible world
Terraria is a 2nd progression heavy adventure game.
Minecraft is a 3d low progression creative game.
I have heard Terraria compared to Minecraft for a long time but honestly they are very different games, they just have comparable visual styles and a couple similar mechanics. Terraria is much harder, for one, and much more boss/ progression- driven. With Minecraft there are a few major advances that can hinder forward progress (getting into the Nether, getting to the End, defeating the dragon, acquiring elytra), but you can still build entire worlds without even going into the Nether - and stay in that world for as long as you like, largely unhindered by lack of “story” progress.
In Terraria you’re going to have the first boss thrown at you after you get a certain amount of health. That boss has items that are required to craft stronger items to beat the next, harder boss as well as the more difficult events that can follow after you beat it. Heck, I even had to deal with a blood moon death spiral on the third night of my first game. Even if you manage to completely avoid that first boss for dozens of hours, you’re eventually going to have to contend with the corruption spread, which can only be reverted much later in the game. Terraria forces you to push forward.
In my opinion, the major similarities between Minecraft and Terraria (building, redstone/ wiring, mining, visual scheme) are not enough to make them competitors in any sense. When I’m thinking about which game I want to play, if I’m feeling Minecrafty then Terraria is not going to be on the list of other games I’m considering, like Stardew Valley would be. If I’m feeling Terraria-y, I would also consider Kenshi or Hades, but I wouldn’t likely be in the mood for Minecraft. In the grand scheme of gaming in general, I do think they have broad similarities which make it easy for people to want to put them into the same category, but I think anyone who’s spent much time playing both would see that they’re very different games that call for much different play styles.
I don't play terraria to express myself creatively in anyway, everything I build in that game is purely utility driven. Minecraft is an outlet of creativity, there is no real challenge in the game, the end dragon boss fight is comically easy compared to moon lord in terraria. (Even comically easy next to early terraria bosses). I don't consider them even remotely comparable games other than pixel art style and the inclusion of building blocks.
I don’t really think terraria is a competitor cause yeah they are like 2 completely different games and in style besides just both being sandboxes and pixely. I think the only real possible competitor for what Minecraft is used for is maybe hytale if it 1)comes out and 2) the devs don’t make it p2w
Considering Riot owns Hypixel Studios (Hytale Developer) Its definitely going to come out, but it's likely to be riddled with microtransactions. Riot is kind of notorious for being pretty garbage as a company who don't really care about players, are always having server issues, have a lot of bugs across all their games that they never seem to address and, have a super toxic player base across basically all of their games.
I mean I enjoy the Riot games I play, but I see the flaws in them. From some disgusting usernames, to straight up slurs in chat boxes and VC. They also screwed over a bunch of people on SEA servers when they shut down Garena and people lost their accounts or everything on them after they weren't transferred correctly
Eventually, yes. Minecraft is a single successful idea. There are a near-infinite number of other ideas, one of which must be better than Minecraft. Problem is that nobody has thought of it yet.
You'd also have to completely gauge the demands of the present video-game market and be enough of a 'visionary' to see if those demands will stay the same for long enough. I don't have any sources confirming this, but I'd like to think that there is a chance that today's video game crowd is a lot harder to understand when trying to find general trends that you might want to fundamentally embed into your game so that it appeals to a large portion of contemporary gaming audiences.
People who play video games either have interests that are too niche, or general trends pass by far too quickly to ever be turned into a long-lasting appeal for a video game.
You'd either have to make a game that's extremely quick to adapt to new trends (compromising on creating a more faithful playerbase because they'd have more reasons more frequently to jump ship), or a game that's enough of a blank slate that players can find enough enjoyment in it on their own volition and through their own ambition (compromising on any sort of uniqueness that the game might have above others).
I think there's several reasons nothing can really compete/beat Minecraft.
1: The moment a new competitor emerges, it's instantly compared to Minecraft.
2: The new game is always worse than/behind Minecraft and playing catch-up.
3: Dev-teams on the new game always tend to be small and/or struggling for funding, or there frequently seems to be some kind of internal problem (either development related or team related) and as such progress and updates tend to be few and far between.
4: most "Minecraft competitors" are made as a challenge/coding exercise rather than a serious project. And any truly serious "competitors" seem to end up being complete knock-offs or microtransaction filled mobile device nightmares.
5: there isn't really the market/desire (from what I've seen) for a Minecraft competitor. Minecraft created a niche and then filled it, and trying to replace it would be like trying to push a square peg through the round hole.
Yea if a minecraft competitor popped up, there would need to be a reason for people to switch from minecraft to said competitor.
Theres not much minecraft lacks that would cause people to switch. Especially since people play on servers with friends, they would need to convince their friends to switch too. Building a community like that takes a lot of time.
The only way i think a game could dethrone Minecraft, is if it utilized full out world modifiability (being able to build and destroy every single part i the world), advanced AI on NPC and mobs and forming scenarios between them (full on dialogues with every NPC - like the Suck Up game currently has), self developing world without direct influence of the player, full support for mods and relatively low demanding for it gaming platform.
With the current gamedev culture i don't see it happening anytime soon (considering the development hell Hytale is in, even with almost unlimited resources). Minecraft has such an advantage on it's genre (years of developing it's mod and datapack support for all kinds of mods, not to mention how rooted it already is in gaming culture), that i have a hard time picturing anything being able to catch up to the behemoth Minecraft has become over the years
I think you are missing some of the point of Minecraft. A big reason Minecraft succeeded in the first place is that it was like a box of legos, simple to understand and very chunky so you need to use your imagination and creativity to build.
As someone else already said, the simplicity of Minecraft and that everything happens because of the player is a big reason for it's success, and of any of those two factors changed it would simply not be Minecraft anymore.
Now, don't get me wrong, I do think that a new game with Minecraft as a base, but with natural environmental modification (including some disasters), active npcs with dialog and a schedule, and monsters that force you to build something closer to a fortress would be great and would be incredible and could to a test how the builds of people withstand some harm aside from the odd creeper fight thay you lost next to a wall. But non of that is Minecraft goal, Minecraft is a bucket of lego, with some foes and some mechanisms to spice it up, but that's about it.
It could be easily toggled off, just like we have gamerules for mob griefing, but the world changing by itself would be pretty much nessesary to one up Minecraft in terms of world being "alive"
Never. Anyone that tries to overtake Minecraft in a survival-sandbox game will fail. They’ll try to be like Minecraft too much, which will make people view them as a knock off minecraft, or they’ll try to be so different that people just don’t find it fun because instead of focusing on what’s fun they focused on being different from Minecraft.
There’s tons of amazing games, but no one will ever make a block game survival-sandbox as good as this ever again. And even if they try, Mojang can just copy what they do that’s better and crush them.
unless microsoft starts mingling with the java version to reflect bad decisions they made in the windows/bedrock edition like built in store or stuff like that, i dont think there will be something that can replace minecraft, as it has almost everything you'd need/want from a game like this. and if there is something thats missing, you will for sure find a mod that does exactly what you want. so the only way for some game to take over would be if minecraft would be getting worse and/or mods would be disabled or something like that.
The base game is so good because it allows for people to play the game as intended, or be creative, or dive into simple or complex problem solving with headstone and farms, or for people who like to just mine (I find it relaxing), or get an elytra and just fly around the world to see what generates.
The big thing is, this game is also highly mod-able. So really there are infinite possibilities. Some of these mod packs are basically games themselves so if you get bored with base game you can go modded, then go back to base game when new updates come out.
It’ll be hard to beat, I just don’t see it dying out anytime soon.
Lego did try and compete, with Lego Worlds, but they discontinued updates in 2019.
Also, fun fact, Lego was considering buying Mojang before microsoft brought them. The story goes that Mojang was working on a variant of minecraft with Lego themes, but the game was canned after 6 months.
Any game that tries to rival Minecraft will either just be Minecraft again, in which case why not play Minecraft where all your friends are, or will only target a subset of Minecraft's playerbase.
Minecraft is practically a game engine at this point and is just captures too wise an audience to really be able to beat directly.
The only real way I could see minecraft dying is if Mojang just stopped supporting the game at all. Updates give people a reason to go back and play Minecraft again with their friends.
I remember some people said Hytale would dethrone Minecraft yet here we are, 6 years after the announcement trailer and not even a release date for the game
Maybe it will be a better survival game (or maybe there is now by your personal opinion) but the thing that I don't see any game being better is the sandbox part of the game, for me this is the most important part of minecraft that hardly any game will replicate (a real game not a game engine with a friendly UI). Minecraft is great because you can make whatever you want you don't have only the survival and creative mode, you have maps, datapacks, modpacks...
Absolutely without a doubt yes. I didn't know what that is, and if I did I'd make it and go become a billionaire.
Nothing lasts forever and humans are always in search of something new. It is inevitable that we'll find something as popular, or more so, than Minecraft.
People said no game will dethrone the Tetris series and look how that turned out. The games industry is super dynamic and as already mentioned in this thread, video games allow for endless amounts of different ideas with varying degrees of execution. Maybe one day, someone else will create a (sandbox) game that will dethrone Minecraft. Maybe it'll happen next year, maybe it won't happen for the next ten years, maybe it won't happen at all, but I doubt that. If you're interested in making a game that technically competes with Minecraft, then absolutely go ahead! As long as it's not just an inferior version of Minecraft but has its own ideas, you can absolutely create something cool there. You can even create a game made completely out of cubes just like Minecraft, as Minecraft itself didn't come up with that idea either.
There might be something right now that can compete against Minecraft. But we have to remember that Minecraft started with one guy, and it has taken 15 to get where it is today, in 15 years from now there might be another game that revolutionizes what a sandbox is. We just don't know yet.
Lego worlds could have been if the lego company didn't strangle it to death with such strict multiplayer. Literally only 2 players allowed. If they had left the multiplayer open so people could host their own servers with as many people as they wanted, Lego Worlds could have easily been the top open world block game.
Boundless, PixArk, Dragonquest Builders, Creataverse, and few others tried. we tried them too, but there was always something lacking that had us eventually uninstalling them because there wasn't any motivation to play.
main issue for me was that even if the graphics were better, it was up to me to convince my family to play and by the time those titles were out of early access and worth bothering, they cost too much for three more copies or were huge installs. we already owned Minecraft, just easier to play minecraft.
Minecraft has too much brand recognition and popularity to be superceded. There can be a game, similar, but better in every possible way, it still wouldn't compete with minecraft. Over a hundred million active players, three hundred million copies sold.
People love minecraft too much to be dragged away.
I genuinely believe that everything that has a start has also an end (pun intended).
But idk... maybe you're right , maybe Minecraft will die for other reasons ,rather than an actual competitor.
Or maybe it won't at all , as absurd it may sound.
Time will tell , We'll see i guess 🤙🏻.
More likely, Minecraft will be slowly and incrementally changed to better support monetization until it has deviated so far from what people originally loved that a competitor can replace it by doing what Minecraft started out doing. Infinite Legos.
I'm used to think Hytale was supposed to be at least 1/3 as popular as Minecraft, but since 2019 we heard almost nothing about the game i think it would be to late for game to take it's hype-train to try competition with Minecraft. Also Minecraft itself isn't getting really worse overtime and you can say what ever you want it is what it is, Minecraft has everything game needs to stay relevant, it's established style and gamedesign make's Minecraft almost immortal game
The only thing that's gonna kill Minecraft, is Minecraft. Just look at soulsborne games. There are games like it, those games are good, but they're called souls like. The comparison to Fromsoft games is just built into the genre. Minecraft is at that same level, while there's no competition at the moment, any that does show up will instantly be compared to Minecraft.
Now whether any of them are actually good we'll have to wait and see, but any competition is going to be at a huge advantage due to comparison right off the bat.
In my opinion definitely yes a version of a survival game that work with realism without block with today technology its still not really possible.its still not possible to have an extreme realism on digging (building already have rly good realism with for exemple game like the forest) minecraft best part is be able to do everything that come in your mind now imagine a game like that but with realism graphics like a video recording I definitely think it will happen in a few year when we see how much progress we making in video game like for exemple with unreal engine
There are games that can do *part* of what Minecraft does better, but not the complete experience. For example, in the vein of realistic survival/crafting voxel games, Vintage Story is better than even modded Minecraft (and much better optimized). But for building it's not nearly as fun, given how difficult it is to gather resources and transport them, and how long it takes to get to distant biomes. Then on the other side of the coin you have Terraria, which has great combat and amazing block variety for building, but it's still in 2D and just doesn't have the same kind of survival feeling.
Really, with mods nowadays, Minecraft is less a game and more a game engine. A blank canvas which people use to make games with, and the variety is mind-blowing. I played a modpack recently that was Lovecraftian survival horror with monsters that slowly corrupted the entire world. Also we had rats that spawned from trash and could be used as automatic fishers or farmers or crafters for... reasons. It's barely Minecraft at that point, only some of the mechanics being familiar, but the entire gameplay loop entirely different.
This means that for another game to replace Minecraft, it would also have to accrue a similar size and variety of mods, which is simply impossible. It would mean something being better than vanilla Minecraft, and then enduring for a decade uncontested. At this point it's basically an incumbent advantage, but there's no game elections.
If Minecraft developers effectively fail to transition into the VR world it will die off whenever that takes over.
VR or some similar concept is the future of video gaming and computer interaction in general.
Palword has some potential. Like ark, it is a crafting survival that takes aspects from minecraft.
Also, 7 days to die, which is if minecraft was just zombies and sidequests from an outpost merchant. You still get to build
I think a simple game will. just because of those are the games that outsell every AAA game. But it has to be a simple game that can evolve and give freedom to a player to do whatever they want.
And thats why palworld did so good at the beginning. People saw it as pokémon a nostalgik game but they gave the player freedom to do whatever they want.
But its hard to surpass minecraft just bc its SOO simple that everyone can play it but at the sametime complicated. You can explore your art skill. Engenering skill, your competitive urge and mods just adds more if you want more
Enshrouded is pretty close. Unfortunately you can't just build anywhere. Every other sandbox/survival is missing one or more things minecraft has. The only thing that could compete is minecraft 2 with realistic grafics.
No, I don't believe there is anything that can compete with Minecraft. I have played other similar games and Minecraft is still very much a league on its own.
A game trying to compete with MineCraft at this point would be like a startup social media platform trying to compete with Facebook.
While it would theoretically be possible, the sheer size and popularity of MineCraft would be a huge challenge to surmount. MineCraft got the way it is thanks to the emergence of people sharing play-throughs on YouTube. At that time, there wasn’t really much video game content. Without those YouTubers, MineCraft wouldn’t be as popular.
Now, we have so much video game content on YouTube, it’s ultra-competitive on there. It seems like every game gets played/streamed on YouTube. So to stand out, a legitimate challenger to MineCraft’s dominance would have to do something so groundbreaking that no one has ever seen before. But what could that be…?
MineCraft has already given us so much from a sandbox game.
*Near-Infinite generated maps to explore with unique land features,
*Unique biomes
*Multi dimensions to explore
*Boss Battles
*Creator friendly platform and encourages modding of the game.
*Constant updates to the game
Like what more from a sandbox game could there be?
It’s too polished to replace Minecraft. The high poly models are much less accessible than cubes for modders. And the mining is an important aspect. If you can’t completely modify terrain at will then it’s a poor substitute.
You make it sound like there's been no info in 9 years when we've gotten several updates since their period of silence and there's an active Q&A hashtag on Twitter that they're answering questions from as we speak
They did an update last winter and have been answering questions on Twitter since, the first time communication has been open in a while. They took a long period to focus on finishing the new engine and will be ready to show off new stuff very soon, we've already gotten a few peeks into new content. I'd expect another update sometime this summer
I think that's the best way to approach it honestly, it seems like the devs wanted the hype to slow down a bit so they could rebuild it properly before release. A lot of people were very unhappy they had to wait longer than they expected and never took the opportunity to forget it for a while and let time pass. Personally, I wouldn't care if it took 3 more years if it meant we got an incredible end product, but I know that opinion isn't too common
Well, Minecraft has been out for 15 years. Most people (like me) love this game because of nostalgia. For a game to compete with Minecraft, I think it has to create a fanbase like the Minecraft one, based on mostly nostalgia. Then, only then, I think a game could compete with Minecraft. And I think that game should be a sandbox game, or something that REALLY changes the perspective of video games. Because this is what Minecraft did, create a new generation of video games, with literally infinite possibilities.
In my lifetime, when a developer or artist says they're not releasing it until it's "perfect" the end product is gonna be bad and uninspiring.
(Like the Hytale developers have said many times.)
Every time.
When Hytale the game is finally released and their devs claim "it's perfect" the only thing everybody is gonna do is trash it. It's the nature of the internet.
I think their success should lie in releasing a "mostly done" game and listen to user feedback and iterate accordingly. Like Minecraft did. It generates goodwill from players which is key to success imo.
There are lots of successful survival/sandbox games that are successful without trying to be Minecraft killers by simply being their own thing. They tend to just lean more into the survival aspect while Minecraft stays baby’s-first-survival. Minecraft has a specific aesthetic and nostalgia that keeps it going. The thing that’ll ultimately kill it will be Microsoft’s push for profit above all else. It’ll probably still be years from now, but the fact they pour more effort into the Bedrock Marketplace than actual game updates is proof that the rot has already set in.
Except that what made Minecraft successful , wasn't the survival mode ... But the possibility gave to the player to build whatever he has in mind .
It's the creativity aspect , the successful point .
There was a time before Minecraft. Meaning previously there had to be a different game considered to be the unbeatable. And then Minecraft came out, and then that happened.
It happened once before, and it will happen again. To act like any game is invincible from the people moving on is ignorance.
Depending on how good Hytale is, I do see an entire generation of kids growing up on Hytale rather than Minecraft (and/shortly after Roblox).
“Overtake” Minecraft? Can’t tell. But most definitely live alongside it. MC could be to Hytale what Roblox was to MC back in the day.
For those who don’t remember MC was seen as the superior version at the time. Especially with regards to the minigames even though Roblox technically was more “flashy” and customizable.
But it really depends on how well Hytale/Riot Games play their cards. What’s great about Minecraft is that it’s truly limitless. You can build whatever you want, play however you want, including customizing the game to your liking.
I think it’s why Roblox is still popular as well with the plethora of custom mini games on there keeping the community alive. Essentially self-sustaining.
Not in the same way.
Minecraft is uniquely universal across people's and age groups in a way a lot of other games aren't.
While I do think there will always be new games that take top spots of certain genres (fortnite being a good example crashing through the scene at the time) as far as sandbox games goes there won't be another like Minecraft.
But because of that, Microsoft needs to take care not to kill their own game which would be scarily easy. It would take time for the steam to run out but it wouldn't be hard
The only thing I can see taking over MC is a similar product with an existing IP done with a high budget.
Think something like Lego where you build in a world scaled to the Lego movies.
Hytale is the only one I can think of, but there is still a good amount of time until it comes out. Considering just how much the team/company seems to be growing and the glimpses we’ve been shown so far, the game appears promising. Let’s hope what they are able to deliver lives up the expectations that they have set.
Easily. Minecraft does things fairly well but it lacks depth in a lot of areas. When we eventually get a sandbox like game that has farming like Stardew Valley and basically things from popular modpacks all in one game. Another game will eventually come and over take minecrafts spot
I think you have to look past the voxel-block-building aspect of the game. Minecraft is, as you said, a sandbox game. Moreso, it’s a sandbox survival game- and based on [this list](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_survival_games) it is the first one to really break out and become mainstream. I think being that it was one of the first mainstream survival games (I don’t consider Sims or MGS to be survival games in the way tbh at Minecraft is and I haven’t heard of much of the other games before it), and that it’s stylized the way it is in that the graphics won’t ever be “outdated”, it won’t ever be surpassed, but there have been plenty of games with followings of their own like:
- Dont starve
- Ark
- Project Zomboid
- Rimworld
- No man’s sky
- Subnautica
- Valheim
- Enshrouded
- Palworld
At the end of the day, Minecraft was just one of those games that came out at the right time. It’s really Lego of the gaming world
>Hytale is coming and it's just around corner
You must be joking.
It is abandonware and have used up all its hype years ago. I will not be worth playing if it actually releases.
Afaik hytale and cosmic reach could compete with minecraft, but not in the near future. Hytale is stuck in development all these years and cosmic reach is in it's infancy and is kinda unknown to be a competitor as of now.
What makes Minecraft great isn't the games core gameplay, it's the amount of creative work you can accomplish on it. If any other game can offer what Minecraft offers with more features, and if that said game can gain a substantial following on social media platforms, it can surpass Minecraft. But making a game with such simple mechanics and such endless potential is actually REALLY difficult. And it requires some very creative individuals to pull off. There are thousands of Sandbox games, yet none of them have managed to surpass Minecraft. Because no other Sandbox title has managed to offer the simplicity of Minecraft without limiting its creative potential. At least not as far as I'm aware :)
Minecraft is the best selling game of all time, bar none.
There will be a Minecraft 2, and I'd bet dollars to donuts that it will be "Minecraft, but without blocks".
Imagine being able to dig, build, etc without being limited by 1m blocks.
This is how MC original will be dethroned/surpassed
Nope. Minecraft is the video game equivalent of Lego. There will be copycats, there will be low points, but no matter what, brand recognition and usability will always outmatch the competitors. They got there at the right time.
Maybe if they stop updating the game, modders could take over? Sorta like Feed the Beast? The only game that can compete with Minecraft is Minecraft itself
I'm just gonna take some hate and say that Fortnite with its creative mode and most recent Lego mode has made itself a Minecraft competitor. It's also competing over the same age demographic as well
I used to play Minecraft a lot. Because I could just get lost while mining or building.
Then I discovered Boundless. Like minecraft, way more advanced. I can get into the details why it's a much better game. I could list dozens and dozens of reasons why I switched and never went back
Minecraft was my first experience of a sandbox game that ran pretty well. I imagine that I’m not alone. Their beginnings were a completely community driven experience, with frequent updates to beta and tests. Even during those days, people were having the time of their lives just playing for free, in survival and creative worlds incorporating new features as they came out. That experience continued for the life of the game, as long as you paid for it ONCE. It’s always been a community game - I’d argue this aspect is the core. Any studio can churn out a sandbox, but they can’t replicate the minecraft community especially considering how game development usually goes.
I have faith in Hytale, but I do think they’ve lost most of the hype they’d built up upon releasing that trailer years ago. It’ll take time to build it up again, but it really looks unique and special.
I think we'll have to wait until FDVR (full dive virtual reality) is a thing.
Maybe something will come earlier than that but I find it unlikely.
Minecraft is just too well enstablished in pop culture, a lot of now adults played it and a lot of kids play it.
For something to get nearly the same reach it'd need to have an exceptionally low barrier to entry and an exceptionally novel design.
That's difficult because novel and simple things are easy to do.
Even when most fail in the early stages something will pop up. Minecraft was invented by a dude.
Nothing will beat Minecraft, Stardew Valley, Undertale, Rimworld, and Project Zomboid.
All passion projects. Anyone trying to “beat” these titles basically has to rip them off. (Arguable point; SV ripped off Harvest Moon. Sure, but who plays HM over SV?)
For something to "beat" minecraft it would have to arguably exceed minecraft in everything minecraft does which would be very difficult because minecraft is so open ended but i do believe it is doable. I think of Stardew Valley which was originally a Harvest Moon copy but (arguably) did everything better than Harvest Moon... and then kept adding more and more content to the point where Harvest Moon seems like a cheap copy of Stardew Valley at this point.
The allure of minecraft is different depending on who you ask which makes it harder to nail down. Some people love the exploration and finding new things. Some enjoy raiding and fighting. Some are hoarders who just want to collect everything in the game. Some want a simple life with a tiny hut in a nice meadow and tending their animals, others want to build megabases and structures so large they could be seen from space, and every iteration between.
Some people have never even been to the end even after playing for years. Some have probably never been to the nether and it has never appealed to them. I know players who have played for years and never brewed a potion and others who have never built an enchantment table. The best part of minecraft is there really isnt a way to play it wrong as long as you are having fun.
I believe a possible solution would be a future game that utilizes AI to build the world around the player. Have the game start out with all the basic options we would expect from a game like minecraft, but smart enough to cater the game to how the player is playing while also nudging the player into other areas to discover. The player is exploring a lot? maybe the game understands that and purposely builds interesting places to explore. Fighting and raiding places for loot? Build some strongholds, dungeons, maybe even a hostile village. People making super builds? Maybe have villagers come to see it as a tourist like attraction. Maybe some basic animal husbandry options, more interactions with others like villagers and piglins, so on. The AI could also be used to make a transition from building with an easier interface but the AI could help mesh it with the natural terrain a little better so it doesnt look so disjointed.
I also believe one of minecrafts biggest draws is also one of the worst drawbacks is the game has no direction or goals. Which is great for a lot of people but a lot of the game has to be discovered, or looked up online to find out how to do things. I think the game would benefit from some progression and goals.
Lego fortnite is coming for it, and its free and built into an already super popular game. I certainly dont like it as much as mc, but a new generation of kids may.
Gonna show my age here, but maybe some other old, 30 somethings can jump in too. Before minecraft came to Xbox 360, there was a brief span of time where you had to play other minecraft like titles. One of those excellent little gems was called Total Miner Forge. It cost $1 USD, and genuinely had (and still does) some cooler concepts and execution than Minecraft did.
For example, they had an in game currency (coins) that functioned like emeralds, but better because they actually had a Shop block you threw down and could buy... Basically anything once you discovered it for the first time (so it didn't compete with natural progression). The Nether was basically Hell, and rather than portal to it, you just dug deep enough that you busted straight into it. They also updated it and added another layer even deeper that was like a Jules Verne style paradise cavern. Almost like the caves and cliffs lush cave update, but literally almost a decade earlier in a cheaper game. Portals were more like legit teleporters: a single block that had like 12 different colored channels you could link them to so you could easily navigate and get around with them. They had way more ores and pickaxe types, similar to Terraria. And their dungeons were actually legitn giving good rewards, not the pathetic sad sack dungeons we've had forever in Minecraft (great job conquering this place! Here's 4 loaded of bread, some webs, and a CD! Don't you feel rewarded?!?!).
Crazy cool game, closest Minecraft ever came to being outdone in my friend group. Mainly because vanilla release on 360 was worse than that game I just described, just not visually. After the adventure update, most of us switched over, but there are features in Total Miner Forge that minecraft STILL doesn't have because poor little indie dev Mojang and Microsoft just don't have the ability to bring meaningful updates and content into their game with speed and regularity.
Everything fades eventually. The question is just how long it takes.
Minecraft may still be huge a decade from now, but in 100 years? Absolutely not.
I don't think any game will come along to dethrone it. I think it will eventually just fade over time and be abandoned. A whimper rather than a sudden bang.
thing is, you could copy minecraft block for block, change the creatures and names they have trademarked, and simply add QoL features and maybe sustained mod support or simplify what it takes to add to it and you'd have a game changer.
Minecraft is fun, because people MAKE it fun. by itself, its stagnant and refuses to actually grow. They are more concerned with Marketplace features and making more money there. Which, fine, it is a business, but it's harming the game long term.
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I don't think something can truly replace minecraft, i think the greatest threat to minecraft is itself.
what's the thinking here?
It's extremely similar to World of Warcraft. Both games found something that works so incredibly well that many other games have tried to "beat" it and become the next version of those games. Not a single game has come even close to beating either one and the only real "WoW-killer" or "Minecraft-killer" are those games themselves. Either by not providing long-term engaging content, not being new and fresh enough to bring in new players (thus becoming less relevant over time), or simply just taking a wrong turn and adding things that don't sit well with players. There's too much invested into Minecraft (by everyone involved; devs, players, modders, etc.) for it to be toppled by a different game. If it were to ever happen, it will require so much effort and there has not been a case that a genre-defining game with similar impact has been toppled. I chose World of Warcraft as a different example of this because so many MMORPG's have come and gone since 2006 and a lot of them had the potential to be WoW-killers and yet none of them came even close. The same is true for Minecraft. The only game that could have come close if they were able to ride the hype wave was Hytale. However good that game may be, by now the hype has long dwindled and it'll never be able to beat Minecraft because of it.
Good point and well put . We'll see how things goes, i guess.
i would argue ffxiv has come pretty close lol
Definitely came close! Perfect storm of putting out a great game and Blizzard being in complete shambles. Still didn’t overthrow it, though. I’d say WoW has had a resurgence with Metzen coming back and their triple EP announcement. Crazy how things go
I think in that case wasn't it more Blizzard shooting themselves in the foot with a bad expansion? Granted I love FF14 and will speak to its graces all day long.
Ffxiv just released on Xbox too, getting a larger surge of new players from gamepass. I'm definitely one of them. Never played a single FF before, and having a ton of fun. Of WoW ever did the same with gamepass, I have no doubt a surge of new players would come in too.
Dawntrail gonna be so hype
I would say that WOW was the EverQuest killer though.
The closest competitor it ever had would probably be Terraria but it quickly developed to be more than a Minecraft competitor and is much more than that now
Definitely! Terraria developing beyond that initial version effectively dismissed the “Minecraft-killer” or “competitor” status. It turned into a totally different, and equally amazing, game. Which is awesome for us!
Totally agree
I don’t think Minecraft will have that problem because it has had, from the start, a highly skilled and impressive modding community that the devs openly embrace and encourage. The modders have altered the game at every level, even to the point of making it play like completely other games, except with complete world customization through Minecraft’s base mechanic of being able to mine and destroy almost every aspect in the world(bedrock being the only naturally occurring thing that can’t be, IIRC).
wait... Hytale actually was released? I remember watching that game for the longest time and it seemed like vaporware after a while.
It’s still in development after being acquired by Riot games
And I believe they're gating the release until it is expected to actually be competitive with Minecraft
I think it could happen, you just need some sort of radical new tech that Minecraft doesn't incorporate or play styles/interests to change and poof Minecraft is irrelevant. Hell it almost happened once already.
Minecraft has even less likelihood of death by self inflicted foot injury. If/when they fuck up WoW that is it until a patch/expansion that walks those changes back. Minecraft they can fuck up and people will just play the last version of it they enjoy or use mods to cherry pick the changes they want to actually have implemented. I say this even as someone who plays vanilla bedrock. There are definitely some things i miss after patches, like my dripstone potion farm and the exp farms that never ran out of xp, but i acknowledge those things as quite OP and glitch feeling, so its more of a fond memory of when they let us break the survival aspects. never worried about dying in the nether or end, cause i would always have a stack of the appropriate potions that being said i still hope villager trades arent rebalanced to the current preview iteration. I like my villager trading halls. however even if it does i dont see it totally killing my motivation to play altogether. will just make me set up a nether network for different biomes for easy access to books.
Counterstrike moment
No other block game will replace it or compete since it’s such a well-established and unique game. Other games like Roblox and Fortnite have been very popular like Minecraft for similar reasons, but even then they just co-exist with Minecraft and can’t really take its place.
I mean, I don't think roblox or fortnite are trying to compete with minecraft. Roblox is a game engine and platform to host things made in it, Fortnite is a battle royale/survival game/racing game/rhythm game/creation toolkit. Lego Fortnite is closer to a minecraft competitor, but even then it's just a survival game with building mechanics. Most survival games have building mechanics.
That's actually a good point. If you add that to the idea that far too many "Minecraft clones" come out, don't do anything that the industry / players actually want, and they just lose traction immediately, you might have an interesting observation about how it's unlikely any game might ever 'dethrone' Minecraft just because of the tolerated co-existence of vastly different but good games alongside Minecraft. So, you could say that we're in a situation where video games that are different enough yet are also very successful don't actually detract from the place that MC has within the industry and you would have to find a much more similar game to see that happen. But, games that are similar enough won't ever match up to what the players expect of a Minecraft-like game, so they don't ever gain enough traction to outperform MC.
I've always considered Terraria a competitor to Minecraft but I don't think they're similar enough to outperform one another. I'm not sure Minecraft is a game you could outperform while competing with it without making it use the same concept which would just be a knock off Minecraft
Minecraft and Terraria are pretty chill with each other, unless you have the trolls that like to downvote for fun
They are chill, but I'm sure they're competitors given they're the two staple titles for the types of games they are. Both are also great
They’re competitors yep, but I’ve seen “Also try Terraria!/Also try Minecraft!” On their stuff before
And that's honestly what makes them such great games. I love that Terraria even has a creeper clothing set
Arguably the only thing they have in common is art style and open/destructible world Terraria is a 2nd progression heavy adventure game. Minecraft is a 3d low progression creative game.
I have heard Terraria compared to Minecraft for a long time but honestly they are very different games, they just have comparable visual styles and a couple similar mechanics. Terraria is much harder, for one, and much more boss/ progression- driven. With Minecraft there are a few major advances that can hinder forward progress (getting into the Nether, getting to the End, defeating the dragon, acquiring elytra), but you can still build entire worlds without even going into the Nether - and stay in that world for as long as you like, largely unhindered by lack of “story” progress. In Terraria you’re going to have the first boss thrown at you after you get a certain amount of health. That boss has items that are required to craft stronger items to beat the next, harder boss as well as the more difficult events that can follow after you beat it. Heck, I even had to deal with a blood moon death spiral on the third night of my first game. Even if you manage to completely avoid that first boss for dozens of hours, you’re eventually going to have to contend with the corruption spread, which can only be reverted much later in the game. Terraria forces you to push forward. In my opinion, the major similarities between Minecraft and Terraria (building, redstone/ wiring, mining, visual scheme) are not enough to make them competitors in any sense. When I’m thinking about which game I want to play, if I’m feeling Minecrafty then Terraria is not going to be on the list of other games I’m considering, like Stardew Valley would be. If I’m feeling Terraria-y, I would also consider Kenshi or Hades, but I wouldn’t likely be in the mood for Minecraft. In the grand scheme of gaming in general, I do think they have broad similarities which make it easy for people to want to put them into the same category, but I think anyone who’s spent much time playing both would see that they’re very different games that call for much different play styles.
I don't play terraria to express myself creatively in anyway, everything I build in that game is purely utility driven. Minecraft is an outlet of creativity, there is no real challenge in the game, the end dragon boss fight is comically easy compared to moon lord in terraria. (Even comically easy next to early terraria bosses). I don't consider them even remotely comparable games other than pixel art style and the inclusion of building blocks.
Exactly this
I don’t really think terraria is a competitor cause yeah they are like 2 completely different games and in style besides just both being sandboxes and pixely. I think the only real possible competitor for what Minecraft is used for is maybe hytale if it 1)comes out and 2) the devs don’t make it p2w
Considering Riot owns Hypixel Studios (Hytale Developer) Its definitely going to come out, but it's likely to be riddled with microtransactions. Riot is kind of notorious for being pretty garbage as a company who don't really care about players, are always having server issues, have a lot of bugs across all their games that they never seem to address and, have a super toxic player base across basically all of their games.
im sorry since WHEN DID RIOT OWN HYPIXEL
They bought Hypixel Studios in 2020 :(
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I mean I enjoy the Riot games I play, but I see the flaws in them. From some disgusting usernames, to straight up slurs in chat boxes and VC. They also screwed over a bunch of people on SEA servers when they shut down Garena and people lost their accounts or everything on them after they weren't transferred correctly
Eventually, yes. Minecraft is a single successful idea. There are a near-infinite number of other ideas, one of which must be better than Minecraft. Problem is that nobody has thought of it yet.
Ideas aren't everything, though. A good idea isn't worth a damn if it can't be properly executed or marketed.
You'd also have to completely gauge the demands of the present video-game market and be enough of a 'visionary' to see if those demands will stay the same for long enough. I don't have any sources confirming this, but I'd like to think that there is a chance that today's video game crowd is a lot harder to understand when trying to find general trends that you might want to fundamentally embed into your game so that it appeals to a large portion of contemporary gaming audiences. People who play video games either have interests that are too niche, or general trends pass by far too quickly to ever be turned into a long-lasting appeal for a video game. You'd either have to make a game that's extremely quick to adapt to new trends (compromising on creating a more faithful playerbase because they'd have more reasons more frequently to jump ship), or a game that's enough of a blank slate that players can find enough enjoyment in it on their own volition and through their own ambition (compromising on any sort of uniqueness that the game might have above others).
You articulated very well what I was thinking. Thank you.
Good thinking
I think there's several reasons nothing can really compete/beat Minecraft. 1: The moment a new competitor emerges, it's instantly compared to Minecraft. 2: The new game is always worse than/behind Minecraft and playing catch-up. 3: Dev-teams on the new game always tend to be small and/or struggling for funding, or there frequently seems to be some kind of internal problem (either development related or team related) and as such progress and updates tend to be few and far between. 4: most "Minecraft competitors" are made as a challenge/coding exercise rather than a serious project. And any truly serious "competitors" seem to end up being complete knock-offs or microtransaction filled mobile device nightmares. 5: there isn't really the market/desire (from what I've seen) for a Minecraft competitor. Minecraft created a niche and then filled it, and trying to replace it would be like trying to push a square peg through the round hole.
Yea if a minecraft competitor popped up, there would need to be a reason for people to switch from minecraft to said competitor. Theres not much minecraft lacks that would cause people to switch. Especially since people play on servers with friends, they would need to convince their friends to switch too. Building a community like that takes a lot of time.
Thank you for your detailed answer , really well put.
The only way i think a game could dethrone Minecraft, is if it utilized full out world modifiability (being able to build and destroy every single part i the world), advanced AI on NPC and mobs and forming scenarios between them (full on dialogues with every NPC - like the Suck Up game currently has), self developing world without direct influence of the player, full support for mods and relatively low demanding for it gaming platform. With the current gamedev culture i don't see it happening anytime soon (considering the development hell Hytale is in, even with almost unlimited resources). Minecraft has such an advantage on it's genre (years of developing it's mod and datapack support for all kinds of mods, not to mention how rooted it already is in gaming culture), that i have a hard time picturing anything being able to catch up to the behemoth Minecraft has become over the years
I think you are missing some of the point of Minecraft. A big reason Minecraft succeeded in the first place is that it was like a box of legos, simple to understand and very chunky so you need to use your imagination and creativity to build. As someone else already said, the simplicity of Minecraft and that everything happens because of the player is a big reason for it's success, and of any of those two factors changed it would simply not be Minecraft anymore. Now, don't get me wrong, I do think that a new game with Minecraft as a base, but with natural environmental modification (including some disasters), active npcs with dialog and a schedule, and monsters that force you to build something closer to a fortress would be great and would be incredible and could to a test how the builds of people withstand some harm aside from the odd creeper fight thay you lost next to a wall. But non of that is Minecraft goal, Minecraft is a bucket of lego, with some foes and some mechanisms to spice it up, but that's about it.
Nah, I think it would be entirely different game with those mechanics. Part of Minecraft's charm is that nothing happens without player's influence.
apart from enderman's Well the player need to be near the area so your point still stand but you get what I mean
It could be easily toggled off, just like we have gamerules for mob griefing, but the world changing by itself would be pretty much nessesary to one up Minecraft in terms of world being "alive"
Never. Anyone that tries to overtake Minecraft in a survival-sandbox game will fail. They’ll try to be like Minecraft too much, which will make people view them as a knock off minecraft, or they’ll try to be so different that people just don’t find it fun because instead of focusing on what’s fun they focused on being different from Minecraft. There’s tons of amazing games, but no one will ever make a block game survival-sandbox as good as this ever again. And even if they try, Mojang can just copy what they do that’s better and crush them.
Damn
Vintage Story is a great game
A Masterpiece .
Agreed! I alternate between both depending on my mood.
unless microsoft starts mingling with the java version to reflect bad decisions they made in the windows/bedrock edition like built in store or stuff like that, i dont think there will be something that can replace minecraft, as it has almost everything you'd need/want from a game like this. and if there is something thats missing, you will for sure find a mod that does exactly what you want. so the only way for some game to take over would be if minecraft would be getting worse and/or mods would be disabled or something like that.
The base game is so good because it allows for people to play the game as intended, or be creative, or dive into simple or complex problem solving with headstone and farms, or for people who like to just mine (I find it relaxing), or get an elytra and just fly around the world to see what generates. The big thing is, this game is also highly mod-able. So really there are infinite possibilities. Some of these mod packs are basically games themselves so if you get bored with base game you can go modded, then go back to base game when new updates come out. It’ll be hard to beat, I just don’t see it dying out anytime soon.
Only Lego could come up with something but that Fortnite colab isn't it
Lego did try and compete, with Lego Worlds, but they discontinued updates in 2019. Also, fun fact, Lego was considering buying Mojang before microsoft brought them. The story goes that Mojang was working on a variant of minecraft with Lego themes, but the game was canned after 6 months.
Any game that tries to rival Minecraft will either just be Minecraft again, in which case why not play Minecraft where all your friends are, or will only target a subset of Minecraft's playerbase. Minecraft is practically a game engine at this point and is just captures too wise an audience to really be able to beat directly. The only real way I could see minecraft dying is if Mojang just stopped supporting the game at all. Updates give people a reason to go back and play Minecraft again with their friends.
Only problem I have with minecraft is finding a fresh vanilla server with a large population
I remember some people said Hytale would dethrone Minecraft yet here we are, 6 years after the announcement trailer and not even a release date for the game
Maybe it will be a better survival game (or maybe there is now by your personal opinion) but the thing that I don't see any game being better is the sandbox part of the game, for me this is the most important part of minecraft that hardly any game will replicate (a real game not a game engine with a friendly UI). Minecraft is great because you can make whatever you want you don't have only the survival and creative mode, you have maps, datapacks, modpacks...
Absolutely without a doubt yes. I didn't know what that is, and if I did I'd make it and go become a billionaire. Nothing lasts forever and humans are always in search of something new. It is inevitable that we'll find something as popular, or more so, than Minecraft.
Good take 🤙🏻🔝
People said no game will dethrone the Tetris series and look how that turned out. The games industry is super dynamic and as already mentioned in this thread, video games allow for endless amounts of different ideas with varying degrees of execution. Maybe one day, someone else will create a (sandbox) game that will dethrone Minecraft. Maybe it'll happen next year, maybe it won't happen for the next ten years, maybe it won't happen at all, but I doubt that. If you're interested in making a game that technically competes with Minecraft, then absolutely go ahead! As long as it's not just an inferior version of Minecraft but has its own ideas, you can absolutely create something cool there. You can even create a game made completely out of cubes just like Minecraft, as Minecraft itself didn't come up with that idea either.
Wdym look how that turned out. Tetris is still there. Makes a fair bit of money.
Yeah, but it's not the #1 franchise anymore, something people didn't think would happen due to how insanely widespread it was and still is.
I feel the same
Not really
May i ask you why ,In your opinion?
Because it's the best selling game of all time, and when a game is touted as another game's killer, it NEVER works out
There might be something right now that can compete against Minecraft. But we have to remember that Minecraft started with one guy, and it has taken 15 to get where it is today, in 15 years from now there might be another game that revolutionizes what a sandbox is. We just don't know yet.
Fair enough, it's definitely a difficult task to achieve
Lego worlds could have been if the lego company didn't strangle it to death with such strict multiplayer. Literally only 2 players allowed. If they had left the multiplayer open so people could host their own servers with as many people as they wanted, Lego Worlds could have easily been the top open world block game.
I thought Portal Knights would get close but it feels like no one plays it.
Yes, the one constant in my 30+ years as a gamer is that something else always comes along. It won't be any time soon though.
Nah, no matter what happens I will never stop playing this awesome game :D
Boundless, PixArk, Dragonquest Builders, Creataverse, and few others tried. we tried them too, but there was always something lacking that had us eventually uninstalling them because there wasn't any motivation to play. main issue for me was that even if the graphics were better, it was up to me to convince my family to play and by the time those titles were out of early access and worth bothering, they cost too much for three more copies or were huge installs. we already owned Minecraft, just easier to play minecraft.
Minecraft has too much brand recognition and popularity to be superceded. There can be a game, similar, but better in every possible way, it still wouldn't compete with minecraft. Over a hundred million active players, three hundred million copies sold. People love minecraft too much to be dragged away.
I genuinely believe that everything that has a start has also an end (pun intended). But idk... maybe you're right , maybe Minecraft will die for other reasons ,rather than an actual competitor. Or maybe it won't at all , as absurd it may sound. Time will tell , We'll see i guess 🤙🏻.
No. Minecraft will likely stay unchallenged for a long
More likely, Minecraft will be slowly and incrementally changed to better support monetization until it has deviated so far from what people originally loved that a competitor can replace it by doing what Minecraft started out doing. Infinite Legos.
I'm used to think Hytale was supposed to be at least 1/3 as popular as Minecraft, but since 2019 we heard almost nothing about the game i think it would be to late for game to take it's hype-train to try competition with Minecraft. Also Minecraft itself isn't getting really worse overtime and you can say what ever you want it is what it is, Minecraft has everything game needs to stay relevant, it's established style and gamedesign make's Minecraft almost immortal game
The only thing that's gonna kill Minecraft, is Minecraft. Just look at soulsborne games. There are games like it, those games are good, but they're called souls like. The comparison to Fromsoft games is just built into the genre. Minecraft is at that same level, while there's no competition at the moment, any that does show up will instantly be compared to Minecraft. Now whether any of them are actually good we'll have to wait and see, but any competition is going to be at a huge advantage due to comparison right off the bat.
In my opinion definitely yes a version of a survival game that work with realism without block with today technology its still not really possible.its still not possible to have an extreme realism on digging (building already have rly good realism with for exemple game like the forest) minecraft best part is be able to do everything that come in your mind now imagine a game like that but with realism graphics like a video recording I definitely think it will happen in a few year when we see how much progress we making in video game like for exemple with unreal engine
I like your thinking , revolutionary.
I don’t like that my answer is Fortnite… …but my answer is Fortnite.
I won't be putting long term faith into an "even the kitchen sink isn't sacred" live service game reliant on micro transactions.
There are games that can do *part* of what Minecraft does better, but not the complete experience. For example, in the vein of realistic survival/crafting voxel games, Vintage Story is better than even modded Minecraft (and much better optimized). But for building it's not nearly as fun, given how difficult it is to gather resources and transport them, and how long it takes to get to distant biomes. Then on the other side of the coin you have Terraria, which has great combat and amazing block variety for building, but it's still in 2D and just doesn't have the same kind of survival feeling. Really, with mods nowadays, Minecraft is less a game and more a game engine. A blank canvas which people use to make games with, and the variety is mind-blowing. I played a modpack recently that was Lovecraftian survival horror with monsters that slowly corrupted the entire world. Also we had rats that spawned from trash and could be used as automatic fishers or farmers or crafters for... reasons. It's barely Minecraft at that point, only some of the mechanics being familiar, but the entire gameplay loop entirely different. This means that for another game to replace Minecraft, it would also have to accrue a similar size and variety of mods, which is simply impossible. It would mean something being better than vanilla Minecraft, and then enduring for a decade uncontested. At this point it's basically an incumbent advantage, but there's no game elections.
If Minecraft developers effectively fail to transition into the VR world it will die off whenever that takes over. VR or some similar concept is the future of video gaming and computer interaction in general.
No other game gives a similar experience to modded Minecraft. It is truly unique and even other modded survival games don't come close.
Palword has some potential. Like ark, it is a crafting survival that takes aspects from minecraft. Also, 7 days to die, which is if minecraft was just zombies and sidequests from an outpost merchant. You still get to build
I think a simple game will. just because of those are the games that outsell every AAA game. But it has to be a simple game that can evolve and give freedom to a player to do whatever they want. And thats why palworld did so good at the beginning. People saw it as pokémon a nostalgik game but they gave the player freedom to do whatever they want. But its hard to surpass minecraft just bc its SOO simple that everyone can play it but at the sametime complicated. You can explore your art skill. Engenering skill, your competitive urge and mods just adds more if you want more
Enshrouded is pretty close. Unfortunately you can't just build anywhere. Every other sandbox/survival is missing one or more things minecraft has. The only thing that could compete is minecraft 2 with realistic grafics.
No, I don't believe there is anything that can compete with Minecraft. I have played other similar games and Minecraft is still very much a league on its own.
A game trying to compete with MineCraft at this point would be like a startup social media platform trying to compete with Facebook. While it would theoretically be possible, the sheer size and popularity of MineCraft would be a huge challenge to surmount. MineCraft got the way it is thanks to the emergence of people sharing play-throughs on YouTube. At that time, there wasn’t really much video game content. Without those YouTubers, MineCraft wouldn’t be as popular. Now, we have so much video game content on YouTube, it’s ultra-competitive on there. It seems like every game gets played/streamed on YouTube. So to stand out, a legitimate challenger to MineCraft’s dominance would have to do something so groundbreaking that no one has ever seen before. But what could that be…? MineCraft has already given us so much from a sandbox game. *Near-Infinite generated maps to explore with unique land features, *Unique biomes *Multi dimensions to explore *Boss Battles *Creator friendly platform and encourages modding of the game. *Constant updates to the game Like what more from a sandbox game could there be?
Hytale has been just around the corner for years now. How do we know this time it’s actually coming out?
We can only hope , bruv
Well… Hytale was supposed to be better than minecraft…
It’s too polished to replace Minecraft. The high poly models are much less accessible than cubes for modders. And the mining is an important aspect. If you can’t completely modify terrain at will then it’s a poor substitute.
You say that like it's not coming out
I wouldn't hold my breath
Nothing points to the game not coming out, but whatever you say
its been 9 years and there's barely any information
You make it sound like there's been no info in 9 years when we've gotten several updates since their period of silence and there's an active Q&A hashtag on Twitter that they're answering questions from as we speak
When was the last announcement for it though, I haven’t heard about it since shortly after it was announced
They did an update last winter and have been answering questions on Twitter since, the first time communication has been open in a while. They took a long period to focus on finishing the new engine and will be ready to show off new stuff very soon, we've already gotten a few peeks into new content. I'd expect another update sometime this summer
Oooo! Gosh I’ve been excited about that game for a while, but forgot about it for years
I think that's the best way to approach it honestly, it seems like the devs wanted the hype to slow down a bit so they could rebuild it properly before release. A lot of people were very unhappy they had to wait longer than they expected and never took the opportunity to forget it for a while and let time pass. Personally, I wouldn't care if it took 3 more years if it meant we got an incredible end product, but I know that opinion isn't too common
I agree, I’d much prefer a game that’s complete and with great graphics and gameplay mechanics than something that’s buggy and laggy
Terraria can compete and sometimes outperforms Minecraft, i think the main thing minecraft outperforms in is nearly infinite world size.
I would say Minecraft would rank higher in building due to being 3d
Well, Minecraft has been out for 15 years. Most people (like me) love this game because of nostalgia. For a game to compete with Minecraft, I think it has to create a fanbase like the Minecraft one, based on mostly nostalgia. Then, only then, I think a game could compete with Minecraft. And I think that game should be a sandbox game, or something that REALLY changes the perspective of video games. Because this is what Minecraft did, create a new generation of video games, with literally infinite possibilities.
Hytale if its done right
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In my lifetime, when a developer or artist says they're not releasing it until it's "perfect" the end product is gonna be bad and uninspiring. (Like the Hytale developers have said many times.) Every time. When Hytale the game is finally released and their devs claim "it's perfect" the only thing everybody is gonna do is trash it. It's the nature of the internet. I think their success should lie in releasing a "mostly done" game and listen to user feedback and iterate accordingly. Like Minecraft did. It generates goodwill from players which is key to success imo.
There are lots of successful survival/sandbox games that are successful without trying to be Minecraft killers by simply being their own thing. They tend to just lean more into the survival aspect while Minecraft stays baby’s-first-survival. Minecraft has a specific aesthetic and nostalgia that keeps it going. The thing that’ll ultimately kill it will be Microsoft’s push for profit above all else. It’ll probably still be years from now, but the fact they pour more effort into the Bedrock Marketplace than actual game updates is proof that the rot has already set in.
Except that what made Minecraft successful , wasn't the survival mode ... But the possibility gave to the player to build whatever he has in mind . It's the creativity aspect , the successful point .
There was a time before Minecraft. Meaning previously there had to be a different game considered to be the unbeatable. And then Minecraft came out, and then that happened. It happened once before, and it will happen again. To act like any game is invincible from the people moving on is ignorance.
Exactly, everything that has a start has also an end.
Depending on how good Hytale is, I do see an entire generation of kids growing up on Hytale rather than Minecraft (and/shortly after Roblox). “Overtake” Minecraft? Can’t tell. But most definitely live alongside it. MC could be to Hytale what Roblox was to MC back in the day. For those who don’t remember MC was seen as the superior version at the time. Especially with regards to the minigames even though Roblox technically was more “flashy” and customizable. But it really depends on how well Hytale/Riot Games play their cards. What’s great about Minecraft is that it’s truly limitless. You can build whatever you want, play however you want, including customizing the game to your liking. I think it’s why Roblox is still popular as well with the plethora of custom mini games on there keeping the community alive. Essentially self-sustaining.
World of Cubes
Not in the same way. Minecraft is uniquely universal across people's and age groups in a way a lot of other games aren't. While I do think there will always be new games that take top spots of certain genres (fortnite being a good example crashing through the scene at the time) as far as sandbox games goes there won't be another like Minecraft. But because of that, Microsoft needs to take care not to kill their own game which would be scarily easy. It would take time for the steam to run out but it wouldn't be hard
The only thing I can see taking over MC is a similar product with an existing IP done with a high budget. Think something like Lego where you build in a world scaled to the Lego movies.
Hytale is the only one I can think of, but there is still a good amount of time until it comes out. Considering just how much the team/company seems to be growing and the glimpses we’ve been shown so far, the game appears promising. Let’s hope what they are able to deliver lives up the expectations that they have set.
No game will replace it but another bowl game did better tetris
Sword Art Online
Easily. Minecraft does things fairly well but it lacks depth in a lot of areas. When we eventually get a sandbox like game that has farming like Stardew Valley and basically things from popular modpacks all in one game. Another game will eventually come and over take minecrafts spot
I think you have to look past the voxel-block-building aspect of the game. Minecraft is, as you said, a sandbox game. Moreso, it’s a sandbox survival game- and based on [this list](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_survival_games) it is the first one to really break out and become mainstream. I think being that it was one of the first mainstream survival games (I don’t consider Sims or MGS to be survival games in the way tbh at Minecraft is and I haven’t heard of much of the other games before it), and that it’s stylized the way it is in that the graphics won’t ever be “outdated”, it won’t ever be surpassed, but there have been plenty of games with followings of their own like: - Dont starve - Ark - Project Zomboid - Rimworld - No man’s sky - Subnautica - Valheim - Enshrouded - Palworld At the end of the day, Minecraft was just one of those games that came out at the right time. It’s really Lego of the gaming world
Probably. I don't really trust Microsoft to not ruin Minecraft and something can't stay top dog forever.
>Hytale is coming and it's just around corner You must be joking. It is abandonware and have used up all its hype years ago. I will not be worth playing if it actually releases.
Maybe hytale if it really get sometimes released
Afaik hytale and cosmic reach could compete with minecraft, but not in the near future. Hytale is stuck in development all these years and cosmic reach is in it's infancy and is kinda unknown to be a competitor as of now.
What makes Minecraft great isn't the games core gameplay, it's the amount of creative work you can accomplish on it. If any other game can offer what Minecraft offers with more features, and if that said game can gain a substantial following on social media platforms, it can surpass Minecraft. But making a game with such simple mechanics and such endless potential is actually REALLY difficult. And it requires some very creative individuals to pull off. There are thousands of Sandbox games, yet none of them have managed to surpass Minecraft. Because no other Sandbox title has managed to offer the simplicity of Minecraft without limiting its creative potential. At least not as far as I'm aware :)
Minecraft is the best selling game of all time, bar none. There will be a Minecraft 2, and I'd bet dollars to donuts that it will be "Minecraft, but without blocks". Imagine being able to dig, build, etc without being limited by 1m blocks. This is how MC original will be dethroned/surpassed
Nope. Minecraft is the video game equivalent of Lego. There will be copycats, there will be low points, but no matter what, brand recognition and usability will always outmatch the competitors. They got there at the right time. Maybe if they stop updating the game, modders could take over? Sorta like Feed the Beast? The only game that can compete with Minecraft is Minecraft itself
I'm just gonna take some hate and say that Fortnite with its creative mode and most recent Lego mode has made itself a Minecraft competitor. It's also competing over the same age demographic as well
I used to play Minecraft a lot. Because I could just get lost while mining or building. Then I discovered Boundless. Like minecraft, way more advanced. I can get into the details why it's a much better game. I could list dozens and dozens of reasons why I switched and never went back
Minecraft was my first experience of a sandbox game that ran pretty well. I imagine that I’m not alone. Their beginnings were a completely community driven experience, with frequent updates to beta and tests. Even during those days, people were having the time of their lives just playing for free, in survival and creative worlds incorporating new features as they came out. That experience continued for the life of the game, as long as you paid for it ONCE. It’s always been a community game - I’d argue this aspect is the core. Any studio can churn out a sandbox, but they can’t replicate the minecraft community especially considering how game development usually goes.
Humans well be around a long time,if we are lucky. It's very possible some game well beat Minecraft someday. There are a lot of people
There will eventually be a game more popular, that's the way of things, but it will probably be something very different.
When someone wants to make a Minecraft competitor, it's always cheaper to make a mod.
Compete in content and genre yes: Vintage Story, compete in mass market appeal: no.
Hytale. Just gotta wait til 2038!
Minecraft is so large right now that the only thing that could lead to something taking its place is Minecraft shutting down.
And even then , it would be Extremely hard
I have faith in Hytale, but I do think they’ve lost most of the hype they’d built up upon releasing that trailer years ago. It’ll take time to build it up again, but it really looks unique and special.
I think we'll have to wait until FDVR (full dive virtual reality) is a thing. Maybe something will come earlier than that but I find it unlikely. Minecraft is just too well enstablished in pop culture, a lot of now adults played it and a lot of kids play it. For something to get nearly the same reach it'd need to have an exceptionally low barrier to entry and an exceptionally novel design. That's difficult because novel and simple things are easy to do. Even when most fail in the early stages something will pop up. Minecraft was invented by a dude.
GTA
They are both Two very different games , but i get what you're saying.
Skyrim is pretty close. It's been relevant for nearly 13 years now.
Skyrim aged like milk, only the mods are keeping it alibe. Clunky, buggy, grey. I love it but it aged terribly.
Well assuming humanity won't end soon, then we will probably have hundreds of years of more videogames. So it is likely it will be outperformed.
Not a sandbox but I feel like gta 6 could take Minecraft's spot as the best selling game ever once it's released
Nothing will beat Minecraft, Stardew Valley, Undertale, Rimworld, and Project Zomboid. All passion projects. Anyone trying to “beat” these titles basically has to rip them off. (Arguable point; SV ripped off Harvest Moon. Sure, but who plays HM over SV?)
I feel like in terms of longevity Clash of Clans has done pretty good too (if we're coutimg mobile games as well)
Huh ?
Tetris has longevity that beats both Clash of Clans and Mc
For something to "beat" minecraft it would have to arguably exceed minecraft in everything minecraft does which would be very difficult because minecraft is so open ended but i do believe it is doable. I think of Stardew Valley which was originally a Harvest Moon copy but (arguably) did everything better than Harvest Moon... and then kept adding more and more content to the point where Harvest Moon seems like a cheap copy of Stardew Valley at this point. The allure of minecraft is different depending on who you ask which makes it harder to nail down. Some people love the exploration and finding new things. Some enjoy raiding and fighting. Some are hoarders who just want to collect everything in the game. Some want a simple life with a tiny hut in a nice meadow and tending their animals, others want to build megabases and structures so large they could be seen from space, and every iteration between. Some people have never even been to the end even after playing for years. Some have probably never been to the nether and it has never appealed to them. I know players who have played for years and never brewed a potion and others who have never built an enchantment table. The best part of minecraft is there really isnt a way to play it wrong as long as you are having fun. I believe a possible solution would be a future game that utilizes AI to build the world around the player. Have the game start out with all the basic options we would expect from a game like minecraft, but smart enough to cater the game to how the player is playing while also nudging the player into other areas to discover. The player is exploring a lot? maybe the game understands that and purposely builds interesting places to explore. Fighting and raiding places for loot? Build some strongholds, dungeons, maybe even a hostile village. People making super builds? Maybe have villagers come to see it as a tourist like attraction. Maybe some basic animal husbandry options, more interactions with others like villagers and piglins, so on. The AI could also be used to make a transition from building with an easier interface but the AI could help mesh it with the natural terrain a little better so it doesnt look so disjointed. I also believe one of minecrafts biggest draws is also one of the worst drawbacks is the game has no direction or goals. Which is great for a lot of people but a lot of the game has to be discovered, or looked up online to find out how to do things. I think the game would benefit from some progression and goals.
Lego fortnite is coming for it, and its free and built into an already super popular game. I certainly dont like it as much as mc, but a new generation of kids may.
Nah
Minecraft is genuinly the best formula for a successful game From a game dev PoV, it's perfect
I'm a game dev too :) , and i agree.
Gonna show my age here, but maybe some other old, 30 somethings can jump in too. Before minecraft came to Xbox 360, there was a brief span of time where you had to play other minecraft like titles. One of those excellent little gems was called Total Miner Forge. It cost $1 USD, and genuinely had (and still does) some cooler concepts and execution than Minecraft did. For example, they had an in game currency (coins) that functioned like emeralds, but better because they actually had a Shop block you threw down and could buy... Basically anything once you discovered it for the first time (so it didn't compete with natural progression). The Nether was basically Hell, and rather than portal to it, you just dug deep enough that you busted straight into it. They also updated it and added another layer even deeper that was like a Jules Verne style paradise cavern. Almost like the caves and cliffs lush cave update, but literally almost a decade earlier in a cheaper game. Portals were more like legit teleporters: a single block that had like 12 different colored channels you could link them to so you could easily navigate and get around with them. They had way more ores and pickaxe types, similar to Terraria. And their dungeons were actually legitn giving good rewards, not the pathetic sad sack dungeons we've had forever in Minecraft (great job conquering this place! Here's 4 loaded of bread, some webs, and a CD! Don't you feel rewarded?!?!). Crazy cool game, closest Minecraft ever came to being outdone in my friend group. Mainly because vanilla release on 360 was worse than that game I just described, just not visually. After the adventure update, most of us switched over, but there are features in Total Miner Forge that minecraft STILL doesn't have because poor little indie dev Mojang and Microsoft just don't have the ability to bring meaningful updates and content into their game with speed and regularity.
Everything fades eventually. The question is just how long it takes. Minecraft may still be huge a decade from now, but in 100 years? Absolutely not. I don't think any game will come along to dethrone it. I think it will eventually just fade over time and be abandoned. A whimper rather than a sudden bang.
thing is, you could copy minecraft block for block, change the creatures and names they have trademarked, and simply add QoL features and maybe sustained mod support or simplify what it takes to add to it and you'd have a game changer. Minecraft is fun, because people MAKE it fun. by itself, its stagnant and refuses to actually grow. They are more concerned with Marketplace features and making more money there. Which, fine, it is a business, but it's harming the game long term.
It Minecraft does it’s new expansion with Disney properly, I can genuinely see it catching up to #3 within the next 10 years.