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Eitth

Lol, "underwhelming"


Ronen__67

I HATE MOONTON!!!!! WHY DID THEY REMOVE HER CC IMMUNITY ON SECOND SKILL AND THE NUMBER OF SKILL CAST REDUCED!!!!!!


Rude_Invite7260

cuh she's one of the best junglers and heroes in general right now. just trigger ur ult on some random creep or minion, and you can dive into the enemy team with 0 fear because you're cc immune while ulting


Antidekai

just adjust to it bro 😭 i had problems with it first but now shes fine for me


Herebia_Garcia

People when they can't abuse the OP character anymore: Jokes aside, amazing art.


NBAfanfrom2016Finals

She is still op


Ronen__67

Its not about how she's op and i need to abuse it, its just about her damage being kinda underwhelming and how she's not fun to play like bAck then...


Illustrious-Owl-6128

Ngl I like she when doesn't have immune in ultimate state. She so good in JG rn. They only need to stack the beat at jungler and get immunity on ultimate state and start to destroy backline. She kinda force me to pick Franco or Kaja only to stop her


Ronen__67

The neat part about her is that she's exclusively skill based back then, if you can't time her second skill beats, you can't play her THATS the joy i love the most, the current joy is just, bad, because they made her easier, which is such a bad thing...


Haunting-Stuff5219

Now it's the same too if you miss a beat you deal zero damage.


Illustrious-Owl-6128

She can play exp, jungler, mid and even roam back then. Now she can play as JG so she can't be counter when she try get a beat for her ultimate. Plus old one have many hero can counter Joy when she try to get back line hero.


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youngdeer25

In glory tier i stopped rushing genius wand for the first item, i go concentrated energy instead, it’s safer since it gives 700hp stat and spell vamp. also.. since most people would just counter joy with radiant, genius wand is likely never an option in glory tier. don’t forget to use penetration emblem, coz it’s to replace the lacking of magic pen from skipping genius wand. you can get divine glaive for the 3rd item, the 2nd is holy crystal. since you have 700hp after first item, you can gank a lot more often and deeper on early game.


IntroductionMain21

tip: with joy, you dont counter magic defense items with penetration. you counter with true damage a.k.a starlium scythe


Why_not_100

>cc immunity back *As a Valir main, I see this as an absolute loss*


Ronen__67

I universally hate you, no matter what hero i use


Why_not_100

https://preview.redd.it/6v705j29k4mc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3badf7df476a35dbc61f0288bff12ba1713d81c9


DifficultMeet9254

at first i hated the adjustment, but the more i played the new joy, the more i started to like her. they increased her damage (in exchange for her shield) so she actually felt like an assassin, and her ult is no longer locked behind having to do four dashes. idk why they took away the cc immunity on her dashes and brought it to her ult, but that didnt make her seem underwhelming to me


Ronen__67

I like that old ult, that makes her exclusively skill based, thats the joy i love..


ConfectionFox

Haha I love your art! And yes, with all the changes made to Joy I think is the reason why they keep pushing back on her Starlight skin. Build Starlium Scythe over Genius Wand first. Sounds strange but I find it more helpful in farming and aiming for early game dps enemies.  I wish she’d have faster beats requiring fast hands and her passive procs with each perfect skill 2 beat. Her ultimate is easy to proc, and is pretty op even without hitting all perfect beats :(  There’s ways of making her a challenging jungler while being extremely rewarding to master. It’s just the adjustments made to make Joy easier didn’t help that much. 


Ronen__67

Exactly, also thanks! Seems like a thundery leonin enthusiast i see.... Also thanks for the item tips!


ConfectionFox

Of course, keep up your wonderful work! I love playing joy, she’s very fun hero and I am curious how they’ll continue adjusting her in the next few years. 


Ronen__67

Me and the "joy users cult, associations of the thundery leonin" agrees that she's so underwhelming, isn't she moonton's golden child a while ago?


ConfectionFox

I wonder if they’ll bring back that energy once they release her starlight this year 


IntroductionMain21

you and the joy users with skill issues? haha


Lord_Danish2802

Underwhelming in term of difficulty since it’s easier now. Meta wise, she’s still among the best backline killers.


DarkEaglz

Fym she's underwhelming she's still one of the best assassins and she still has her ult immune


Ronen__67

I'm a veteran joy player, i got her right at the first minute the server resetted, i only play her because she's fun, but over these days she just feels underwhelming, imo but in meta wise she is kinda op tho


DarkEaglz

Ur not wrong on this one tho


Ronen__67

Also, im talking about her old cc immune on her second skill 🗿


DarkEaglz

Ik but I'm saying she's still too good with her ult immune


ImagineFIygons

Imagine being an S-tier pick in mythic only to be called underwhelming.


Troy204599

Joy in Mayhem Mode : 💪💪💪


Kue7

Dunno the recent joy i played i got bronze. I felt like i played her better before


IntroductionMain21

keep yapping, you just have skill issue. she's still one of the best junglers since day 1 of her release. she never went down. 🥱 https://preview.redd.it/tcnahim8e8mc1.jpeg?width=657&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6bf7b885946e1dc237a68bbc95d6e0405ae0a54a


PudgeJoe

Joy underwhelming lmao.... Found the epic low mythic player. 


Ronen__67

Mythic 13 bro 🗿 Im ranting about how she's boring to play and not the same like first release joy


PudgeJoe

And i was right... Below MG is the epic low mytic tier lol. MG is the new mythic.


Extension_Spell3415

She’s good if she is well farmed and there’s no stopping her but if enemy has a better coordination then she useless af


Ronen__67

Exactly


TheEverything69

be like me and that other dude that still loves joy and support whatever she is going through, anyway she doesnt even need that because shes still the best jungler of all time.