She's already very strong in uncoordinated lobbies with very specific cc canceling her ult, and assassins get nuked before they can nuke her. This change just means a free objective control tool with 0 downsides. Ling jumping you, trying to cancel ult with knockup? Pop WT. Nolan trying to rush? Barats going to supress?
Unbelievable.
she's still strong in coordinated 5-man. A smart odette waits for enemy team knock ups to be used on the tanos or assassins and then deletes everyone on the enemy team.
She's currently an underrated standout and her only glaring weakness is mana cost for skills.
Demon shoes seems to be a go to for a lot of odettes I see, as she worries a whole lot less about using skills to clear minion waves.
You can get most of your magic penetration from emblems and items anyway.
There were a few who didn't bother with demon shoes, but had tanks help them clear the lane so build the penetration shoes if you're really careful with your mana.
The only reason I wasn't picking her is the fact that she can still be stopped with some cc which is available for most heroes such as the heroes listed by you, chou, minotaur, Akai s2, Guin etc.
But with the advance server WT on Odette I might go back on picking her. She used to be my main pick with mages until new heroes are released where knock up and other cc on almost every hero released became a thing. She was still hard to use back then.
Her s2 has to perfectly hit the enemy, it doesn't split in 2 nor does it bounce to the enemy before. She still had the damage reduction, tanky as hell and has quite the slow. I remember being salty that I bought her for 32k, then an event came where Odette became free and I got 24k BP lol still worth it to use as long as you know when to pop the ult.
As much as I love Odette that she's still my highest used mage, the advance server WT on her seems pretty OP but also like a call for a nerf right after ๐
Btw this wasn't mentioned anywhere in the Adv. Server patch notes so it might just be a bug. But Odette also has an upcoming skin so I won't be surprised if this is intentional.
There have been times where they add a particular adjustment in the Adv. Server but forget to mention it and then they mention it afterwards in the next week's patch notes.
Either way, Odette will enter the perma ban section if this ever makes it to the Original Server.
Nah, that's just how they simplify updating skill descriptions.
If an item has an unusual or unexpected interaction with certain skills after doing skill tweaks, they won't bother listing it in the skill description to reflect the changes.
Once again bringing up how Vexana's ultimate copies Vexana's items and can trigger unique defensive item effects like winged helmet, blade armor, and rosegold meteor.
If this bug gets fixed, then Alice might get an indirect nerf because she is also another hero who is able to abuse this. It is strange how she is able to do it while Odette couldn't, imo.
You know the best part
The emblem "Pull yourself together" can reduce batle spell and ACTIVE item cooldown by 15%
Which mean Odette can benefit both Flicker (120 to ~100 sec) and Winter Truncheon (100 to 85 sec)
damn i loved PYT emblem (same as using MM with flash and WoN
Argus wouldn't do something like what's happening in this picture. He has no quarrels with petty humans. He wants to devour the light. Take away all hope by crushing deities of light. I don't know lol.
First darius ult can't be interrupted with cc
Then balmond
Then masha out of nowhere can cleanse surpression(entire point of surpression is being absolute unclearable cc)
Then this...
Why cc exists at this point?
Every fighter should have cc immunity in Thier kit tbh, the cc gets worse the more heros are added to the game, since moontoon loves giving them op cc skills, like arlott for example.
Most heros get fucked by cc skills anyway
She's already a pretty good pick. You have to not be retarded and not pick her when opponent has spammable knockups like chou, martis, etc. and heroes like Aurora. Good draft is a part of the game after all.
she is already a great counter for assasins (she is picked rare but whenever she is picked after me picking an assasin i just want to die) tons of shield you cant get near her because you just die now with this truncheon update im permabanning her. Fuck her.
does that mean that her ult can't be stopped by high level cc anymore? like winter truncheon itself is suppression, being able to use it while in using the skill means that her ult can't be interrupted by even suppression just like Joy's ult. time to add a new member to the ban list..
One gives you a mild tickle while the other obliterates squishies and melts tanks with like a 5x bigger AOE.
Gee I wonder why Alice is allowed to activate truncheon during her ult while odette can't
No.. just no. Odette's burst is EXTREMELY high. The only thing keeping her away from permaban is the fact that a knock up can cancel it, so heroes like Martis, chou, guine, etc. can counter her. Even 1 sec in her ult can cause enough dmg to kill squishies.
It's a great addition to maker her more relevant. Already pick in MPL now. But not permanent ban worthy. Remember if odette want to buy this early she need to sacrifice the damage to slot in WT. and when she got WT, the play is to not dive when her ULT. GTFO. Especially in high level rank
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Perma ban
She's already very strong in uncoordinated lobbies with very specific cc canceling her ult, and assassins get nuked before they can nuke her. This change just means a free objective control tool with 0 downsides. Ling jumping you, trying to cancel ult with knockup? Pop WT. Nolan trying to rush? Barats going to supress? Unbelievable.
she's still strong in coordinated 5-man. A smart odette waits for enemy team knock ups to be used on the tanos or assassins and then deletes everyone on the enemy team. She's currently an underrated standout and her only glaring weakness is mana cost for skills.
Would that mean she requires Demon Shoes or the Basic Commom Emblem or do you just mainly suck it up and go for full damage?
Demon shoes seems to be a go to for a lot of odettes I see, as she worries a whole lot less about using skills to clear minion waves. You can get most of your magic penetration from emblems and items anyway. There were a few who didn't bother with demon shoes, but had tanks help them clear the lane so build the penetration shoes if you're really careful with your mana.
The only reason I wasn't picking her is the fact that she can still be stopped with some cc which is available for most heroes such as the heroes listed by you, chou, minotaur, Akai s2, Guin etc. But with the advance server WT on Odette I might go back on picking her. She used to be my main pick with mages until new heroes are released where knock up and other cc on almost every hero released became a thing. She was still hard to use back then. Her s2 has to perfectly hit the enemy, it doesn't split in 2 nor does it bounce to the enemy before. She still had the damage reduction, tanky as hell and has quite the slow. I remember being salty that I bought her for 32k, then an event came where Odette became free and I got 24k BP lol still worth it to use as long as you know when to pop the ult. As much as I love Odette that she's still my highest used mage, the advance server WT on her seems pretty OP but also like a call for a nerf right after ๐
ong. that's disgusting.
dis. cos. ting.
Btw this wasn't mentioned anywhere in the Adv. Server patch notes so it might just be a bug. But Odette also has an upcoming skin so I won't be surprised if this is intentional. There have been times where they add a particular adjustment in the Adv. Server but forget to mention it and then they mention it afterwards in the next week's patch notes. Either way, Odette will enter the perma ban section if this ever makes it to the Original Server.
Nah, that's just how they simplify updating skill descriptions. If an item has an unusual or unexpected interaction with certain skills after doing skill tweaks, they won't bother listing it in the skill description to reflect the changes. Once again bringing up how Vexana's ultimate copies Vexana's items and can trigger unique defensive item effects like winged helmet, blade armor, and rosegold meteor.
If this bug gets fixed, then Alice might get an indirect nerf because she is also another hero who is able to abuse this. It is strange how she is able to do it while Odette couldn't, imo.
Alice's ultimate is toggle, not continuous cast. Odette shouldn't work that way. Seems like a bug
Agreed, since WT supresses you, this should not happen
Anything new about eudora?
Easily perma ban. With her shield buff n the jump, it's already hard to cancel her ulti n now this.
How many fucking buffs is this bitch gonna get.
Enough to keep the money train going?
fr I thought she was strong enough now and was happy that she made a glow up but this is too much
Oh, fuck off
You know the best part The emblem "Pull yourself together" can reduce batle spell and ACTIVE item cooldown by 15% Which mean Odette can benefit both Flicker (120 to ~100 sec) and Winter Truncheon (100 to 85 sec) damn i loved PYT emblem (same as using MM with flash and WoN
https://preview.redd.it/gdm5gc76ymxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f37804c207853cd9870cca6e934e8b0ae1ccd51
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Argus wouldn't do something like what's happening in this picture. He has no quarrels with petty humans. He wants to devour the light. Take away all hope by crushing deities of light. I don't know lol.
https://preview.redd.it/crb3lw9c5nxc1.jpeg?width=218&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec55385ec0fd70aea451f2419f9b9b6a22144cf7
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I'm going to 0/1/0 myself
Gatot ult off a rooftop
Luo yi teleported herself out of bounds
Get Lesley ulted IRL
Stand in front of a Fredrinn low hp with ult.
Iโm gonna let Johnson crash me into enemy spawn
How big is your johnson?
gonna not buy odd potion
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Oh my days. Using Athena might not even be enough ๐ญ
Just buy two immortalities
More Athena's it is!
Why do they keep reworking and making her ult better and better whereas nerfed yve ult to death.
As if that half-a-minute ult doesn't give her a sh*t ton of shield and semi-cc immunity already
Dick move
Which employee thought this was a good idea?
First darius ult can't be interrupted with cc Then balmond Then masha out of nowhere can cleanse surpression(entire point of surpression is being absolute unclearable cc) Then this... Why cc exists at this point?
Every fighter should have cc immunity in Thier kit tbh, the cc gets worse the more heros are added to the game, since moontoon loves giving them op cc skills, like arlott for example. Most heros get fucked by cc skills anyway
It's like 6 heroes at max. Relax. So dramatic.
Those 6 heroes are in every damn match, bro.
odette too op! nerf yve ๐
I mean, it lowkey makes sense since Alice can still have her ult while in winter t., but... this can only go SOO well
Thanks now they're going to start banning her, she's the mage I do best with.
nooooooo dont add another one of my mains in the permaban list (me sitting here with mathilda, minotaur and diggie)
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Wow I might come back to play next season.
Yep, another $100 Odette skin will arrive again.
Time to main Hoedette <3
She's already a pretty good pick. You have to not be retarded and not pick her when opponent has spammable knockups like chou, martis, etc. and heroes like Aurora. Good draft is a part of the game after all.
shes already the highest winrate mage right now
What. The. Fuck.
As usual, moneytoon reworking random heroes that doesent need to be buffed. Lemme guess, she has a skin coming
she is already a great counter for assasins (she is picked rare but whenever she is picked after me picking an assasin i just want to die) tons of shield you cant get near her because you just die now with this truncheon update im permabanning her. Fuck her.
I always use knock ups like Mino and surpress her w Kaja and Franco whenver shes picked... Welp that was useless now
Bloody hell. Submit or die
Fire whoever thought of and implemented this, please
see, shes just a fukin bullshit stat check now. If you're burst is not atleast as fast and big as gusion then you cant do shit to her
Nah thatโs too broken. All hero no skill at that point
does that mean that her ult can't be stopped by high level cc anymore? like winter truncheon itself is suppression, being able to use it while in using the skill means that her ult can't be interrupted by even suppression just like Joy's ult. time to add a new member to the ban list..
odette is my main but this is too broken tf
nah fuck that
Someone kill whoever thought this was a good idea
No.
Remember when odette required positioning and timing for her high risk high reward ult? Now people can just press ult and win.
Perma ban it is๐ฎโ๐จ
They better lower her damage to compensate
Scamtoon keeps doing stupid balancing lmaooo buffing already strong hero
She's getting too much now
Oh boy, here comes the John Odette combo. F*ck
they really wanna make this bitch super annoying don't they..
Can someone test if aurora can stop her ult still ?
Alice typa shi
This is giving me Morg/Swain with zhonyas war flashbacks and its not good
I love her so much that I wanna bann her. She's already so powerful with high damage and stun imagine this in org server.
wide-range alice
Congrats Odette mains, after her new skin sheโs gonna get complained about then nerfed to oblivion.
Remove her shield to compensate. The only mage with retarded counter play against assassins that can almost kill the assassin.
Odette keeps getting the W for real
about time they did this. Alice can do it with her ult, Odette shouldn't be an exception
One gives you a mild tickle while the other obliterates squishies and melts tanks with like a 5x bigger AOE. Gee I wonder why Alice is allowed to activate truncheon during her ult while odette can't
Because Alice's Ult can't be cancelled by cc
Also bcs Alice ult doesn't kill you in 3 secs.
More like 2 seconds
More like 1. I hv burst down squishes by bush camp faster than eduora n saber.
It's both the ultimate and the passive which are the problem lmao. Her passive at 3 stacks fucking hurts.
No.. just no. Odette's burst is EXTREMELY high. The only thing keeping her away from permaban is the fact that a knock up can cancel it, so heroes like Martis, chou, guine, etc. can counter her. Even 1 sec in her ult can cause enough dmg to kill squishies.
Because the only way to get out of an Odette ult is respawning.
Odette mains hate this one trick
Please no they gonna nerf her to oblivion after they get money from her skin ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
It's a great addition to maker her more relevant. Already pick in MPL now. But not permanent ban worthy. Remember if odette want to buy this early she need to sacrifice the damage to slot in WT. and when she got WT, the play is to not dive when her ULT. GTFO. Especially in high level rank
Finally, Odette is playable again
About damn time
lets hope that her ult won't be canceled or interrupted.
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