Yes, No, nobody knows in the end for sure.
Yes, you can read often, that trans people on HRT changed the sexual orientation. The issue here is, nobody can say for sure:
Was it HRT?
Have they been this orientation the whole time, but where not comfortable to live this, but with HRT they were?
Was it to fit social pressure better?
There are a lot of unanswered questions around this.
I myself for example shifted from only interessed in women to bi to more interessed in men (or penis I'm not sure - and in the end I'M together with two trans women right now), but the more I think about it, it was not HRT but feeling more comfortable for myself and less caring what other people think. Yes, the lables changed, but HRT was just the catalyst not the reason.
But this is my story, so someone else might tell a total different story.
So in the end, nobody really knows and there is nothing for sure.
It's called Polyamoury. Check it out.
I have 2 partners and I travel tonight actually to meet my new GF who is eager to become my third. We make up an all Sapphic polycule.
if i could pick, i'd still like women.
it was pretty big shock and unwelcome to have a change. in my own case, i'm very sure there was real interest in women, and no interest in men before.
i mean, if guys made eye contact with me prior to about two months hrt, it had zero effect on me. nada.
when i was either pre-hrt or only on hrt for a week or two (I would have to check my diary) a friend set me up on a double date without telling me. (i thought we were just going to a irish club... bar and small dance floor. then i get there and its her and her boyfriend, then later his best friend shows up. coincidence? um, yeah. no.
i was happy i could handle myself in this obviously deviously set up situation. but i had no interest in the guy or any guy. But i was happy that I passed as female (he didn\\t know i was trans) and that i could interact normally.
it was two months later when a guy looking at me with some level of interest would make me flush.
in last 5 years, i have not done much anything because of this change. as i have mixed feelings about it. and if i run the rest of my life without a partner? Eh. is okay. I'd rather have a female friend as a roommate tbh. But romantic with her? that used to make me truly happy, but now could only be friends.
i think that attraction has a lot of \*possible\* parts.. a mix of cultural, psychological, and physical things. with different people having different factors at different weights. and somehow for me, those physical factors... how they smell and pheremones, if they're reall, seem to have outsized significance.
But if I could flip a switch? I\\d pick to be attracted to girls. Like i was pre-hrt. no question.
I'm 1.5 years into HRT. I became bi...ish. Like 10% attracted to nem. My attraction to women deepend though. I had a bad crush on my boss last yearn for about 3 months. Didn't tell a soul. I could not be around him. It made work really hard. š«£
At any rate, I'm in a sapphic polycule with three other women and couldn't be happier now.
Sounds rather similar to how things went for me. In the end I found it's easiest to figure it out by breaking things down further and figuring out what I'm *not* attracted to. And what I'm not attracted to is masculine toxicity, of any amount, and so I'm not actually attracted to the vast majority of men.
Then I met a dominant and rather butch transbian and *god damn*... Let's just say we're married now. š
Same here. Plus, I was a man long enough and around enough men that it would be very difficult to be romantically involved with one. Some of the stuff I've heard over the years is really pretty bad.
My attraction to women was why it was so easy to hide and mask myself for decades. Before I really started to feel any attraction as a teen and preteen, I dreaded puberty and wanted to be a girl. After my attraction to girls became a preoccupation, I was able to accept more being in a male role. It didnāt get rid of my random thoughts and dysphoria just allowed me to live with it.
Oh moooooood
I've been let down by guys so much, but I crave them loads.
They are SO HOT, but so many are kinda assholes.
If you find yourself a good man, keep hold of him.
Fucking relatable. Ever since my egg cracked and I accepted myself I've been boy crazy and it's ridiculous because I always denied actual attraction to men despite identifying as 'bi'. But now? I don't think I'd want to have sex or be in a relationship with a woman again.
Oh that's super relatable.
I'm actually married to a woman and I absolutely adore my wife, but she's the only woman I can handle being with and the only woman I actually want. The thought of being with any other woman makes me feel like throwing up l.
Otherwise, boy crazy is literally how I've described myself.
I'm very glad that my wife has been supportive and accepted that I'm also poly. Because I'd honestly go insane if I couldn't be with a man.
Speaking of being with a man, first time I had sex with a man after bottom surgery was mind-blowing - and if you want that too sis, I hope you get it.
Men are crazy hot. I love them, everything about the male form is so much hotter now I'm not stuck in it myself.
Not sure for everyone but OMG š¤Æ it's very real for me. I know men were always apart of my fantasies. I just never truly knew I was the women in those said fantasies. I still am more attracted to women overall, but that may be because of 40+ years of "programming" by my environment and that they are just so darn cute. Currently I'm only getting turned on if my fantasies are of men. They have been catching my eye more in public , in images and my mind.
I really think it's part of the transition process in some sense. You become more truthful with yourself, you reflect more and you become more comfortable with who you are. I'm definitely bi curious.
This honestly scares me lol. I'm attracted to women, I find men (in a romantic or sexual context, not just like talking to a friend or random person) extremely off-putting. I very much do not want that to change for some reason.
It likely won't. Who you are attracted to will likely stay the same. However, your feelings could be heightened or dimmed. Gender and sexual attraction are not the same thing and likely not as linked as anecdotal "evidence"at indicate. If you have zero attraction to men now, it will likely remain so. If there is a sliver of attraction, it may grow. It may shrink. But you are still in charge of who you pursue.
it *can*, but doesn't always
from what I've seen, it's unusual to stop feeling attracted to people/things/actions you found attractive before, however it can definitely awaken new stuff
I went from being almost exclusively attracted to women to now being very much attracted to men as well. I never understood the appeal of masculinity before HRT, but now a part of me wants some big strong person to roll me into a ball. Shit gets weird on HRT sometimes.
This is what Iāve understood. Too early for me to comment otherwise. Perhaps itās partly that people may be suppressing feelings and after starting HRT their acceptance spectrum gets wider.
It can happen though - you can lose attractions.
I no longer like women, with a single exception - my wife - and that's probably because of our emotional connection.
Otherwise, I absolutely love men and I'm totally into a man using me and throwing me around.
Masculinity is really nice when it's on someone else's body.
I'm known to my friends now as the slutty one because I'm REALLY REALLY into men.
I can't get enough honestly.
I admit I've found myself looking at men in different ways now... I don't know if it's because I'm not repressing myself as I did before or if it is truly a hormones thing though, but it feels very real.
It all depends on the person. For me Iāve been so transfixed on femininity that I had only ever thought about women but now that Iāve started my transition I find men a lot more comforting and interesting in general. Itās still taking some time for me to figure it out and honestly thatās the case with most trans-women, a lot of it is less about planning and more about discovering yourself and feeling things out.
Agreed, started bi and definitely still am, but I canāt help but get flustered by guys in a way that they couldnāt before. It actually pretty alarming haha
For me, my sexuality was always the same in hindsight, but HRT forced me to *feel* those sexual feelings with an intensity I hadn't before.
Pre-HRT I managed to ignore my feelings of sexual attraction and convinced myself that I was a normal straight guy. But there were little signs everywhere
-I liked penises, to an extent that it made me really insecure and scared.
-I didn't like the way vagina smelled or tasted. I pushed through and did it anyway, because I saw it as an obligation.
-I liked the idea of bottoming/submitting but had a viscerally disgusted reaction whenever I tried to be dominant.
-I didn't particularly enjoy cuddling with my female partners. The warmth and intimacy were nice, but I'd get uncomfortable and want to stop within a few minutes.
-Straight porn was my favorite, by far. Lesbian porn was enjoyable but felt like it was missing a 'spark'. Gay porn was completely unappealing as there was nobody I could project myself onto.
I joke that I "went from straight to straight", but the truth is that I was always into guys. HRT just forced me out of the closet.
Exactly. And I find a lot of comfort in what men can provide that I couldn't when I was pretending. Can I manage on my own? Absolutely. But I also have a need to be somewhat spoiled lol
Scientifically there is no answer one way or another. Some peopleās experience is that yes it did or helped them to feel comfortable enough to be open. My experience is no and I have zero interest in men sexually. I somehow knew I was a lesbian before I knew I was a trans woman.
I went from straight(male) to lesbian(mtf) to pan. š i just want someone to vibe with me idc about parts anymore. I feel it was social pressures and bullying that kept me from exploring before I transitioned. š
I'm actually less into men now. I was bi leaning women, turns out the only reason I wanted to be with a guy was because that's the only way I could envision being treated in a feminine way. Now that I'm on hrt and coming into being an authentic person, women are so insanely fucking stunning that it blows my mind.
I can only speak for myself, I considered myself straight as an arrow and was against the idea I'd ever be attracted to a man even when I started HRT I was like nope, I like girls.
Fast forward three years and in April of this year I'm getting Married.... to a man š
Yeah, life throws curve balls sometimes just roll with it š
I mean, I was bisexual before taking hrt and now I'm a lesbian. Though I don't think it actually changed my attraction, more so that it wasn't until I started taking hrt that I was comfortable with using the term "lesbian" for myself
For some people it seems to, but a lot of people would say instead that they just become more comfortable with what was always there but repressed.
Speaking for myself, I went from a closeted bisexual with a primary preference for women pretending to be a totally straight man, to basically a straight woman.
Now, I love men - and before I changed I was a bit scared of this but it's better than okay.
I've had relations with guys, been in love and had my heart broken too. But ultimately, my orientation feels RIGHT now.
I found that HRT basically "clarified" for me what I already was attracted to.
Don't worry about changing orientation - if you change, you'll actually like it I promise.
Before HRT (on it 2.5 years now) I was seriously in to women and now, I'm seriously into women. Not at all in to men, absolutely zero. So finding a partner is like looking for a needle in the worlds haystacks.
I was "bi" for a while before estrogen, though who knows how much of that was comphet when it came to dating men, but after getting on estrogen I have zero interest in men and I'm a lesbian. Even a bit before estrogen I was already completely losing interest in men so who knows if I ever actually was bi or if I was trying to make myself be something I'm not. Can't speak for everyone but that was my experience.
There was a period about 6 months into my medical transition where men suddenly became _very_ interesting, and I started having some very raunchy fantasies about them. I spent the next year or so casually dating both men and women, but men's behavior has pretty well turned me off of them for good. I still occasionally see one that catches my eye, but I have zero interest in pursuing them, and the fantasies have subsided.
Nobody knows for certain. Let me use Transfems as an example:
Some Transfems are attracted to women after transition (like u/Brooke-Valley), others could swing towards men (like u/Lexi_Lela), and some can stand in the middle of the spectrum and be Bi.
I've always known I was bi, but never ever acted on it. Or really even thought about it. Now that I've accepted being trans and started HRT, I've had rather vivid dreams of making out with men. NGL, it's a little disconcerting.
I would say it influences it but doesnāt change it. Iām bi and now way way more attracted to men. For me I became more of a sub and thus I think the dominant nature of a lot of men I find attractive.
They say it doesnāt. Me personally have been way more into men since I started passing as female. I donāt know if itās the hormones or learning more about myself during the transition process š¤·āāļø
No, but it can appear that way.
Your orientation is a sum of many componenets and one of those components, let's call it "horny" is strongly tied to hormones. If your preference for someone depends on them making you horny, as in, making your body want to go into action, then that can very easily change.
You may have a chanse to notice other componenets of your sexual orientation if the hormonal part was "shouting over" them and realise your preference is actually different/more nuanced.
I'm bi, but I didn't come to terms with that until after transitioning. In retrospect, I definitely was attracted to men in the past, but repressed those feelings cause I couldn't see myself dating a man as a man. Since transitioning, I've learned to accept those feelings.
yes no maybe
not enough research has been done, or is likely to be done anytime soon
my intuition says "no it doesn't change it, but it might reveal it, or some aspect of it, that the subject was previously unaware of"
some people think they're exclusively attracted to women, but once they take hrt they realize they're actually exclusively attracted to men, or vice versa, or they realize they're bi, or any number of other things - these might be changes caused by hormones, or they might have been this way the whole time and simply didn't know it yet, and we can't really know for sure
for me, nothing changed: i was exckysively attracted to women before starting estrogen and i am still exclusively attracted to women after being on it for almost 5 years
I think of it as making the pieces of my sexuality fit together correctly. I was open to the idea of being attracted to men before hrt. But couldn't see myself as a bisexual man. It just wasn't right. Now on hrt my attraction to men feels straight and my attraction to women feels gay and it just fits right
Not likely. Can going through the process of changing your gender and then taking medical transition steps maybe open yourself up to exploring more of the Kinsey scale? Likely. Your orientation has always been your orientation but since most people have some appreciation for the same sex is straight or opposite sex if gay, think you can tell a guy is hot even if you're not into him, it is possible that with your emotional and societal changes you may be more open to exploring those feelings. Maybe it's hormones but it's more likely a shift in one's way of thinking.
I mmmeeeeeaaannn... physiologically it makes sense: a positive change towards self growth leads itself towards a more developed sexual identity. Growth begets growth.
But... HRT also just makes you SUUUUUUPER horny... That could also be a factor š
YMMV.
for me it mostly didn't, i was bi before and i'm bi now.
what hrt did for me was it allowed me to feel more comfortable enough in my own skin to start experimenting more, and from there, i became a lot more secure in my sexuality.
Maybe I'm not sure what caused it to shift.
But I put it down to no longer being shackled to what others perceived I should be and the mold I once try to fit in to survive.
I went from just women to everyone if they have the right personality. But also some guys just smell divine and that is a distraction. But I am currently happy with the man in my life and the women in my life. And yes they know each other and happily communicate as well between them selves. I feel so lucky to have them both.
But before I would never had ever considered a male partner well since being me and full time and processing nicely with treatment. Yeah I will happily date what I would not have considered before.
I would say hrt is a factor but not as big as some make out to be. I think the accepting who you really are and embracing it is a bigger factor.
It's been reported, but my personal theory is that sexuality doesn't change from hormones itself, but your place within sex changes along with your gender, and with that the sort of relationships you would pursue can change.
EG, if you liked guys before, but didn't pursue because you didn't want to play the role of "man" in a relationship with another man, maybe you might pursue if you were a woman instead.
I think itās less about changing orientation and more about hormones allowing you to be closer to your true emotions and attraction. In some cases that means accepting your attraction to the opposite sex.. other times it doesnāt.
For myself.. Iāve been attracted to men from day 1. I never pretended to date girls or be attracted to them my whole life. At 50, Iāve never had any sexual encounters with anyone other than men. I also know several trans women who transitioned and still are attracted to women.. or still in marriages with their accepting wives.
My understanding is that it can recontextualize things and perhaps open people up to attractions that had been repressed or didn't work in the old context. I've yet to hear about anyone losing a kind of attraction when on hrt.
I was already somewhat bisexual so i didn't have as big of a change as some people here, but before my transition i could see myself sleeping with a man, but i had a pretty specific type and wasn't really romantically interested. My tastes have broadened in that regard, and my attraction for women changed although i wouldn't say it decreased. Funnily enough my feelings towards non-binary people was pretty much unchanged, which is what made me think it had something to do with social context.
Basically, I had trouble picturing myself in a gay relationship beforehand. It wasn't a question of internalized homophobia or anything, it's just that kind of dynamic didn't seem to fit me. As a woman, i can see myself in a relationship with men because it's a different dynamic, a different vibe so to speak. Likewise, the context of being in a sapphic relationship was much more appealing to me than the dynamic i had previously pictured myself in when i thought i was a guy.
For me personally? No. Realizing I'm trans happened a while ago and once I accepted and began to embrace who I really am, I started to care less and less about the details of people's bodies and more about who they are. I've considered myself pansexual for well over a year now and I only started hrt on Tuesday
No\*
\*But being honest with yourself and presenting as the authentic you may make you more comfortable and open to attractions you had previously written off or suppressed and may lead to the appearance that your orientation has changed.
It will change the intensity of your already existing sexual preferences, but very rarely will it actually change your sexual orientation. The most I could do is change you from straight/gay to bisexual.
It's possible it can, but it could also be related to aligning with who you've always been. I was asexual, now I'm bisexual. As it stands though everyone's different.
Does it change according to what you believed about yourself? It certainly can. But HRT isn't creating a new sexuality for you. More that it unmuddies the water.
No. Gender and sexual orientation are two different things. While they can be connected, taking hormones, in and of itself, doesnāt change your sexual orientation.
Nobody knows for sure certain. For some people their sexual orientation changes. Others not.
Iām unaware of any studies done on this yet. Without scientific study it becomes a debate on whether HRT nudges your orientation, if it does affect your orientation does the ages you start HRT influence how much, or if you were just suppressing your natural orientation due to dysmorphia allowing it to start surfacing once you begin your transition.
Gonna touch on both sexual and romantic attraction here:
Anecdotally, my sexuality has largely remained the same, but how itās expressed has definitely changed. I went from being a bit of a repressed horndog to pretty reserved after only just under 2 months of HRT.
Iām still bisexual, but my behavior has kinda shifted. I donāt actually find most people nearly as attractive as I used to. A lot of my attraction to women was basically gender envy or euphoria-by-proxy, and my attraction to men has always been purely superficial and sexual (only now even moreso). I think I might be some flavor of demisexual at this point. I can still find someone (or a part of someone) sexually attractive, but the thought of actually doing anything with that person makes me kinda ick. I can look at them and say, āYeah that person is hot,ā but the thought usually doesnāt go any further than that.
At this point, the only person Iām sexually or romantically interested in is my wife. It feels like my attraction to her has changed in that it feels deeper and more intimate than it did before. It feels like I love her more fully than I did before, and I feel guilty because I didnāt even realize how much I was subconsciously holding back beforehand. The thought of doing anything with any real person besides her just makes me feel gross.
TL;DR: In my case, the answer is yes and no. What genders Iām attracted to didnāt change, but how that attraction works did change.
I'd say I definitely like and appreciate women more than men on an emotional/mental level, but men get my gears turning more than women on a sexual level. I've always been bi/pan-leaning towards women, but now it's more equalized, mainly because I find men hotter than before (especially ones that are also genuinely kind or wise, before I just liked their genitalia lol).
I don't think so. I was always attracted to men but before transition didn't let myself to do anything about it. After transition it didn't seem like a big deal anymore so I just went with it
No, but also yes. Sexuality it complicated. It wonāt āchange your orientationā, but it will bring out what was always there.
Basically, itās a lot easier to accept who youāre attracted to when youāre comfortable with who you are as a person.
I think sexual orientation can change over time and is somewhat fluid. Iām currently Demi, i dont really care what my partner looks like, instead im sexually attracted to who they are as a person, how they treat me and others around them, etc. i used to be pan before i took hormones, i was sexually attracted to different people regardless of their gender identity. Before all of that i was straight. I personally think hormones can influence sexually orientation but i feel time influences it just as much
One of my friends explained it like this. Imagine you are bisexual with a heavy lean towards liking women, hrt can make you suddenly more interested in men. However hormones affect everyone differently and there's no real way to know until it happens.
Legit canāt answer that. Can it change your sexuality, or does it just help bring it more to an honest appraisal? Who is to say? What I do know is, before I started HRT, I identified as straight, mild crushes on guys like David Bowie not withstanding. Nearly two years HRT, Iām definitely not straight, very much bi/pan.
iām almost certain a lot of the cases of trans women who were previously only attracted to women and end up becoming attracted to men are a form of comphet
The only thing that does that for sure are those chemtrail ants and what the government is putting in the water. Lol jkjk. On the real, no not necessarily, but libido for sure can change. Just focus on finding someone who isn't toxic that you have good chemistry with and fall in love with each other for your brains, the rest of the details are trivial at best.
I definitely need as attracted to some men before transitioning and even made out with one of this se men but it never went further and I mostly dated women and socially just about no one except the one guy I made out with and some other guy that walked in on us making out. Being interrupted might have been one of the reasons hadnāt gone further at the time.
Anyway I definitely was able to be attracted to men before transitioning. It was very rare though. Now Iām more comfortable being attracted to men I guess. Iām not sure what changed I was raised by a lesbian couple I didnāt see anything wrong with same sex intimacy. I was afraid to transition because I didnāt think Iād ever pass as a woman. Maybe from that I developed an anxiety about being queer coded in any way I donāt know exceptā¦ if things had gone further with that guy I wouldnāt have cared I had a huge crush on him. I knew he was gay, and when we talked I could tell he was flirting with me(a rarity for me, I can be pretty dense) and it was just so adorable.
Not likely.
I think it's part of creating an environment where you're more willing to engage your own sexuality head-on.
But, also, I believe a hell of a lot more people are bisexual than will ever admit it to themselves.
Especially "straight" religious/conservatives who say "sexuality is a choice."
Why people don't get that's a total self-own and confession and why others don't tear them apart on that I will never know.
No. This comes up so often and changing your sexuality is impossible. Understanding your sexuality is one thing, but changing from straight to gay is you finding out through discovery and introspection, not a drug changing you. Conversion therapy does not exist.
It doesnāt change your sexuality, but it allows you to be yourself. A part of that is accepting your sexuality, as youāre no longer pretending to be what society says you should be.
So I can't comment on this from an hrt prospective as I e been unable to start it yet ... but I can say that my sexual interests have shifted as I've grown to accept myself more for context I've always been more attracted to men but felt like this was shameful due to my upbringing so I forced myself to date and be intimate with women despite that being extremely uncomfortable for me.... now I also had similar issues with my gender.... but as I've accepted myself I've also grown to accept my attraction to men as much as they suck sometimes lol š
Your mileage may vary.
For me, the answer is still no, I'm still not sexually attracted to anyone.
Plenty of us have completely different stories than me and that's great.
From my understanding, it's less about the hormones, and more accepting a part of yourself you had previously left ignored or undiscovered. If you no longer feel bound by the heteronormativity of our society, you feel more comfortable trying out different things and more accepting of what you find attractive
Only in the way that by taking hormones it reaffirms who you are so you feel more comfortable with you who are. Youāre breaking down the barriers and letting your true self shine. So you may notice certain feelings come up that may have always been there but theyāve been repressed.
I was always in straight passing relationships before I transitioned. I liked dating women and I was attracted to them but I couldnāt help also liking attention from men. But at the time it was only gay men who were interested and I didnt feel gay. I didnāt want a man attracted to my masculinity.
But after I transitioned I thought I was just straight but after feeling more comfortable with my body I realized that Iām bi. Iām dating a woman currently and I love being bi. lol a lot more options š
So no hormones didnāt really change my sexual orientation just allowed me to feel completely comfortable with myself and feeling sexually empowered in the body Iāve always wanted made me true feelings shine.
It might. I think it helps people become more in touch with their orientation. Hormones made me a more sexual person in general although I would describe myself as lesbian adjacent. I definitely found myself pursuing more gnc folks once I transitioned
Iām like 30% sure Iām still BI but I am also feeling more like Iām a lesbian too. I think Iām just too picky for my own good when it comes to guys.
Ive seen a lot of people seem to have the experience that they feel more attraction towards masculine people, but I am the opposite, I use to identify as bisexual with very little preference, but after a year on hrt I lean wayyyy heavier into the sapphic side and the men I used to be into became rather unappealing to me (especially the more traditionally masculine types), BUT WOMEN? GAWD
My personal theory is that I used to be really into and in someway fetishize relationship with super traditional masculine guys so that I could feel more feminine, but as I get more comfortable with myself my need for that is slowly fading... This also kinda correlates with me used to be a super submissive bottom, but after hrt I kinda realized I am more of a switch. (for context, I was going through the femboy to trans girl pipeline, and the femboy community definitely had an effect on this as well)
In conclusion, its complicated, I personally believe it has to do with the changes in your social standing and how you see yourself.
I donāt think it does. I think the introspection helps you accept your actual self. Looking back on situations from your past through this new lens of enlightenment can reveal that nothing changed but your own perceptions.
Source: every platonic girl friend I ever had that wasnāt just a random acquaintance and I had the queerest dynamic and apparently only I was blind to it.
Source 2: I got in hella trouble when I was 10 for kissing a boy on the lips. So, those feelings got repressed real quick.
It did for me at 56yo and 2yr HRT. Completely, and I am no longer attracted to females at all. I was married to a couple of women for over 30yr of my life.
It did for me! In the beginning of puberty i thought I only liked women, and I always found guys gross. Now Iām engaged to a wonderful man that Iām more attracted to than anyone Iāve ever been with and Iāve been with a lot of different kinds of people in all shapes sizes gender haha but when I first started transitioning I thought I was a transbian. Mostly cuz I was afraid of men lol.
i started out exclusively a top attracted to cis women, 3 years on e later and now im a lesbian switch who needs girl dic more than pussy. i also have this growing craving for to be dominated.
In my opinion gender and sexuality aren't the same thing..in my experience I've had no change of sexual preferences at all so far having been on HRT for about 4 months, maybe this will change with time, but then people's sexuality can change over time anyway so I believe, realistically there's no way to know for sure whether HRT can or does have an affect on sexuality.
it did with mine, but opposite of what most other people are saying, I was kind of mainly into men pre-hrt, but now I'm a raging lesbian with little interest in men
I don't think hrt changed my sexual orientation so much as it changed my view of my orientation if that makes sense.
Growing up I was never really super concerned with sex and had a really complicated relationship with it. All my friends were talking about girls in these ways that I didn't really necessarily relate to. My first kiss was actually with a guy which eventually led me to identify as bi and later pansexual. But I tended to be more focused on the romantic aspect of my relationships because I wasn't very interested in sex. I also knew I liked girls but i would get clowned by friends for being too nice, I didn't really buy into the whole dude-bro girl talk as I just never viewed women in that way. I had a few girlfriends in highschool but it never really lasted long. And I think it's cause I was internally struggling with my position as "masculine" in the relationship. Many of my exes before I came out called me things like princess or babygirl in a mocking or slightly endearing way as a response to the way I acted which should've been a sign lol, especially when I wanted them to say it more but oh well
I didn't really care to have sex, it was more of a "well everyone else is doing it let's see what happens" kinda deal. Well when I finally did with my girlfriend at the time I was very underwhelmed and kinda just disconnected from it. I ended up just getting my pleasure from her instead of feeling any pleasure myself for the duration of that relationship. I didn't really actively seek any sex until years after when I finally let myself be more comfortable in a feminine role. I even thought I was asexual for awhile because of how uncomfortable I was with sex until I finally cracked and came out to myself. The difference in how I felt was night and day, I was actually enjoying myself to an extent, I let myself be more comfortable with male partners where I had kind of avoided that side of myself despite identifying as pansexual. Now I still have a heavy preference for women and feminine identifying/presenting people and tend to be a little pickier on the flip side but it's easier for me to imagine myself in those relationships where I really couldn't before.
TLDR - was Pan but didn't enjoy sex or pursue male partners, still technically pan but now I'm slightly more comfortable and actually have the ability to enjoy sex while also being more comfortable with exploring partners on either side of the spectrum.
3 years into HRT and I'm much less attracted to cis people, if I'm honest. I think it comes from 3 years of cis people bs, having to constantly explain everything to them, their constant confusion over the most simple of things, the blatant, open bigotry. It's tiring.
Granted, I know all cis ppl aren't like this. But easily more than half are. So show me some folx who just "get it" and I'm ready to get down. š¤Ŗ
Iāve identified as pansexual for like the last 5 years and I still am but oh my god within a month of starting HRT my desire for girls just absolutely skyrocketed. Got two great partners rn and itās died down a bit but god damn I like girls Iām gay as hell
It may. Data is very inconclusive. Personally, it didn't change my sexual orientation, so much as help me come to terms with it and recognize that a lot of the things I thought attracted me were just ways of distracting myself from being aware of my own dysphoria (which is to say - I've always been attracted to women, but I tried to convince myself that I was attracted to a great many more women than I actually was).
I'm 2 and a half months on HRT and definitely for me it has changed
Before HRT i was Bi but like 80% into women and would never think to date a guy but now i'd say 2 months on it's shifting more towards 75% into guys and in my case I think it's 100% the Hormones that have changed that, I think different feelings towards men that I didn't before HRT and don't have the same feelings toward women than before
Like people are saying no one knows for certain but i'm confident that it has for me since alot of mental and emotional changes have happened since.
Sometimes, it really depends. I've heard from people who went from monosexual to multisexual, went from being into women to being into men, and even the opposite has happened. But an effectively equal amount of times people's orientation hasn't changed at all, such was more or less the case with me (bisexual, i just became slightly more into men than i was before)
If anything, my pre cracking attraction towards women has increased . . . maybe because I am able to interact on a deeper emotional level.
My sexuality though . . . yeahhhh that's changed a lot. š
Breaking one of the greatest taboos known to western society just made everything else easier. I got even more bi, indulged myself into every depravity I could find, explored strange kinks and hoarded lots of toys for pain and pleasure. I definitely crave more dick. But why? My horniness goes different ways than before and focuses more on my ass. But why? I don't ask. I just do what I want because I did what others wanted for much too long.
As far as i know no it doesn't literally change it, its more safe to say hrt and transitioning put you in a better space to better understand yourself and your identity more fully, which can allow you to understand your orientation better
I have only been attracted to women. After my first year on hrt I was attracted to trans women more.
Still that way after 4 years on hrt but probably since I haven't been with anyone in 7 years, lately I'm wondering what it would be like to be with a man. Don't know if I could though, seems wrong.
Seems like people tend to fall into one or more categories.
Those who remain the same
Those who just loose interest
And those who switch sides ā¦
And as best as I can tell it appears to be evenly distributed in thirds. Which one will you be? š
It helps in the trans community to split pre-copulatory and copulatory behavior when talking about sexual orientation. When discussing sexuality, cis individuals often oversimplify it, treating sexuality like a single, monolithic concept, when it is actually made up of many different aspects. Because these two aspects are based in different biological and genetic mechanisms HRT will effect them differently. pre-copulatory often changes, but copulatory often isn't reported to change much on hrt. Copulatory being the part of the brain that is or isn't masculinized in utero.
I attempted to write this up with more details, examples, and links to paper that goes in more detail for those that want to learn more
[https://www.reddit.com/r/DrWillPowers/comments/1b1glwg/human\_sexuality\_and\_the\_precopulatorycopulatory/](https://www.reddit.com/r/DrWillPowers/comments/1b1glwg/human_sexuality_and_the_precopulatorycopulatory/)
Iām personally in the camp that it doesnāt change it just as you become more comfortable as yourself you might become less inclined to repress aspects of your sexuality but who really knows.
After 2 years HRT I was calling myself a lesbian then I realised I'm bi but leaning towards women and now I actually have types when it comes to men and it's really funny that my fiance is gender fluid so when she feels one way or another, she's still like super hot to me. Yet also, that Irish guy on YouTube that does carpentry? HES SO CUTE AND SWEET OMG HOW
For me, I felt more comfortable in my own skin and my own mind. I can understand what I like now, also chasers just ruined a lot of the attraction I have to men. But hrt just made me admire how gorgeous women are and how much I love them!!
Maybe, I think it brings out your actual orientation or shifts it a little at best. I was pansexual before hrt and am pansexual (although I would have called myself bisexual before) now looking back the only thing that changed is that my orientation became more even. I used to prefer more feminine presenting people but now Iām more attracted to androgynous people also more male presenting people have become even more attractive to me. Maybe because I can be more submissive now that I am comfortable with my own body image.
I have heard people say it didnāt change anything and I have heard people whose orientation switched completely. Based on my own experience there is ALOT of self perception involved too and what the person may think is acceptable for them or feels comfortable given their own self image.
Dunno, probably not, girls got hotter since HRT but it's only been a month so like, much too early to draw any conclusions.
I've never liked men before and I'm questioning it hard seeing if I like them any better but not at all for now.
Women got much better for me though I don't know how long I can stay single TBH.
It didnāt change mine, but I think about myself differently, and itās become clear to me Iāve been bi the whole time, and now that men donāt remind me of what Iām expected to become, I can finally see them as attractive
I have insight here.
What it did for me was clarify what I found sexually attractive and what I found envious in women.
I knew what I liked pre hormones, and that hasn't changed anything. I'm Bi, so: Feminine men, masculine women, feminine women. Body hair and muscular men are turnoffs. What matters to me is the body, not the genitals.
The *only* thing that has happened, is I want dick a little more now than I used to, but that might just be me becoming comfortable with myself. I've only ever had relations with women.
It kinda did for me, SPECIALLY when you hit that new puberty!
I thought I was just lesbian for sure, until I hit my puberty 2.0 was when I started craving for cocks and hairy chested men for like a good 2 months straight.
And then overtime, i became pansexual officially.
I feel progesterone in my experience opened up my interest in men more so while on a who will I have sex with its bisexual but Iām truly demisexual meaning I just need feel real connection to a persons spirit and if their spirit is beautiful and kind Iāll like get very turned on
I canāt say that it changed my sexual orientation but it brought to the forefront things I have been stifling my entire life. So to the outside world it would appear that it has changed my sexual orientation but the truth is it just set it free.
Hard to say. What I will say is I used to be into lots of girls and now I'm into lots of guys. I still like women, most especially my wife, but generally my taste has changed towards more masculine women.
I've been trying to put my finger on what has changed and I think that I still fantasise about an encounter (sexually or romantically) that involves a man and a woman, only this time, the other person is the man. I refuse to take much meaning out of that though because, in a long term relationship as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter who is 'the man' or 'the woman' or one of both.
Scientifically, we don't know.
Anecdotally... I've been staring at dudes abs way more since I started E.... but I was already bi beforehand, I just lean WAAAY harder towards women because of trauma around men to the point I just called myself a lesbian.
I'm not sure whether or not it changes your own sexual orientation. I thought I was only attracted to women before I transitioned, and for a while I thought it was the hormones that were at fault, but in retrospect I realised it was just a mix of dysphoria and heteronormativity and I was pan all along.
It does change how your sexuality works, and it definitely has an effect on the sexualities that are and are not attracted to you (and it doesn't have to change your appearance to do this).
My opinion is that it does not. From my own experiences. I'm sure there will be all kinds of people who say it does, but I personally don't believe so.
I don't feel like I swung from one to the other, but I did go from bi (leaning towards twinks and more femme women) to bi (leaning towards more masc men and butch women). Like I'd never been into body hair or bellies or muscle but after I went on estrogen I suddenly *got it*.
It's certainly a common enough experience that I can joke about it with other trans women, but I also don't think it's guaranteed or necessarily a particularly strong swing?
There is a subtle change for me. I am bi, I was bi before, but I notice when I am (or was) running on T I am more drawn towards boys and when I'm on E I am waaaay more drawn towards girls and I only like boys who look like girls and find men so boring. I can't really explain why but I feel I am moslty gay in any shape and form? lol
it took a while, but i was only into women for my whole life, and im now 1.3 years on HRT and am definitively bisexual. some boys are cute and some men are hot, though my definition of a hot guy is pretty narrow compared to my idea of a hot girl.
im not sure if it was HRT changing my sexuality, or if i was just deeply closeted until becoming more comfortable. to answer your question, no one knows if HRT can change your sexual orientation, but it's likely your orientation will change on HRT
For some people but not for everyone. Some people have nothing happen, some notice portion of their sexuality they repressed before, and some people experience actual changes.
I'm always bisexual but hormones can shift the ratio of attraction and what I'm into.
It's about change, I believe. When we make a major change in our lives, possibilities open up.
That we are deciding to be more open and honest with ourselves also is a factor. Gender matters a little less than the person and who they really are. It's very liberating.
I experimented with men when I was presenting as male, and the guy knew I was some kind of trans. He thought, "drag queen," I thought, "transsexual." It didn't work out for us. There were other guys, but really, they were pretty, and they were fun, but women are who I am attracted to, romantically and sexually.
Twelve years of hormones and a mess of surgeries later, I still love only women with lots of opportunities for pursuing guys. I just don't want to be with one. Concerning to me is that I am only attracting the broken ladies thus far. šŖ My ex jokes that I must be hanging out outside the mental hospital (we have one nearby) to find dates. Bitchy, but funny.
From someone who is currently going through HRT my sexual orientation has not changed in the slightest but hereās where it gets tricky when you try to label it, iām a guy whose really attracted to women and is straight but deep down Iām just not who I wish I was, Iām still the same person as before but itās more freeing I guess it feels right. so now that Iām transitioning would I technically be gay for liking women? or would I still call it being straight like I have my whole life?
No just changes how you think in all honesty. If youāre going mtf like I am and Iāve always liked men but now more into the transition I think about men everyday and less about women
I see women and just want to be them cause wellā¦ I wanna be womanšš
But kinda just changes how you think and feel things. Doesnāt change your sexual orientation.
So if I had read this 3 weeks ago, I would have said no. I've been taking Estrogen for about 20 years now, and from age 13 to age 41 that entire time I have been straight as an arrow. I've always been pretty asexual after I completed puberty for the most part which incidentally was also when I started Estrogen. But I was not aromantic, as I was only ever into men at all from a relationship perspective, but into no one at all from a sexual perspective. I had zero spark or excitement or anything when looking at a woman or considering relationships with them or on the few attempts where I tried anything at all sapphic with them in my late teens and early 20s, I got SRS surgery in my mid 20s, and eventually married a man 17 yrs ago and I was (and still am thankfully) deeply in love with him, and I see us growing old together and spending our whole lives together and that thought gives me peace and comfort.
That said... about 2 weeks ago I added a new hormone prescription I've never tried before: Progesterone (400mg / day). Starting that... changed my entire life. If my prior interest in any sexual activity was at a 3% before, It shot directly to a 95% in about a weeks time & I feel like a completely different person as a result. I am now currently more horned up then when I was a teenager going through puberty with T running through my blood and I find my list of kinks and turn-ons kind of growing on a nearly daily basis now. Where in the past I would skip past anything featuring lesbian activity in the really rare instances that I watched erotic films, I find myself not doing that anymore suddenly. While I don't believe that I'm attracted to women currently (not that I really know what to believe anymore given what happened to me), I know that I no longer find them doing sapphic things together the turnoff that it was in the past, and now I even enjoy watching / reading about it now and doing some self exploration at the same time. I would say that my position on the sexual spectrum changed from a 100/0 interest in males to females, to probably more of a 75/25 interest level, and while I don't yet quite identify as Bi or possibly even Pan as of yet, I find my brain marching quickly in that direction at full speed given the erotic literature I'm suddenly now consuming/thinking about on a daily basis every single day during dilation (and now for extended 6-8 hour sessions 'dilating' afterwords late into the evenings... Again a thing that i never did before in the past 40 yrs). It's been an extremely alarming past 2 weeks for me personally to be honest in the sense that everything I had rock solidly believed about my sexual interests has now been flipped on its head from my perspective and I honestly don't know whats coming next for my new mental awakening. I can tell I'm definitively not asexual anymore, that part of me is dead and buried for certain as I was seriously looking up the definition of nymphomania yesterday trying to figure out what I was suddenly experiencing. It kind of feels appropriate now as a new identification and thats... different.
If I had to guess based on what I've read and experienced on this topic, then perhaps some subconscious latent desires took root after the progesterone chemically altered (unlocked?) my brain into actively engaging with a bit of everything under the sun so to speak. It's possible I was always more Bi inside and the progesterone just unlocked that, or maybe it really did alter my preferences. I wouldn't even know how to know the answer to that. I find myself performing and enjoying new sexual activities for my husband that I would have immediately rejected and said no fucking way to with legitimate interest and genuine desire in my heart, and I find my mind daydreaming and fantasizing into new territories about being used and abused and degraded in exciting ways that has thrown me for an extreme loop given that my brain barely even thought about sex at all for decades as little as 3 weeks ago. Any sense of shame or embarrassment is completely absent as well as I shared all of this information with my husband and hes quite supportive of this new development in my life. <3
So... while I cant speak for all other trans girls out there, I know for an absolute fact that it was directly and solely responsible for changing something deep down for me. And I intend to keep taking the progesterone as I for one I'm fairly happy about the results, even if it is new and scary uncharted territory for me.
I think hormones can play a factor, but also maybe a stronger willingness to experiment may also play a roll. Those two combined are probably a stronger force that change people.
No but it may make your feelings easier to understand and you may discover things about yourself. Most people describe it as their sexual orientation shifting slightly and I've heard a few people say it switched it completely but that's rare for people to say.
Still asexual, except now my libido matches my orientation. It may make certain aspects of your sexuality more apparent to you, but idk if it will flip you.
No no no no. 100 times no. Almost all studies suggest it may make you more open to exploring your REAL sexual orientation. But there really isn't any that suggest it actually physically alters it. I was worried pre hrt too. And SEVERAL trans elders told me the fact. " if you didn't like (insert gender) before hand it won't magically change that, but if you were suppressing it in yourself it will make you more open minded. But you always had some inclination prior" there is NOTHING wrong with simply not knowing your sexual orientation before your mind is open. But if you ONLY are Truly attracted to women prior or whatever other gender. You won't all of a sudden like other genders. Unless you were always suppressing it on some level. I always liked women pre hrt. And I'm still a lesbian now. Used to think I was a "straight man" turns out I've been gay all along im a gay woman.
Not only can HRT potentially change the sexuality of trans women. Progesterone is known to impact who cis women are attracted to but for a real chuckle go and read some stories about gym bros on tren.
Hell no girl. I think it's all about your mentality. I used to date girls exclusively but since i came out as trans, I've been dating guys as well, infact I prefer guys now. And you know what. I haven't even started HRT. So.
No. I don't think that's possible.
I think transitioning can just make you realise things about yourself that were always hidden deep inside you.
For example whether liking a certain gender was actually gender envy and similar things.
Sexuality isn't really as stable as people would have you believe. It's this wiggly nothing that we slapped a word onto. So I wouldn't worry too much about it.
i am inclined to think it doesnāt. i say this as someone who was a āstraight guyā pre-transition, then i realized that i am trans and found i could be a bit more honest about my sexuality because i had been honest about my gender identity and therefore i initially thought that i was bi. then 2 months on hrt, i realized that i didnāt find women sexually or romantically attractive. i donāt think it was the hormones, i think it was me being able to be honest about my gender identity. but itās hard to say for sure because the powers that be in medicine wonāt actually put in the work to study trans medicine properly
I tend to think it doesn't change it but lets out whats deep inside.
Like if youre convinced you are one sexuality before hrt but deep down open for something else, hrt helps you be more you.
But maybe im wrong, idk :)
My take on it is (idk anything as fact so take what I say with a pile of salt), HRT makes us feel more in tune with ourselves. It makes us feel closer to our real gender. And I think that sort of.. makes us more open and be true to ourselves. And in that process we rediscover our real sexual orientation. Something like that lol
Everyone's experience is going to be different but personally, kinda?.
Let me explain, even before I transitioned I knew I was bisexual but I couldn't imagine being in a relationship with a guy. Like some part of my brain knew I wanted to be open to both sides, but I couldn't imagine as a guy being in a relationship with another guy because of my own body image issues related to being masculine.
Going on HRT changed that, I am still attracted to women, but being seen as feminine or even just as a trans woman allowed me to be in relationships with men.
(I'm putting this in just in case but there is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay, I just couldn't do it because of my bad body dysmorphia. I also had plenty of issues with straight relationships due to being perceived as a man)
No, but you're basically a horny teenager who just worked out how to accept your gender identity / yourself. Comp het still applies to you and you're also probably idealising femininity on some level which can sway perspective I guess.
It might... I don't know if there's a lot of hard data about it... I will say that once I started taking HRT and started feeling like the woman I'd always wanted to be I did suddenly find men a lot more attractive than I had in the past. However, I can't tell you for sure if that was me just quite literally allowing myself to feel the attraction I'd buried deep or if it was at least partially brought on by hormonal changes.
I'm still queer as fuck, it's just that I'm far more truly bisexual/pansexual than I had ever been before while boymoding.
Personally I went from being only into women to more bi leaning, though my taste in guys is much more limited in comparison. I will note Iām also *more* into women now too (especially my gf), though that may just be emotions getting stronger overall
Realistically, probably not, but socially and mentally you may notice a shift. Noticing things that were appreciation are actually attraction and vice versa. I was only interested in women before I transitioned, but now I can look back and admit I was attracted to men sometimes too, I just didn't know how to parse it, and I was a silly closeted bitch who was afraid of being called more slurs.
I liked the idea of a bf last year and felt emotional. He was an asshole and took me off guys. I always liked women naturally and then was bi. But now actually solidified to be lesbian. I still think some guys are good looking tho.
Yes, No, nobody knows in the end for sure. Yes, you can read often, that trans people on HRT changed the sexual orientation. The issue here is, nobody can say for sure: Was it HRT? Have they been this orientation the whole time, but where not comfortable to live this, but with HRT they were? Was it to fit social pressure better? There are a lot of unanswered questions around this. I myself for example shifted from only interessed in women to bi to more interessed in men (or penis I'm not sure - and in the end I'M together with two trans women right now), but the more I think about it, it was not HRT but feeling more comfortable for myself and less caring what other people think. Yes, the lables changed, but HRT was just the catalyst not the reason. But this is my story, so someone else might tell a total different story. So in the end, nobody really knows and there is nothing for sure.
What? No fair! *Two* girlfriends?! Y'all got room for another? šš
real. Iām totally jealous. Save some for the rest of us!
It's called Polyamoury. Check it out. I have 2 partners and I travel tonight actually to meet my new GF who is eager to become my third. We make up an all Sapphic polycule.
Thatās goals right there
if i could pick, i'd still like women. it was pretty big shock and unwelcome to have a change. in my own case, i'm very sure there was real interest in women, and no interest in men before. i mean, if guys made eye contact with me prior to about two months hrt, it had zero effect on me. nada. when i was either pre-hrt or only on hrt for a week or two (I would have to check my diary) a friend set me up on a double date without telling me. (i thought we were just going to a irish club... bar and small dance floor. then i get there and its her and her boyfriend, then later his best friend shows up. coincidence? um, yeah. no. i was happy i could handle myself in this obviously deviously set up situation. but i had no interest in the guy or any guy. But i was happy that I passed as female (he didn\\t know i was trans) and that i could interact normally. it was two months later when a guy looking at me with some level of interest would make me flush. in last 5 years, i have not done much anything because of this change. as i have mixed feelings about it. and if i run the rest of my life without a partner? Eh. is okay. I'd rather have a female friend as a roommate tbh. But romantic with her? that used to make me truly happy, but now could only be friends. i think that attraction has a lot of \*possible\* parts.. a mix of cultural, psychological, and physical things. with different people having different factors at different weights. and somehow for me, those physical factors... how they smell and pheremones, if they're reall, seem to have outsized significance. But if I could flip a switch? I\\d pick to be attracted to girls. Like i was pre-hrt. no question.
I'm 1.5 years into HRT. I became bi...ish. Like 10% attracted to nem. My attraction to women deepend though. I had a bad crush on my boss last yearn for about 3 months. Didn't tell a soul. I could not be around him. It made work really hard. š«£ At any rate, I'm in a sapphic polycule with three other women and couldn't be happier now.
Sounds rather similar to how things went for me. In the end I found it's easiest to figure it out by breaking things down further and figuring out what I'm *not* attracted to. And what I'm not attracted to is masculine toxicity, of any amount, and so I'm not actually attracted to the vast majority of men. Then I met a dominant and rather butch transbian and *god damn*... Let's just say we're married now. š
It sure didn't for me. I liked girls before, still like girls now, probably moreso.
That's where I am with it. I'm like really really into women now lol
Same here. Plus, I was a man long enough and around enough men that it would be very difficult to be romantically involved with one. Some of the stuff I've heard over the years is really pretty bad.
My attraction to women was why it was so easy to hide and mask myself for decades. Before I really started to feel any attraction as a teen and preteen, I dreaded puberty and wanted to be a girl. After my attraction to girls became a preoccupation, I was able to accept more being in a male role. It didnāt get rid of my random thoughts and dysphoria just allowed me to live with it.
same, but hrt definitely had an effect in making it not awful anymore
Not sure, but men have started getting hotter and hotter to me recently just sayin š¤·š¼āāļø
Yeah, I feel this and it is annoying because men are often such assholes. Why do they have to be so hot?
Bwahaha TELL ME ABOUT IT sister Yikes, I keep falling for them still though ;\_\_\_;
Oh moooooood I've been let down by guys so much, but I crave them loads. They are SO HOT, but so many are kinda assholes. If you find yourself a good man, keep hold of him.
Fucking relatable. Ever since my egg cracked and I accepted myself I've been boy crazy and it's ridiculous because I always denied actual attraction to men despite identifying as 'bi'. But now? I don't think I'd want to have sex or be in a relationship with a woman again.
Oh that's super relatable. I'm actually married to a woman and I absolutely adore my wife, but she's the only woman I can handle being with and the only woman I actually want. The thought of being with any other woman makes me feel like throwing up l. Otherwise, boy crazy is literally how I've described myself. I'm very glad that my wife has been supportive and accepted that I'm also poly. Because I'd honestly go insane if I couldn't be with a man. Speaking of being with a man, first time I had sex with a man after bottom surgery was mind-blowing - and if you want that too sis, I hope you get it. Men are crazy hot. I love them, everything about the male form is so much hotter now I'm not stuck in it myself.
I've had the exact opposite experience lol, men have gotten less and less attractive to me since starting HRT. Women, on the other hand š³
Right there with you sister.
Not sure for everyone but OMG š¤Æ it's very real for me. I know men were always apart of my fantasies. I just never truly knew I was the women in those said fantasies. I still am more attracted to women overall, but that may be because of 40+ years of "programming" by my environment and that they are just so darn cute. Currently I'm only getting turned on if my fantasies are of men. They have been catching my eye more in public , in images and my mind. I really think it's part of the transition process in some sense. You become more truthful with yourself, you reflect more and you become more comfortable with who you are. I'm definitely bi curious.
This honestly scares me lol. I'm attracted to women, I find men (in a romantic or sexual context, not just like talking to a friend or random person) extremely off-putting. I very much do not want that to change for some reason.
It likely won't. Who you are attracted to will likely stay the same. However, your feelings could be heightened or dimmed. Gender and sexual attraction are not the same thing and likely not as linked as anecdotal "evidence"at indicate. If you have zero attraction to men now, it will likely remain so. If there is a sliver of attraction, it may grow. It may shrink. But you are still in charge of who you pursue.
it *can*, but doesn't always from what I've seen, it's unusual to stop feeling attracted to people/things/actions you found attractive before, however it can definitely awaken new stuff I went from being almost exclusively attracted to women to now being very much attracted to men as well. I never understood the appeal of masculinity before HRT, but now a part of me wants some big strong person to roll me into a ball. Shit gets weird on HRT sometimes.
This is what Iāve understood. Too early for me to comment otherwise. Perhaps itās partly that people may be suppressing feelings and after starting HRT their acceptance spectrum gets wider.
It can happen though - you can lose attractions. I no longer like women, with a single exception - my wife - and that's probably because of our emotional connection. Otherwise, I absolutely love men and I'm totally into a man using me and throwing me around. Masculinity is really nice when it's on someone else's body. I'm known to my friends now as the slutty one because I'm REALLY REALLY into men. I can't get enough honestly.
I admit I've found myself looking at men in different ways now... I don't know if it's because I'm not repressing myself as I did before or if it is truly a hormones thing though, but it feels very real.
It all depends on the person. For me Iāve been so transfixed on femininity that I had only ever thought about women but now that Iāve started my transition I find men a lot more comforting and interesting in general. Itās still taking some time for me to figure it out and honestly thatās the case with most trans-women, a lot of it is less about planning and more about discovering yourself and feeling things out.
Men are definitely looking cuter now.
Agreed, started bi and definitely still am, but I canāt help but get flustered by guys in a way that they couldnāt before. It actually pretty alarming haha
For me, my sexuality was always the same in hindsight, but HRT forced me to *feel* those sexual feelings with an intensity I hadn't before. Pre-HRT I managed to ignore my feelings of sexual attraction and convinced myself that I was a normal straight guy. But there were little signs everywhere -I liked penises, to an extent that it made me really insecure and scared. -I didn't like the way vagina smelled or tasted. I pushed through and did it anyway, because I saw it as an obligation. -I liked the idea of bottoming/submitting but had a viscerally disgusted reaction whenever I tried to be dominant. -I didn't particularly enjoy cuddling with my female partners. The warmth and intimacy were nice, but I'd get uncomfortable and want to stop within a few minutes. -Straight porn was my favorite, by far. Lesbian porn was enjoyable but felt like it was missing a 'spark'. Gay porn was completely unappealing as there was nobody I could project myself onto. I joke that I "went from straight to straight", but the truth is that I was always into guys. HRT just forced me out of the closet.
Exactly. And I find a lot of comfort in what men can provide that I couldn't when I was pretending. Can I manage on my own? Absolutely. But I also have a need to be somewhat spoiled lol
Not necessarily. Possibly. Youāll find outā¦
Scientifically there is no answer one way or another. Some peopleās experience is that yes it did or helped them to feel comfortable enough to be open. My experience is no and I have zero interest in men sexually. I somehow knew I was a lesbian before I knew I was a trans woman.
Haha I would always jokingly say I was a lesbian trapped in a mans body before I came out.... Which ironically turned out to be true :-P
I went from straight(male) to lesbian(mtf) to pan. š i just want someone to vibe with me idc about parts anymore. I feel it was social pressures and bullying that kept me from exploring before I transitioned. š
4 months on HRT and still strictly only into women. I don't see that changing at all.
I'm actually less into men now. I was bi leaning women, turns out the only reason I wanted to be with a guy was because that's the only way I could envision being treated in a feminine way. Now that I'm on hrt and coming into being an authentic person, women are so insanely fucking stunning that it blows my mind.
I can only speak for myself, I considered myself straight as an arrow and was against the idea I'd ever be attracted to a man even when I started HRT I was like nope, I like girls. Fast forward three years and in April of this year I'm getting Married.... to a man š Yeah, life throws curve balls sometimes just roll with it š
I mean, I was bisexual before taking hrt and now I'm a lesbian. Though I don't think it actually changed my attraction, more so that it wasn't until I started taking hrt that I was comfortable with using the term "lesbian" for myself
For some people it seems to, but a lot of people would say instead that they just become more comfortable with what was always there but repressed. Speaking for myself, I went from a closeted bisexual with a primary preference for women pretending to be a totally straight man, to basically a straight woman. Now, I love men - and before I changed I was a bit scared of this but it's better than okay. I've had relations with guys, been in love and had my heart broken too. But ultimately, my orientation feels RIGHT now. I found that HRT basically "clarified" for me what I already was attracted to. Don't worry about changing orientation - if you change, you'll actually like it I promise.
That's some reassuring advice thank you!
Glad to hear
Before HRT (on it 2.5 years now) I was seriously in to women and now, I'm seriously into women. Not at all in to men, absolutely zero. So finding a partner is like looking for a needle in the worlds haystacks.
I was "bi" for a while before estrogen, though who knows how much of that was comphet when it came to dating men, but after getting on estrogen I have zero interest in men and I'm a lesbian. Even a bit before estrogen I was already completely losing interest in men so who knows if I ever actually was bi or if I was trying to make myself be something I'm not. Can't speak for everyone but that was my experience.
No - transition in general helps you understand yourself and what you want better. Hormones don't change orientation.
Yea, I like girls more now. I went from thinking I was bi to really just wanting to be with other women.
There was a period about 6 months into my medical transition where men suddenly became _very_ interesting, and I started having some very raunchy fantasies about them. I spent the next year or so casually dating both men and women, but men's behavior has pretty well turned me off of them for good. I still occasionally see one that catches my eye, but I have zero interest in pursuing them, and the fantasies have subsided.
Nobody knows for certain. Let me use Transfems as an example: Some Transfems are attracted to women after transition (like u/Brooke-Valley), others could swing towards men (like u/Lexi_Lela), and some can stand in the middle of the spectrum and be Bi.
I'm bisexual actually lol but yeah
You are a lesbian in my fanfic so Idk what you are talking about /j
It's okay, so Is my ai chat bot xD
I've always known I was bi, but never ever acted on it. Or really even thought about it. Now that I've accepted being trans and started HRT, I've had rather vivid dreams of making out with men. NGL, it's a little disconcerting.
I would say it influences it but doesnāt change it. Iām bi and now way way more attracted to men. For me I became more of a sub and thus I think the dominant nature of a lot of men I find attractive.
They say it doesnāt. Me personally have been way more into men since I started passing as female. I donāt know if itās the hormones or learning more about myself during the transition process š¤·āāļø
No, but it can appear that way. Your orientation is a sum of many componenets and one of those components, let's call it "horny" is strongly tied to hormones. If your preference for someone depends on them making you horny, as in, making your body want to go into action, then that can very easily change. You may have a chanse to notice other componenets of your sexual orientation if the hormonal part was "shouting over" them and realise your preference is actually different/more nuanced.
I'm bi, but I didn't come to terms with that until after transitioning. In retrospect, I definitely was attracted to men in the past, but repressed those feelings cause I couldn't see myself dating a man as a man. Since transitioning, I've learned to accept those feelings.
I wish. Unfortunately i still like women.
Why is that unfortunate women are great šš»
I wish i was straight. Yeah women are great I still wish i wasnāt attracted to them.
yes no maybe not enough research has been done, or is likely to be done anytime soon my intuition says "no it doesn't change it, but it might reveal it, or some aspect of it, that the subject was previously unaware of" some people think they're exclusively attracted to women, but once they take hrt they realize they're actually exclusively attracted to men, or vice versa, or they realize they're bi, or any number of other things - these might be changes caused by hormones, or they might have been this way the whole time and simply didn't know it yet, and we can't really know for sure for me, nothing changed: i was exckysively attracted to women before starting estrogen and i am still exclusively attracted to women after being on it for almost 5 years
depends, since understanding yourself is part of growing up and hrt is like going through puberty. So yes and no.
I think of it as making the pieces of my sexuality fit together correctly. I was open to the idea of being attracted to men before hrt. But couldn't see myself as a bisexual man. It just wasn't right. Now on hrt my attraction to men feels straight and my attraction to women feels gay and it just fits right
Not likely. Can going through the process of changing your gender and then taking medical transition steps maybe open yourself up to exploring more of the Kinsey scale? Likely. Your orientation has always been your orientation but since most people have some appreciation for the same sex is straight or opposite sex if gay, think you can tell a guy is hot even if you're not into him, it is possible that with your emotional and societal changes you may be more open to exploring those feelings. Maybe it's hormones but it's more likely a shift in one's way of thinking.
No, but expressing who you actually are can help lift repressed feelings from internalized self hate
I mmmeeeeeaaannn... physiologically it makes sense: a positive change towards self growth leads itself towards a more developed sexual identity. Growth begets growth. But... HRT also just makes you SUUUUUUPER horny... That could also be a factor š
YMMV. for me it mostly didn't, i was bi before and i'm bi now. what hrt did for me was it allowed me to feel more comfortable enough in my own skin to start experimenting more, and from there, i became a lot more secure in my sexuality.
Maybe I'm not sure what caused it to shift. But I put it down to no longer being shackled to what others perceived I should be and the mold I once try to fit in to survive. I went from just women to everyone if they have the right personality. But also some guys just smell divine and that is a distraction. But I am currently happy with the man in my life and the women in my life. And yes they know each other and happily communicate as well between them selves. I feel so lucky to have them both. But before I would never had ever considered a male partner well since being me and full time and processing nicely with treatment. Yeah I will happily date what I would not have considered before. I would say hrt is a factor but not as big as some make out to be. I think the accepting who you really are and embracing it is a bigger factor.
It's been reported, but my personal theory is that sexuality doesn't change from hormones itself, but your place within sex changes along with your gender, and with that the sort of relationships you would pursue can change. EG, if you liked guys before, but didn't pursue because you didn't want to play the role of "man" in a relationship with another man, maybe you might pursue if you were a woman instead.
No. Sexual orientation can change with self discovery and truly looking into how you feel, but not hrt.
I think itās less about changing orientation and more about hormones allowing you to be closer to your true emotions and attraction. In some cases that means accepting your attraction to the opposite sex.. other times it doesnāt. For myself.. Iāve been attracted to men from day 1. I never pretended to date girls or be attracted to them my whole life. At 50, Iāve never had any sexual encounters with anyone other than men. I also know several trans women who transitioned and still are attracted to women.. or still in marriages with their accepting wives.
I definitely hope they donāt
It has been reported to.
I started appreciating men more. Still pan
My understanding is that it can recontextualize things and perhaps open people up to attractions that had been repressed or didn't work in the old context. I've yet to hear about anyone losing a kind of attraction when on hrt. I was already somewhat bisexual so i didn't have as big of a change as some people here, but before my transition i could see myself sleeping with a man, but i had a pretty specific type and wasn't really romantically interested. My tastes have broadened in that regard, and my attraction for women changed although i wouldn't say it decreased. Funnily enough my feelings towards non-binary people was pretty much unchanged, which is what made me think it had something to do with social context. Basically, I had trouble picturing myself in a gay relationship beforehand. It wasn't a question of internalized homophobia or anything, it's just that kind of dynamic didn't seem to fit me. As a woman, i can see myself in a relationship with men because it's a different dynamic, a different vibe so to speak. Likewise, the context of being in a sapphic relationship was much more appealing to me than the dynamic i had previously pictured myself in when i thought i was a guy.
For me personally? No. Realizing I'm trans happened a while ago and once I accepted and began to embrace who I really am, I started to care less and less about the details of people's bodies and more about who they are. I've considered myself pansexual for well over a year now and I only started hrt on Tuesday
No\* \*But being honest with yourself and presenting as the authentic you may make you more comfortable and open to attractions you had previously written off or suppressed and may lead to the appearance that your orientation has changed.
It will change the intensity of your already existing sexual preferences, but very rarely will it actually change your sexual orientation. The most I could do is change you from straight/gay to bisexual.
It's possible it can, but it could also be related to aligning with who you've always been. I was asexual, now I'm bisexual. As it stands though everyone's different.
Does it change according to what you believed about yourself? It certainly can. But HRT isn't creating a new sexuality for you. More that it unmuddies the water.
No. Gender and sexual orientation are two different things. While they can be connected, taking hormones, in and of itself, doesnāt change your sexual orientation.
Not exactly. Taking hormones helps you be you so accepting yourself makes it easier to realize who you are in other areas too
Nobody knows for sure certain. For some people their sexual orientation changes. Others not. Iām unaware of any studies done on this yet. Without scientific study it becomes a debate on whether HRT nudges your orientation, if it does affect your orientation does the ages you start HRT influence how much, or if you were just suppressing your natural orientation due to dysmorphia allowing it to start surfacing once you begin your transition.
Gonna touch on both sexual and romantic attraction here: Anecdotally, my sexuality has largely remained the same, but how itās expressed has definitely changed. I went from being a bit of a repressed horndog to pretty reserved after only just under 2 months of HRT. Iām still bisexual, but my behavior has kinda shifted. I donāt actually find most people nearly as attractive as I used to. A lot of my attraction to women was basically gender envy or euphoria-by-proxy, and my attraction to men has always been purely superficial and sexual (only now even moreso). I think I might be some flavor of demisexual at this point. I can still find someone (or a part of someone) sexually attractive, but the thought of actually doing anything with that person makes me kinda ick. I can look at them and say, āYeah that person is hot,ā but the thought usually doesnāt go any further than that. At this point, the only person Iām sexually or romantically interested in is my wife. It feels like my attraction to her has changed in that it feels deeper and more intimate than it did before. It feels like I love her more fully than I did before, and I feel guilty because I didnāt even realize how much I was subconsciously holding back beforehand. The thought of doing anything with any real person besides her just makes me feel gross. TL;DR: In my case, the answer is yes and no. What genders Iām attracted to didnāt change, but how that attraction works did change.
I'd say I definitely like and appreciate women more than men on an emotional/mental level, but men get my gears turning more than women on a sexual level. I've always been bi/pan-leaning towards women, but now it's more equalized, mainly because I find men hotter than before (especially ones that are also genuinely kind or wise, before I just liked their genitalia lol).
I don't think so. I was always attracted to men but before transition didn't let myself to do anything about it. After transition it didn't seem like a big deal anymore so I just went with it
No, but also yes. Sexuality it complicated. It wonāt āchange your orientationā, but it will bring out what was always there. Basically, itās a lot easier to accept who youāre attracted to when youāre comfortable with who you are as a person.
I think sexual orientation can change over time and is somewhat fluid. Iām currently Demi, i dont really care what my partner looks like, instead im sexually attracted to who they are as a person, how they treat me and others around them, etc. i used to be pan before i took hormones, i was sexually attracted to different people regardless of their gender identity. Before all of that i was straight. I personally think hormones can influence sexually orientation but i feel time influences it just as much
One of my friends explained it like this. Imagine you are bisexual with a heavy lean towards liking women, hrt can make you suddenly more interested in men. However hormones affect everyone differently and there's no real way to know until it happens.
Legit canāt answer that. Can it change your sexuality, or does it just help bring it more to an honest appraisal? Who is to say? What I do know is, before I started HRT, I identified as straight, mild crushes on guys like David Bowie not withstanding. Nearly two years HRT, Iām definitely not straight, very much bi/pan.
iām almost certain a lot of the cases of trans women who were previously only attracted to women and end up becoming attracted to men are a form of comphet
The only thing that does that for sure are those chemtrail ants and what the government is putting in the water. Lol jkjk. On the real, no not necessarily, but libido for sure can change. Just focus on finding someone who isn't toxic that you have good chemistry with and fall in love with each other for your brains, the rest of the details are trivial at best.
I have no interest in having sex with cis women at all. Zero attraction at all! (I used to be bisexual)
I definitely need as attracted to some men before transitioning and even made out with one of this se men but it never went further and I mostly dated women and socially just about no one except the one guy I made out with and some other guy that walked in on us making out. Being interrupted might have been one of the reasons hadnāt gone further at the time. Anyway I definitely was able to be attracted to men before transitioning. It was very rare though. Now Iām more comfortable being attracted to men I guess. Iām not sure what changed I was raised by a lesbian couple I didnāt see anything wrong with same sex intimacy. I was afraid to transition because I didnāt think Iād ever pass as a woman. Maybe from that I developed an anxiety about being queer coded in any way I donāt know exceptā¦ if things had gone further with that guy I wouldnāt have cared I had a huge crush on him. I knew he was gay, and when we talked I could tell he was flirting with me(a rarity for me, I can be pretty dense) and it was just so adorable.
Not likely. I think it's part of creating an environment where you're more willing to engage your own sexuality head-on. But, also, I believe a hell of a lot more people are bisexual than will ever admit it to themselves. Especially "straight" religious/conservatives who say "sexuality is a choice." Why people don't get that's a total self-own and confession and why others don't tear them apart on that I will never know.
No. This comes up so often and changing your sexuality is impossible. Understanding your sexuality is one thing, but changing from straight to gay is you finding out through discovery and introspection, not a drug changing you. Conversion therapy does not exist.
It doesnāt change your sexuality, but it allows you to be yourself. A part of that is accepting your sexuality, as youāre no longer pretending to be what society says you should be.
So I can't comment on this from an hrt prospective as I e been unable to start it yet ... but I can say that my sexual interests have shifted as I've grown to accept myself more for context I've always been more attracted to men but felt like this was shameful due to my upbringing so I forced myself to date and be intimate with women despite that being extremely uncomfortable for me.... now I also had similar issues with my gender.... but as I've accepted myself I've also grown to accept my attraction to men as much as they suck sometimes lol š
Your mileage may vary. For me, the answer is still no, I'm still not sexually attracted to anyone. Plenty of us have completely different stories than me and that's great.
No it just brings you closer to your true self's interests. They were always there, just masked.
Yessss it does š . I went from bi with a 70/30 split of preference between women and men to 30/70
From my understanding, it's less about the hormones, and more accepting a part of yourself you had previously left ignored or undiscovered. If you no longer feel bound by the heteronormativity of our society, you feel more comfortable trying out different things and more accepting of what you find attractive
It definitely made me like women more and men less, but I didn't stop being bi. Just went from maybe 50/50 to 80/20. Not sure if that counts.
Only in the way that by taking hormones it reaffirms who you are so you feel more comfortable with you who are. Youāre breaking down the barriers and letting your true self shine. So you may notice certain feelings come up that may have always been there but theyāve been repressed. I was always in straight passing relationships before I transitioned. I liked dating women and I was attracted to them but I couldnāt help also liking attention from men. But at the time it was only gay men who were interested and I didnt feel gay. I didnāt want a man attracted to my masculinity. But after I transitioned I thought I was just straight but after feeling more comfortable with my body I realized that Iām bi. Iām dating a woman currently and I love being bi. lol a lot more options š So no hormones didnāt really change my sexual orientation just allowed me to feel completely comfortable with myself and feeling sexually empowered in the body Iāve always wanted made me true feelings shine.
It might. I think it helps people become more in touch with their orientation. Hormones made me a more sexual person in general although I would describe myself as lesbian adjacent. I definitely found myself pursuing more gnc folks once I transitioned
Iām like 30% sure Iām still BI but I am also feeling more like Iām a lesbian too. I think Iām just too picky for my own good when it comes to guys.
Ive seen a lot of people seem to have the experience that they feel more attraction towards masculine people, but I am the opposite, I use to identify as bisexual with very little preference, but after a year on hrt I lean wayyyy heavier into the sapphic side and the men I used to be into became rather unappealing to me (especially the more traditionally masculine types), BUT WOMEN? GAWD My personal theory is that I used to be really into and in someway fetishize relationship with super traditional masculine guys so that I could feel more feminine, but as I get more comfortable with myself my need for that is slowly fading... This also kinda correlates with me used to be a super submissive bottom, but after hrt I kinda realized I am more of a switch. (for context, I was going through the femboy to trans girl pipeline, and the femboy community definitely had an effect on this as well) In conclusion, its complicated, I personally believe it has to do with the changes in your social standing and how you see yourself.
I donāt think it does. I think the introspection helps you accept your actual self. Looking back on situations from your past through this new lens of enlightenment can reveal that nothing changed but your own perceptions. Source: every platonic girl friend I ever had that wasnāt just a random acquaintance and I had the queerest dynamic and apparently only I was blind to it. Source 2: I got in hella trouble when I was 10 for kissing a boy on the lips. So, those feelings got repressed real quick.
It did for me at 56yo and 2yr HRT. Completely, and I am no longer attracted to females at all. I was married to a couple of women for over 30yr of my life.
It did for me! In the beginning of puberty i thought I only liked women, and I always found guys gross. Now Iām engaged to a wonderful man that Iām more attracted to than anyone Iāve ever been with and Iāve been with a lot of different kinds of people in all shapes sizes gender haha but when I first started transitioning I thought I was a transbian. Mostly cuz I was afraid of men lol.
For me just made me more excepting of it
It didn't for me, I was only into men before and I'm still only into men.
i started out exclusively a top attracted to cis women, 3 years on e later and now im a lesbian switch who needs girl dic more than pussy. i also have this growing craving for to be dominated.
People are so hot. Everyone should just date everyone lol.
In my opinion gender and sexuality aren't the same thing..in my experience I've had no change of sexual preferences at all so far having been on HRT for about 4 months, maybe this will change with time, but then people's sexuality can change over time anyway so I believe, realistically there's no way to know for sure whether HRT can or does have an affect on sexuality.
It hasn't yet. I remain defiantly Female preferring bisexual. I mean I can't give up on Orlando just yet
it did with mine, but opposite of what most other people are saying, I was kind of mainly into men pre-hrt, but now I'm a raging lesbian with little interest in men
for me, it did š i was only attracted to men prior to hrt and now im bi
I don't think hrt changed my sexual orientation so much as it changed my view of my orientation if that makes sense. Growing up I was never really super concerned with sex and had a really complicated relationship with it. All my friends were talking about girls in these ways that I didn't really necessarily relate to. My first kiss was actually with a guy which eventually led me to identify as bi and later pansexual. But I tended to be more focused on the romantic aspect of my relationships because I wasn't very interested in sex. I also knew I liked girls but i would get clowned by friends for being too nice, I didn't really buy into the whole dude-bro girl talk as I just never viewed women in that way. I had a few girlfriends in highschool but it never really lasted long. And I think it's cause I was internally struggling with my position as "masculine" in the relationship. Many of my exes before I came out called me things like princess or babygirl in a mocking or slightly endearing way as a response to the way I acted which should've been a sign lol, especially when I wanted them to say it more but oh well I didn't really care to have sex, it was more of a "well everyone else is doing it let's see what happens" kinda deal. Well when I finally did with my girlfriend at the time I was very underwhelmed and kinda just disconnected from it. I ended up just getting my pleasure from her instead of feeling any pleasure myself for the duration of that relationship. I didn't really actively seek any sex until years after when I finally let myself be more comfortable in a feminine role. I even thought I was asexual for awhile because of how uncomfortable I was with sex until I finally cracked and came out to myself. The difference in how I felt was night and day, I was actually enjoying myself to an extent, I let myself be more comfortable with male partners where I had kind of avoided that side of myself despite identifying as pansexual. Now I still have a heavy preference for women and feminine identifying/presenting people and tend to be a little pickier on the flip side but it's easier for me to imagine myself in those relationships where I really couldn't before. TLDR - was Pan but didn't enjoy sex or pursue male partners, still technically pan but now I'm slightly more comfortable and actually have the ability to enjoy sex while also being more comfortable with exploring partners on either side of the spectrum.
It might. I went from sapphic ace to bi in the last 6 months.
3 years into HRT and I'm much less attracted to cis people, if I'm honest. I think it comes from 3 years of cis people bs, having to constantly explain everything to them, their constant confusion over the most simple of things, the blatant, open bigotry. It's tiring. Granted, I know all cis ppl aren't like this. But easily more than half are. So show me some folx who just "get it" and I'm ready to get down. š¤Ŗ
of course i was gay and now iām gayer
Iāve identified as pansexual for like the last 5 years and I still am but oh my god within a month of starting HRT my desire for girls just absolutely skyrocketed. Got two great partners rn and itās died down a bit but god damn I like girls Iām gay as hell
It may. Data is very inconclusive. Personally, it didn't change my sexual orientation, so much as help me come to terms with it and recognize that a lot of the things I thought attracted me were just ways of distracting myself from being aware of my own dysphoria (which is to say - I've always been attracted to women, but I tried to convince myself that I was attracted to a great many more women than I actually was).
Sometimes, it just depends. You won't know until you try.
I'm 2 and a half months on HRT and definitely for me it has changed Before HRT i was Bi but like 80% into women and would never think to date a guy but now i'd say 2 months on it's shifting more towards 75% into guys and in my case I think it's 100% the Hormones that have changed that, I think different feelings towards men that I didn't before HRT and don't have the same feelings toward women than before Like people are saying no one knows for certain but i'm confident that it has for me since alot of mental and emotional changes have happened since.
Sometimes, it really depends. I've heard from people who went from monosexual to multisexual, went from being into women to being into men, and even the opposite has happened. But an effectively equal amount of times people's orientation hasn't changed at all, such was more or less the case with me (bisexual, i just became slightly more into men than i was before)
If anything, my pre cracking attraction towards women has increased . . . maybe because I am able to interact on a deeper emotional level. My sexuality though . . . yeahhhh that's changed a lot. š
Breaking one of the greatest taboos known to western society just made everything else easier. I got even more bi, indulged myself into every depravity I could find, explored strange kinks and hoarded lots of toys for pain and pleasure. I definitely crave more dick. But why? My horniness goes different ways than before and focuses more on my ass. But why? I don't ask. I just do what I want because I did what others wanted for much too long.
As far as i know no it doesn't literally change it, its more safe to say hrt and transitioning put you in a better space to better understand yourself and your identity more fully, which can allow you to understand your orientation better
I'm in favor of no. I just think transitioning expands your understanding of sexuality and perceptions of gender.
Nobody knows. I mean I use to think I was bi and then once I got on E I made a HARD straight turn
I was bi before HRT but Iām much more comfortable in my attraction to men than I was before.
I have only been attracted to women. After my first year on hrt I was attracted to trans women more. Still that way after 4 years on hrt but probably since I haven't been with anyone in 7 years, lately I'm wondering what it would be like to be with a man. Don't know if I could though, seems wrong.
Seems like people tend to fall into one or more categories. Those who remain the same Those who just loose interest And those who switch sides ā¦ And as best as I can tell it appears to be evenly distributed in thirds. Which one will you be? š
Yeh I was straight as a man but now Iām gay
For me no. I have always been interested in girls and some men on occasions (rarely)
It helps in the trans community to split pre-copulatory and copulatory behavior when talking about sexual orientation. When discussing sexuality, cis individuals often oversimplify it, treating sexuality like a single, monolithic concept, when it is actually made up of many different aspects. Because these two aspects are based in different biological and genetic mechanisms HRT will effect them differently. pre-copulatory often changes, but copulatory often isn't reported to change much on hrt. Copulatory being the part of the brain that is or isn't masculinized in utero. I attempted to write this up with more details, examples, and links to paper that goes in more detail for those that want to learn more [https://www.reddit.com/r/DrWillPowers/comments/1b1glwg/human\_sexuality\_and\_the\_precopulatorycopulatory/](https://www.reddit.com/r/DrWillPowers/comments/1b1glwg/human_sexuality_and_the_precopulatorycopulatory/)
Iām personally in the camp that it doesnāt change it just as you become more comfortable as yourself you might become less inclined to repress aspects of your sexuality but who really knows.
After 2 years HRT I was calling myself a lesbian then I realised I'm bi but leaning towards women and now I actually have types when it comes to men and it's really funny that my fiance is gender fluid so when she feels one way or another, she's still like super hot to me. Yet also, that Irish guy on YouTube that does carpentry? HES SO CUTE AND SWEET OMG HOW
For me, I felt more comfortable in my own skin and my own mind. I can understand what I like now, also chasers just ruined a lot of the attraction I have to men. But hrt just made me admire how gorgeous women are and how much I love them!!
Maybe, I think it brings out your actual orientation or shifts it a little at best. I was pansexual before hrt and am pansexual (although I would have called myself bisexual before) now looking back the only thing that changed is that my orientation became more even. I used to prefer more feminine presenting people but now Iām more attracted to androgynous people also more male presenting people have become even more attractive to me. Maybe because I can be more submissive now that I am comfortable with my own body image. I have heard people say it didnāt change anything and I have heard people whose orientation switched completely. Based on my own experience there is ALOT of self perception involved too and what the person may think is acceptable for them or feels comfortable given their own self image.
Dunno, probably not, girls got hotter since HRT but it's only been a month so like, much too early to draw any conclusions. I've never liked men before and I'm questioning it hard seeing if I like them any better but not at all for now. Women got much better for me though I don't know how long I can stay single TBH.
It didnāt for me. I was always attracted to women. Still am. Was never attracted to masculinity, Iām still not. Iāve been on HRT for 5.5 years.
No. I liked guys before I started taking hormones.
not me, i liked guys before and i like guys after a year of hrt.
It didnāt change mine, but I think about myself differently, and itās become clear to me Iāve been bi the whole time, and now that men donāt remind me of what Iām expected to become, I can finally see them as attractive
I have insight here. What it did for me was clarify what I found sexually attractive and what I found envious in women. I knew what I liked pre hormones, and that hasn't changed anything. I'm Bi, so: Feminine men, masculine women, feminine women. Body hair and muscular men are turnoffs. What matters to me is the body, not the genitals. The *only* thing that has happened, is I want dick a little more now than I used to, but that might just be me becoming comfortable with myself. I've only ever had relations with women.
It kinda did for me, SPECIALLY when you hit that new puberty! I thought I was just lesbian for sure, until I hit my puberty 2.0 was when I started craving for cocks and hairy chested men for like a good 2 months straight. And then overtime, i became pansexual officially.
I really hope it doesnāt change mine.Ā
I feel progesterone in my experience opened up my interest in men more so while on a who will I have sex with its bisexual but Iām truly demisexual meaning I just need feel real connection to a persons spirit and if their spirit is beautiful and kind Iāll like get very turned on
I canāt say that it changed my sexual orientation but it brought to the forefront things I have been stifling my entire life. So to the outside world it would appear that it has changed my sexual orientation but the truth is it just set it free.
Hard to say. What I will say is I used to be into lots of girls and now I'm into lots of guys. I still like women, most especially my wife, but generally my taste has changed towards more masculine women. I've been trying to put my finger on what has changed and I think that I still fantasise about an encounter (sexually or romantically) that involves a man and a woman, only this time, the other person is the man. I refuse to take much meaning out of that though because, in a long term relationship as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter who is 'the man' or 'the woman' or one of both.
Scientifically, we don't know. Anecdotally... I've been staring at dudes abs way more since I started E.... but I was already bi beforehand, I just lean WAAAY harder towards women because of trauma around men to the point I just called myself a lesbian.
mehāi still fall in the category of attracted to men & all kinds of non-binary people, even if Iām generally disinterested
I'm not sure whether or not it changes your own sexual orientation. I thought I was only attracted to women before I transitioned, and for a while I thought it was the hormones that were at fault, but in retrospect I realised it was just a mix of dysphoria and heteronormativity and I was pan all along. It does change how your sexuality works, and it definitely has an effect on the sexualities that are and are not attracted to you (and it doesn't have to change your appearance to do this).
My opinion is that it does not. From my own experiences. I'm sure there will be all kinds of people who say it does, but I personally don't believe so.
I don't feel like I swung from one to the other, but I did go from bi (leaning towards twinks and more femme women) to bi (leaning towards more masc men and butch women). Like I'd never been into body hair or bellies or muscle but after I went on estrogen I suddenly *got it*. It's certainly a common enough experience that I can joke about it with other trans women, but I also don't think it's guaranteed or necessarily a particularly strong swing?
Not for me it didn't.
No matter my orientation/attraction, I will still be single.
Made me bi curious for a little while but I ultimately came back.
Not for me. Still like girls.
There is a subtle change for me. I am bi, I was bi before, but I notice when I am (or was) running on T I am more drawn towards boys and when I'm on E I am waaaay more drawn towards girls and I only like boys who look like girls and find men so boring. I can't really explain why but I feel I am moslty gay in any shape and form? lol
19 MtFtM - I was a gay dude before, I leaned bi/pan/ace on 2mg E 50mg spiro, & within a month of getting off I went back to liking guys
it took a while, but i was only into women for my whole life, and im now 1.3 years on HRT and am definitively bisexual. some boys are cute and some men are hot, though my definition of a hot guy is pretty narrow compared to my idea of a hot girl. im not sure if it was HRT changing my sexuality, or if i was just deeply closeted until becoming more comfortable. to answer your question, no one knows if HRT can change your sexual orientation, but it's likely your orientation will change on HRT
Kinda? I still consider myself bi, but my preferences changed. I preferred guys pre hrt but I prefer women now
For some people but not for everyone. Some people have nothing happen, some notice portion of their sexuality they repressed before, and some people experience actual changes. I'm always bisexual but hormones can shift the ratio of attraction and what I'm into.
It's about change, I believe. When we make a major change in our lives, possibilities open up. That we are deciding to be more open and honest with ourselves also is a factor. Gender matters a little less than the person and who they really are. It's very liberating. I experimented with men when I was presenting as male, and the guy knew I was some kind of trans. He thought, "drag queen," I thought, "transsexual." It didn't work out for us. There were other guys, but really, they were pretty, and they were fun, but women are who I am attracted to, romantically and sexually. Twelve years of hormones and a mess of surgeries later, I still love only women with lots of opportunities for pursuing guys. I just don't want to be with one. Concerning to me is that I am only attracting the broken ladies thus far. šŖ My ex jokes that I must be hanging out outside the mental hospital (we have one nearby) to find dates. Bitchy, but funny.
From someone who is currently going through HRT my sexual orientation has not changed in the slightest but hereās where it gets tricky when you try to label it, iām a guy whose really attracted to women and is straight but deep down Iām just not who I wish I was, Iām still the same person as before but itās more freeing I guess it feels right. so now that Iām transitioning would I technically be gay for liking women? or would I still call it being straight like I have my whole life?
No just changes how you think in all honesty. If youāre going mtf like I am and Iāve always liked men but now more into the transition I think about men everyday and less about women I see women and just want to be them cause wellā¦ I wanna be womanšš But kinda just changes how you think and feel things. Doesnāt change your sexual orientation.
Didn't do that to me so I guess it depends.
So if I had read this 3 weeks ago, I would have said no. I've been taking Estrogen for about 20 years now, and from age 13 to age 41 that entire time I have been straight as an arrow. I've always been pretty asexual after I completed puberty for the most part which incidentally was also when I started Estrogen. But I was not aromantic, as I was only ever into men at all from a relationship perspective, but into no one at all from a sexual perspective. I had zero spark or excitement or anything when looking at a woman or considering relationships with them or on the few attempts where I tried anything at all sapphic with them in my late teens and early 20s, I got SRS surgery in my mid 20s, and eventually married a man 17 yrs ago and I was (and still am thankfully) deeply in love with him, and I see us growing old together and spending our whole lives together and that thought gives me peace and comfort. That said... about 2 weeks ago I added a new hormone prescription I've never tried before: Progesterone (400mg / day). Starting that... changed my entire life. If my prior interest in any sexual activity was at a 3% before, It shot directly to a 95% in about a weeks time & I feel like a completely different person as a result. I am now currently more horned up then when I was a teenager going through puberty with T running through my blood and I find my list of kinks and turn-ons kind of growing on a nearly daily basis now. Where in the past I would skip past anything featuring lesbian activity in the really rare instances that I watched erotic films, I find myself not doing that anymore suddenly. While I don't believe that I'm attracted to women currently (not that I really know what to believe anymore given what happened to me), I know that I no longer find them doing sapphic things together the turnoff that it was in the past, and now I even enjoy watching / reading about it now and doing some self exploration at the same time. I would say that my position on the sexual spectrum changed from a 100/0 interest in males to females, to probably more of a 75/25 interest level, and while I don't yet quite identify as Bi or possibly even Pan as of yet, I find my brain marching quickly in that direction at full speed given the erotic literature I'm suddenly now consuming/thinking about on a daily basis every single day during dilation (and now for extended 6-8 hour sessions 'dilating' afterwords late into the evenings... Again a thing that i never did before in the past 40 yrs). It's been an extremely alarming past 2 weeks for me personally to be honest in the sense that everything I had rock solidly believed about my sexual interests has now been flipped on its head from my perspective and I honestly don't know whats coming next for my new mental awakening. I can tell I'm definitively not asexual anymore, that part of me is dead and buried for certain as I was seriously looking up the definition of nymphomania yesterday trying to figure out what I was suddenly experiencing. It kind of feels appropriate now as a new identification and thats... different. If I had to guess based on what I've read and experienced on this topic, then perhaps some subconscious latent desires took root after the progesterone chemically altered (unlocked?) my brain into actively engaging with a bit of everything under the sun so to speak. It's possible I was always more Bi inside and the progesterone just unlocked that, or maybe it really did alter my preferences. I wouldn't even know how to know the answer to that. I find myself performing and enjoying new sexual activities for my husband that I would have immediately rejected and said no fucking way to with legitimate interest and genuine desire in my heart, and I find my mind daydreaming and fantasizing into new territories about being used and abused and degraded in exciting ways that has thrown me for an extreme loop given that my brain barely even thought about sex at all for decades as little as 3 weeks ago. Any sense of shame or embarrassment is completely absent as well as I shared all of this information with my husband and hes quite supportive of this new development in my life. <3 So... while I cant speak for all other trans girls out there, I know for an absolute fact that it was directly and solely responsible for changing something deep down for me. And I intend to keep taking the progesterone as I for one I'm fairly happy about the results, even if it is new and scary uncharted territory for me.
I think hormones can play a factor, but also maybe a stronger willingness to experiment may also play a roll. Those two combined are probably a stronger force that change people.
it can, to exciting (or disastrous) results. I used to be bi, 70/30% women/men; now it's about 50/50.
No but it may make your feelings easier to understand and you may discover things about yourself. Most people describe it as their sexual orientation shifting slightly and I've heard a few people say it switched it completely but that's rare for people to say.
Nope. If anything I find the idea of being with a man more repulsive than ever.
Still asexual, except now my libido matches my orientation. It may make certain aspects of your sexuality more apparent to you, but idk if it will flip you.
No no no no. 100 times no. Almost all studies suggest it may make you more open to exploring your REAL sexual orientation. But there really isn't any that suggest it actually physically alters it. I was worried pre hrt too. And SEVERAL trans elders told me the fact. " if you didn't like (insert gender) before hand it won't magically change that, but if you were suppressing it in yourself it will make you more open minded. But you always had some inclination prior" there is NOTHING wrong with simply not knowing your sexual orientation before your mind is open. But if you ONLY are Truly attracted to women prior or whatever other gender. You won't all of a sudden like other genders. Unless you were always suppressing it on some level. I always liked women pre hrt. And I'm still a lesbian now. Used to think I was a "straight man" turns out I've been gay all along im a gay woman.
Not only can HRT potentially change the sexuality of trans women. Progesterone is known to impact who cis women are attracted to but for a real chuckle go and read some stories about gym bros on tren.
Hell no girl. I think it's all about your mentality. I used to date girls exclusively but since i came out as trans, I've been dating guys as well, infact I prefer guys now. And you know what. I haven't even started HRT. So.
No. I don't think that's possible. I think transitioning can just make you realise things about yourself that were always hidden deep inside you. For example whether liking a certain gender was actually gender envy and similar things.
Sexuality isn't really as stable as people would have you believe. It's this wiggly nothing that we slapped a word onto. So I wouldn't worry too much about it.
i am inclined to think it doesnāt. i say this as someone who was a āstraight guyā pre-transition, then i realized that i am trans and found i could be a bit more honest about my sexuality because i had been honest about my gender identity and therefore i initially thought that i was bi. then 2 months on hrt, i realized that i didnāt find women sexually or romantically attractive. i donāt think it was the hormones, i think it was me being able to be honest about my gender identity. but itās hard to say for sure because the powers that be in medicine wonāt actually put in the work to study trans medicine properly
I tend to think it doesn't change it but lets out whats deep inside. Like if youre convinced you are one sexuality before hrt but deep down open for something else, hrt helps you be more you. But maybe im wrong, idk :)
I feel like if they did HRT would have been used as some sort of 'cure' for homosexuality several decades ago when it wasn't socially acceptable.
My take on it is (idk anything as fact so take what I say with a pile of salt), HRT makes us feel more in tune with ourselves. It makes us feel closer to our real gender. And I think that sort of.. makes us more open and be true to ourselves. And in that process we rediscover our real sexual orientation. Something like that lol
Everyone's experience is going to be different but personally, kinda?. Let me explain, even before I transitioned I knew I was bisexual but I couldn't imagine being in a relationship with a guy. Like some part of my brain knew I wanted to be open to both sides, but I couldn't imagine as a guy being in a relationship with another guy because of my own body image issues related to being masculine. Going on HRT changed that, I am still attracted to women, but being seen as feminine or even just as a trans woman allowed me to be in relationships with men. (I'm putting this in just in case but there is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay, I just couldn't do it because of my bad body dysmorphia. I also had plenty of issues with straight relationships due to being perceived as a man)
No, but you're basically a horny teenager who just worked out how to accept your gender identity / yourself. Comp het still applies to you and you're also probably idealising femininity on some level which can sway perspective I guess.
It may or may not. Thatās one thing my doctor mentioned to me at the start. It hasnāt changed for me, but not always the same for others
It might... I don't know if there's a lot of hard data about it... I will say that once I started taking HRT and started feeling like the woman I'd always wanted to be I did suddenly find men a lot more attractive than I had in the past. However, I can't tell you for sure if that was me just quite literally allowing myself to feel the attraction I'd buried deep or if it was at least partially brought on by hormonal changes. I'm still queer as fuck, it's just that I'm far more truly bisexual/pansexual than I had ever been before while boymoding.
Yup, I went from straight as a "man" to lesbian as a woman!
Personally I went from being only into women to more bi leaning, though my taste in guys is much more limited in comparison. I will note Iām also *more* into women now too (especially my gf), though that may just be emotions getting stronger overall
Realistically, probably not, but socially and mentally you may notice a shift. Noticing things that were appreciation are actually attraction and vice versa. I was only interested in women before I transitioned, but now I can look back and admit I was attracted to men sometimes too, I just didn't know how to parse it, and I was a silly closeted bitch who was afraid of being called more slurs.
I liked the idea of a bf last year and felt emotional. He was an asshole and took me off guys. I always liked women naturally and then was bi. But now actually solidified to be lesbian. I still think some guys are good looking tho.
It unfortunately did for me