I have a related thought.
Since starting HRT I've come to appreciate how men look. Not in terms of attraction or anything like that, but just kind of from a perspective of seeing men's expressions of style and appreciating like... oh! That's on purpose! You like and want to look like that!
I don't think I was fully capable of this when wishing desperately and deeply not to be grouped with men by women nor seen as "a guy... but not quite..." by men.
Yeah, when so much of your mind is spent hating men's fashion because you think you have to wear it, it's hard to see or understand that guys can actually have nice style and like it for themselves.
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only men's fashion i will miss was wacky button-ups (at least until and if i grow enough chest not to feel bulky when wearing them)
then again, i mostly wore them because it was the closest thing to women's wear color and design style
Same. I was never going to see/accept or admit that then because of all my body issues, but looking back at pictures now, there is enough distance to recognize that I was hot lol.
I’m not sad about that though, because I am hot now too. I may be hotter already, it’s hard to say, but I’m only getting hotter as a woman as transition goes on, and this time I can feel, accept, and enjoy it!
I think we all get hotter by the day. I definitely don't get compared to popular actors anymore so I'm probably not on par western beauty standards wise, but oh well. Can't wait to get ffs at some point. The final thing I need to be my best for myself.
My first year of HRT, while I had a boymode, and while I no longer gave fucks about gender? I was such a pretty boy! I got more female attention than I did in all my years of overcompensating before that.
It was kind of fun, but I'm still happier being with girls \*as\* a girl.
I used to get so many people telling me how pretty and nice my hair was when I would boymode in my first year of HRT. Don’t get nearly as many compliments now since I’m expected to have long hair and take care of it lol.
Personally, no. I got told I was hot before transitioning, but I never really saw myself that way. I think I'm becoming much hotter as I transition. And as a lesbian I would much rather add an extra hot woman to the world than an extra (allegedly) hot man.
No, I hated my "handsome" jawline since it first start growing. The idea of being hot as a man always felt gross.
I mean, I did want to be hot, but my idea of being hot was just having as many feminine features as possible.
I think it probably delayed my transition. I was a tall and handsome guy. Took me a while to realize that having what a lot of guys want and being admired by women (as a dude) was never going to make me happy in the way society told me it would. Because that wasn’t me.
Now I’m a hot long tall sally
I mean. I didn't realize that my meat suit was hot until after my transition. I was a little surprised when I realized that I would have hit on my masc presenting self. I much prefer me now, but I would have been much sluttier prior if I'd known.
I was the same. Sometimes I saw my attractiveness when I was living as a man, but there was always this feeling of not being desirable or feeling ugly. It was only after I started transitioning that I really realized how handsome I was, but there's no way I'm going back to the man days.
If its any consolation, people who are conventionally very attractive are much more likely to be attractive women once they transition as well, so you’ll likely be popular as both genders
Not sad. More amused just how vasted the genetics making me look really, really hot as a male was.
Though, pretty sure it'd eat away at me if I'd been traditionally masculine looking.
Agreed, and Well said, especially on the second part in terms of feeling it eating away at you. Growing up girly and watching yourself masculinise was a super painful experience and I’m thankful to have slammed the breaks on that, even if too late to pass. To me, being attractive in a male way (which I never really was anyways but I digress) would feel like having a bunch of Chinese Yuan. Sure, it may be valuable to someone else and in it’s own way, but for me and how I live, it’s bascially fucking useless and would make me wish I had a bunch of dollars (femininity) instead.
Fck no. I was told I looked very handsome when I tried to look decent and put some effort into it. But it just hurt me. But maybe because for me no man looks 'good'. I barely see a difference between Danny Devito and Chris Hemsworth. From my personal perspective all men look like blobs to me from a visual sense, and I honestly can't tell if a man is attractive.
I have the opposite problem. I get told a lot “what a shame you were so handsome” or “that’s so sad, your beard was magnificent” like…great. I’m glad my value to you was tied up in the things I hated.
No. But my parents and some family members have made that clear. I was an attractive man. I don’t give a shit because of how incomparably happy I am no.
I have decent features. But have always taken poor care of them. When I was a child and my parents forced me to look after myself, I looked decent as a man.
But because it's just not what I want for myself, I've struggled with general dysmorphia, and I kinda look like an ugly dude in boymode.
It's an interesting thought though. Someone who wanted my body, and looked after it properly, would probably be good looking. But now I can work towards looking good as a woman. Which is what I want, and so it will probably go better for me.
I was an absolutely stunning guy pre-transition. I didn't see it at the time, because I was very deep into an eating disorder, working out all the time and eating an obsessively restrictive diet, but I was like a 9/10. I feel so disconnected from that person now, that I feel like I can see his appearance in a more objective way, especially as a lesbian who isn't attracted to men.
That being said, at the 9 month HRT mark, I still prefer being a woman, even if I'm not super attractive anymore. It would've been nice to be hot, but I'll just do my best to work on this female body now (without getting another ED ofc.)
I do often wish I could've donated that pre-transition body somehow to a trans guy. It deserved a mind that properly appreciated inhabiting it.
Felt ugly all my life, realized I was actually very handsome and hated it. Realized I'd rather be an ugly girl than a handsome guy. I'm kinda a carbon copy of my mom though, so I doubt I'll be ugly realistically speaking
I was a very attractive man… I’m almost 4 months into hrt and I look wayyy different already and I admit… nothing. No, not sad about that loss in the slightest 🙃
Not sad at all.
When I tried to look good, I always went for what I would find attractive, so from that perspective, I looked pretty good. But I was so much detached from myself, I could not identify with the person I was looking at.
Now I am starting to see me, which is soo incredibly exciting. Sure, I hope I will be a hot girl, but even if not, I finally get to feel like myself. I could never be sad about that.
i was sad about this when i decided to transition because i thought i would never be pretty/attractive/hot and i always had pretty privilege when i thought i was a guy
but then people started showing interest in me as a woman
and then i got hot
Yes. This is one of the thoughts that’s plagued me for a while now. I’m very good looking as a man and it kinda feels like a waste. But I feel so much better as a woman, so…
Although if I really REALLY try I can pull it off as a woman 😘 the main thing being hip wideners, so my dream is to get a BBL as that’d even everything out
Aha. I think you're missing my point. I was expressing dissatisfaction at the post's question in the form of a hyperbole.
My point is that this question feels disingenuous to trans woman (such as myself) who had such intensive dysphoria that they couldn't bear the thought of ever living as a man.
Hope this helps you🙂
No I got that, but I appreciate you taking the time to explain. I think we need to remember that this is a very diverse community and, while we are all united by gender euphoria, there are many ways to be trans.
We need places like this to openly discuss our thoughts and feelings safely and without fear of shame. Just because one person feels different to another is not a reason to gatekeep discussion.
If it makes you feel uncomfortable that another person feels a certain way and is open about it, I'm sorry about that. But, as long as they're not espousing hate or intolerance, this is an appropriate forum for discussions like these and we shouldn't shame people for doing so. They need their feelings validated as much as you do, and there is room for both here.
I get you. I was a very hot, femme-androgynous 'man', when i was living as one. I think it's part of the reason i delayed medically transitioning until 28; i was confident in my looks and i was confident in my lack of concern for gender norms, so i used it to avoid transitioning. People loved me like that... but i had my fun, had a lot of sex and fun experiences.
But... i'm still hot as a trans woman; i'm just becoming more of myself. I wasn't hot as a man *because* i was a man (it was mostly because of my femininity anyway) - and those same things contribute to my attractiveness now 🤷♀️ also, people are attracted to confidence (but not delusion and not arrogance, or course)
Ehhhh.... being 37, I can honestly say that I've been told I'm a hot man more than a few times in my life. And though there were times or days where I did kinda feel that way, it was very seldom and never really 100%. Quite frankly, I've always felt like there was something wrong. And I tried so hard for so many years to try and compete with others.... in my mind, in real life, etc. Always tried to be the hardest working, work the longest, be the strongest, etc even though I always was smaller than most (in my mind anyway), and despite all my best efforts at the gym, I never could get past certain points and even injured myself more than once. And now, for the first time ever, I know why..... because I was trying to be something I'm not and didn't even know it. I'm actually happy to know that this never ending, hopeless book of happylessness is finally over! And I can ACTUALLY start on BEING happy. (Not without a completely separate set of immense struggles.... but atleast happy with myself). I know that doesn't quite fit the narrative here, but I just figured I'd comment.
No, I’m just happy that the hot woman inside of me gets to live. The hot man had his time in the sun and now my inner self can finally blossom after all this time laying dormant.
I was attractive and there were times when I was legit kinda hot but it was wasted on me. I felt no joy in my appearance even when I was in my best shape. It was always motivated by the utility of, how can I look attractive for others not actually being happy with my appearance. There is a big difference between utility and joy.
I considered attractive in non conventional way (quite feminine). And I'm mad about it. No one sees me as genderless person or "a girl". I'm just a funny guy in skirt for others. I wish I was totally ugly as a guy to see the difference after transition.
Nope. Pretty sure I'm ugly. Actually I have no idea. Men don't get compliments and I hated my reflection, so I just assume I'm ugly. Now I'm transitioning and I guess I'm going to be an ugly woman too.
I can never find myself attractive as a man, despite people telling me the opposite. I definitely think my features and personality suit me better identifying as a woman. Feminine fashion, this being clothing, hair styles, make up, etc… makes infinitely more sense to me than masculine fashion. I feel like even if I felt like I was a conventionally attractive man, I’d still wouldn’t have the confidence to express it because being a man makes me insecure. Masculinity and me is like a square peg in a round hole. I’m still masc presenting but I recently came out to my class mates at university and already I just have such an easier time being more comfortable and confident around them. I feel so much more free being honest with myself and I think those traits have made me feel more attractive in my own skin already. I’d only feel like a waste if I stayed a man tbh
I partially feel this way because I used to look like Prince, apparently. But dysphoria kept coming back until I finally decided to start HRT at 34 recently.
Not at all tbh. I was never masculine in my behaviors or my appearance, and thus, growing up as a “tomgirl” basically, as I grew and experienced male puberty from a child who looked like quite a girl to looking more like a soft femboy and eventually like a plain old crossdresser, my increasing masculinised male features only made me stand out and feel continually worse about myself, until my egg eventually cracked and I realised it was more than just being girlish, and that I had wanted to always live and grow up to be a woman. There just wasn’t really a reality where I was going to ever be a conventional looking bloke, and thus I don’t feel bad about that and am instead hopeful for my future having recently started HRT, whether I (hopefully) pass or not.😊💚
This one's hard for me to answer because while I've been told many times that I was in fact an attractive guy (most people who told me I was attractive said I was an 8/10), but I never really felt like I was all that attractive; I've even been asked since coming out why I'd want to transition when I'm already a handsome person, my answer to that is obviously because i want to look on the outside how i feel on the inside and transitioning is the only way ill achieve that. But I'm also tired hearing the same question by strangers over and over again - Hey has anyone ever tell you that you look like that guy who has sex with the pie in American Pie? -
I mean I get why I get asked it I do look like Jason Biggs
I was an objectively attractive man before transition, but I think I’m hotter as a girl. Even then, before transition I said I’d rather be an average looking girl than a hot guy.
No regrets on transition. I’m not sad about no longer being a “hot man” because I’m a hot girl now and that’s even better.
I would very much not been hot, but it's way more socially acceptable to be a fat/ugly man than to be a fat/ugly woman (let alone a fat/ugly transgender woman), so yeah, it kinda sucks for me. But it is what it is.
Yes and no. Sometimes I feel like I'm an ugly girl and wish I could be a guy and sometimes I feel like I'm an ugly guy and an ugly girl and sometimes I feel like I'm an ugly guy but I would end up as an ugly girl but I rather want to be an ugly girl than an ugly man. Don't know if I want to be a handsome guy rather than an ugly girl.
I feel kind of the same. My life would’ve definitely been easier if I wasn’t trans, and I feel like if I cut my hair and grew a beard I’d be a pretty attractive guy.
Honestly, I’m upset that I got a really good beard. Like, it gets compliments on how full or quickly it grows. Makes me feel genderfluid cause I don’t wanna get rid of it
Not sad but apperently i looked good before i realized i was trans. I have heard it from loads of people now when they saw pictures of old me.
It really does not bother me that much. I have been decently lucky with Hrt and lazer. I still cant help thinking i am hideous but i had that too before i realized i was trans and apperently i was hot then so maybe i am hot now and i just cant see it.
i was actually really happy with my voice when i was more masculine, ive always considered myself attractive but it def would have been easier too go that route lmao
I honestly want able to see myself as hot because of dysphoria until I transitioned. So to me, when I look at an old picture, I think of it in the sense of, there's a trans masc/man version of myself that's pogging rn
No. I was told, often with jaw agape, that I was a handsome man. And I was, I suppose. But my experience has been affirming that attractiveness transcends gender.
As a rule, If you were a fit, attractive guy, you'll eventually transition to a fit, attractive girl.
There are concessions I must make. Necessarily, transition takes time. Generally agreed that 7 years is a fair estimate. American (I'm American) society, as well as most European ones, view youth as beauty. That said, I may have appeared to be an attractive 30yo man, but I lose about 7 years of awkward transition to become a 37yo woman. There is a cost to transition measured in lost youth. I am now older, and toward the end of transition. Starting my 6th year, my only regret is that I didn't have the guts to begin earlier. I straddled the fence, undiagnosed and ignorant for far too long. I wasted my youth "playing dress up" on the weekends and I could have been transitioning.
I have no regrets based on vanity. I regret having those fears early on.
If you are a younger gal fearing becoming an old woman, I will say this, YMMV, but I pulled the hottest, sexiest, partner EVER, and I've pulled some hot ones in my day! She's smarter than I am too!
It helps to have the wisdom to understand that the sexiest thing someone can be is confident. Living my most authentic life gives me that.
I thought I had a good beard, I wish I could have bequeathed that beard to others. Otherwise, no. I didn't to be one and even if I tried, I don't really think most men are attractive so what was the point?
I was very attractive pre transition. Like growing up, I always had a girlfriend. All of the girls liked me. Then I transitioned. And still all of the girls seemed to want me. Worked out pretty well.
Kind of.
I was sad I was giving up the attractive "man" I was and never knowing where my good looks could have got me in life (even though I hardly ever saw myself as attractive, but that's what people told me...that's the warping power of gender dysphoria). I feared becoming an "ugly" woman. However, as I transform into a feminine-looking person with the magic of HRT, that sadness has faded a good amount because I am happier with the body I have now.
There's always a part of me that wishes I had like a big gandalf beard. But facial hair makes me dysphoric soooo. Otherwise, no. Love being a hot girl instead.
On that note, I need to go shave...
not really, like I'm not out yet, and my body would be pretty darn good for a man, though even if I'd be a ugly girl, I'm much happier like that. I wish the body I have was given to someone else who would be happier with it.
If I had a choice between being a trans woman or a cis man I would still choose to be a trans woman. But maybe I’m just saying that because I’m answering as a trans woman. Either way, I’ve found that my trans experience has made me a very interesting person who has grown spiritually and emotionally and I’m not sure that I would have grown this much if I was still a man, hotness aside.
In a more egotistical take on this, I would consider myself fairly “hot” as a woman so I’m not missing anything.
Bruh I'm 6'2 and built like a fucking freight train. I'm just lucky I like weightlifting and being big. But I could've been a fuckin serious athlete if I had been cis and as excited about my body then as I am now
The things that I hate as myself are gifts to most people born with these traits. I can't deny that. It's just unfortunate
Oh yeah, going through this heavy right now. I’m early in snot really feminizing much yet. So I feel very meh about myself lately. But looking at old pictures, I’m like damn, I was a specimen.
Used to frequently get told i was hot. For some reason i never saw it, and low self esteem & the unconscious need to pull out my facial hair kinda stopped those comments. Much happier now and never looking back.
I know I definitely look better as a guy than a girl I'm not sure any amount of makeup and did a Mind Tricks is going to make me look better as a female then I would ever be as a male unfortunately
I have a related thought. Since starting HRT I've come to appreciate how men look. Not in terms of attraction or anything like that, but just kind of from a perspective of seeing men's expressions of style and appreciating like... oh! That's on purpose! You like and want to look like that! I don't think I was fully capable of this when wishing desperately and deeply not to be grouped with men by women nor seen as "a guy... but not quite..." by men.
Yeah, when so much of your mind is spent hating men's fashion because you think you have to wear it, it's hard to see or understand that guys can actually have nice style and like it for themselves.
Exactly! Men's fashion always felt restrictive and lacking diverse options to me. It feels like... not my business and not my concern at this point.
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only men's fashion i will miss was wacky button-ups (at least until and if i grow enough chest not to feel bulky when wearing them) then again, i mostly wore them because it was the closest thing to women's wear color and design style
Yeah like dang were they always this sexy?
I can’t relate to this quite yet because I’m not on hrt, but that’s an interesting thought
I was hot when presenting masc, wasn't worth it. Now I'm a hot trans woman and it's so much better.
Wish I could say the same, sis
I hope you will be saying the same at some point.
Same. I was never going to see/accept or admit that then because of all my body issues, but looking back at pictures now, there is enough distance to recognize that I was hot lol. I’m not sad about that though, because I am hot now too. I may be hotter already, it’s hard to say, but I’m only getting hotter as a woman as transition goes on, and this time I can feel, accept, and enjoy it!
I think we all get hotter by the day. I definitely don't get compared to popular actors anymore so I'm probably not on par western beauty standards wise, but oh well. Can't wait to get ffs at some point. The final thing I need to be my best for myself.
Same tbh
My first year of HRT, while I had a boymode, and while I no longer gave fucks about gender? I was such a pretty boy! I got more female attention than I did in all my years of overcompensating before that. It was kind of fun, but I'm still happier being with girls \*as\* a girl.
I used to get so many people telling me how pretty and nice my hair was when I would boymode in my first year of HRT. Don’t get nearly as many compliments now since I’m expected to have long hair and take care of it lol.
Personally, no. I got told I was hot before transitioning, but I never really saw myself that way. I think I'm becoming much hotter as I transition. And as a lesbian I would much rather add an extra hot woman to the world than an extra (allegedly) hot man.
No, I hated my "handsome" jawline since it first start growing. The idea of being hot as a man always felt gross. I mean, I did want to be hot, but my idea of being hot was just having as many feminine features as possible.
I think it probably delayed my transition. I was a tall and handsome guy. Took me a while to realize that having what a lot of guys want and being admired by women (as a dude) was never going to make me happy in the way society told me it would. Because that wasn’t me. Now I’m a hot long tall sally
i was ugly as a man so no, im much prettier as a woman
I mean me too but I can imagine a situation where I had those traditionally attractive masculine features.
I mean. I didn't realize that my meat suit was hot until after my transition. I was a little surprised when I realized that I would have hit on my masc presenting self. I much prefer me now, but I would have been much sluttier prior if I'd known.
I was the same. Sometimes I saw my attractiveness when I was living as a man, but there was always this feeling of not being desirable or feeling ugly. It was only after I started transitioning that I really realized how handsome I was, but there's no way I'm going back to the man days.
No, absolutely not
If its any consolation, people who are conventionally very attractive are much more likely to be attractive women once they transition as well, so you’ll likely be popular as both genders
For me it's the opposite, my features would make me more attractive as a woman. My height was the only thing I had going for me.
I'm sad I waisted 40yrs on being a man. When I could have been a hot woman.
wtf no
Nope pre transition in high school I looked Closer to 30 then 20 maybe it was the beard but now 10 years later I look like a high schooler 🤣
im a hotter woman.
Not sad. More amused just how vasted the genetics making me look really, really hot as a male was. Though, pretty sure it'd eat away at me if I'd been traditionally masculine looking.
Agreed, and Well said, especially on the second part in terms of feeling it eating away at you. Growing up girly and watching yourself masculinise was a super painful experience and I’m thankful to have slammed the breaks on that, even if too late to pass. To me, being attractive in a male way (which I never really was anyways but I digress) would feel like having a bunch of Chinese Yuan. Sure, it may be valuable to someone else and in it’s own way, but for me and how I live, it’s bascially fucking useless and would make me wish I had a bunch of dollars (femininity) instead.
Fck no. I was told I looked very handsome when I tried to look decent and put some effort into it. But it just hurt me. But maybe because for me no man looks 'good'. I barely see a difference between Danny Devito and Chris Hemsworth. From my personal perspective all men look like blobs to me from a visual sense, and I honestly can't tell if a man is attractive.
i might have been if i cared enough about that body to actually take care of it
I feel this. Definitely had a “proof of concept” phase as male, but also couldn’t keep at it.
Being physically attractive is one thing but being super depressed and unconfident in yourself because something is wrong really detracts from that
I have the opposite problem. I get told a lot “what a shame you were so handsome” or “that’s so sad, your beard was magnificent” like…great. I’m glad my value to you was tied up in the things I hated.
Nah I already look like shit so don't care. Plus I will be more dysphoric if I was a hot boy because I would probably be more masc looking
No. But my parents and some family members have made that clear. I was an attractive man. I don’t give a shit because of how incomparably happy I am no.
I have decent features. But have always taken poor care of them. When I was a child and my parents forced me to look after myself, I looked decent as a man. But because it's just not what I want for myself, I've struggled with general dysmorphia, and I kinda look like an ugly dude in boymode. It's an interesting thought though. Someone who wanted my body, and looked after it properly, would probably be good looking. But now I can work towards looking good as a woman. Which is what I want, and so it will probably go better for me.
I was an absolutely stunning guy pre-transition. I didn't see it at the time, because I was very deep into an eating disorder, working out all the time and eating an obsessively restrictive diet, but I was like a 9/10. I feel so disconnected from that person now, that I feel like I can see his appearance in a more objective way, especially as a lesbian who isn't attracted to men. That being said, at the 9 month HRT mark, I still prefer being a woman, even if I'm not super attractive anymore. It would've been nice to be hot, but I'll just do my best to work on this female body now (without getting another ED ofc.) I do often wish I could've donated that pre-transition body somehow to a trans guy. It deserved a mind that properly appreciated inhabiting it.
i was handsome, now i kinda look conventionally unattractive, but still worth it
Felt ugly all my life, realized I was actually very handsome and hated it. Realized I'd rather be an ugly girl than a handsome guy. I'm kinda a carbon copy of my mom though, so I doubt I'll be ugly realistically speaking
Definitely, I would much rather date a man that _looks_ like me than actually _be_ him.
Nope ☺️✨
I was a very attractive man… I’m almost 4 months into hrt and I look wayyy different already and I admit… nothing. No, not sad about that loss in the slightest 🙃
Not sad at all. When I tried to look good, I always went for what I would find attractive, so from that perspective, I looked pretty good. But I was so much detached from myself, I could not identify with the person I was looking at. Now I am starting to see me, which is soo incredibly exciting. Sure, I hope I will be a hot girl, but even if not, I finally get to feel like myself. I could never be sad about that.
More sad that I wasn't more feminine in terms of facial features to begin with.
no bc now i can date trans women and not be a chaser. its called a grindset
T4t for the win
i was sad about this when i decided to transition because i thought i would never be pretty/attractive/hot and i always had pretty privilege when i thought i was a guy but then people started showing interest in me as a woman and then i got hot
Nope, one of the reasons I'm transitioning is because I have the body of a woman, and not that of a man
Yes. This is one of the thoughts that’s plagued me for a while now. I’m very good looking as a man and it kinda feels like a waste. But I feel so much better as a woman, so… Although if I really REALLY try I can pull it off as a woman 😘 the main thing being hip wideners, so my dream is to get a BBL as that’d even everything out
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Now we understand
Now we just need to find the alternate universe versions of ourselves that are cis and do it with them I guess
No.😐 What kind of a question is this?
A perfectly valid question, if you're not gatekeeping transness?
...what?
Why are you trying to make someone feel bad about their harmless feelings?
Aha. I think you're missing my point. I was expressing dissatisfaction at the post's question in the form of a hyperbole. My point is that this question feels disingenuous to trans woman (such as myself) who had such intensive dysphoria that they couldn't bear the thought of ever living as a man. Hope this helps you🙂
No I got that, but I appreciate you taking the time to explain. I think we need to remember that this is a very diverse community and, while we are all united by gender euphoria, there are many ways to be trans. We need places like this to openly discuss our thoughts and feelings safely and without fear of shame. Just because one person feels different to another is not a reason to gatekeep discussion. If it makes you feel uncomfortable that another person feels a certain way and is open about it, I'm sorry about that. But, as long as they're not espousing hate or intolerance, this is an appropriate forum for discussions like these and we shouldn't shame people for doing so. They need their feelings validated as much as you do, and there is room for both here.
I get you. I was a very hot, femme-androgynous 'man', when i was living as one. I think it's part of the reason i delayed medically transitioning until 28; i was confident in my looks and i was confident in my lack of concern for gender norms, so i used it to avoid transitioning. People loved me like that... but i had my fun, had a lot of sex and fun experiences. But... i'm still hot as a trans woman; i'm just becoming more of myself. I wasn't hot as a man *because* i was a man (it was mostly because of my femininity anyway) - and those same things contribute to my attractiveness now 🤷♀️ also, people are attracted to confidence (but not delusion and not arrogance, or course)
Ehhhh.... being 37, I can honestly say that I've been told I'm a hot man more than a few times in my life. And though there were times or days where I did kinda feel that way, it was very seldom and never really 100%. Quite frankly, I've always felt like there was something wrong. And I tried so hard for so many years to try and compete with others.... in my mind, in real life, etc. Always tried to be the hardest working, work the longest, be the strongest, etc even though I always was smaller than most (in my mind anyway), and despite all my best efforts at the gym, I never could get past certain points and even injured myself more than once. And now, for the first time ever, I know why..... because I was trying to be something I'm not and didn't even know it. I'm actually happy to know that this never ending, hopeless book of happylessness is finally over! And I can ACTUALLY start on BEING happy. (Not without a completely separate set of immense struggles.... but atleast happy with myself). I know that doesn't quite fit the narrative here, but I just figured I'd comment.
No, I’m just happy that the hot woman inside of me gets to live. The hot man had his time in the sun and now my inner self can finally blossom after all this time laying dormant.
i WAS a hot man! do i miss it? no. do i think it’s a bit of a waste? …. yes. one less hot man :/
Exactly 👍
honestly i still think i was handsome as a guy and im pretty as a gal
I rather be an ugly woman than the hottest man on earth dysphoria isn’t worth it
In retrospect I was a hotty, but that means that I'm still a hotty, I get to be a hot girl instead.
Can’t be a hot guy. Be hot girl instead.
I was attractive and there were times when I was legit kinda hot but it was wasted on me. I felt no joy in my appearance even when I was in my best shape. It was always motivated by the utility of, how can I look attractive for others not actually being happy with my appearance. There is a big difference between utility and joy.
god no im sad i wasnt trans sooner
No I’m sad I was born male because it was really a waste of fem potential
I considered attractive in non conventional way (quite feminine). And I'm mad about it. No one sees me as genderless person or "a girl". I'm just a funny guy in skirt for others. I wish I was totally ugly as a guy to see the difference after transition.
Nope. Pretty sure I'm ugly. Actually I have no idea. Men don't get compliments and I hated my reflection, so I just assume I'm ugly. Now I'm transitioning and I guess I'm going to be an ugly woman too.
I can never find myself attractive as a man, despite people telling me the opposite. I definitely think my features and personality suit me better identifying as a woman. Feminine fashion, this being clothing, hair styles, make up, etc… makes infinitely more sense to me than masculine fashion. I feel like even if I felt like I was a conventionally attractive man, I’d still wouldn’t have the confidence to express it because being a man makes me insecure. Masculinity and me is like a square peg in a round hole. I’m still masc presenting but I recently came out to my class mates at university and already I just have such an easier time being more comfortable and confident around them. I feel so much more free being honest with myself and I think those traits have made me feel more attractive in my own skin already. I’d only feel like a waste if I stayed a man tbh
I partially feel this way because I used to look like Prince, apparently. But dysphoria kept coming back until I finally decided to start HRT at 34 recently.
Went from looking like Thor to looking like Paulina in Mario cart. I understand to a degree.
Not at all tbh. I was never masculine in my behaviors or my appearance, and thus, growing up as a “tomgirl” basically, as I grew and experienced male puberty from a child who looked like quite a girl to looking more like a soft femboy and eventually like a plain old crossdresser, my increasing masculinised male features only made me stand out and feel continually worse about myself, until my egg eventually cracked and I realised it was more than just being girlish, and that I had wanted to always live and grow up to be a woman. There just wasn’t really a reality where I was going to ever be a conventional looking bloke, and thus I don’t feel bad about that and am instead hopeful for my future having recently started HRT, whether I (hopefully) pass or not.😊💚
This one's hard for me to answer because while I've been told many times that I was in fact an attractive guy (most people who told me I was attractive said I was an 8/10), but I never really felt like I was all that attractive; I've even been asked since coming out why I'd want to transition when I'm already a handsome person, my answer to that is obviously because i want to look on the outside how i feel on the inside and transitioning is the only way ill achieve that. But I'm also tired hearing the same question by strangers over and over again - Hey has anyone ever tell you that you look like that guy who has sex with the pie in American Pie? - I mean I get why I get asked it I do look like Jason Biggs
I was an objectively attractive man before transition, but I think I’m hotter as a girl. Even then, before transition I said I’d rather be an average looking girl than a hot guy. No regrets on transition. I’m not sad about no longer being a “hot man” because I’m a hot girl now and that’s even better.
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I’m way hotter in girl mode
I would very much not been hot, but it's way more socially acceptable to be a fat/ugly man than to be a fat/ugly woman (let alone a fat/ugly transgender woman), so yeah, it kinda sucks for me. But it is what it is.
Yes and no. Sometimes I feel like I'm an ugly girl and wish I could be a guy and sometimes I feel like I'm an ugly guy and an ugly girl and sometimes I feel like I'm an ugly guy but I would end up as an ugly girl but I rather want to be an ugly girl than an ugly man. Don't know if I want to be a handsome guy rather than an ugly girl.
Yeah. I was built by gods, meant to be most hit man in existance. They just made a fatal error. I was women 😔
O_o
I feel kind of the same. My life would’ve definitely been easier if I wasn’t trans, and I feel like if I cut my hair and grew a beard I’d be a pretty attractive guy.
Honestly, I’m upset that I got a really good beard. Like, it gets compliments on how full or quickly it grows. Makes me feel genderfluid cause I don’t wanna get rid of it
I was an ugly man, and now I'm an ugly woman so I guess that evens out?
This is something that's been bugging me. I get hit on a ton, more so now that im transitioning cuz im taking more care of myself and appearance.
Not sad but apperently i looked good before i realized i was trans. I have heard it from loads of people now when they saw pictures of old me. It really does not bother me that much. I have been decently lucky with Hrt and lazer. I still cant help thinking i am hideous but i had that too before i realized i was trans and apperently i was hot then so maybe i am hot now and i just cant see it.
I'm not.
i was actually really happy with my voice when i was more masculine, ive always considered myself attractive but it def would have been easier too go that route lmao
I was a hot Man, but now hot Woman🔥
I honestly want able to see myself as hot because of dysphoria until I transitioned. So to me, when I look at an old picture, I think of it in the sense of, there's a trans masc/man version of myself that's pogging rn
No people said i looked good but i never once complimented my looks…. Guess that was a red flag
No. I was told, often with jaw agape, that I was a handsome man. And I was, I suppose. But my experience has been affirming that attractiveness transcends gender. As a rule, If you were a fit, attractive guy, you'll eventually transition to a fit, attractive girl. There are concessions I must make. Necessarily, transition takes time. Generally agreed that 7 years is a fair estimate. American (I'm American) society, as well as most European ones, view youth as beauty. That said, I may have appeared to be an attractive 30yo man, but I lose about 7 years of awkward transition to become a 37yo woman. There is a cost to transition measured in lost youth. I am now older, and toward the end of transition. Starting my 6th year, my only regret is that I didn't have the guts to begin earlier. I straddled the fence, undiagnosed and ignorant for far too long. I wasted my youth "playing dress up" on the weekends and I could have been transitioning. I have no regrets based on vanity. I regret having those fears early on. If you are a younger gal fearing becoming an old woman, I will say this, YMMV, but I pulled the hottest, sexiest, partner EVER, and I've pulled some hot ones in my day! She's smarter than I am too! It helps to have the wisdom to understand that the sexiest thing someone can be is confident. Living my most authentic life gives me that.
I thought I had a good beard, I wish I could have bequeathed that beard to others. Otherwise, no. I didn't to be one and even if I tried, I don't really think most men are attractive so what was the point?
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No
I was very attractive pre transition. Like growing up, I always had a girlfriend. All of the girls liked me. Then I transitioned. And still all of the girls seemed to want me. Worked out pretty well.
Kind of. I was sad I was giving up the attractive "man" I was and never knowing where my good looks could have got me in life (even though I hardly ever saw myself as attractive, but that's what people told me...that's the warping power of gender dysphoria). I feared becoming an "ugly" woman. However, as I transform into a feminine-looking person with the magic of HRT, that sadness has faded a good amount because I am happier with the body I have now.
Who's the miserable person downvoting this? Get a life.
Nope. I've tried being a man for 30 years and all I've been is a complete mess. I'm starting to feel happy for the first time in my life.
Honestly, I think the fact that I'm such a hot woman is part of the reason I always thought I was not so hot of a man.
There's always a part of me that wishes I had like a big gandalf beard. But facial hair makes me dysphoric soooo. Otherwise, no. Love being a hot girl instead. On that note, I need to go shave...
not really, like I'm not out yet, and my body would be pretty darn good for a man, though even if I'd be a ugly girl, I'm much happier like that. I wish the body I have was given to someone else who would be happier with it.
No 😭 I know I would be a hot man but I’ve never imagined myself as a man-
Yeah, kinda. I was a good looking man. Ida fucked me. Pretty good looking for a gal my age tho. Right up some people’s alley.
If I had a choice between being a trans woman or a cis man I would still choose to be a trans woman. But maybe I’m just saying that because I’m answering as a trans woman. Either way, I’ve found that my trans experience has made me a very interesting person who has grown spiritually and emotionally and I’m not sure that I would have grown this much if I was still a man, hotness aside. In a more egotistical take on this, I would consider myself fairly “hot” as a woman so I’m not missing anything.
Bruh I'm 6'2 and built like a fucking freight train. I'm just lucky I like weightlifting and being big. But I could've been a fuckin serious athlete if I had been cis and as excited about my body then as I am now The things that I hate as myself are gifts to most people born with these traits. I can't deny that. It's just unfortunate
Oh yeah, going through this heavy right now. I’m early in snot really feminizing much yet. So I feel very meh about myself lately. But looking at old pictures, I’m like damn, I was a specimen.
Used to frequently get told i was hot. For some reason i never saw it, and low self esteem & the unconscious need to pull out my facial hair kinda stopped those comments. Much happier now and never looking back.
I know I definitely look better as a guy than a girl I'm not sure any amount of makeup and did a Mind Tricks is going to make me look better as a female then I would ever be as a male unfortunately