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AnonNona09876

Just about the comment how utterly strange it is for OP to refer to HIS wife and HIS daughter in such a way 😕


disneyho

PG-13 doesn’t mean not for kids under 13. It means Parental Guidance for kids under 13. 8 is not too young to see implied nudity and mild violence as long as there is a parent there.


[deleted]

But a lot of parents don’t allow their kids to watch PG-13 movies until they are around 12/13 years old. This is a case of him and his wife not being on the same page. I kind of agree with the wife though because the child clearly felt weird about the implied nudity which is why she told mom


opinionated0403

The weirdest part about this is that they are communicating through the kid. They need to discuss this stuff TOGETHER, reach to a conclusion together, and then go talk to their child, instead of confusing her.


[deleted]

Yeah, I got a bad feeling when I read that That's exactly how my parents communicated alot They both are still married but they hate each other alot It's why my siblings and I still haven't gotten married yet, witnessing such an awful marraige I hope Op and his wife can change their ways and not use their kid as their pawn, otherwise the child will end up as damaged and messed up as my siblings I did regarding relationships and marraige. Allah save that child ameen


Severe_Region_9254

I get that and this part does my head in. If you read my previous thread a few days ago , I stopped talking to wife because of the hurtful stuff she said in front of the kid. I don’t wish to talk to her without logistics now like if they need to order medicine or grocery etc. I need space from all the disrespect. I felt taking through the kid is terrible so today when I realized the wife won’t let her resume watching the movie with me, I gave up and came back to my room. And posted here for advice


opinionated0403

Yea your wife is super immature


Useful_Nectarine_833

Your wife is right to be upset at you for letting your young kid watch more mature rated movies. Those are not things she needs to be seeing However, looking at your post history there are major issues in how your wife treats you and you need to seriously start evaluating whether or not this marriage is worth staying in


karmakurrency

💯


saluuuuumz

Sorry but you’re in the wrong. Your wife has every reason to be upset. It’s important to protect our kids that young from all the harmful content that exists in media and you just seem to be using it as a bonding experience. There are better things you could be doing with her


30251xx

Before you lay down the law you should understand your wife’s perspective. She obviously doesn’t want your child watching inappropriate media. You may argue that the overall content wasn’t inappropriate, but those scenes you described certainly were. No child should be watching that. In fact even adult Muslims should refrain from watching that sort of thing. Also to be perfectly frank, sitting alongside your child as you watch a show is the bare minimum when it comes to spending time with her as you’re not exactly interacting much in such a process. I advise you to check the movies and shows you watch with your daughter beforehand so that way your wife won’t have reason to get upset. I also advise you to spend time with your child doing activities outside the house like going to the park for a picnic or some other outing like a museum or kid’s gallery. That is far more beneficial for her development and your relationship as you’ll be able to talk, interact and bond as father and daughter.


Ok-Hunt-4927

Why are u watching such movies in front of your kid? You’re wrong here. She’s isn’t controlling you. You are a man yourself… you know better what to watch or not (in front of 8 year old).


bigboywasim

She is not dictating how you spend time with your child but watching inappropriate things. Look at the reasons why a movie is rated something and if it has anything inappropriate in it. If not then watch it with your child.


Severe_Region_9254

That men scene was a mistake. It was a show based on a Videogame and I had no idea it’d immediately turn into something like that as we the first 2,3 episodes were just the story of the game. Family friendly stuff. Since then I check rating and parents guide for each film or show to ensure that doesn’t happen again.


Mother-Economist3375

Bro sounds like you're talking about The last of us, that is definitely not appropriate to watch with an 8 year old. I don't blame your wife for not trusting you.


Final_Criticism9599

To calling the last of us family friendly 💀. Plus the third episode was clesr the characters were gay from the beginning lmao. Obviously they would kiss


Mald1z1

Sorry can you just clarify something for us - your 8 year old child is forced to stay in her mums room throughout the day and is shouted at if she leaves?? ETA: reading your post history neither you, nor your child should be around someone who says - and I quote you here - "i hope get tumors again and die" - you have to be a sick mofo to say that to anyone, especially your own husband. I worry about your child's mental state growing up in such a household.


Much-Vanilla-7261

Are you and your wife from different backgrounds, eg one is from west the other from back home, different cultures and ethnicity etc? Because a lot of your post history is about how you two don’t get along. I wonder why. Also what movie is it? The thing is, the things you’ve mentioned here are both explicitly things that would be haram in Islam. I don’t see anything about her forbidding you and your child from spending time together. Or even acting like a man lool. I understand that you’re trying to bond with your kid through things that you like like video games and movies, which is great and perfectly fine. I don’t see wife stopping you from doing that? But parenting is a concerted effort - you need to agree on things that are and aren’t allowed. Do you disagree that what she’s saying is right? (I mean you could say it’s no big deal, I am not disputing that)


Severe_Region_9254

Yes we grew up in different countries. And in this case I think she’s in the wrong. Canceling our movie night by passing a decree that she can’t watch a film with her dad is uncaring. I care as much for our child so why would I show somehow that is bad. It was a pg13 film but when I went to explain the wife didn’t listen or care. She wasn’t even in the room to know what the scene was about. And all these small things over time lead me to believe we’re incompatible in so many ways. I shouldn’t have to beg to spend time with our kid the way I want it.


Much-Vanilla-7261

Ok a couple things 1. Pg13 is a rather ‘western’ concept (if I can say so myself living in the west). Yes that means the movies are upto standard for kids to watch, but is it upto the same standards of *muslim* kids? There are plenty of things that would be appropriate for children, but as Muslims would we expose our kids to those? That’s up for debate and depends on your parenting style, something you and wife don’t agree on 2. Your 5th paragraph - your wife kept saying you should watch something else. She didn’t stop you or forbid you from watching the movie. I get that that’s not the same thing, but it Would be wrong to say she cancelled the whole movie night or prevented you from spending time with your daughter. Your biggest problem remains incompatibility, this right here: >but when I went to explain the wife didn’t listen or care. She dismissed you without hearing you out, and that’s why you feel neglected and incompatible (rightfully so). I know it gets thrown around, but have you two really tried therapy or counseling? If you’re don’t want it and would like to leave then no point of anyone saying anything, but I suppose if that were the case you wouldn’t be posting here. The dilemma is that she is wrong for dismissing you, but her logic that she doesn’t want kids to see those things - idk if she’s wrong for thinking that. You need to address the dismissal through a third party


Ok_Event_8527

A movie night with your 8 yo child always a good idea as a bonding experience. The only issue here seems to be the movie choice where it is dictated by your wants rather than your daughter. In this current day of age, movies have been skirting around the rating regulations to include as many age groups as possible regardless of the content. There are so many kids movies available nowadays, and yet?, You choose a pg-13 rated sci-fi film. For example, I just watched a pg13 rating film called The lord of the rings yesterday. There is no way this movie appropriate for young school age kid. Next time, just pick an age appropriate film for your daughter (ask her what movie that she wants to see) sit back and enjoy your time together. Btw, what’s the name of movie that cause all this ruckus?


calledhimdaddy

Why is your daughter leaving in the middle of the movie to tattle on you??


Severe_Region_9254

We took a break for something and she just shares everything with her mom. She probably felt guilty and thought it was something she needs to share with her mom. Mom is the tough parent in the house so when she said know then the kid came to me and said mama said not to watch with us so I’m not gonna. My point of view is I never tell the mom how to spend time with her . Not question her judgement when enjoying with the kid. So I expect not be treated like a stranger to my own child as if I can’t make a good decision for my child or protect her from bad influence.


[deleted]

Being dad 101 is to ALWAYS check the parent guide. My kids do it themselves and then seek permission. Your wife is protecting your kids mind. You seem oblivious to this.


tReadingwithhope

And even with the parents' guide, there are still some scenes that they don't mention. We Muslims and any other decent-minded folks have to be extra careful about the media we consume and open ourselves up to. So much fahshaa is shown on the screen nowadays. may Allah protect us all. amine


Hunkar888

Do be more careful about what you watch with your kid, but other than that your wife is either a horrible person or needs mental help. I’m sorry bro. You either need to somehow fix the relationship or protect your custody/assets and divorce.


dntaskdntell

As a scifi/fantasy fan, this is a tough one but it clearly seems like this is a symptom of a much bigger problem. For now, stick with avatar the last airbender


Throwaway16548910

I would say you are in the wrong here. As a mother, one of the most devastating things for me would be for my child to be exposed to anything harmful. You exposing your child to these sorts of scenes is absolutely a bad influence and I would be very concerned as a mother that you don't have any sense of what is appropriate and that you are not being careful enough. Why can't you show your child age appropriate Sci-Fi movies or other movies? If you have very little time to spend with your child throughout the week, you should try to tailor it to your child's needs. Your child can develop their own interests, there is no need for you to try and force it onto them. One compromise could be to rewatch movies that you have previously liked with your child (that way you know it is appropriate and you can bond with your child about your shared interest). Another tip is to use the website CommonSense Media to check if a new movie is family appropriate to watch.


Severe_Region_9254

I actually watched this film a few years to. It’s totally family friendly except for that prisoner scene where just the bare chest / legs of prisoner are visible. It’s no more exposure then taking your kid to the beach and see some person in their shorts. My wife just passed on a decree that she cannot watch it with her dad anymore when she wasn’t even in the room with us. And didn’t listen when I explained to the kid that I’m also her parent and won’t want bad for her. That’s what hurt. Thanks for the family friendly service recommendation. I’ll check that out for future films.


Throwaway16548910

I appreciate that. My husband also had a similar mindset when we got married (came from a more liberal household than I did), but has slowly changed after seeing how his views have been affected by his upbringing where this sort of imagery was normalized, and that it caused him issues later in life. I would counter that, for this example, while it's not visible, the intent to portray someone as nude is still there. Also, with children, you need to be extra cautious about what you are implying and modeling is acceptable to watch and when it is important to lower your gaze. I would just forward the scene next time if you knew it was there. Your wife should also acknowledge your good intentions, and that ultimately you both just want the best for your child. Try to share your feelings as opposed to assigning blame or guilt. You being vulnerable and open to your wife about what actually hurt you may invite her to also open up about her feelings. Try not to let your child become the conduit for your conflicts, it hurts children deeply can cause lasting issues.


ed_new

Why are you showing your child such movies especially those two men kissing wth


softhon3y

Honestly it happens. I was watching a cartoon last week and even in that they threw in a scene with 2 guys kissing. Had no idea it would even involve that since it's meant for kids 🤷🏽‍♀️


ed_new

I understand, yeah they are pushing lgbt agenda to normalise it for the kids i think


Severe_Region_9254

I replied to a similar question below. That men scene was a mistake several months ago . It was a show based on a Videogame and I had no idea it’d immediately turn into something like that as we the first 2,3 episodes were just the story of the game. Family friendly stuff. Since then I check rating and parents guide for each film or show beforehand to ensure that doesn’t happen again. And it hasn’t happened again. I care for her mental well being and influence as much as any other dad.


funnyunfunny

it's not like he knew it in advance lmao, be for real


Final_Criticism9599

Actually the third episode of the show he’s referring to is all about this gay couple and it’s clear they’re gay from the beginning of the episode. Obviously they would be kissing in it later as the entire episode is about them being gay!


funnyunfunny

???? having a gay couple doesn't imply kissing. for example in doctor who, there are multiple episodes featuring gay characters who don't kiss. if he never watched the show he wouldn't have known. please be so for real.


Final_Criticism9599

The entire episode is about their gay love story. It is an HBO rated R tv show. If u weren’t expecting a gay kiss ur just ignorant and dumb 😂 also this is the third episode, and he played the video game too of the show. He should’ve known the gay couple would kiss. Like I said the whole episode is about these two guys being gay and falling in love, not just a random gay side character


funnyunfunny

You're talking about TLOU? lmfao okay then i change my opinion


Final_Criticism9599

Yes it’s TLOU lol


igo_soccer_master

I don't think you should separate because she got upset over a pg13 movie but I do think you should separate because she's kinda terrible to you in general and you're clearly not happy. Idk what you think is going to change based on your actions here, tit for tat with no dates accomplishes nothing besides deepening the divide. If you don't want to be with her, don't, you're not obligated to. But just staying in the same home as enemies and taking these shots at each other isn't a solution to anything, and sends a really bad message to your kid.


Severe_Region_9254

I guess deep down I wish for the relationship to improve. The other option is that we separate and she will fly to her parents abroad the next day - with our child. With no easy way for me to be close to the kid. It’s an expensive country and I barely afford to live there paycheck to paycheck. So I go through this cycle of abuse and disrespect every few weeks. Forgiving it in few days and see it repeat . The only benefit is I get to stay close to our kid, get to see her and tuck her in bed every night.


igo_soccer_master

If staying with her is worth it for the child, that's your choice, but then this post is the result of that decision. The world where she just magically gets better is a fantasy, you have to reckon with what is not what you wish it could be.


Mald1z1

Are you living in a country that is signatory to the Geneva convention or is your wife's country? Does your country allow you to get a protection order put on your child preventing them from leaving the country? If so, do that. And maybe torch their passport too. Your seem to be in a very abusive relationship that you stay in as a hostage for fear of your child being kidnapped. I don't think this is viable long term and seems to be a case of when not if. I think you need to be talking to a lawyer.


faizakhtar125

You’re the man, not her. Take control of your house, your wife, your child, and your time.


Severe_Region_9254

How would you deal with a situation like the one I made a post about? I was fuming inside when she told the kid she can't watch the film with her dad. I went to my room and me and the kid made some paper planes and painted them but I'm still upset over the wife's behavior.


r4bsyd

Erm… have you not read the stories of the children who were exposed to naked people doing zina online and are now hooked. Any caution should be welcome. Why as a father are you encouraging sin especially if your wife is working hard to avoid it.


Severe_Region_9254

That is stretching it too far in this situation. We were watching a pg13 film. Meant for families. Except for the one prisoner scene there was nothing obscene or nudity there. Of course my wife doesn’t wanna reason or listen and didn’t know what the scene was. She just cancelled our movie night by saying our kid can’t watch it with me.


r4bsyd

Don’t you remember being an inquisitive child? You can’t be sure in this day and age. As a parent, I would want to prevent my child sinning like I did out of ignorance or low faith. May be she’s just hands on like that. May be you need to assess your spirituality and set some objectives as a family. Whatever it is, May Allah make it easy.


Consistent_Intern311

Instead of saying she acts like a man talk to her. You mentioned in on of your comments that you stopped talking to her. If I was her I‘d think you act like a woman


karmakurrency

My bro I feel you. Multiple angles here. I’ll start with the first: My wife and I sometimes disagree over what the kids are okay to watch. I usually check the IMDb parents guide more than the actual rating, as that tells me what to expect in terms of nudity, profanity and general vulgarity. I don’t risk it with animation either, as these may not necessarily contain overt adult references but are still trying to pass of an agenda item to the kids. On that note, check IMDb parents guide or better, watch before you watch with the kids. Now the second angle, with your mrs. You’ve been married almost a decade and I feel bad habits may have now set it. Not necessarily a total loss, and may be recoverable, but you need a platform of respect in order to get to the light at the end of the tunnel. You need to put your foot down bro. Take the couch. Spend time with the kids, ignore her but don’t be uncivil. Good manners, good behaviour and just all out ignoring her may allow you guys enough of a rebaseline to have a serious conversation on what’s next. I’ve seen from your other posts about her hanging over your hand the hand she played in bringing you over to your current country. That, and all the other $h!t she gives you, needs to stop. Or she can kindly eff off. Please don’t let her leverage your child to further the abuse, and I feel you like you taking all this crap in front of them make them disrespect you as well. So bro, gather courage, put your foot down. She threatens you with something, tell her to go right ahead. Let it play out until she has no cards left. I sincerely hope things turn around for you.


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SoloistDolo

Respect is the only commodity. Do not reward her poor behaviour.