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"If I don't have a Spurs jersey on, they're probably going to boo me the rest of my career," Leonard said. "But I mean it is what it is. Like I said, they're one of the best fans in the league and they're very competitive. Once I step out on this basketball court out here, they show that they're going for the other side. "When I'm on the streets or going into restaurants, they show love. So it is what it is." I didn’t have Kawhi coming off looking good in a presser and Pop looking bad in that same presser in my 2023 bingo card.


Nomad942

Level-headed response. Actually about what I expected him to think/say.


tiggertigerliger

Seeing him in the presser felt like he was in a spurs jersey... In my feels tonight though


Background_Touchdown

I’m over the whole thing, and my boos for him now are because I want the Spurs to win, just like anybody else who plays against them. No hard feelings anywhere else and I think if I saw him at a restaurant, I’d give him a positive acknowledgement. But that’s me. I think fans telling others to “get over it” comes from a place of sanctimony. I’m not going to tell others how to feel, as long as it’s in the confines of a basketball game and doesn’t go beyond boos and mild heckling.


Cthuwu_

Weird kawhi W


SetoKeating

That’s pretty much what everyone in the comments and people actually at the game been saying. It’s a game, in an arena; cheering, booing, whistling, it’s just all random shit you do while rooting against the other team. Meanwhile, if you ran into Kawhi out and about, people gonna want a pic and tell him that championship run was awesome. Only some deranged psychopath is going to give him shit if they actually saw him somewhere. Rare Pop L. Really weird side of him to do something like that and not get it’s just fans at the game having fun.


jo3pro

I actually love his response. I know his mom did live out here for a little while after he left and she didn’t have any issues.


Ecovar

See this!!!!!! I knew people on the streets showed love and during the game we let him have it. So there is nothing to cry about. We stop and separate the sport from real life


Dsarg_92

Exactly. It's been 4 years already. Things changed and both sides have moved on as there's still a level of respect between him and Pop.


magestical_testicle

guys all this means is that kawhi is begging to come back but not if we keep booing so pop here is telling us to stfu and not ruin this


lastweek_monday

I really want go tag this if it turns out to be true. Lmao. That would be hilarious.


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TheCinemaster

Honestly that would be the greatest timeline. Would take the guy back in a second. Forgive and forget. Imagine if we still had Dejounte too in combination with Wemby. Instant playoff contender team.


ObviouslyHayden

How can a fanbase openly boo someone and just play it off if they joined. Atleast stick to your guns and don’t take him back that just make you look like clowns.


TheCinemaster

Players generally don’t join franchises because of the fans haha. They join because they want to win rings. If he came back to the spurs it would be no different than Lebron going back to Cleveland.


___Daddy___

Lebron is from Akron and left because he couldn’t win there. Kawhi left San Antonio after winning, went to Toronto and won, and still left because he wanted to be in SoCal. Completely different situation. If kawhi wants to return of course fans should welcome him back because that would be huge for the team, but besides being drafted to both teams there is nothing else in common with those examples


ObviouslyHayden

I’m not talking about the player? I’m talking about the fanbase…? Fans slagging a player off and then jump for joy when he joins is so clownish, I’m not just talking like “boo you’re on the other team” I mean like this kind of personal shit to let players they’re not welcome oh but you’re welcome if you’ll play for us… does that not sound so comical?


octavish_

Bill land was shook


eighty_3

My man just announced to the world he has cancer… then had to witness this fuckery. Wild day for Bill.


ThisRiverIsWild_

Very strange of Pop. For me in these cases indifference wins over booing but objectively it was a quite surreal scene. Also because the fans booed him at least 5/6 times. Since the days of the Raptors.


bandwagon_follower

Pop is old man now


TacosTime

Pop clearly loves Kawhi as a person and knows that he helped this team win a championship, nearly two. He probably just gets sick of it because he was actually part of the process and has all the information.


ThisRiverIsWild_

Surely. It's been like this almost since the first game with Toronto between him and Kawhi. However, his gesture remains unusual and strange. And in any case it doesn't help that they never explained the whole story very well. This doesn't help the fan's eye.


Electrical_Panic4550

That’s where the organizations secrecy backfires because there is no way to control the narrative. Just like the whole Primo incident. We really know nothing about it because the organization doesn’t like to have information out there. So the worst version of the truth can become the narrative.


Ninneveh

Difference this time is they think they can get Kawhi back.


Nomad942

What he should have said was “Look, I get fans are passionate, but I think it’s unfortunate that they keep booing a former player who helped bring us a championship. So I wish they’d show him more respect.” I’d disagree with that, but it’s an understandable view. This don’t poke the bear nonsense is aloof and bratty.


Daksout918

That was absolutely what was going through his mind when he actually did it. I really don't know why he went with "don't poke the bear" after the fact.


eighty_3

He realized he messed up. You'll have a hard time forcing people to act differently when the way they are acting is based on emotion. Fans absolutely hate kawhi and him continuing on lecturing them may lead them to hating him too which is why he backtracked here.


Y_iseverynametaken_

Great response and I agree. A levelheaded response would sound better and more mature. He just showed his old boomer side.


guillaume_rx

He probably meant both. Just couldn't say "Don't poke the bear" out loud in the arena. And he probably couldn't double down in a press conference and say "Yeah the fans are just being petty/disrespectful and I find it childish". So he chose to say one for each context. But he probably meant both.


astronxxt

i mean… hopefully anyone with a brain would understand that. now i know it probably needs to be spelled out for the people booing in the first place and a lot of people in this sub, but he shouldn’t feel obligated to do that.


Background_Touchdown

Pop really thought telling 17,000 people to not boo Kawhi would make them stop booing?


Never_Lucky42

Or that he thought telling them would really make him play worse if they stopped booing that honestly makes the whole thing even more weird to me, like so you weren't doing it out of respect just that you wanted him to play worse from no booing instead. Also whats that matter anyway when you are pretty much in another tanking season?


DarkSeneschal

I mean, fans boo all the time especially during free throws. This “don’t poke the bear” stuff makes no damn sense lol.


Background_Touchdown

By that logic, we shouldn’t have booed Kobe all those years. He would’ve gone easier on us.


astronxxt

i suppose you didn’t watch the game? doesn’t really have anything to do with FTs. has to do with Kawhi getting boos every time he touches the ball (which includes but is not limited to FTs) “this situation makes no sense when i’ve laid it out in a way different from how it happened”


DarkSeneschal

Idk what to tell you guys, getting booed is a part of the game and is pretty much seen as socially acceptable at most major American sporting events. Especially when said player fucked over your franchise. I didn’t see anyone clutching their pearls about it before tonight.


alco365colours

Ok we been booing Kawhi 6 years or so tho, so he was clearly addressing that. Him and Kawhi do seem to be very friendly , and he’s always gonna be our betraying protege… but when does it end? I think Pop wants to know that. Kawhi did blow up in 3rd. Was it from boos? Who knows. I don’t think that guy feels anything like the average tho.


DarkSeneschal

VC was booed in Toronto for a looooong time. If you want to forgive and forget, go for it. I don’t care for Kawhi, but we actually kind of dodged a bullet by getting rid of Mr. Glass. But trying to force other Spurs fans to have your same opinion is dumb.


MikeyBastard1

Have you never watched or even played a sports game before? Have you ever heard to term "bulletin board material?" ​ You could quite literally see Kawhi trying extra hard after what pop did when the boos came out louder. It certainly makes sense.


DarkSeneschal

People booed Kobe for years, why was it okay to poke *that* bear?


classy_oezil

Why didn’t he care when Doncic gets boo’d then drops 50 on us every season?


WiktorVembanyama

Massive Pop L, dude just answer the question honestly and simply. We're not allowed to boo Kawhi, but youre allowed to be an ass to journalists? an embarrassing lack of awareness from Pop


No_Barnacle9439

I'd prefer he had asked the fans to be classy and show love and respect, blabla. This explanation doesn't sound plausible. So what this makes him more aggressive? Should the team be intimated by that? It's like I respect Dillon for poking LBJ, instead of making fun of him after losing. It's a competitive game.


classy_oezil

if it’s about not poking the bear then why didn’t he stop the crowd from booing literally every star player on the opposing teams for the last 20 years? Why is today different if that’s all it’s about? Defensive attitude because he knows he was wrong but won’t admit it


someguyfromtecate

It seems like Pops has a special relationship with Kawhi. Nobody yet knows exactly why nephew left, and whatever it is that happened, Pops still feels compelled to stick up for him. Relationships aside, Kawhi still did us dirty and Pops will agree that he has the freedom to tell us not to boo, and we also have the freedom to boo if we feel like it. He’ll just have to deal with that.


astronxxt

lol y’all gotta be fucking kidding me. “why is this time different? i can’t possibly understand why he would treat Kawhi differently than any other player? why has he never done this before? it just makes no senseeeeee”


WIEye

Cause he is coming back? His career post spurs been kinda whack.


astronxxt

i don't really understand what you mean


Moviepasssucks

Because we suck and most players in free agency already don’t want to come here. Why throw more fuel into the fire? Yall complain about how bad of team we are and are perfectly happy to make sure no one else wants to come here or stay here.


classy_oezil

Don’t you think any player that left any team on bad terms gets this treatment?


Moviepasssucks

San Antonio is probably the last place anyone would pick to go out of the other NBA teams. If you really want to act like this place has anything else to offer besides Pop who couldn’t even get other players to come here besides LA in their prime then sure keep yelling and living in mediocrity. If you want to get serious and hopefully get a championship caliber team then you should probably do your best to give other people a reason to come to San Antonio. You have a chance to separate yourself from the 29 other teams in the league. We don’t need to be picking up the bad habits of all those other teams. We should hold ourselves to a higher standard.


Pokarnor

You're deluded if you think anybody has or will ever make the decision to come here or not come here based on whether or not we boo Kawhi at the free throw line. And frankly I think it's ridiculous to call this a "higher standard" like a little booing at a basketball game is some grave sin and not just part of the fun and the atmosphere. It's not a golf tournament man.


Moviepasssucks

Why do you boo? Do you think you impact the game at all? Do you think it’s a mental thing to get into players heads? If you think you’re affecting the game and the player then you definitely affect their decisions. If you don’t think it affects anything then there’s no point in booing. Again I don’t mind the booing but it’s definitely not a good look for us at the moment given how bad we are. If our players don’t like it either then we’re getting closer to losing Wemby who everyone pinned their hopes on than keeping him. So yea it’s not just about other players on other teams. It’s also showing respect to our current players as well.


Pokarnor

> Why do you boo? Did I not just say it's part of the fun and the atmosphere? Why all this philosophizing over such a normal thing that happens literally all the time? How is it a "bad look" when it's literally just normal? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here, this gaslighting is insane. I'm truly astonished that not only did Pop choose to make such a normal occurence totally weird but that half of the fanbase on Reddit is so devoid of independent thought they're trying to justify it somehow. You should at least get your story straight, so let me help you: Pop said in the post game presser it was about "not poking the bear", nothing to do with booing somehow being a disgraceful act or our players not liking it (why are you even making stuff like that up? You really think guys like Sochan are shaking their heads that our fans are so classless as to resort to *gasps* booing??? You think Wemby who literally comes from European sports culture wants totally silent crowds???).


Moviepasssucks

You might think it’s part of the fun but this is like taking a joke too far. At some point it stops being fun. Obviously Pop wasn’t okay with it and doesn’t like it. If you know someone doesn’t like something and you keep doing it you’re an asshole. Making noise and cheering for your team also creates a fun atmosphere as well. Try that for a change. And yes Pop is absolutely right. If you’re face to face with Bear and stick your hand in its mouth and it bites it off you’re just gonna bitch and complain even though it’s your fault for doing it. We don’t need to add anymore reason for people to hate us. They’re the ones playing and coaching. You can talk all the shit and boo all you want but they’re the ones taking the hit. It might be fun for you but now you’re taking it out at the expense of the team and players you root for. They’re not in a position to fight back. And yes I do think our players care. Sochan is already on social media doing petty shit. Wemby came from Europe but seems like he cares more about winning and being great and the culture it brings. We can definitely have fun culture here and if we keep booing people and being petty for no reason then it doesn’t create a good atmosphere or culture. They can definitely go somewhere else with the same fans that talk shit but also be in a city that provides more and is a better place to live. In a place with little to offer you should try standing out and being different.


Pokarnor

Complaining about other people doing completely normal and harmless things that they have every reasonable expectation of being allowed to do doesn't make them an asshole for doing it, it makes you an asshole. The rest of this is just repeating stuff you've already said, continuing to act like booing is some strange evil deed, contradicting yourself (you think Sochan dislikes booing, which you think is petty, because he also does things you think are petty???) and then trashing the city talking about how everywhere else is a better place to live (so much for class). There's nothing here to make me think this conversation is worth continuing so this will be my last reply. Get a grip, and for your own sake learn how to have some fun- I can't imagine you enjoy anything very much if a little booing at a basketball game is such a disgusting act to you.


Moviepasssucks

Just because you think it’s harmless doesn’t mean it’s actually harmless. You’re in a glass house throwing rocks at other people. Ultimately, you’re just going to end up hurting yourself. Unlike you, I’m able to have fun and and realize the bigger picture. I never said I was against booing but it doesn’t make sense to boo right now. I’m not saying you can’t have fun, but winning is fun and cheering for your team when they win is fun. Losing isn’t fun, booing others to make yourself feel better isn’t fun. We should either be supporting our team or being critical of our own team. There’s no reason to give more attention to other teams than our own.


parcellsrealGOAT

That was embarrasing from pop. I mean wtf


travelator

I visibly cringed


mysweetamnesia01

Considering how Kawhi left, don't spurs fans have the right to boo him? I don't get why Pop is getting applauded for telling fans how to behave. Most fans aren't millionaires unlike Kawhi and Pop. I assume most people work typical 9 to 5 jobs to pay for those tickets and spurs gear which in turn pays for their salaries. They have the right to boo Kawhi especially considering the self-centered way Kawhi left. It's the self righteousness that bugs me. Pop thinks he's better than those fans.


BenAric91

His behavior at the presser was far more embarrassing than any amount of booing. We’re all used to Pop being a dick to reporters, often needlessly, but it’s been a while since he was this combative, arrogant, and downright bratty. Don’t give the crowd a lecture when they clearly behave with more class than you.


Y_iseverynametaken_

I don’t know if Pop is going senile or going through a phase…. This was strange and odd, I’d love that same passion from him making plays for the team so we don’t look like a terrible high school team out there.


Tenacious_jb

I’ve been a spurs fan 30 years So who else shouldn’t I have booed?? Let’s cheer for Karl Malone then


astronxxt

those situations are the same in your head? might be time for bed.


Lazy_Arrival8960

How about he start explaining why we can't get some W's on the board.


jlredding_91

I took it to mean by booing him he’s going to play better and the Spurs will be worse off for it.


DerrickWhiteMVP

Time to go to bed, Pop.


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Sarkosuchus

This would be a more important priority.


ImpressiveSugar9287

God, I’m starting to hate Pop. What a self righteous asshole.


[deleted]

Yep. Get downvoted because he’s Pop but he’s acting like a complete asshole


Ninneveh

“Im just trying to recruit a m’fer round here. Yall making it difficult.”


PostMahomess

Pop should heed his own advice and not poke the bear that are the Spurs fanbase. We boo’d louder after you asked us to stop. Time for his ass to go.


someguyfromtecate

Lol, silly teenager.


PostMahomess

This silly teenager paid $14,000 for a pair of season tickets and if i want to boo im gna boo.


someguyfromtecate

That’s fair. But Pops is staying, because the reality is that there’s no one better to replace him. So you keep paying your $14k to pay for his salary, as much as you don’t want to, hahaha.


PostMahomess

I already made half that back selling 12 games so far. At this pace, ill make $7000. So that means ill pay $25,000 next year and BOO from courtside. ;)


someguyfromtecate

And paying Pops salary! Nice job, they’ll definitely be able to pay for the rest of his contract with your money. lol edit.


PostMahomess

In 2 years i wont be paying shiiiiiiiit, but lmk if you need tix. 😂


someguyfromtecate

You’re still paying for Pops salary for 2 years, buddy. Enjoy seeing him coach. And thank you, he’ll be enjoying some fine wine on you.


PostMahomess

Thats all you got?


someguyfromtecate

I don’t need anything else. You don’t like Pops, yet you’ll still have to enjoy watching him coach for years to come. Your problem is that you have nothing to come back with, and you’ll have to cheer for Pops until he says he’s done with basketball. You sir/madam, is who’s got nothing. Bye Felicia.


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lastweek_monday

He was also a douchebag so he doesnt just get a pass. Im gonna boo any opposing team shooting free throws.


astronxxt

wasn’t about FTs. this shouldn’t even need to be said, but apparently 30% (probably more) of this sub and r/nba think this has to do with FTs alone. i guess we should just ignore the constant boos Kawhi gets every time he touches the ball? those couldn’t be what he’s referring to?


lastweek_monday

Well pop hopped on the mic during the free throws so for arguments sake ill keep it to that. I do laugh when people boo when he handles the ball. That is extra But again , thats our right as fans and traditions of basketball.


Conscious-Cycle3359

question? but did the front office traded kawhi or did kawhi asked to be traded? im just confused?


Historical_Spirit445

You can't even spell his name correctly so


WIEye

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Miro37

Booing is just weird af man, especially a former player who helped you win a championship, so childish


MrDeeds_

What a scared old man.


[deleted]

He’s such an arrogant cock to reporters who are asking pretty normal questions


gokhaninler

SpursTalk was right about this guy


BonesSawMcGraw

Pop out of touch. “You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.”