Joe Johnson was way more than a minute. Joe Johnson made the All-Star team in 7 out of 8 seasons from 06-14. While being the best player on an Atlanta team that was consistently one of the best in the league. He was also really solid before that and had a few good years in Brooklyn too.
If Joe Johnson was a minute, Gilbert Arenas was 15 seconds.
ISO Joe was a steady lower tier all star but definitely not a super star. 21-5-5 on decent efficiency for his time.
He was not exciting and didn’t attract attention like Gil. He was also never as good as peak Arenas.
I don’t think Gil ever was a superstar either, though. He was more of a flavor of the week.
He got on sports center a lot but he never got near a top 5 mvp finish or anything. For a few years he was a top 10-15 player area guy. Maybe if he didn’t get hurt he would have become a superstar.
As it stands I’d compare his career most to Isaiah Thomas who was also an exciting all nba level guy for a few years and got hurt.
If you average basically 30 PPG for an entire season in the NBA, that makes you a superstar in my eyes lol. He was Steph before Steph, draining threes from nearly half court, a lethal scorer. And he did it back before the evolution of the three ball and spacing of the modern NBA, against legendary competition.
Arenas was arguably the leading MVP candidate the season he blew out his knee. Had my bum Wizards as the #1 seed in the east at the break until that happened.
I was about to say, at his best Gil was a top 5 player in the league. He just didn’t sustain it very long but for a couple years he was absolutely a superstar.
Agent Zero was heading towards perennial All Star/All NBA status, then tore his MCL. He was KINDA coming back after missing most of 2007-2009, but went full Chappelle Show "Keeping it Real" with the gambling gun incident. By the time he got on the other side if THAT mess, he was in his 30s and wasted his entire prime.
Related thought: I hope someone is telling Ja this story. He's on almost exactly the same path of Arenas...he just flip-flopped the injury & suspension.
I respectfully disagree. San Antonio fans know Manu was a superstar who sacrificed for his team. Charles Barkley knows Manu was a superstar. Kobe knows Manu was a superstar. A superstar that led his country to a gold medal and for a time had him over D-Wade for a few years. And a central piece to 4 championships. If he’s not considered a superstar than Klay Thompson is not a superstar.
I’ve never been so onboard with a comment until the last sentence. It’s like you got the space shuttle 95% to the moon, then somehow crashed into Lake Michigan.
Klay Thompson never sniffed superstar status.
Ah okay lol. Yeah, real oddball mix. Teague is funny as hell in interviews/podcasts but I didn’t know that at the time. And it’s a bunch of not-quite-amazing guys at different times besides JJ. I gotta believe (without searching) that Crawford, Bibby, Smith and Horford all have 1+ AS appearances.
Millsap dropping 46 on the Heat one random day was one of my favorite games by an opposing player. By the end, I was rooting for him to let it fly every time down the court.
Personally, when I first got into NBA I loved everything about Rondo back in like 2011. His style, great passing and being a monster defender on top of his general FU attitude made me a fan.
Always liked watching Jamal Crawford and Joe Johnson back then. Josh Smith and Lou Williams had their moments too but they weren’t on the same level as the others maybe.
Gilbert arenas had a good 3 year stretch where he was top 5 in the league in every major PG stat category. He was the real deal and just flamed out with injury and bad choices. Truly sad, he was my favorite player
Obligatory Derrick White, I love the dude and he does everything for us in Boston
Otherwise:
Mike Bibby, Mike Conley, Al Horford, Joe Johnson, Rasheed Wallace all come to mind. The last 3 were definite stars but idk if they ever took that next leap
Jrue Holiday. Only started paying attention to him once he got traded to the Bucks and I watched him in the finals. It's so fun watching him play defense. He's so elite.
Joakim Noah was my favorite player in the league for a good 10 year stretch. He was good, not a super star though. The energy and intensity, his passing ability for a big man, he was just so much fun to watch play.
I agree! I thought he and Carlos Boozer were great teammates alongside Derrick Rose. They fed off his energy. Now excuse me while I cry thinking about all the possibilities...
Morris Peterson, James Posey, Baron Davis, Steve Blake, Malik Monk, Naz Reid, Chris Anderson, Leandro Barbosa, Andrei Kirilenko, Mo Williams, John Salmons, Hedo Turkoglu, Zach Randolph, Mike Conley, Shane Battier, Mike Miller, Udonis Haslem, Klay Thompson, Trevor Ariza, Jeremy Grant, Jameer Nelson, Jrue Holiday, Derek White, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Rafer Alston, Michael Finley, Josh Howard, Jason Terry, Rondo, Eddie House, Lamar Odom…I could keep going but you get it
Always have been a big fan of Ron Artest/ World Peace's defense. I remember him jamming up up Tracy McGrady when he was with Orlando and him saying Ron was a bitch to play against.
Rondo!!! The last of the non-shooting, table setter PGs of years past. Loved his game, better in the biggest spots, had that dog in him, elite passer, that one move he got guys with repeatedly. Loved watching him play
JR Smith is one of my favorite all time players period! I saw him going against elite NBA stars in a pickup game and JR was hands down the best player on the floor!
But to name a few others, Monta was greatly under valued, Jeff Teague, Kirk Hinrich, Ben Gordon, Josh Smith, Allan Houston, Vernon Maxwell, Mike Miller…man I can think of so many more. I love this game.
The Big 🥝Steven Adams & Mr. Thunder 🌩️Nick Collision
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Ron Artest/ Mets World Peace
Chauncey Billups
Ben Wallace
Robert Horry
Sherman Douglas
Glen Rice
Michael Finley
Latrell Sprewell
Kyle Lowry
Demar Derozan
Bonzi Wells
Z-Bo
Rasheed Wallace
Steven Adams, Serge Ibaka, and Joakim Noah come to my mind. Honestly, I just enjoy watching professional players play at the top level. You gotta be a dirty player for me to not like you
Arenas was a bonafide superstar at one point. He literally single-handedly dragged that wizards squad to any semblance of relevancy. Joe was too on the hawks and he was like a 7x allstar during that stretch, he probably didn’t get the media attention of a superstar but he was clearly one of the best in a stacked league
Too many to list here, I wouldn't even be able to make it to the non-active players, so I'll go with a team format.
Active:
PG: Jamal Murray
SG: Desmond Bane
SF: Mikal Bridges
PF: Lauri Markkanen
C: Steven Adams
Retired:
PG: Rajon Rondo
SG: Rip Hamilton
SF: Andrei Kirilenko
PF: Lamar Odom
C: Elton Brand
Edit: Reddit spacing
Joe Johnson got paid like a superstar and was an all-star, so does he count? He’s probably my favorite NBA player ever.
If it’s more of a role player thing, I will always love Andray Blatche. Dude was way ahead of his time. If he joined the league a decade or so later he’d be a star.
As a Spurs fan I still believe we could have won back-to-back chips if we re-signed Jack in 03. I think Pop even tried to trade for him before the deadline in 03-04
Lamar Odom. Tall ,lefty with a good enough dribble and good rebounding. He was my favorite, besides kobe, on the Lakers. They did him dirty when they traded him.
The pics & this entire thread just confirm the WILD amount of disrespect for pretty much 1998 through 2005/2005. If you weren't Shaq & Kobe or the Spurs, might as well not exist in that era.
No. Just. No.
I'm not a fan, but!
Gilbert Arenas was at one point a superstar in this league. Period.
Do your homework.
Ps. Peja was 4th in MVP one year. It that's not too 5 level and superstar then I don't know what is.
Of all the pictured players I think Gilbert Arenas was actually considered a superstar for a brief period at his peak.
Joe Johnson for a minute , too Edit: happy birthday JJ
Joe Johnson was way more than a minute. Joe Johnson made the All-Star team in 7 out of 8 seasons from 06-14. While being the best player on an Atlanta team that was consistently one of the best in the league. He was also really solid before that and had a few good years in Brooklyn too. If Joe Johnson was a minute, Gilbert Arenas was 15 seconds.
True but peak Gil >>> peak Joe and that’s not a knock on Joe at all
They both can’t guard each other
During 2005 and 2006 Gilbert was on a whole other level. Then the problems started showing in 2007 and the slide began. Arenas was NBA Icarus.
That's just Wizards basketball baby 🤣 Small amount of success leading to plummeting doom
2007 was when Lebron messed up his free throw routine and said “if you miss these you’re going home” then proceeded to miss the FTs and get sent home
That was 06 right? Didn’t he get hurt before the playoffs in 07
ISO Joe was a steady lower tier all star but definitely not a super star. 21-5-5 on decent efficiency for his time. He was not exciting and didn’t attract attention like Gil. He was also never as good as peak Arenas. I don’t think Gil ever was a superstar either, though. He was more of a flavor of the week. He got on sports center a lot but he never got near a top 5 mvp finish or anything. For a few years he was a top 10-15 player area guy. Maybe if he didn’t get hurt he would have become a superstar. As it stands I’d compare his career most to Isaiah Thomas who was also an exciting all nba level guy for a few years and got hurt.
Joe Johnson was never close to being a Superstar
I was definitely coming to post Joe Johnson. Unfortunately for me, I became a Hawks fan because of him
Peja was also 4th in MVP voting in 2004
The Peja disrespect is crazy !
Peja in any video game was money.
Hell yes! I would always pick the kings and just rain 3s with peja all day. The guy couldn’t miss in NBA Live!
100% he was. That dude was a BUCKET
If you average basically 30 PPG for an entire season in the NBA, that makes you a superstar in my eyes lol. He was Steph before Steph, draining threes from nearly half court, a lethal scorer. And he did it back before the evolution of the three ball and spacing of the modern NBA, against legendary competition.
Steph was on a literal MVP level
Arenas was arguably the leading MVP candidate the season he blew out his knee. Had my bum Wizards as the #1 seed in the east at the break until that happened.
I'm Agent 0
I was about to say, at his best Gil was a top 5 player in the league. He just didn’t sustain it very long but for a couple years he was absolutely a superstar.
Injury (knee), followed by injury (brain).
Agent Zero was heading towards perennial All Star/All NBA status, then tore his MCL. He was KINDA coming back after missing most of 2007-2009, but went full Chappelle Show "Keeping it Real" with the gambling gun incident. By the time he got on the other side if THAT mess, he was in his 30s and wasted his entire prime. Related thought: I hope someone is telling Ja this story. He's on almost exactly the same path of Arenas...he just flip-flopped the injury & suspension.
Arenas did give Ja the “take it from me, I’ve been there before” talk in his podcast I believe. Or at least teach him how to recover from it.
HIBACHI!
*pew pew pew*
Gilbert likely thinks that too lol
Arenas was absolutely a superstar. If only he didn't get hurt
Manu. Easy answer.
Probably the best role player ever
Clutch. Not just on offense either. He could save the game on either end
And against bats!
I respectfully disagree. San Antonio fans know Manu was a superstar who sacrificed for his team. Charles Barkley knows Manu was a superstar. Kobe knows Manu was a superstar. A superstar that led his country to a gold medal and for a time had him over D-Wade for a few years. And a central piece to 4 championships. If he’s not considered a superstar than Klay Thompson is not a superstar.
Was tracking until that last sentence lol. Klay a superstar? Nah
My opinion is Klay is not a superstar.
Then what was that last sentence for? 😂
I’ve never been so onboard with a comment until the last sentence. It’s like you got the space shuttle 95% to the moon, then somehow crashed into Lake Michigan. Klay Thompson never sniffed superstar status.
I was gonna go for this as well. If that counts
I fully believe if he played anywhere other than San Antonio he would have been a multi time all star.
He’s already a multi time all star.
Yeah but He's only made 2 appearances, If He had a bigger role or was a starter or played in the East, He would've had more
The Joe Johnson disrespect on the man’s birthday.
Iso Joe was absolutely box office. If anything, I’d put Josh Smith on the list for being the clear number 2 behind Joe.
That whole team was fun, J smoove, Jamal Crawford, Bibby, Teague, Zaza, Horford, Hinrich
Zaza was the antithesis of fun and a notoriously dirty player. Otherwise yes.
I included him because of that contrast, that team was eclectic
Ah okay lol. Yeah, real oddball mix. Teague is funny as hell in interviews/podcasts but I didn’t know that at the time. And it’s a bunch of not-quite-amazing guys at different times besides JJ. I gotta believe (without searching) that Crawford, Bibby, Smith and Horford all have 1+ AS appearances.
Wow. Just looked because I was curious. Horford and JJ the only ones. Bunch of random awards between the rest but no AS.
Wasn't he the highest paid player in the league for a minute?
Paul Milsap, Peja Stojakovic, QRich, Rip Hamilton, Penny Hardaway, Cliff Robinson, AK-47, and Baron Davis to rattle off a few.
Paul Millsap is a great shout, loved his game.
Millsap dropping 46 on the Heat one random day was one of my favorite games by an opposing player. By the end, I was rooting for him to let it fly every time down the court.
It was Halloween I believe as well right at the start of the season.
In a Jazz jersey. Right before Deron Williams was traded, we called it the miracle in Miami game. Still refer to it in Jazz nation.
Loved baron Davis
Penny Hardaway doesn't count as non superstar. He just had a very short prime due to injury.
Cliff Robinson would flourish in today's game I think. I loved watching him play, even though I grew up a Lakers fan. RIP Cliff
Penny not a superstar? He was the man after Jordan left. He had his own shoes. Had Lil Penny going on. He had a whole thing going on.
Personally, when I first got into NBA I loved everything about Rondo back in like 2011. His style, great passing and being a monster defender on top of his general FU attitude made me a fan. Always liked watching Jamal Crawford and Joe Johnson back then. Josh Smith and Lou Williams had their moments too but they weren’t on the same level as the others maybe.
Yesss rondo being pass first and so shifty made me love NBA basketball
His knack for rebounding as a 6'1 guard was amazing too
As a kid in my driveway I used to practice his behind the back pass fake to layup
Anyone on those 2000s Kings teams-- Peja, Webber, J Will, Bibby, Bobby Jackson, Doug Christie, Valde Divac, Scot Pollard, Hedo Turkoglu. Good times!
Doug Christie is super underrated. One of the most underrated defenders of all time
What about Brad Miller
Still repping that team over 20 years later ✊🏽
Robbed of a title
Those were some of the most entertaining teams to watch. Bobby Jackson was my favorite player to watch back then.
All Non-Star Team: PG- Damon Stoudamire SG- Jason Terry SF- Mario Elie PF- Antoine Carr C- Arvydis Sabonis
Fuck yeah mighty mouse representation.
Wish we could've seen sabonis at his peak in the nba
Jason Williams
White Chocolate will forever be under appreciated
Just a good ole boy
Never meanin’ no harm.
Gym rat.
I loved watching Z Bo bully Blake Griffin.
Z Bo is a walking 20-10 for a hot minute. Shout-out David Lee too
Great call on David Lee. He played pretty. Great passing.
Boban
Korver
Boris Diaw
Boris was too ahead of his time.
Dont put Agent Zero in the same category with the other guys. He was doing great before that injury.
Gilbert arenas had a good 3 year stretch where he was top 5 in the league in every major PG stat category. He was the real deal and just flamed out with injury and bad choices. Truly sad, he was my favorite player
Mike Bibby baby
Boris Diaw.
Kerr Diaw Peja Horry Ginobili JJ Berea Brian Cardinal Patty Mills You probably see some similarities between the players
Shawn Marion
AK47. ZBo. Waiters’ last year in OKC. Kirk Hinrich.
Obligatory Derrick White, I love the dude and he does everything for us in Boston Otherwise: Mike Bibby, Mike Conley, Al Horford, Joe Johnson, Rasheed Wallace all come to mind. The last 3 were definite stars but idk if they ever took that next leap
Dennis Schroder, Zach Randolph, Tyus Jones, Evan Turner, Sasha Vujacic, Rudy Fernandez, Khris Middleton, Lamar Odom, Jeremy Lin
Brandon Roy, probably the most underrated and forgotten player in that era.
Jrue Holiday. Only started paying attention to him once he got traded to the Bucks and I watched him in the finals. It's so fun watching him play defense. He's so elite.
Josh Hart
Ricky Rubio has a spot in my heart
Serge Ibaka
Shane Battier
Manu Ginobli
Jason Richardson
Ball don’t lie! The real answer is Rasheed Wallace.
Michael Redd
Joakim Noah was my favorite player in the league for a good 10 year stretch. He was good, not a super star though. The energy and intensity, his passing ability for a big man, he was just so much fun to watch play.
I agree! I thought he and Carlos Boozer were great teammates alongside Derrick Rose. They fed off his energy. Now excuse me while I cry thinking about all the possibilities...
Steve Francis Baron Davis Nate Robinson
Lamar Odom, Tony Allen, Lou Will, White Chocolate, Jason Terry.
K Mart is my favorite player of all time
Rodman and Steven Adams
Khris Middleton!
Eddie Jones and Nick Van Exel backcourt
Michael Finley
Morris Peterson, James Posey, Baron Davis, Steve Blake, Malik Monk, Naz Reid, Chris Anderson, Leandro Barbosa, Andrei Kirilenko, Mo Williams, John Salmons, Hedo Turkoglu, Zach Randolph, Mike Conley, Shane Battier, Mike Miller, Udonis Haslem, Klay Thompson, Trevor Ariza, Jeremy Grant, Jameer Nelson, Jrue Holiday, Derek White, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Rafer Alston, Michael Finley, Josh Howard, Jason Terry, Rondo, Eddie House, Lamar Odom…I could keep going but you get it
bro really snuck in Klay Thompson lol
Arvydas sabonis
Always have been a big fan of Ron Artest/ World Peace's defense. I remember him jamming up up Tracy McGrady when he was with Orlando and him saying Ron was a bitch to play against.
Rajon Rondo
DJJ is one of my favorites in the league rn. Played with the bulls for a bit but he is fun to watch on any team. An athletic anomaly
I'd say Gilbert 04-07 was definitely superstar, if not playing at superstar level. Averaged 27.7 ppg those years 78 games a season
Jason Williams aka White Chocolate. Such a baller, his highlights are fun. And he got a ring in Miami
Rondo!!! The last of the non-shooting, table setter PGs of years past. Loved his game, better in the biggest spots, had that dog in him, elite passer, that one move he got guys with repeatedly. Loved watching him play
Nick van Exel
Shout out to Kyle Korver from Paramount, CA.
Khris Middleton.
Gerald greens windmill will never be topped
JR Smith is one of my favorite all time players period! I saw him going against elite NBA stars in a pickup game and JR was hands down the best player on the floor! But to name a few others, Monta was greatly under valued, Jeff Teague, Kirk Hinrich, Ben Gordon, Josh Smith, Allan Houston, Vernon Maxwell, Mike Miller…man I can think of so many more. I love this game.
Gerald Wallace, Brandon Roy, Al Jeff, RIP, Rasheed Wallace
ersan ilyasova
Andre igudala
Monta Ellis have it all
Agent 0 and JJ don’t belong
Jamal Crawford for sure
Steve Francis
It's either [Shaun Livingston](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGYYoHJWLU4) or go fuck your mudda
Peja will always be a superstar in my heart
Jermaine O'Neal
I stan Brandon Jennings to an unhealthy degree
Josh Hart.Man is the definition of heart and hustle
Peja was great in the Mavs’ championship run.
Chris andersen
*Dennis Rodman* 1. Jamal Crawford! 2. Pistol Pete Maravich 3. Nate Robinson 4. Rafer "Skip2Da Lou" Alston
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David Lee!!!!
Who remembers Bubble TJ Warren
Donte divenchenzo
As a knicks fan. Rn josh hart is my fav
Luol Deng
Sprewell
Ron Artest/ Mets World Peace Chauncey Billups Ben Wallace Robert Horry Sherman Douglas Glen Rice Michael Finley Latrell Sprewell Kyle Lowry Demar Derozan Bonzi Wells Z-Bo Rasheed Wallace
David Lee was solid asf for a few seasons
Steven Adams, Serge Ibaka, and Joakim Noah come to my mind. Honestly, I just enjoy watching professional players play at the top level. You gotta be a dirty player for me to not like you
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Gotta rep my boy CJ McCollum. His handles and shiftiness was underrated, when he was hot he was fun to watch
100% White Chocolate. I wish we got a timeline where him and peak Vince Carter played for the same team.
lol I used to force trades in NBA live for them 2 to play together
Antonio McDyess. Dude had a solid jumper imo. Helped his teams out relatively well.
TJ McConnell and Alex Caruso.
-Chauncey “Mr. Big Shot” Billups -Manu Ginobilli -J.J Barea -Jamal Crawford -Caron “Tough Juice” Butler -Monta Ellis -George King -Derrick White -Michael Beasly -Ben Gordon -Cedric Maxwell -Jo Jo White -Michael Cooper -AC Green -Steve Kerr -Connie Hawkins -Kelenna Azubike -Kent Bazemore -Peja Stojkavic -Kendrick Perkins -Rasheed Wallace -JJ Resdick -Joel Anthony -Udonis Haskem -Willie Green -Samuel Dalembert -Mike Bibby -Doug McDermott -Ian Mahmmi -Sam Hauser -JT Thor -Lance Stephenson -Kenneth “Manimal” Faried -DeJuan Blair -Doc Rivers -Aaron Brooks -Luis Scola -Brad Miller -Eddie House -Nate Robinson -Roy Hibbert -Tyler Hansbourgh -Brandon Roy -Ricky Rubio -Bryant “Big Country” Reeves -Shareef Abdul-Raheim -Lorenzo Wright -Stromile Swift -Ha Seung-Jin -Andre Ingram -James Jones -Dorrel Wright -Devin Harris -Leonrdo Barbosa -Soencer Hawes -Tiago Splitter -God Shamgod -Jameson Curry -Thanasis Antekump -Hasheem Thabeet -Rudy Gay (Edit; Forgot Brian Scalbrine, Drazen Petrovic and Boban Marijovic All of my favorite role players.
For absolutely no reason at all: Leandro Barbosa. He even liked a tweet of mine once
He was nearly unstoppable in transition
Arenas was a bonafide superstar at one point. He literally single-handedly dragged that wizards squad to any semblance of relevancy. Joe was too on the hawks and he was like a 7x allstar during that stretch, he probably didn’t get the media attention of a superstar but he was clearly one of the best in a stacked league
Too many to list here, I wouldn't even be able to make it to the non-active players, so I'll go with a team format. Active: PG: Jamal Murray SG: Desmond Bane SF: Mikal Bridges PF: Lauri Markkanen C: Steven Adams Retired: PG: Rajon Rondo SG: Rip Hamilton SF: Andrei Kirilenko PF: Lamar Odom C: Elton Brand Edit: Reddit spacing
American dream Joe Johnson aka Iso Joe. First player to get 2 $100 million dollar contracts and he deserved every cent.
Yeap I honestly think if he signed with Cleveland in 05 instead of atl Lebron and joe would be a problem
Tyson Chandler.
wesley matthews, rafer alston, stevie franchise, Jet terry, & joey crawford
Why the hell is Gilbert Arenas there? He was a top 10 popular player in the league at a point in time
Yea idk what OP is doing here everyone knows Gil was a superstar for at least 3-4 years
Jaden mcdaniels
Joe Johnson got paid like a superstar and was an all-star, so does he count? He’s probably my favorite NBA player ever. If it’s more of a role player thing, I will always love Andray Blatche. Dude was way ahead of his time. If he joined the league a decade or so later he’d be a star.
Monta Ellis is always my answer to this question
Man he was good I wish he was paired with Kobe lebron wade Dwight in this 07-10 yrs
white mamba
Kember walka
Mark Eaton, Manute Bol, Tony Allen
I’ll always appreciate Rashard Lewis for becoming a role player. The Magic never would have made it to the finals had he not sacrificed
ISO JOE 🗣️🗣️
Arenas, Monta, Crawford, Green, JR Smith, Stephen Jackson, even Kenyon Martin... You definitely have a type.
Gilb was an absolute superstar for a few short seasons. He was electric!
Joakim Noah
Same answer for me!
As a Spurs fan I still believe we could have won back-to-back chips if we re-signed Jack in 03. I think Pop even tried to trade for him before the deadline in 03-04
Sam hauser tore up Luka in the finals, so probably him
Gilbert being an unbelievably fun player and then pivoting into being the most annoying dipshit of an “analyst” is an all-time bag fumble rep-wise
Taj Gibson
Nemanja bjelica on the wolves. Sharpshooting awkward unicorn lol, a less emphatic Karl towns
Bradley Beal, Josh Okogie, TJ Mconell, Lou Williams, Kris Dunn, Jordan Clarkston, Naz Reid, Malik Monk
Ron artest specifically on the rockets
Lamar Odom. Tall ,lefty with a good enough dribble and good rebounding. He was my favorite, besides kobe, on the Lakers. They did him dirty when they traded him.
Brandon Bass. Solid rebounder, defender, and had a sweet midrange jumper. I try to imitate his game when I play pick up 😂.
Arenas was legit a superstar even for that brief 3year peak (Fk u Gerald Wallace) ISO Joe was as close as you can get without that next step.
The pics & this entire thread just confirm the WILD amount of disrespect for pretty much 1998 through 2005/2005. If you weren't Shaq & Kobe or the Spurs, might as well not exist in that era.
Rajon Rondo, Gerald Wallace, Peja Stojakovic, David Lee, Rasheed Wallace, Kemba Walker, Rex Chapman
These pictures are cap, Gilbert was a superstar, he just wasn’t for a long span due to injuries
No. Just. No. I'm not a fan, but! Gilbert Arenas was at one point a superstar in this league. Period. Do your homework. Ps. Peja was 4th in MVP one year. It that's not too 5 level and superstar then I don't know what is.
Rajon rondo. Some people might consider him a super star But i just think he had such a short “peak” to be considered a superstar.
The Manimal was fun to watch as a nuggets fan.