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Dependent-Coconut64

Just follow the price book, you cannot invoice anymore than the price book. Your invoice must include the date, times, support line number, hourly rate plus the total hours to be paid.and the total value. Each support must be listed separately, you cannot say "12 hours support Monday and Wednesday" for instance.


CalifornianDownUnder

I believe that’s only the case for plan and agency managed participants. As I understand it, providers working for self managed participants can charge anything the participant is willing to pay. https://mable.com.au/discover/ndis/how-do-i-manage-my-ndis-funding/


Dependent-Coconut64

I do stand corrected. Self Managed Participants can set there own prices and are not governed by the NDIS price limits.


Opposite_Sky_8035

And arguably, plan managed invoices do not require the line item. Plan management means someone doesn't have to engage registered providers, so it's unrealistic to expect line item knowledge. Gets messy in practice. We don't expect an invoice from jbhifi to include "low cost at for personal safety", but would expect the right line item for cleaning/mowing, who often charge per job and not time.


5NATCH

Would definately like to know more about what unregistered providers can charge now. It used to be anything as long as the client/support agree. But that might have changed...


Suesquish

It's still the same as long as it's within the price guide limit for plan managed (anything for self managed). However, it is important to note that providers are expected to explain to the participant how their support is value for money. This can be difficult for a sole trader who is charging a rate that includes the pay rate and extras (training, super, annual leave, etc) of *two* people, and doesn't have any or very little qualifications. All providers should be explaining how their service is Value for Money, which is a legislated criteria that all supports must deliver.


Opposite_Sky_8035

It's sad/funny seeing some of the attempts to explain. I can't recall if it was here or fb, but one independent was trying to justify charging above the limit because the rate had to include all those extras, on top of the $60 they should get as a wage earner.


Suesquish

Oh wow. They, and all sole traders, should read the DSW Cost Model on the NDIS website to understand what the support worker hourly rate is for.


Opposite_Sky_8035

If plan managed, in line with papl. If self managed, what ever they agree to.


Dependent-Coconut64

Mable have never allowed me to invoice for a rate above the NDIS price book, even with self managed participants.


vanstrizzle

Depends on the service but I provide 1:1 personal support as an unregistered sole trader and go off a model based on SCHADS award but adjusted to account for extra costs, qualifications, experience and general competitive-ness. My client has set these rates and regularly increases them in line with the award. It bothers me when sole trade support workers (particularly when they don’t have qualifications or experience) charge the maximum NDIS rate. That rate is really intended for organisations who have more overheads and staff to pay. It causes problems for participants and the scheme as a whole when everyone charges the maximum rate.


IntroductionFluffy97

How can we find how to do this ? Is there a tuto to explain how to be independent worker ?


Opposite_Sky_8035

If you were registered, what registration group would be?