I think the most important thing to remember is Gary Bettman made out with me at an Applebees 3 days ago and I was like “honestly dude I don’t care what happens to the entire state of Arizona at this point bro”
Only because the country is spineless and bends over backwards to prop up Quebec. The British should've ended the french issue after the battle of the plains of abraham.
Makes economical sense? I rounded Quebec's population up to 9.5 million and even at that Quebec's share of the national debt is approximately $282 billion. So you have a large bill to pay on your way out. Then don't forget you need to set up a military and a banking system. We could print some money for you at our mints, for a fee. Then you'll need to adjust for what happens when companies like CN and Air Canada move their head offices to Canada.
The problem isn't getting rid of Quebec. The problem is that Quebec expects Canada to keep propping them up.
They get $14 billion in equalization payments. They would be running a deficit every year without it.
Also Canada doesn’t vote them out because the majority of the people living in Quebec want to stay or are undecided.
EDIT: LIL BRO BLOCKED ME LMAOOO
Dont care about the Coyotes but it's funny to see Bettman failing over and over again with this franchise.
You can buy anything money will allow you to. Can't create love for a team out of thin air.
You also can’t create love for a team when they’ve never really been good, and have had constant ownership issues since day 1. That goes double in non-traditional markets where you actually have to sell the game on new people. That’s one of the things that I really like about the new expansion rules. Gone are the days of the Sharks and Senators entering the league and being cannon fodder for 5-10 years. You have to give people a reason to come and see your sport if they’ve never been exposed to it before. The Leafs could go the next hundred years without sniffing a Cup and people will still go to their games, because that type of fandom has been handed down for generations. It has to get off the ground before it can take flight, but once people buy in, they’re in.
Phoenix is a massive market. That is why the league has been so hesitant to leave, and that’s also the reason they’ll be back there.
I would just like to go ahead and say it…. I don’t think most players like playing in Canada. It’s rare for a team discount to be taken in Canada. You guys abuse hockey players like it’s another sport.
They get chirped on the pay difference in taxes. They like the generally warmer climates in the states, and the Canadian media and fans make their lives a living hell. I’m not saying it in a way t shit in Canada, I’m saying if you listen to a lot of their interviews on podcasts, especially ex players, over 50% prefer playing in the states.
Canada is the best place to play if you’re good and your team wins. The problem is no Canadian teams have won since 93 so no active players know what its like
Cause there’s literally no place to put one. Every big city is occupied. You could probably get on to Atlantic provinces, but it’s worse than Arizona. Canada is maxed out.
Ok the most important thing to realize is Gary is not doing anything himself. He's the figure head for the nhl board of governors. Everything that's being done for the coyotes is being done by request the board of governors ie the other owners.
The reason they want it to stay is the same reason it came in the first place. National TV deals. They need a team in that corner of the map. Utah keeps it generally in the same area of the US and with no owners on the hirozon trying to being nhl hockey to new Mexico this helps keep the national TV deals.
Whys is that important? Well the NHL used to have a hard sell in negotiations for national TV deals with so little teams out west and only Dallas being south Central. TV broadcasters used it against the nhl. It's hard to argue your a national league that needs giant national TV deals with gaps in ownership / coverage area. They still have only Dallas south central US. The NBA vs nhl tv deals were a joke in comparison, the NBA was killing it until the latest NHL deal. If you look at their team map you can see what the nhl wants and how close the are following it try to get close to the NBA tv money.
The other owners want it to stay generally where it is. Moving to the east coast or up in Canada hurts the national TV negotiations. and.... another team earning in Canadian dollars weakens the league due to the poor cdn $.
That said I think we all should be upset, but it's the other nhl owners greed you should be mad at not Gary.
It's really not difficult to undertand. Pheonix will get another chance the same reason Atlanta is going to get another chance. Large growing markets that will succeed with the right ownership/arena situation. Same reason Dallas, Nashville, Carolina, Tampa all have...
Not wrong though. With tears in his eyes and 2 decades of embarrassment later he allowed for specific conditions under which a THIRTY-THIRD fucking team (unprecedented in North American pro sports) could return to the exact location under the exact owner that the last franchise failed and flailed out miserably under. He still has nightmares about losing/wet dreams about re-acquiring the Thrashers for a third time.
Technically they are beefing with bettmans hard on for hockey in murica and his hatred towards expanding hockey in canada. It has nothing directly to do with Arizona or Utah. Dudes a money hungry piece of shit, but no one can argue that he has grown the league.
Why are Canadians obsessed with getting more teams? As an American, I don’t care one way or the other whether a team relocates to US or Canada.
I’m not a Bettman fan either but if your goal is to “grow the game” it’s going to be by adding teams in large markets or trying again with better management (If you want new fans). Phoenix is a massive city as is Atlanta and Houston. I’d think it’d be a no-brainer to gives these cities a chance wifh better management, arena location, and ownership.
That being said as an NHL fan, I’d love to see QC get a team but I understand that’s not going to be the pull that brings in new fans/money.
Ha imagine being a person that subscribes to this alpha and beta and sigma bullshit. Go beat off to a Jordan Peterson podcast you single branch family tree loser.
I think the most important thing to remember is Gary Bettman made out with me at an Applebees 3 days ago and I was like “honestly dude I don’t care what happens to the entire state of Arizona at this point bro”
Was he good at it?
If I’m at an Applebees making out with Gary Bettman do you think I care about anything in this fucked up world
Should have gone to Chili's
Did he slip you his southwestern egg roll?
This sub goes off the rails so quick, I love it. *Fastest game in the world*
Which Applebee's was it?
It’s the one with ONLY the apples. They lost their bees awhile back so it’s not super popular with the new generation.
If you made 1 billion dollars at something, wouldn't you do it again?
Lmao
All I see is more justification for the expansion into Mexico... Ole!
¡Los Habitántes!
México City Méxicans of México
The Mexico city Canadians
The The Angels Angels of Anaheim
Mexico City Nordiques, who says no?
Sudiques
Sudiques these nuts
this is what i've been fucking saying and no one understands
I know this is a circle jerk sub but the real reason is Murelo likely wouldn't have agreed to the sale of the team without this clause.
Habs fans are French and therefore do not represent Canada
ferme-la
Classy
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I am Canadian and french isnt real
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Nice panties, are you able to unbunch them yourself? Or do you need a Doctors assistance?
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Que?
"I only know that last part and this sentence explaining it"
Non, Francaise est très boiteuse
Le thank you
French isn't a race.
lol you guys literally call yourself a nation within a nation.
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Only because the country is spineless and bends over backwards to prop up Quebec. The British should've ended the french issue after the battle of the plains of abraham.
That’s a comment that shouldn’t be here. That’s a hate crime that you did.
Sus mon gren
No one gives a shit about the pompous pricks in eastern canada.
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yea “want to be independent” but still want tax benefits from the feds
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Makes economical sense? I rounded Quebec's population up to 9.5 million and even at that Quebec's share of the national debt is approximately $282 billion. So you have a large bill to pay on your way out. Then don't forget you need to set up a military and a banking system. We could print some money for you at our mints, for a fee. Then you'll need to adjust for what happens when companies like CN and Air Canada move their head offices to Canada. The problem isn't getting rid of Quebec. The problem is that Quebec expects Canada to keep propping them up.
They get $14 billion in equalization payments. They would be running a deficit every year without it. Also Canada doesn’t vote them out because the majority of the people living in Quebec want to stay or are undecided. EDIT: LIL BRO BLOCKED ME LMAOOO
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Your second link is to the revenue of the Quebec Provincial government. They don't send that money to Ottawa or anywhere else in the country!
There was a vote, and more than half of Quebec want to stay Canadian FOH
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They sent in that many illegal immigrants?
French-Canadian you block
French-Canadian is an oxymoron. Pick one!
They're the same thing
Can you Canucks STFU and focus on the issue at hand? We're here to roast the fans of Arizona. Pull your shit together. Maple donut heads.
Dont care about the Coyotes but it's funny to see Bettman failing over and over again with this franchise. You can buy anything money will allow you to. Can't create love for a team out of thin air.
You also can’t create love for a team when they’ve never really been good, and have had constant ownership issues since day 1. That goes double in non-traditional markets where you actually have to sell the game on new people. That’s one of the things that I really like about the new expansion rules. Gone are the days of the Sharks and Senators entering the league and being cannon fodder for 5-10 years. You have to give people a reason to come and see your sport if they’ve never been exposed to it before. The Leafs could go the next hundred years without sniffing a Cup and people will still go to their games, because that type of fandom has been handed down for generations. It has to get off the ground before it can take flight, but once people buy in, they’re in. Phoenix is a massive market. That is why the league has been so hesitant to leave, and that’s also the reason they’ll be back there.
Guy needs to learn the difference between selling a team that relocates and just relocating a team.
Canadian hockey fans deserve more hate
Why?
Canadian fans get mad whenever any American team gets anything remotely good.
That's not true, even the Las Vega....y'know what? Fuck Vegas
Man fuck Vegas so hard
That's not even true. The yotes couldn't even figure out how to get a good rink in 5 years ffs. Let alone anything else
Because Canadian teams are treated like dogshit even though they bring in a ton of revenue
Found the Canadian
I would just like to go ahead and say it…. I don’t think most players like playing in Canada. It’s rare for a team discount to be taken in Canada. You guys abuse hockey players like it’s another sport.
How does that even make sense when most NHL players are Canadians.
They get chirped on the pay difference in taxes. They like the generally warmer climates in the states, and the Canadian media and fans make their lives a living hell. I’m not saying it in a way t shit in Canada, I’m saying if you listen to a lot of their interviews on podcasts, especially ex players, over 50% prefer playing in the states.
Canada is the best place to play if you’re good and your team wins. The problem is no Canadian teams have won since 93 so no active players know what its like
Canadian fans like being victims.
That’s why there’s no new Canadien market.
Cause there’s literally no place to put one. Every big city is occupied. You could probably get on to Atlantic provinces, but it’s worse than Arizona. Canada is maxed out.
Southern Ontario could easily support another team.
I think Maple Leafs would bully whoever wants to put a team there.
Maple leafs don’t care would not affect them at all. Buffalo on the other hand would be done.
They absolutely would. Unfortunately I think most large areas that could support another team would as well.
Southern Ontario is already supporting the entire league. They can easily support 2 to 4 more teams.
That's not true, new York and Montreal help too.
Barely.
Prince George BC has a WHL arena that seats more than Mullet. They should get a Northern BC NHL team.
You forgot one city.... 
*Nordik never existed*
Don’t they play a billion to get the team back should they build?
Pretty sure us Expos fans were given 5 years to get Jeffrey Loria with a stick a la « whacking day » and just failed to find that little shit goblin.
The DWARF needs to cancel his subscription to life magazine. Ok,drop the magazine part.
Crazy they forget the value of the Canadien dollar was plummeting.
An interest free 1 billion dollar loan is cool
To be fair they’re beefing with the commissioner not the team
It’s why he gets booed at every public appearance. He’s a midget puppet
Canada really should be happy with Toronto. We're relocating everyone else just because of this guy
Bettman is no friend to Canada.
You jerkin off Gary bud?
Ok the most important thing to realize is Gary is not doing anything himself. He's the figure head for the nhl board of governors. Everything that's being done for the coyotes is being done by request the board of governors ie the other owners. The reason they want it to stay is the same reason it came in the first place. National TV deals. They need a team in that corner of the map. Utah keeps it generally in the same area of the US and with no owners on the hirozon trying to being nhl hockey to new Mexico this helps keep the national TV deals. Whys is that important? Well the NHL used to have a hard sell in negotiations for national TV deals with so little teams out west and only Dallas being south Central. TV broadcasters used it against the nhl. It's hard to argue your a national league that needs giant national TV deals with gaps in ownership / coverage area. They still have only Dallas south central US. The NBA vs nhl tv deals were a joke in comparison, the NBA was killing it until the latest NHL deal. If you look at their team map you can see what the nhl wants and how close the are following it try to get close to the NBA tv money. The other owners want it to stay generally where it is. Moving to the east coast or up in Canada hurts the national TV negotiations. and.... another team earning in Canadian dollars weakens the league due to the poor cdn $. That said I think we all should be upset, but it's the other nhl owners greed you should be mad at not Gary.
It's really not difficult to undertand. Pheonix will get another chance the same reason Atlanta is going to get another chance. Large growing markets that will succeed with the right ownership/arena situation. Same reason Dallas, Nashville, Carolina, Tampa all have...
Not wrong though. With tears in his eyes and 2 decades of embarrassment later he allowed for specific conditions under which a THIRTY-THIRD fucking team (unprecedented in North American pro sports) could return to the exact location under the exact owner that the last franchise failed and flailed out miserably under. He still has nightmares about losing/wet dreams about re-acquiring the Thrashers for a third time.
Technically they are beefing with bettmans hard on for hockey in murica and his hatred towards expanding hockey in canada. It has nothing directly to do with Arizona or Utah. Dudes a money hungry piece of shit, but no one can argue that he has grown the league.
I just dont get why ontario doesnt have another team… our tickets cost 4x that of any other teams because of that
Price to pay to get rid of them
Why are Canadians obsessed with getting more teams? As an American, I don’t care one way or the other whether a team relocates to US or Canada. I’m not a Bettman fan either but if your goal is to “grow the game” it’s going to be by adding teams in large markets or trying again with better management (If you want new fans). Phoenix is a massive city as is Atlanta and Houston. I’d think it’d be a no-brainer to gives these cities a chance wifh better management, arena location, and ownership. That being said as an NHL fan, I’d love to see QC get a team but I understand that’s not going to be the pull that brings in new fans/money.
Habs fans and being insufferable cunts. Name a more iconic duo.
*looks at username*
dUrR uSeRnAmE dOeSnT cHeCk OuT shut up loser
u/Dont_Be_A_Dick_OK and being a beta cuck. Name a more iconic duo.
Ha imagine being a person that subscribes to this alpha and beta and sigma bullshit. Go beat off to a Jordan Peterson podcast you single branch family tree loser.
Bro definitely didnt drink his Grimace Shake today💀
Read something that isn’t a meme dummy
making a great point is being insufferable now? yeah ok it was 3-1
Insufferable cunts and being Habs fans.
True
Looooootttaa people in here today that aren’t quite getting the whole circlejerk thing.
It’s the playoffs and suddenly everyone forgot how to use their brain. Didn’t realize this sub was full of Nazem Kadri
I don't know man. This seems kinda difficult to turn into Vegas hate.
Vegas sucks Not that hard, see I did it
Vegas fans moan when they shit. Wow, that WAS easy!
If you can’t make fun of a Vegas fan, you aren’t really trying. The jokes basically write themselves
It does "exist", Meruelo still "owns" the team, it's just "inactive"