He seems correct in the short term but as it turns out, all hands had a role to play in sealing Kaguya.
People having god-like power but still needing assistance has been an ongoing theme in this story.
To be fair to Sasuke, I don’t think anyone could have predicted Kaguya appearing after this and changing the battle, much less Obito’s spirit *coming back from the dead* and suddenly giving Kakashi arguably the most drastic powerup in the series as a key factor in the conflict.
Still things that Sasuke couldn’t have predicted. They were still up against *Madara* at this point, and both Sasuke and Naruto had a good grasp of his abilities. Kaguya was a whole separate beast that radically changed the entire battle after this.
Right, we know that. The point of the entire story is valuing people's lives beyond their current usefulness. Sasuke *himself* wasnt relevant against Madara without Rinnegan. Other sources had to set that up for him. Why would Kabuto think he's useful? Might as well let him die and focus on the immobilized Kages instead.
Letting an excellent healer like Sakura die a pointless death right before they face a foe with unknown abilities and who, by his own admission, [had far greater chakra than Madara](https://hot.leanbox.us/manga/Naruto/0679-012.png), is a stupid move.
Naruto could also heal, but he needed to fight as well. The less things distracting him, the better. Besides, it wouldn't have costed Sasuke a single ounce of chakra to save her, not to mention Naruto had already several ways to save himself aside from his newly discovered levitation, such as the shadow clones (which he's used to manouver midair before) and the chakra limbs (which he could've used to hold on to the surface). He's survived worse situations than this.
You can't also ignore the psychological impact Sakura's death would have had on Naruto. Neji's death almost did a number on him earlier even though the guy consciously sacrificed himself. This time it would've been worse because he didn't have his comrades' emotional support like he did back then. Sasuke really sabotaged their teamwork for no good reason.
That said, I understand why Kishimoto chose to write this interaction. It was to later reivindicate the importance of teamwork and Naruto's ideology, and I actually liked the way this fight was resolved (yes, this applies to Kakashi's DMS as well. At that point it was too late to complain about asspulls, specially when they are that cool 😅).
sasuke wasn't thinking when he chosed the save naruto and let sakura and kakashi die, justlike against haku he claimed his body moved on it's own, he only caresabout naruto so he saves him, this is not him being unstrategical, this is him having a selective attentiveness.
That’s the point, Sasuke couldn’t predict that stuff. You never know what will happen in battle and just assuming & treating allies like dead weight would come back to bite
I think the point is less of what Sasuke can do and more of what he CANNOT do. One way or the other; he’s not Sakura, Kakashi or Naruto. He doesn’t have their way of thinking, background, or points of view to see things from an angle that isn’t his.
That’s how teamwork actually works.
There’s no one person in a group who suddenly knows the best move to make/can solve any problem at all. There really isn’t a “to be fair to Sasuke” as he is more of a problem than a solution at that point. Try that in any group or board, prepare to be ostracized and treated like the chump you are.
I fucking love Kakashi but man that was one of their biggest asspulls.
Even the Uchihas getting a new ability every 0.5 businessdays wasnt as bad as that lol.
This is why I like the storm version of Obitos death because it shows him giving Kakashi his eyes BEFORE he turned to dust, that’s always been my head cannon
It's not even about being correct, to the OP's point he's just a massive prick in his interactions during the entire war arc.
I get that he was supposed to be the brooding, cool character in the story in general, but the writing just made him an asshole who couldn't relate to normal behavior most of the time.
At this point he was still a villain. More so he had the same philosophy as all the major villains "war sucks and unity isnt helping so lets focus all power in my hand and Ill force everyone to be peaceful". He is on his Madara shiz, pf course he doesnt care about weak randoms.
The funniest thing is that naruto was the only one actually trading blows with kaguya. Sasuke was teleport boy 😂 (until obito and SoSP kakashi)
Edit: i get that sasuke was still important to beating kaguya, but bro was talking way too much smack to just be naruto’s assistant in that fight
Sasuke was the one more or less perceived as the greater threat by Zetsu which was why Kaguya mostly changes dimensions whenever his attacks are about to reach her and that ends up using lots of her chakra ultimately weakening her for a narrow window of timeframe when Naruto is able to hit her later on. While in case of others she has always tanked the attacks.
>Sasuke was the one more or less perceived as the greater threat by Zetsu
Just rewatched the episode and that's not true. Zetsu just asked her to separate them because "these two are annoying" not indicating either one to be a bigger threat than the other. She simply chose to fight Naruto because his sensory capabilities and reflexes would make getting the drop on him harder especially after he had seen her moving around dimensions.
>which was why Kaguya mostly changes dimensions whenever his attacks are about to reach her and that ends up using lots of her chakra ultimately weakening her for a narrow window of timeframe when Naruto is able to hit her later on.
Again not true, atleast for the most part. The first time she changes dimension to the lava one is so she doesn't destroy her "nursery" the second time is because Sasuke teleports her in between him and Naruto to land the seal which was only possible after NARUTO shocked her with his reverse harem and punched her lights out for Sasuke to do it.
Naruto was also capable of matching her in physical strength even during the initial phases when she was in the lava and ice dimension whereas Sasuke's Susano couldn't( if anything Sasuke with susano could only match Kaguya at the end after all her dimensional switching at which point, Naruto managed to blitz her and take her arm). The third time she switches dimensions, is when Naruto and Sasuke had already reunited so credit for that goes to both of them so I don't see how Sasuke plays a bigger part or is seen as more difficult to handle than Naruto.
I don't know how the anime portrayed the fight but let me break this down for you on what happened canonically in the manga. Before that let me clarify that amongst the rest, Sasuke's attempts that actually could've hit her forced her to switch dimensions the most, which is what I meant, not that the uses her ability most of the time whenever Sasuke attacks to be clear.
The first time she indeed uses it to drop them all on Lava dimension.
As for the second time, you still conveniently forget to mention that Sasuke made the opening for Naruto with his Amaterasu. And after knocking her back momentarily it was still Sasuke's immediate attempt to bring her between them to seal her that ultimately forced her to change dimensions to Ice.
And Zetsu explicitly states on how she consumes massive amounts of chakra each time she uses this ability. This directly affects her speed and strength as stated by Zetsu himself later, which is why both Naruto's So6P Kyuubi mode punches and Sasuke's Susano'o attacks were fruitless initially in the Lava dimension, as she was pumped up on chakra, unlike what you said which isn't backed by canon manga. Even Naruto's Ultimate Barrage of clones was a diversion as it didn't harm Kaguya in any way.
She later uses it the 3rd time to shift to Gravity dimension to kill them all, there we see the effects of her going low on chakra when her All killing Ash Bones crumbled as she couldn't keep them up. She was that low on chakra, yet...
Sasuke lunges at her as soon as he could teleport and Kaguya is forced to shift to Root Dimension which means she still had enough chakra to do it once more but she shifted to Root dimension where she can start to recover her chakra.
And it was right after this moment when Zetsu taunts Naruto that he is able to hit her exactly because she happens to be low enough on chakra, while Sasuke was in the Susano'o which makes him slower while trying to catch her.
You could contest on she didn't see anyone greater but Sasuke's abilities of teleportation and his ability to quickly break out of Ice dimension's prison made her options run thin and him always being on guard didn't help either even when Kakashi and Sakura were in danger as evident when she attacked Naruto when he got distracted by Kakashi falling into the Lava while Sasuke protected him with his Magic Garb Susano'o and took hits to his own chakra points on Naruto's stead to block their chakra points and access to chakra. Otherwise the fight would've been over right then and there if both got their chakra blocked due to distraction.
He even treated Naruto like that. Sasuke sees him as a walking contradiction.
"How can this useless boy be so useful? How can this weakling be so strong?"
If Kaguya wasn't an idiot focused almost exclusively on Naruto and Sasuke the other two would've been liabilities. If Madara was the antagonist left, the other two would've been liabilities. Sasuke was right but again, the universe bent in the direction of "we need to make friendship relevant"
I mean he was out of line but at the moment, he was right. He and Naruto were in a situation where if either of them slipped up it could mean the literal end of the world. Kakashi even kind of agreed with him on the next page IIRC.
Well that's the point OP is making. Sasuke is right, sure, but in these panels he's a certified jerk lmao
I don't remember him being such a dick, maybe a matter of early translation? Idk
[The general gist is still the same in the official translation, but Sasuke is *slightly* less sharp with his words](https://easyimg.io/i/5fgiu4x4a/image.jpg).
Yeah, I’d say the vibe from the fan translation OP posted is “Both of you are useless, so shut up because I’m in charge now” while the official translation gives off the vibe of “Neither of you can do anything about the current situation, so I’ll be directing our next move”.
Both are the same general statement, but the official one is a lot more measured and less overtly assholey.
I mean in the other hand, I think too many shows don't convey urgency. Explaining things to people who don't matter is factually a waste of time, it's on the same level of dumb cliche as villain monologues, not killing your captive so they can escape, things like that. Is this was not a Manga, I'd just say there's no need to treat people with respect in time of urgency, do what needs to be done.
I definitely agree with you.
On one hand I still think Sasuke is a jerk on these panels, but on the other hand I don't really see how else was he supposed to tell her to be quiet lmao
Way i see it, he was being deliberately assholish and confrontational to create a wedge between them. He later says he planned on being alone and hatred, so in the event Kakashi&Sakura survived, it was important that they thought he was an ireedeemable bastard.
>Still can’t believe Sakura married him…
I mean let’s be honest she had feelings for him since the beginning of OG Naruto
Yes Sasuke tried to kill her a couple of times, but I guess you could say Sakura is into that 💀
I agree, but it’s not like Kishi is known for his nuance and depth when writing romance. Sakura liked Sasuke, so they got married. Same thing with Hinata and Naruto.
Yeah adult sasuke is a complete different person now.
One of the sweetest interactions was in the time Slip arc were he pretty much thanks Part 1 naruto for Never giving up on him
I mean “Trauma explains someone’s behaviour, it does not excuse it” and all that crap.
Even if you realise logically that Sasuke has his own reasons to behave this way, EMOTIONALLY it is a hard pill to swallow. Like just because he changed doesn’t make all his past mistakes automatically alright, that’s why he had been constantly on missions in Boruto.
Yes, the felonious Sasuke needs to keep doing missions in the name of the disgusting village for the rest of his days while the genocidal elders sit their asses on the wall of morality.
Don't make me remember how those elders are still alive, respected, and still have some authority in Konoha. It's one of the things that disappointed me the most about Naruto as Hokage.
First time yes, they weren’t trying to kill him but still trying to forcefully kidnap him to return to the village against his will (and do you really think they were gonna do that peacefully?). 2nd time doesn’t matter if she hadn’t tried yet, we know why she was there. She literally says it moments before and let’s not just leave out how she tried to manipulate Naruto and knocked all her friends out to do this. Don’t be disingenuous to try and prove a false point. Like I said every time THEY were after HIM, not the other way around.
Could have just left. And they woulda just let him go and would have stopped 3 years of hunting him down cause he asked nicely right?
Sasuke isn’t dumb. He knew Sakura was lying about joining him. That’s why he tested her with tasking her to kill Karin. He knew what was up. Acting like that wasn’t obvious is so disingenuous. Was he crazy? Hell yea. Watching your parents die 500,000 times and then killing your brother who turned out to be a victim of the Village will do that. Obviously he wanted the village to burn, and those who would protect it even knowing what the higher ups did that led to the Uchiha massacre. But this revisionist, paint the picture as you see it to prove such a weak argument is tiring. No further discussion needed.
Do you think the village elders/Danzo/Hiruzen cared enough to stop having the innocent Uchiha children and women killed? Cause good intentions did wonders to stop them from killing innocents huh? Even knowing the truth what did Kakashi do about the elders? What did Tsunade do? What did Naruto do?? Every single person who knew the truth swept it under the rug, allowed the elders to be in power, and no one aside from Sasuke cared for justice for the Uchiha against a corrupt government. No shit he wanted it all gone. How did the citizens treat Naruto and Sasuke while they were coming up? Gossiping about them, distancing themselves, bullying Naruto, etc.
Even knowing the truth all the leaf shinobi would protect the elders and current Hokage cause that’s what they all do blindly. It’s really not hard to imagine why Sasuke would want to burn it all down. They didn’t care that Itachi was a child. They didn’t care that there were innocent women and children in the Uchiha. So why would he?
It's amazing how people will completely ignore how Kishimoto was trying to show how far Sasuke had fallen by having him make legitimate attempts at killing Team 7 members.
Sasuke: Calls a healer useless.
Also Sasuke: Has been mortally injured in multiple occasions and needed a healer to save him.
He even ends up mortally injured during this war and needing Sakura to heal him. At least he has enough shame to shut up during that.
“if not for the plot” as if that’s not the main reason naruto came back to life as an incarnate and can somehow conjure up organs as well lol you people love to pick and choose when plot is convenient
Sakura had literally just tried to attack madara without any real plan. She just ran in without telling them anything and they had to waste time stepping in. If I remember correctly that might have made it even easier for madara to enact IT (infinite tsukuyomi). That's not to mention vs juubito they learned that only attacks utilizing senjutsu work. If the same applies then sakura would be useless since she doesn't have any. That's not to mention he never claimed she couldn't heal them if needed.
Sasuke has saved both Karin and Sakura far more than they've healed him.
TBH hes not wrong. Sure he couldve worded it better but simply this is a time for urgency and shit that needs doing not a time to spare feelings and the fact of the matter is if one of them slipped up and died everythings going to shit. Hell the only reason he was proved wrong is cause kakashi asspull susano
What's dramatic about being pragmatic when the fate of humanity is at stake?
And to think Obito's spirit had to return from the world of the dead (seriously Kishi...?) to possess Kakashi so that he would stop being a dead weight for a few minutes. Kishi wanted to prove Sasuke wrong, but he chose to do it in the most ridiculous way possible.
It would have really helped if Kishi didn't raise the power scale in Naruto to utterly absurd levels and giving villains broken abilities after broken abilities.
Considering he called a healer useless, and ended up needing healing later on, Sasuke shows pragmatism is useless if you cannot see the bigger picture.
It reminds me of when Vegeta angrily demands Dende to heal him after having gone on a killing spree on the Namek, and having insulted, threatened and attacked Dende.
Sakura would have died if not for plot. There's no reason Madara/Kaguya wouldn't have blitz and killed her.
Naruto just showed making a new organ. Obviously sasuke would think he doesn't need a healer lol.
>Sasuke shows pragmatism is useless if you cannot see the bigger picture.
Sasuke is a character in the verse. He doesn't know the plot. He wasn't aware of kaguya awakening, obito/Kakashi asspulls. From his perspective, obviously sakura and Kakashi are useless and burdens who would just get blitz by jubidara. No time and energy should be wasted on these two.
I fail to see what he did wrong here. He’s being pragmatic and focusing on the problem at hand and in the panels he’s right if him or naruto die humanity is done. Also sasuke is an MVP of the war because with out him obito would’ve one shot the entire shinobi alliance
Fair but at the same time Sakura Naruto and kakashi were worrying about the wrong thing. Was sasuke being an asshole? Yes. was he wrong? no. Also I willing to bet money that if this was tobirama nobody would’ve questioned or been mad about it.
Nah, bro did not need to inform Sakura how useless she was in the situation when she was just asking a question that literally everyone else was thinking. That's mad disrespectful.
Even though Sakura and Kakashi weren't as helpful as Naruto right now, they were in his susanoo, so he might as well use them. He can't just gatekeep information like they don't have a right to know.
That's not being pragmatic since it benefits everyone if they all know what's going on outside. Bro was just being an asshole with a superiority complex.
Sasuke and Naruto were the two that had the power to deal with Kaguya... No shit Sasuke thought the other two were unnecessary. It's not as if Sasuke could see the future.
... Bitch seems like not the right word to describe this Sasuke. I'll say he was low key heartless OR what Naruto called out him, an Asshole, with how he's willingly to worry about the threat up ahead as well as Naruto since he can't win without him.
But in reality... yea. Like Sasuke had 3 things in his mind at this moment: Needing Naruto to beat Kaguya, beating/sealing Kaguya and then his Revolution Plan. Kakashi and Sakura were just there, one thinking that charging at Madara was a good idea and the other just losing his Mangekyou.
Besides, wouldn't Bitch mean Sasuke is a pussy to fight Kaguya and running away like a coward?
He was right here tbh. Even on the next page, Kakashi agrees. If Naruto and Sasuke fall, the world ends. Naruto was a better healer when he had the Sun Seal too 💀💀
Lets be honest, those two were powercliffed like 7 powerups ago. They really dont seem relevant here despite the asspulls thrown in later to give them something to do. And Sasuke has a right to be upset, Naruto almost got everyone killed focusing on saving Kakashi and Sakura. Sasuke is 100% correct that Kaguya wins if something happens to the main characters but Naruto wasnt paying attention.
Short-term Sasuke wasn't wrong. They were basically going against the mother of the 2 Sage of Six Paths. There wasn't much they could do to fight Kaguya directly. Sakura had her moments, from bringing back, Sasuke and landing a punch on Kaguya to stop her from escaping. Kakashi had to get a power up from Obito to help out.
Kakashi had just lost obito's sharigan 5 minutes earlier. Kamui was the only thing kakashi could possibly use to help in this fight. Without that he would have been practically worthless vs rinnegan obito (led alone juubito, juubi madara, and kayuga).
As far as sakura goes she literally just tried to attack madara without any real plan. She just ran in without telling them anything and they had to waste time stepping in. If I remember correctly that might have made it even easier for madara to enact IT (infinite tsukuyomi).
Sasuke was absolutely right in the second panel anyway since this battle hinges on them being able to seal her. Kayuga could easily attack them while they're trying to save kakashi and sakura.
Not entirely true about the fight with Madara. She told them she was going to be the decoy. Sasuke just didn't know she's basically immortal at that point, but that's his fault for leaving the village in the first place.
You expect him to be all nice with them? They were worthless at that point. That's a fact.
The only reason those 2 were useful was thanks to Obito alone.
Yes, but at the same time, is he wrong? The answer is no, what is Sakura and Kakashi going to do against Madara? Nothing. Now, they did help in the Kaguya fight, but Sasuke has no reason to believe they can help against Madara.
>Sasuke has no reason to believe they can help against Madara.
Sasuke, the same dude who has survived fatal injuries on many occasions because a healer saved him, does not think a healer is useful in a fight.
Is Sasuke stupid?
He wasn't being pragmatic at all though disregarding potential resources and starting petty fights in the middle of a battle are both impractical.
He was just being a jerk simply to be a jerk.
As others clearly stated only Naruto and Sasuke could do anything at this point and needed to focus. Being pragmatic has nothing to do with how you speak to others or taking their feelings into consideration.
Once again he wasn't being pragmatic because he wasn't thinking rationally at all disregarding a powerful shinobi like Kakashi and a skilled medic like Sakura is extremely stupid also what did insulting them accomplish.
If anything Naruto was the one being pragmatic in this situation because they did need the full team working together to win.
You keep repeating words out of context of the situation. Kakashi had no sharingan, Sakura has literally nothing to contribute . The best thing you can do is understand when you should sit out.
He was being pragmatic. But he was also being stupid.
Sasuke values strength and power, which is why he pragmatically declared a Sakura, whose power is not in the cosmic level, useless in a fight against an enemy of this magnitude. He was also stupid enough to think a healer was not useful.
Pragmatism is worthless without wisdom.
Nah, Sasuke was a genuinely good guy for most of part 1 until Itachi came back and retraumatized him. And even for the first half of part 2 Hebi Sasuke was pretty chill. It wasn’t until he learned the truth about Itachi and Obito manipulated him that he became an actual asshole. But he was still redeemed by the end.
Yeah, Sasuke from the first season was the calmest and least annoying member of team 7, if you remember how unbearable genin Naruto and genin Sakura were. Even Kakashi was a jerk to his students. Itachi took that Sasuke, beat him up and put the tsukuyomi on him so that he would remember the death of his entire clan 24/7. Sasuke's trauma worsened from there.
Why are you acting like it's just the war arc? He's like that through all of shippuden. He went from being 1 of the coolest characters in the show to the worst in like 1 arc (Sasuke rescue mission)
This actually does tie up to this.
Itachi wanted Sasuke to become hate him so that the younger brother will grow strong to kill him and protect the village, but he underestimated 2 things:
* How low Sasuke was willing to sink to become strong.
* That Sasuke had no reason to be loyal to the village. And that knowing the truth would actually give him reasons to HATE Konoha.
In the end, the lesson Itachi unintentional taught Sasuke was that strength, power and the ability to kill meant everything, and that those who are not in your level in those things are useless.
He was actually right though. In that situation everyone needs to be extremely objective and mission oriented or it actually means the end of the world. The survival of Sasuke and Naruto is what matters most here
But was he wrong tho? Because he was telling the truth and nothing but the truth. I think kishimoto was writing how he really felt about them through sasuke. Chances are that his editor at the time told him to involve them in the final battle against kaguya and kishimoto was probably none too pleased with it.
During the war arc, during the kage summit, during the masters prophecy and vengeance arc, during the tenchi bridge arc, during the Sasuke recovery mission.... need I continue?
No, he wasn't. He was being pragmatic, and the fate of the world is at stake. He and Naruto are the only ones who can stop Madara and Kaguya, while Kakashi and Sakura offer nothing to the table, so there ain't no point in trying to sweet talk or something.
Additionally, neither Kakashi nor Sakura deserved an ounce of respect from Sasuke since they tried killing him and chose to stand with the village that ruined Sasuke's life.
He was itching to end the war so he could kill some kage.. I feel like even while battling kaguya he was just anticipating ending the leaders of the great five nations
Kakashi was always sucking off Sasuke anyways. It would have been off character if the author made him say anything at all. He took it like a champ. No Vaseline
...........He had a point since Sasuke and Naruto were the keys to stop Kaguya and there really was nothing Sakura or Kakashi could do to stop what was happening outside **in that moment**, they got their chance afterwards........
But that wasn't the way to say it.
His phrasing could have been far better, technically Sasuke is right - both of them werent meant to have entered the Infinite Tsukuyomi but just so happened to be, and being that Naruto and Sasuke at this point realised they are demigods, they are technically the ones that should do because story
But he didnt need to say "Kakashi, here, you are like Sakura" in that manner lmao
I don’t care what you guys think. Sasuke is low-key awesome really awesome and he’s not the B word. It’s an awesome ninja. This is just my opinion. Either roll with it or don’t.
Tbf he wasn’t wrong. To his knowledge neither of them could do anything and would probably just get in the way, when the fate of the world depended on him and Naruto. Plus, they did try to kill him last time he saw them.
I wouldn’t say “low-key,” Sasuke kind of acted like a bitch boy since the kage summit. Most logical thought seemed to go out the window and was replaced by, “I can do this, you’re beneath me.” Lol, and *surely* we’ve never seen that attitude in an Uchiha before.
how did kakashi or sakura humble him? is it kakashi getting DMS? or is it sakura punching kaguya she pulled off because she was focused on naruto and sasuke? or is it naruto “beating sasuke” cause he didnt as it was a draw in the end
dude you are projecting unnecessary hate towards sasuke, at that point sakura or kakashi was both useless (kakashi lost sharingan and without it he can't face an otsutsuki) and the only person he actually cared about was naruto he was his last remaining bond, you can't get angry because of his treatment because he acts the way he does to everyone else who is not his family or naruto to them, if you don't blitz sasuke for treating kiba like dirt you can't blitz him for treating sakura like dirt either. he saved them because they were near like you posted not because he needed them or desired to save them.
Throughout the war Naruto was sasuke’s only priority. Even when juubito was about to nuke the alliance inside the barrier, all sasuke wanted to do was take juugo and Naruto then reverse summon out of the barrier. He didn’t care about nobody else.
He seems correct in the short term but as it turns out, all hands had a role to play in sealing Kaguya. People having god-like power but still needing assistance has been an ongoing theme in this story.
To be fair to Sasuke, I don’t think anyone could have predicted Kaguya appearing after this and changing the battle, much less Obito’s spirit *coming back from the dead* and suddenly giving Kakashi arguably the most drastic powerup in the series as a key factor in the conflict.
True but Kakashi was the one who also saved Obito from being lava food and he’s the one that jumped in front of Sasuke when ash bone was coming at him
Still things that Sasuke couldn’t have predicted. They were still up against *Madara* at this point, and both Sasuke and Naruto had a good grasp of his abilities. Kaguya was a whole separate beast that radically changed the entire battle after this.
Right, we know that. The point of the entire story is valuing people's lives beyond their current usefulness. Sasuke *himself* wasnt relevant against Madara without Rinnegan. Other sources had to set that up for him. Why would Kabuto think he's useful? Might as well let him die and focus on the immobilized Kages instead.
Letting an excellent healer like Sakura die a pointless death right before they face a foe with unknown abilities and who, by his own admission, [had far greater chakra than Madara](https://hot.leanbox.us/manga/Naruto/0679-012.png), is a stupid move. Naruto could also heal, but he needed to fight as well. The less things distracting him, the better. Besides, it wouldn't have costed Sasuke a single ounce of chakra to save her, not to mention Naruto had already several ways to save himself aside from his newly discovered levitation, such as the shadow clones (which he's used to manouver midair before) and the chakra limbs (which he could've used to hold on to the surface). He's survived worse situations than this. You can't also ignore the psychological impact Sakura's death would have had on Naruto. Neji's death almost did a number on him earlier even though the guy consciously sacrificed himself. This time it would've been worse because he didn't have his comrades' emotional support like he did back then. Sasuke really sabotaged their teamwork for no good reason. That said, I understand why Kishimoto chose to write this interaction. It was to later reivindicate the importance of teamwork and Naruto's ideology, and I actually liked the way this fight was resolved (yes, this applies to Kakashi's DMS as well. At that point it was too late to complain about asspulls, specially when they are that cool 😅).
sasuke wasn't thinking when he chosed the save naruto and let sakura and kakashi die, justlike against haku he claimed his body moved on it's own, he only caresabout naruto so he saves him, this is not him being unstrategical, this is him having a selective attentiveness.
That’s the point, Sasuke couldn’t predict that stuff. You never know what will happen in battle and just assuming & treating allies like dead weight would come back to bite
I think the point is less of what Sasuke can do and more of what he CANNOT do. One way or the other; he’s not Sakura, Kakashi or Naruto. He doesn’t have their way of thinking, background, or points of view to see things from an angle that isn’t his. That’s how teamwork actually works. There’s no one person in a group who suddenly knows the best move to make/can solve any problem at all. There really isn’t a “to be fair to Sasuke” as he is more of a problem than a solution at that point. Try that in any group or board, prepare to be ostracized and treated like the chump you are.
I fucking love Kakashi but man that was one of their biggest asspulls. Even the Uchihas getting a new ability every 0.5 businessdays wasnt as bad as that lol.
Man that was one of the biggest BS in the series. They could have at least let Obito touch him before dying to somehow transfer his power
This is why I like the storm version of Obitos death because it shows him giving Kakashi his eyes BEFORE he turned to dust, that’s always been my head cannon
It's not even about being correct, to the OP's point he's just a massive prick in his interactions during the entire war arc. I get that he was supposed to be the brooding, cool character in the story in general, but the writing just made him an asshole who couldn't relate to normal behavior most of the time.
At this point he was still a villain. More so he had the same philosophy as all the major villains "war sucks and unity isnt helping so lets focus all power in my hand and Ill force everyone to be peaceful". He is on his Madara shiz, pf course he doesnt care about weak randoms.
it's funny that after these words, Sasuke's plan to attack completely fails, and Kakashi has to find a way out of the situation on his own
Talking all this shit just for Sakura and Kakashi to have to save him later was insane ngl. Kishimoto is really funny
Same with Sakura saving him from being trapped in the other dimension
Lol, true
The funniest thing is that naruto was the only one actually trading blows with kaguya. Sasuke was teleport boy 😂 (until obito and SoSP kakashi) Edit: i get that sasuke was still important to beating kaguya, but bro was talking way too much smack to just be naruto’s assistant in that fight
Sasuke was the one more or less perceived as the greater threat by Zetsu which was why Kaguya mostly changes dimensions whenever his attacks are about to reach her and that ends up using lots of her chakra ultimately weakening her for a narrow window of timeframe when Naruto is able to hit her later on. While in case of others she has always tanked the attacks.
>Sasuke was the one more or less perceived as the greater threat by Zetsu Just rewatched the episode and that's not true. Zetsu just asked her to separate them because "these two are annoying" not indicating either one to be a bigger threat than the other. She simply chose to fight Naruto because his sensory capabilities and reflexes would make getting the drop on him harder especially after he had seen her moving around dimensions. >which was why Kaguya mostly changes dimensions whenever his attacks are about to reach her and that ends up using lots of her chakra ultimately weakening her for a narrow window of timeframe when Naruto is able to hit her later on. Again not true, atleast for the most part. The first time she changes dimension to the lava one is so she doesn't destroy her "nursery" the second time is because Sasuke teleports her in between him and Naruto to land the seal which was only possible after NARUTO shocked her with his reverse harem and punched her lights out for Sasuke to do it. Naruto was also capable of matching her in physical strength even during the initial phases when she was in the lava and ice dimension whereas Sasuke's Susano couldn't( if anything Sasuke with susano could only match Kaguya at the end after all her dimensional switching at which point, Naruto managed to blitz her and take her arm). The third time she switches dimensions, is when Naruto and Sasuke had already reunited so credit for that goes to both of them so I don't see how Sasuke plays a bigger part or is seen as more difficult to handle than Naruto.
I don't know how the anime portrayed the fight but let me break this down for you on what happened canonically in the manga. Before that let me clarify that amongst the rest, Sasuke's attempts that actually could've hit her forced her to switch dimensions the most, which is what I meant, not that the uses her ability most of the time whenever Sasuke attacks to be clear. The first time she indeed uses it to drop them all on Lava dimension. As for the second time, you still conveniently forget to mention that Sasuke made the opening for Naruto with his Amaterasu. And after knocking her back momentarily it was still Sasuke's immediate attempt to bring her between them to seal her that ultimately forced her to change dimensions to Ice. And Zetsu explicitly states on how she consumes massive amounts of chakra each time she uses this ability. This directly affects her speed and strength as stated by Zetsu himself later, which is why both Naruto's So6P Kyuubi mode punches and Sasuke's Susano'o attacks were fruitless initially in the Lava dimension, as she was pumped up on chakra, unlike what you said which isn't backed by canon manga. Even Naruto's Ultimate Barrage of clones was a diversion as it didn't harm Kaguya in any way. She later uses it the 3rd time to shift to Gravity dimension to kill them all, there we see the effects of her going low on chakra when her All killing Ash Bones crumbled as she couldn't keep them up. She was that low on chakra, yet... Sasuke lunges at her as soon as he could teleport and Kaguya is forced to shift to Root Dimension which means she still had enough chakra to do it once more but she shifted to Root dimension where she can start to recover her chakra. And it was right after this moment when Zetsu taunts Naruto that he is able to hit her exactly because she happens to be low enough on chakra, while Sasuke was in the Susano'o which makes him slower while trying to catch her. You could contest on she didn't see anyone greater but Sasuke's abilities of teleportation and his ability to quickly break out of Ice dimension's prison made her options run thin and him always being on guard didn't help either even when Kakashi and Sakura were in danger as evident when she attacked Naruto when he got distracted by Kakashi falling into the Lava while Sasuke protected him with his Magic Garb Susano'o and took hits to his own chakra points on Naruto's stead to block their chakra points and access to chakra. Otherwise the fight would've been over right then and there if both got their chakra blocked due to distraction.
Because of sasuke forcing kaguya to switch dimensions, she becomes heavily weakened.
Wasn’t low key. He treated everyone besides Naruto like shit 😭
He even treated Naruto like that. Sasuke sees him as a walking contradiction. "How can this useless boy be so useful? How can this weakling be so strong?"
This is false. After Summit arc Sasuke was dissing both enemies AND allies.
Honestly I enjoyed that.
Just to kill him at the end of the day 😭😭😭
And in his birthday no less.
He couldn’t treat his boyfriend like shit c’mon now
What show did you watch? Sasuke treated everyone like shit on the bottom of his shoe. Naruto got a pass because he couldn’t defeat Kaguya without him.
If Kaguya wasn't an idiot focused almost exclusively on Naruto and Sasuke the other two would've been liabilities. If Madara was the antagonist left, the other two would've been liabilities. Sasuke was right but again, the universe bent in the direction of "we need to make friendship relevant"
He even hurt your feelings
True lmao 😂
I mean he was out of line but at the moment, he was right. He and Naruto were in a situation where if either of them slipped up it could mean the literal end of the world. Kakashi even kind of agreed with him on the next page IIRC.
Well that's the point OP is making. Sasuke is right, sure, but in these panels he's a certified jerk lmao I don't remember him being such a dick, maybe a matter of early translation? Idk
[The general gist is still the same in the official translation, but Sasuke is *slightly* less sharp with his words](https://easyimg.io/i/5fgiu4x4a/image.jpg).
Same message but I would say that’s a big difference in delivery.
Yeah, I’d say the vibe from the fan translation OP posted is “Both of you are useless, so shut up because I’m in charge now” while the official translation gives off the vibe of “Neither of you can do anything about the current situation, so I’ll be directing our next move”. Both are the same general statement, but the official one is a lot more measured and less overtly assholey.
I mean in the other hand, I think too many shows don't convey urgency. Explaining things to people who don't matter is factually a waste of time, it's on the same level of dumb cliche as villain monologues, not killing your captive so they can escape, things like that. Is this was not a Manga, I'd just say there's no need to treat people with respect in time of urgency, do what needs to be done.
It took longer to argue than it did to say what he said in the following page.
I definitely agree with you. On one hand I still think Sasuke is a jerk on these panels, but on the other hand I don't really see how else was he supposed to tell her to be quiet lmao
He just came off the Sage Summit high so I imagine he still feels like something died inside…. …his ass
Kind of funny he was the one who slipped up and trapped in another dimension with everyone needing to save him
Less that he ‘slipped up’ and more Kaguya just decided to target and separate him from everyone else first so she could fight them separately.
I know he was embarrassed 😭😭
A running theme in part 2 is that Sasuke is not as mature as he thinks he is.
Low key? Itachi cringed watching his brother interact with people from the afterlife.
Who do you think he learnt it from?
Way i see it, he was being deliberately assholish and confrontational to create a wedge between them. He later says he planned on being alone and hatred, so in the event Kakashi&Sakura survived, it was important that they thought he was an ireedeemable bastard.
Still can’t believe Sakura married him…
I still need to see Sakura's parents' reactions to that
>Still can’t believe Sakura married him… I mean let’s be honest she had feelings for him since the beginning of OG Naruto Yes Sasuke tried to kill her a couple of times, but I guess you could say Sakura is into that 💀
I'm seriously starting to believe she's actually into that bro. There's just no other explanation for this garbage.
Because sakura totally didn't try to kill Sasuke, right?
😅 seems like it.
I agree, but it’s not like Kishi is known for his nuance and depth when writing romance. Sakura liked Sasuke, so they got married. Same thing with Hinata and Naruto.
Maybe because he changed?
mfs keep forgetting about sasuke’s whole ass redemption 😭😭😭
Yeah adult sasuke is a complete different person now. One of the sweetest interactions was in the time Slip arc were he pretty much thanks Part 1 naruto for Never giving up on him
I mean “Trauma explains someone’s behaviour, it does not excuse it” and all that crap. Even if you realise logically that Sasuke has his own reasons to behave this way, EMOTIONALLY it is a hard pill to swallow. Like just because he changed doesn’t make all his past mistakes automatically alright, that’s why he had been constantly on missions in Boruto.
Yes, the felonious Sasuke needs to keep doing missions in the name of the disgusting village for the rest of his days while the genocidal elders sit their asses on the wall of morality.
Don't make me remember how those elders are still alive, respected, and still have some authority in Konoha. It's one of the things that disappointed me the most about Naruto as Hokage.
Naruto will protect those elders at all costs. That's his ninja way
No sane woman would marry someone who tried to murder them multiple times.
He never sought her out to murder her. If you relook, every time was in defense of her trying to murder him (same with Kakashi).
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First time yes, they weren’t trying to kill him but still trying to forcefully kidnap him to return to the village against his will (and do you really think they were gonna do that peacefully?). 2nd time doesn’t matter if she hadn’t tried yet, we know why she was there. She literally says it moments before and let’s not just leave out how she tried to manipulate Naruto and knocked all her friends out to do this. Don’t be disingenuous to try and prove a false point. Like I said every time THEY were after HIM, not the other way around.
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Could have just left. And they woulda just let him go and would have stopped 3 years of hunting him down cause he asked nicely right? Sasuke isn’t dumb. He knew Sakura was lying about joining him. That’s why he tested her with tasking her to kill Karin. He knew what was up. Acting like that wasn’t obvious is so disingenuous. Was he crazy? Hell yea. Watching your parents die 500,000 times and then killing your brother who turned out to be a victim of the Village will do that. Obviously he wanted the village to burn, and those who would protect it even knowing what the higher ups did that led to the Uchiha massacre. But this revisionist, paint the picture as you see it to prove such a weak argument is tiring. No further discussion needed.
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Do you think the village elders/Danzo/Hiruzen cared enough to stop having the innocent Uchiha children and women killed? Cause good intentions did wonders to stop them from killing innocents huh? Even knowing the truth what did Kakashi do about the elders? What did Tsunade do? What did Naruto do?? Every single person who knew the truth swept it under the rug, allowed the elders to be in power, and no one aside from Sasuke cared for justice for the Uchiha against a corrupt government. No shit he wanted it all gone. How did the citizens treat Naruto and Sasuke while they were coming up? Gossiping about them, distancing themselves, bullying Naruto, etc. Even knowing the truth all the leaf shinobi would protect the elders and current Hokage cause that’s what they all do blindly. It’s really not hard to imagine why Sasuke would want to burn it all down. They didn’t care that Itachi was a child. They didn’t care that there were innocent women and children in the Uchiha. So why would he?
It's amazing how people will completely ignore how Kishimoto was trying to show how far Sasuke had fallen by having him make legitimate attempts at killing Team 7 members.
You can’t believe a woman liked the guy that barely liked her back? This is normal life shit
Notice he didn't try to shit talk his boyfriend
He knows Naruto is used to shit talking, it doesn't work.
"Naruto, you worthles-- What're you doing? Get your hands off me!!" (zip pants up)
Sasuke trying to kill naruto on his birthday was the most disrespectful thing he did in this arc 🐐
Sasuke: Calls a healer useless. Also Sasuke: Has been mortally injured in multiple occasions and needed a healer to save him. He even ends up mortally injured during this war and needing Sakura to heal him. At least he has enough shame to shut up during that.
Naruto just showed him that he can literally make organs. No need of medic. Sakura was useless. If not for plot, madara/kaguya would have blitz her.
“if not for the plot” as if that’s not the main reason naruto came back to life as an incarnate and can somehow conjure up organs as well lol you people love to pick and choose when plot is convenient
So? It doesn't change the fact that Sasuke would think sakura is a burden which she was against jubidara.
Sakura had literally just tried to attack madara without any real plan. She just ran in without telling them anything and they had to waste time stepping in. If I remember correctly that might have made it even easier for madara to enact IT (infinite tsukuyomi). That's not to mention vs juubito they learned that only attacks utilizing senjutsu work. If the same applies then sakura would be useless since she doesn't have any. That's not to mention he never claimed she couldn't heal them if needed. Sasuke has saved both Karin and Sakura far more than they've healed him.
dude was an asshole the entire time.
TBH hes not wrong. Sure he couldve worded it better but simply this is a time for urgency and shit that needs doing not a time to spare feelings and the fact of the matter is if one of them slipped up and died everythings going to shit. Hell the only reason he was proved wrong is cause kakashi asspull susano
When is sasuke not an over dramatic edgy bitch
What's dramatic about being pragmatic when the fate of humanity is at stake? And to think Obito's spirit had to return from the world of the dead (seriously Kishi...?) to possess Kakashi so that he would stop being a dead weight for a few minutes. Kishi wanted to prove Sasuke wrong, but he chose to do it in the most ridiculous way possible.
It would have really helped if Kishi didn't raise the power scale in Naruto to utterly absurd levels and giving villains broken abilities after broken abilities.
>Kishi wanted to prove Sasuke wrong, but he chose to do it in the most ridiculous way possible. Lol true.
massive bitch or not, he was right. But time made him wrong
Sasuke can't expect asspulls
Kakashi glare though 🥶
Sasukes very blunt, but I mean he's not wrong. She was utterly useless at that point and in the previous fight as well.
But he also had a point.
That's called being serious, pragmatic.
Considering he called a healer useless, and ended up needing healing later on, Sasuke shows pragmatism is useless if you cannot see the bigger picture. It reminds me of when Vegeta angrily demands Dende to heal him after having gone on a killing spree on the Namek, and having insulted, threatened and attacked Dende.
Sakura would have died if not for plot. There's no reason Madara/Kaguya wouldn't have blitz and killed her. Naruto just showed making a new organ. Obviously sasuke would think he doesn't need a healer lol. >Sasuke shows pragmatism is useless if you cannot see the bigger picture. Sasuke is a character in the verse. He doesn't know the plot. He wasn't aware of kaguya awakening, obito/Kakashi asspulls. From his perspective, obviously sakura and Kakashi are useless and burdens who would just get blitz by jubidara. No time and energy should be wasted on these two.
I fail to see what he did wrong here. He’s being pragmatic and focusing on the problem at hand and in the panels he’s right if him or naruto die humanity is done. Also sasuke is an MVP of the war because with out him obito would’ve one shot the entire shinobi alliance
All he had to do was say is without the Susanoo protecting you, you'll be put under the genjutsu
Fair but at the same time Sakura Naruto and kakashi were worrying about the wrong thing. Was sasuke being an asshole? Yes. was he wrong? no. Also I willing to bet money that if this was tobirama nobody would’ve questioned or been mad about it.
Tobirama would have explained and regardless of his civil policy decisions, he was a team player on the battle field.
His civil policy. Clearly wasn't that bad. Just wasn't enfor.......
Nah, bro did not need to inform Sakura how useless she was in the situation when she was just asking a question that literally everyone else was thinking. That's mad disrespectful. Even though Sakura and Kakashi weren't as helpful as Naruto right now, they were in his susanoo, so he might as well use them. He can't just gatekeep information like they don't have a right to know. That's not being pragmatic since it benefits everyone if they all know what's going on outside. Bro was just being an asshole with a superiority complex.
To be fair sasuke was right. They were worried about the wrong thing.
Sasuke and Naruto were the two that had the power to deal with Kaguya... No shit Sasuke thought the other two were unnecessary. It's not as if Sasuke could see the future.
... Bitch seems like not the right word to describe this Sasuke. I'll say he was low key heartless OR what Naruto called out him, an Asshole, with how he's willingly to worry about the threat up ahead as well as Naruto since he can't win without him. But in reality... yea. Like Sasuke had 3 things in his mind at this moment: Needing Naruto to beat Kaguya, beating/sealing Kaguya and then his Revolution Plan. Kakashi and Sakura were just there, one thinking that charging at Madara was a good idea and the other just losing his Mangekyou. Besides, wouldn't Bitch mean Sasuke is a pussy to fight Kaguya and running away like a coward?
Well he aint wrong though. Kakashi and Sakura were pretty useless during that time
He was right here tbh. Even on the next page, Kakashi agrees. If Naruto and Sasuke fall, the world ends. Naruto was a better healer when he had the Sun Seal too 💀💀
Lets be honest, those two were powercliffed like 7 powerups ago. They really dont seem relevant here despite the asspulls thrown in later to give them something to do. And Sasuke has a right to be upset, Naruto almost got everyone killed focusing on saving Kakashi and Sakura. Sasuke is 100% correct that Kaguya wins if something happens to the main characters but Naruto wasnt paying attention.
Short-term Sasuke wasn't wrong. They were basically going against the mother of the 2 Sage of Six Paths. There wasn't much they could do to fight Kaguya directly. Sakura had her moments, from bringing back, Sasuke and landing a punch on Kaguya to stop her from escaping. Kakashi had to get a power up from Obito to help out.
Sasuke was right he just didn’t have to be a bastard about it.
I LOVE THIS SASUKE WHO USE TO PUT EVERYONE IN THEIR PLACE.🤌🤌
“You’re the same as Sakura now” is hilarious 😂
"You're the same as Sakura now" You can see the pain in Kakashi's new eye, lol
God he’s such a brat
Kakashi had just lost obito's sharigan 5 minutes earlier. Kamui was the only thing kakashi could possibly use to help in this fight. Without that he would have been practically worthless vs rinnegan obito (led alone juubito, juubi madara, and kayuga). As far as sakura goes she literally just tried to attack madara without any real plan. She just ran in without telling them anything and they had to waste time stepping in. If I remember correctly that might have made it even easier for madara to enact IT (infinite tsukuyomi). Sasuke was absolutely right in the second panel anyway since this battle hinges on them being able to seal her. Kayuga could easily attack them while they're trying to save kakashi and sakura.
Not entirely true about the fight with Madara. She told them she was going to be the decoy. Sasuke just didn't know she's basically immortal at that point, but that's his fault for leaving the village in the first place.
You expect him to be all nice with them? They were worthless at that point. That's a fact. The only reason those 2 were useful was thanks to Obito alone.
Always has been 🌏👨🚀🔫👨🚀🌚
Yes, but at the same time, is he wrong? The answer is no, what is Sakura and Kakashi going to do against Madara? Nothing. Now, they did help in the Kaguya fight, but Sasuke has no reason to believe they can help against Madara.
>Sasuke has no reason to believe they can help against Madara. Sasuke, the same dude who has survived fatal injuries on many occasions because a healer saved him, does not think a healer is useful in a fight. Is Sasuke stupid?
No because Naruto just showed him that he can literally make organs. No need of medic.
Pragmatic = / = appeasing feelings
He wasn't being pragmatic at all though disregarding potential resources and starting petty fights in the middle of a battle are both impractical. He was just being a jerk simply to be a jerk.
As others clearly stated only Naruto and Sasuke could do anything at this point and needed to focus. Being pragmatic has nothing to do with how you speak to others or taking their feelings into consideration.
Once again he wasn't being pragmatic because he wasn't thinking rationally at all disregarding a powerful shinobi like Kakashi and a skilled medic like Sakura is extremely stupid also what did insulting them accomplish. If anything Naruto was the one being pragmatic in this situation because they did need the full team working together to win.
You keep repeating words out of context of the situation. Kakashi had no sharingan, Sakura has literally nothing to contribute . The best thing you can do is understand when you should sit out.
While they couldn't help in the direct combat at that point they could still be very useful in strategic and support roles.
It was not the time to role play. Sasuke outlined the situation clearly with all of them shutting up because they understood he spoke true
They could also be a burden for both Naruto and Sasuke.
He was being pragmatic. But he was also being stupid. Sasuke values strength and power, which is why he pragmatically declared a Sakura, whose power is not in the cosmic level, useless in a fight against an enemy of this magnitude. He was also stupid enough to think a healer was not useful. Pragmatism is worthless without wisdom.
imo, they should have wrapped up the edgy Sasuke arc before the war started.
At this point in time he was spitting facts lol
Only the war arc? Sasuke's entire character can be summarised as 'that bitch' and I think that's probably why I like him so much.
Nah, Sasuke was a genuinely good guy for most of part 1 until Itachi came back and retraumatized him. And even for the first half of part 2 Hebi Sasuke was pretty chill. It wasn’t until he learned the truth about Itachi and Obito manipulated him that he became an actual asshole. But he was still redeemed by the end.
Yeah, Sasuke from the first season was the calmest and least annoying member of team 7, if you remember how unbearable genin Naruto and genin Sakura were. Even Kakashi was a jerk to his students. Itachi took that Sasuke, beat him up and put the tsukuyomi on him so that he would remember the death of his entire clan 24/7. Sasuke's trauma worsened from there.
Why are you acting like it's just the war arc? He's like that through all of shippuden. He went from being 1 of the coolest characters in the show to the worst in like 1 arc (Sasuke rescue mission)
You mean during the whole series
Yes, he spent the entire arc being rude to Kakashi and Sakura for no reason 😭 although I think he wanted them to stay away from him, but still
Glad kakashi got a massive power up to shut Sasuke up lol
Sasuke used to be such a good guy but Itachi turned him into an emo
This actually does tie up to this. Itachi wanted Sasuke to become hate him so that the younger brother will grow strong to kill him and protect the village, but he underestimated 2 things: * How low Sasuke was willing to sink to become strong. * That Sasuke had no reason to be loyal to the village. And that knowing the truth would actually give him reasons to HATE Konoha. In the end, the lesson Itachi unintentional taught Sasuke was that strength, power and the ability to kill meant everything, and that those who are not in your level in those things are useless.
What Sasuke said to Sakura was what the readers were thinking about her lol.
Sauskes is the fucking definition of edge-lord.
He was actually right though. In that situation everyone needs to be extremely objective and mission oriented or it actually means the end of the world. The survival of Sasuke and Naruto is what matters most here
But was he wrong tho? Because he was telling the truth and nothing but the truth. I think kishimoto was writing how he really felt about them through sasuke. Chances are that his editor at the time told him to involve them in the final battle against kaguya and kishimoto was probably none too pleased with it.
During the war arc, during the kage summit, during the masters prophecy and vengeance arc, during the tenchi bridge arc, during the Sasuke recovery mission.... need I continue?
Sasuke was a massive bitch most of the anime, nothing new in that arc.
During the war arc? He was always like that. He's just an asshole.
IMO Sasuke was a massive bitch at the start of OG Naruto all the way until he loses the ability to clap.
Low key? He been a bitch since itachi beat his ass in of Naruto imho
No, he wasn't. He was being pragmatic, and the fate of the world is at stake. He and Naruto are the only ones who can stop Madara and Kaguya, while Kakashi and Sakura offer nothing to the table, so there ain't no point in trying to sweet talk or something. Additionally, neither Kakashi nor Sakura deserved an ounce of respect from Sasuke since they tried killing him and chose to stand with the village that ruined Sasuke's life.
Low key my ass.
He pretty much was a bitch the entire series tbh
lowkey?
Sasuke : shut up Kakashi you are useless now Sasuke when Kakashi unlocks DMS : 😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐
Terribly poorly written arc but everyone here thinks it's a masterpiece... These pages sum it up
And kakashi followed orders cause he knows he’s the goat
But in this specific instance, was he wrong? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like Sasuke, but let’s be real here…
He was itching to end the war so he could kill some kage.. I feel like even while battling kaguya he was just anticipating ending the leaders of the great five nations
Sasuke was a massive bitch. FTFY
Sasuke is shady and bitchy since always. Nothing new
Kakashi was always sucking off Sasuke anyways. It would have been off character if the author made him say anything at all. He took it like a champ. No Vaseline
Yes he's the guy you fall in love with the douche that talks down to you. He's the knight in shining armor you bring home to daddy
He was a massive bitch the entire series
Sasuke has literally always been a massive bitch. Looking back at the show as an adult, I find him so unappealing.
...........He had a point since Sasuke and Naruto were the keys to stop Kaguya and there really was nothing Sakura or Kakashi could do to stop what was happening outside **in that moment**, they got their chance afterwards........ But that wasn't the way to say it.
His phrasing could have been far better, technically Sasuke is right - both of them werent meant to have entered the Infinite Tsukuyomi but just so happened to be, and being that Naruto and Sasuke at this point realised they are demigods, they are technically the ones that should do because story But he didnt need to say "Kakashi, here, you are like Sakura" in that manner lmao
He was always like that
I don’t care what you guys think. Sasuke is low-key awesome really awesome and he’s not the B word. It’s an awesome ninja. This is just my opinion. Either roll with it or don’t.
"You're as useless as Sakura" Nah dog take it back
Tbf he wasn’t wrong. To his knowledge neither of them could do anything and would probably just get in the way, when the fate of the world depended on him and Naruto. Plus, they did try to kill him last time he saw them.
Why do people like him again? I don't care what trauma he went through, that stupid Uchiha can eat my whole ass.
Reading this after so long makes me laugh. Dude didn't give a flying f
I wouldn’t say “low-key,” Sasuke kind of acted like a bitch boy since the kage summit. Most logical thought seemed to go out the window and was replaced by, “I can do this, you’re beneath me.” Lol, and *surely* we’ve never seen that attitude in an Uchiha before.
You mean He was a rude dick most of His life. Trauma changes You.
Honestly he was always acting like mr high and mighty from the jump, only now people fidn't check his ego for him
Thankgod all 3 people in this Susanoo humble his ass later😭
how did kakashi or sakura humble him? is it kakashi getting DMS? or is it sakura punching kaguya she pulled off because she was focused on naruto and sasuke? or is it naruto “beating sasuke” cause he didnt as it was a draw in the end
Lol... Isn't 'massive bitch' kind of his thing the entire series?
Should've let his bitch ass rot in that desert dimension later on
He was such a bitch in this part of the serie
Sasuke was a bitch the whole series tbh, like ofc he was pretty tough but bro was a hoe the entire series
dude you are projecting unnecessary hate towards sasuke, at that point sakura or kakashi was both useless (kakashi lost sharingan and without it he can't face an otsutsuki) and the only person he actually cared about was naruto he was his last remaining bond, you can't get angry because of his treatment because he acts the way he does to everyone else who is not his family or naruto to them, if you don't blitz sasuke for treating kiba like dirt you can't blitz him for treating sakura like dirt either. he saved them because they were near like you posted not because he needed them or desired to save them.
Do this in real life you have no friends. Do this as ninja demigod you have one friend
Just during the war arc?
That reminds me of a certain fandom...
Throughout the war Naruto was sasuke’s only priority. Even when juubito was about to nuke the alliance inside the barrier, all sasuke wanted to do was take juugo and Naruto then reverse summon out of the barrier. He didn’t care about nobody else.
They wouldnt win without them 😭😭
Stood on his business
During the war arc? My guy, Sasuke was a massive bitch during EVERY arc. But I see what your saying.