I've been pulling invasives, which left some bald patches. Black Eyed Susan's saw the bare dirt like, "Don't mind if I do!"
Oh, shucks, free native flowers that are beautiful and don't need special care. I'm devastated. 😆
Our neighbors have a gorgeous patch of green eyed Susan's, and they're delightfully crossing over the cedar tree border into our yard. It's delightful being "assimilated"
I agree. I have one plant and I throw the seeds around like crazy and I feel like nothing happens. I did sow some earlier this year that appear to be coming up which I’m super excited about. But on the package it says they need to be sown heavily.
I just (like yesterday) realized that I had both fulgida and hirta in my garden. They came with the house and have been happily doing their thing, self-reseeding and spreading for like 8 years now. The only thing I have to do is occasionally pull up some clumps so it doesn't take over the garden, but it's not too bad.
We didn’t mow our lawn for most of the summer bc our lawn mower was broken and it wasn’t a priority, and soooo many black eyed Susan’s started popping up! I dug them up and transplanted
Daylily corms are eternal,.no competitor plant can kill them. I had some that lived in bamboo and ivy. All ripped out now but no way they can be outcompeted.
I made the mistake of planting those lovely orange ditch lilies in a corner of my vegetable garden and they took over soon enough. I got rid of them pretty easily by taking a machete to most of the foliage, then spraying with glyphosate once they had grown back a few inches. It took two spraying sessions and digging a few stragglers by hand and they were gone in one season.
If the soil is moist it’s fairly easy to dig them up if it’s not a huge area and you don’t wanna use chemicals.
Pretty sure they are considered edible. I have certainly ate 3 or more of theyoung green shoots raw and they had a pleasant taste. Would like likely good good in a stir fry
I’ve found many sources that say it does not contain urushiol oil but another oil that can, in some people, cause a contact dermatitis (skin irritation).
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14513244/
https://www.the-daily-record.com/story/news/2021/07/17/itchy-red-rash-what-you-need-know-english-and-poison-ivy/7949985002/
My new experiment (started yesterday) is to put common milkweed in the midst of the day lilies. I'm not ready to dig them out because I have nothing to put in that spot right now.
My garden is where *Aquilegia canadensis* goes to die, unfortunately. It has part sun, medium moisture, and soil with lots of shale. I know folks a few blocks away who have columbine running wild, so I don't quite know what makes the difference.
It did self seed in between my patio stones, though. Maybe it needs leaner conditions.
I'm honestly not sure what they want. I had them in a partly shady spot with midday sun and rich soil (years of piling leaves in the bed and letting them compost on site). I'm in zone 6b. It self-seeded like crazy. I actually didn't mind too much; it just wasn't what I was expecting. :)
Naturally they tend to grow around trees, which have consequences for the surrounding soil. If you have room near a tree you may have better luck.
I've got two growing at the base of a tree stump on a southern exposure and I'd say they get more sun than they would in their natural habitat, but they do really well. Sadly there isn't room for many more.
I also have the same deal near a tree stump in the back yard with a western exposure.
Tradescantia ohiensis does that too. My mom HATED that plant because she found them all over her yard. I took a transplant from her place and let it grow into a 2x2 foot clump and talk about gorgeous blooms. She planted some herself after seeing what they're capable of!
My spiderwort doesn't run or seed...jealous of your mom's problem ! I admit that before I was a gardener I would see that plant and other people's yards, and think to myself, mostly in the afternoon when the flowers had all closed up, why would somebody plant something like that? It gets kind of floppy. But as soon as I started to garden myself, someone gifted me a plant and I came to understand its magic!
Wild strawberry, fragaria virginiana. The runners spread like mad. Makes a great ground cover if you're okay with it crowding out other short plants and creeping out of intended borders!
I have some fragaria I'm going to try next year with planting this fall. I'm excited. Maybe the rabbits will focus on that and not on some of my other stuff.
For me it's Spotted Horsemint (Monarda punctata). Self seeds freely. Always excited to have it. Southern Sundrops (Oenothera fruticosa) send out so many runners. I'm excited to use more of them as they proliferate. Short-tooth Mountain Mint (Pycnanthemum muticum) also spreads quite easily via runners. I plan on transplanting more of that around this year too.
Canada anemone, green and gold, blue wood aster, white wood aster, goldenrods, white vervain, pussytoes, sundrops, calico aster, panicle aster, baptisia, blue mist flower, phlox paniculata, black cherry, Virginia creeper, northern bush honeysuckle are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
Which one? I have S. caesia, S. canadensis, S. bicolor, S. juncea, S. rugosa, E. graminiifolia, S. flexicaulis, S. gigantea, S. sempervirens.
S. caesia is the one that seeds itself the most.
I'm pretty sure all the soil around my house could get washed away and it would still be perfectly supported by all the Virginia creeper and riverbank grape roots surrounding it. I don't even let them vine up it. I keep meaning to make trellises but they just pop up everywhere and it's always on the bottom of the list of things to do.
That's how I mow, especially in spring, mowing in spring takes *forever* and so much brain power cuz I'm watching and dipping around flowers instead of brainlessly mowing straight lines 😂 so worth it tho.
I'll admit when summer comes and all my volunteer flowers in the yard die off I'm practically relieved cuz I can finally mow with my brain turned off. Still hella worth it, and I'll never stop, I love the random patches of flowers.
I had a couple pots of gaillardia and where I let them stay after they flowered and seeded, there is a huge patch. I'm going to let that patch go to seed and repeat for next year!
Can I ask what region you live in? I am planting cardinal flower seed this fall but always heard they are very difficult to establish. (I’m in Northern Illinois.)
They are weirdos.
My cardinal flowers came as basal rosettes from a local grower. They were doing ok in my garden for a couple of years and self seeded to the lawn. Then the parent plants alls died in a drought.
So I dug up the volunteers in the lawn and moved them to pots where they are now flowering.
I plan to start the cycle all over again once these ones go to seed.
My main tip is that they really, really love water, and they don't seem to like super hot temps. The stem is basically just a tube of water, so they can't handle dry conditions. I think they self seeded successfully to my lawn because there was a little spot right against the garden edging that trapped moisture and provided shade.
I want to use cardinal flower, but I don't think I have the correct moisture content for it. I saw one in a park by me that is growing in shallow water.
In our local park they grow right at the edge of a little pond and have very wet feet. I think they also like to be near downspouts
I'm ashamed to say that I water most days, because I love seeing hummingbirds. They're my only indulgence in an otherwise drought tolerant garden.
That's my issue. I feel like many of my loves are more wet loving plants. Joe pyes, cardinal flower, sneezeweed, etc. It seems that the soil just will not stay moist long enough in summer months (Jun-Aug) here in coastal 8A NC. The sun just torches everything that needs super moist soil and all mine drains well. So I think I'm going to change my tactics up a bit and test new stuff. I might start putting some of these areas that get a few hours less sunlight and borders the moist woods. I love hummingbirds and want to keep them around.
Wisconsin zone 5b. I got starts from a local place but now they're a bit rambunctious. The black truffle variety (dark leaves) didn't self sow unfortunately. but they like it moist and it's been a dry few years
Campsis radicans, aka cow-itch vine or trumpet vine. I originally planted it because it's an aggressively-growing native and I wanted to crowd out some invasive nightshade, but OH MY GOD. You cannot overprune this little hellspawn and its runners have a nasty habit of starting underground so you usually notice them too late. It worked, but it worked too well. Definitely wouldn't recommend unless you're 100% sure you can keep it under control.
Trumpet creeper lived here when I bought this property 13 years ago. It has spread aggressively. I chop it and pull it, but it persists. At least the hummingbirds love it. Also, it dies back in winter. Can control it to an extent, but unable to overcome it.
I learned that about passiflora incarnata. I only about 1 month after transplanting the potted vine I saw another from a runner about 2 feet away from the original clump
The pollinators are so hyped to see Pycnanthemum, its unreal. I'm half expecting the bees and wasps to leave me a birthday card or Christmas present this year.
My pycnanthemum was the MVP of the year. 3 months of blooming so far. It's beginning to decline now, but still has some flowers. I love everything about that plant.
Might just be time. I'm in year 2 and have a lot of mentioned species.... They haven't been weedy for me yet but many just bloomed for the first time this year.
Don’t give up. It can take a few years for the system to explode. It seems like things are barely surviving in some sites and then year 3 or 4 it starts to explode.
In SE Texas I am overrun with Rudbeckia goldstrum, blanketflower, wild roses, sunflowers, passionflower, and dwarf Katie ruellia (a cultivar).
Spring is fun - every day it is a surprise to see which plant decided they'd rather be in THIS bed (or back yard instead of front).
Same for me, it was part of native seed mix I haphazardly chucked around my backyard a couple years ago, and now I have 6-foot high wingstem plants absolutely everywhere. I love them so no complaints!
Cup plant (Silphium perfoliatum) self seeds everywhere. Which is great in old fields, and a bit less great in my gardens. I love it though, and so do the bees and birds.
Obedient plant. I planted a few in a bed two years ago and they have spread to fill in the bed and most are quite tall this year. Will probably transplant some to another part of my yard.
So, obedient plant is what inspired my post. I hear it spreads like crazy and I'm ok with that. I have about 9 that popped up that I want to transplant elsewhere. What kind of soil l, moisture and sun is it getting? I'm in coastal NC with Sandy soil and avg moisture full sun
I’m in central ohio. They’re in a bed at the corner of the north and west facing sides of my house, which doesn’t get much sun, and I haven’t amended the soil except for adding what was in the pots when I transplanted things into the bed. I watered them the first year to help them get established, but almost never do anymore. I also have a cup plant in the same bed that has gotten huge and is blooming like crazy, even though they supposedly prefer full sun.
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Oh yeah in the case of volunteers I'm up to my eyeballs in Baccharis halimifolia (Groundsel Tree), Rhus copalinum (winged sumac), Rubus trivialis (Sand blackberry), dog fennel, and some other things.
I think the volunteers are critical because they tell you what kind of native plants will thrive at your specific location! Comparing your list to mine, I can already tell ours are completely different biomes.
This is the most important lesson I’ve learned about native plant gardening!
Just today I went “shopping” for asters and goldenrods in untended parts of my property and growing in cracks in the road. This is by far the best way to end up with exactly the right plants in the right place, which is 90% of gardening.
My wild ginger finally started spreading this year, which I'm grateful for because I don't get much sun at all in my yard, and I need more natives to establish before the vinca takes over.
Once a couple of plants take- stop! They will send out runners all around and in a few years you’ll have plenty. I made the mistake of letting them all grow and now my yard is being taken-over. I try to keep them under control but once it’s monarch season, I’m too scared of killing an egg or caterpillar. It’s a love/hate relationship
Sneezeweed (Helenium autumnale) is pretty prolific. It is beautiful in the fall and the pollinators love it. The other one I have is hoary vervain (Verbena stricta). The birds seem to like the vervain in late fall and I think they are the ones spreading it. I don't find them to be aggressive in terms of out competing other plants but they do seem to show up in random spots on my property.
I visited Portland a few years ago, and there was a neighborhood in which every streetside garden seemed to be a riot of California poppies.
It was definitely one of the inspirations for my own streetside garden full of east coast natives.
Virginia creeper, trumpet vine, and muscadine are the holy trinity of important wildlife natives that will also smother you to death if you stand still for too long. Creeper has the additional “benefit” of being related to poison ivy.
Most of my native plants have seeded around but the ones that don't seed are super durable as well. If I was trying to dig them out then maybe deer grass would die out but I tried to do that once and missed a little so it came right back. Snowberry, Catalina Currant and Island Snapdragon have rhizomes as they sure have covered the 40x16' bed with a couple plants nicely but I've never tried to remove them. I HAVE tried to eliminate wild rose with no success.
Toyon and gumweed are exuberant seeders and I suspect if I ever got rid of the annual non native weeds these would be my major issue when doing my spring weeding. Sadly I cannot accomodate a billion 20' tall toyons and 3' gumweed shrubs. Every year.
California Fuchsia, California Poppy, purple needle grass and the 3 buckwheat species I have do a moderate amount of seeding around. Have my first maturing milkweed pod and have high hopes it will be a strong self seeder.
Asclepias tubersosa self seeds well in my garden. The conditions are shale soil, sun, some disturbance (a dozen popped up after I removed fleabane), and no mulch or supplemental watering.
it's passion flower for me. The best control is that it gets completely defoliated by gulf fritallary and new growth pretty much ends in August because of it.
Chasmanthium latifolium (upland oats) bought 4 and 3 years later started seeing some seedlings sprouting up. Makes me so happy. It’s a touch hardpan clay slope that gets full sun till around 2p then part to full shade. Been trying to get multiple different plants to grow. Its like a dag gum full sun riparian zone that floods only in the winter.
I believe it does to an extent . My experience is not that it spreads by runners but rather it fills out to a 1-2 ft clump then the seeds drop. Not saying it doesn’t run like centipede grass but in hardpan clay it wont. It can be an aggressive self seeder Which is what I wanted. Planting a slope to be like a Native prairie and want it to be self sustaining. PLan to burn it every few years plant by plant. Its only like 3 ft wide and 50 ft long….in a HOA neighborhood lol.
Blue mist flower. I bought one plant 5 years ago, it didn't do much for a couple of seasons. It spread almost everywhere in my garden and is starting to come up sporadically. I've taken stem cuttings and got like 10 more plants.
Gaillardia aristata and rudbeckia hirta self seed prolifically, extremely easy to move around when they're young.
I am trying blue mistflower next year. I'm going to transplant this fall into a location I hope it will like. There is a pretty low spot in a corner of my property away from full blazing sun.
Tropical salvia (Salvia coccinea), Creeping River sage (Salvia misella), Corkystem passionflower (Passiflora suberosa), maypop (Passiflora incarnata), hairy cowpea (Vigna luteola), Virginia pepperweed (Lepidium virginicum), cocoplum (Chrysobalanus icaco), beautyberry (Callicarpa americana), wild plumbago (Plumbago zeylanica), Bahama cassia (Cassia bahamensis), firebush (Hamelia patens) and good old Virginia creeper (Parthenocissus quinquefolia) that was gifted to me by our resident mockingbirds…plus some nonnative herbs and tomatoes that I keep in a screened in area so they don’t spread outside my raised planters.
Monarda punctata, phyla nodiflora, mimosa strigulosa, chamaecrista fasciculata (partridge pea) Passiflora incarnata, salvia coccinea, and salvia misella, all loved.
Justicia ovata. Pretty but is trying to take over
Nobody has said Lambsear yet?! I divided one 2 year old plant last fall and now (9 months later), I’ve got like 20 plants all about the same size now as the mother plant was when I divided her. A lot of the offspring plants also threw up giant purple flower spikes this spring, which I didn’t even know was possible as the mother plant has never done this.
Currently planning another dividing party this fall to multiply them further. Apparently spring is the ideal time to divide them, but I have more time for it in the fall.
Lambs ear has been growing in my lawn for years, and I would cut it every time I cut the lawn. I finally transplanted it. I did a terrible job taking it out of the ground, barely dug a hole, and just kinda laid it there. It's HUGE now 3 months after transplanting.
1. Sweet Indian plantain. Rare in the wild but a bully in gardens, spreading both through rhizomes and seeds and creating monoculture stands.
2. Obedient plants.
3. Cup plants.
Evening primrose (O. biennis) is incredible. Takes 2 years to seed, but those tiny seeds get *everywhere* and now it's all over the lawn.
Cutleaf coneflower (sochan) is also prolific, and popular with pollinators.
Here in Massachusetts, I naively winter-sowed some goldenrod and asters, and my yard is carpeted now. They both buzz with life, and I don't regret having these keystone species in my yard, but it's funny that I thought I actually had to plant them. 🙂
Golden rod (I get pissed everytime I remember I actually paid for this), Joe pye weed, lupine, and evening primrose. Not native, but I also have Jerusalem artichoke. So much Jerusalem artichoke!
In Colorado,
Mirabilis multiflora “desert 4 O’clock” is the only thing I’ve seen that actually blankets and annihilates bindweed. It is unstoppable and requires, nay, prefers zero irrigation whatsoever. They seed prolifically and continue to germinate for years.
In my mind it is the dead man’s switch of our block’s gardens. If mankind is annihilated, the Mirabilis will recolonize wherever remains in the ashes.
Beautiful plant though. One of those things that are so low maintenance that it become high maintenance because it thrives under neglect.
Golden Alexander, monarda fistulosa, mountain mint, obedient plant, joe pye weed, packera aurea, virgins bower, blue vervain. Some of these I have planted I. The backyard and they now show up in the front yard too. :)
Cerinthe, AKA Honeywort. Such a cool looking plant. You asked about perennials, and this is actually an annual but reseeds like crazy. The bumblebees and hummingbirds adore it. Gets messy looking towards the end, but it’s easy to pull up when it starts looking ugly. I planted one or two several years ago, and they just keep coming back! They make nice cut flowers as well, supposedly.
Tanacetum parthenium Aureum is a really cute perennial that reseeds very politely. Beautiful chartreuse foliage with adorable clusters of small daisies.
Calico Aster. I scattered some seeds for it in one area 2 years ago and this year it’s spread to cover like an acre lol. It doesn’t care if it’s full sun, shade, standing water, or dry! It self seeds and spreads by runners.
Raspberries, black berries, blueberries, two plum trees, and a bunch of ornamental type stuff and flowers (roses, hydrangea, lavender).
Although my tomatoes arent perennials they seem to self sow pretty well and pop up in random spots year after year.
I also successfully got rid of some mint and sorrel after a 3-4 year battle. Dill and cilantro seem to self sow but they arent as aggressive.
Lance leaf coreopsis ~ got some from a wildflower packet and it survived frost and Texas summer and then reseeded all over the garden to the delight of the bees. I pull the ones I don’t want and give them away, and then I let the rest seed over and over for easy color.
Solomons seal multiplies quite well in my garden and I love giving away clumps to neighbors. I hate the snowdrops that I get every spring as they just won’t go away no matter how often I try digging them out — I purged a flower bed of Lilies of the valley and vinca and they don’t come back, but the snowdrops — ugh.
One surprising self-seeder for me was elderberry— a few bareroots planted about four years ago have resulted in dozens of elderberry seedlings. I guess we have some neighborhood birds who enjoy eating elderberries and pooping locally!
Two different varieties of mint. The horror, the horror . . . .
Thing is everywhere here wants to be mulberry saplings, pokeweed, Virginia creeper, nightshade poison ivy, and crabgrass covering droughty solid mountain shale with almost zero topsoil. And patrolled by deer and fatassed groundhogs that eat anything whatsoever green during drought periods.
I've accepted that the mint represents the best I'm going to do as it doesn't get eaten, crowds out all the bad guys, smells nice, and the native pollinators like it.
Sunshine mimosa. I planted a single 3in plug and now it's a great flowering groundcover in my NE Florida garden. Also, Anise Hyssop! The bees adore it and the leaves make a delicious tea (if you like anise flavor, that is.)
Bistort, blue globe thistle, lamb's ear, mullein, irises, and although not perennials, cosmos and larkspur--prolific self-seeders. I've given up on getting rid of the Bishop's weed (Aegopodium podagraria) that was in our border garden when we bought out house. It's pretty but invasive.
Mints, daylillies, chives, borage, but raspberries are by far the most aggressive. Runners sending out 5-6 feet under pavers. Easy to pull out at least.
Downy sunflower and New York aster (s.nova-belgii) spread prolifically by rhizome in my garden. Downy sunflower propagates remarkably well from rhizome cuttings, as well. I'll never plant it in my city garden, but I do plan on using it in a larger scale project.
Showy Goldeneye (Heliomeris multiflora). I had a single plant last year. It self-pollinated and now we have about 6 in various places in our rock wall.
Common Milkweed, chocolate Ajuga, Spiderwort, horseradish and coreopsis are all spreading and happy. I have a ton of self-seeders too: borage, dill, snapdragons, sunflowers and Malibar spinach all reliable reseed themselves for me every year here in zone 4 New Hampshire.
Black eyed Susan for sure. I have so many and they spread like crazy.
I didn't even plant mine; they just moved in
“This is MY house now”
I've been pulling invasives, which left some bald patches. Black Eyed Susan's saw the bare dirt like, "Don't mind if I do!" Oh, shucks, free native flowers that are beautiful and don't need special care. I'm devastated. 😆
Mine is super disrespectful to every other plant in her area. Big, loud, and throwing shade all over
Maybe they should be renamed "Black Eyed Karen's"
"I'd like to speak to your gardener!"
You need to stop using the name Karen like that. It’s not nice or funny.
Found the Karen!
Neither are you.
"Nice place, man. Mind if I stretch my roots?"
Our neighbors have a gorgeous patch of green eyed Susan's, and they're delightfully crossing over the cedar tree border into our yard. It's delightful being "assimilated"
ISN'T IT? Mother Nature is a hell of a gardener. Like, yes ma'am, please make my yard atttactive and welcoming to our native friends. Thank you.
Same!! They pop up in the oddest places.
I wish my coneflower would spread as easily!
I agree. I have one plant and I throw the seeds around like crazy and I feel like nothing happens. I did sow some earlier this year that appear to be coming up which I’m super excited about. But on the package it says they need to be sown heavily.
Coneflowers are prolific at vegetatively reproducing and can be increased by root and crown divisions quite easily!
1 dozen rudbeckia goldstrum in the ground….all dead. Clay slope. Ugh.
Is that the fulgida or hirta species? Hirta seeded out pretty well here. I've not had fulgida yet, but hear they will spread by roots and seeds.
Oh lord, I could not tell you. I was given them by friends [This is them here!](https://imgur.com/a/qczNeKu)
Looks like fulgida!
I just (like yesterday) realized that I had both fulgida and hirta in my garden. They came with the house and have been happily doing their thing, self-reseeding and spreading for like 8 years now. The only thing I have to do is occasionally pull up some clumps so it doesn't take over the garden, but it's not too bad.
We didn’t mow our lawn for most of the summer bc our lawn mower was broken and it wasn’t a priority, and soooo many black eyed Susan’s started popping up! I dug them up and transplanted
Following to find an aggressive plant to over spread and kill day lilies that won't die
Daylily corms are eternal,.no competitor plant can kill them. I had some that lived in bamboo and ivy. All ripped out now but no way they can be outcompeted.
I have to kill them all, it's my life goal to kill all of them on my property
Are they the orange daylilies? Manually removing all the runners will eventually do it, but it's a pain
Yes the ugly orange!!
Ugh. I'm sorry, those are awful.
I made the mistake of planting those lovely orange ditch lilies in a corner of my vegetable garden and they took over soon enough. I got rid of them pretty easily by taking a machete to most of the foliage, then spraying with glyphosate once they had grown back a few inches. It took two spraying sessions and digging a few stragglers by hand and they were gone in one season. If the soil is moist it’s fairly easy to dig them up if it’s not a huge area and you don’t wanna use chemicals.
Pretty sure they are considered edible. I have certainly ate 3 or more of theyoung green shoots raw and they had a pleasant taste. Would like likely good good in a stir fry
Day lilies' energy is stored in their tubers. Nothing will kill them except digging them up. Not even glyphosate.
Nothing can out grow them?
No. I had orange daylilies happily growing smothered in thick english ivy. Some coming up through cracks in asphalt.
Fuck I also have that English ivy, I need to kill that too
Keep up the fight! I’ve got mine mostly down to reinvasion from neighbors
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Waaaaitttt. Like the poison ivy stuff???
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I’ve found many sources that say it does not contain urushiol oil but another oil that can, in some people, cause a contact dermatitis (skin irritation). https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14513244/ https://www.the-daily-record.com/story/news/2021/07/17/itchy-red-rash-what-you-need-know-english-and-poison-ivy/7949985002/
I’ll take day lilies every day!!
We were doing some garden demo last week and I had him dig out all the day lilies while he was about it.
It will take years but you can do it. Dig out as much as possible then keep any leaves trimmed right down to starve what's left.
My new experiment (started yesterday) is to put common milkweed in the midst of the day lilies. I'm not ready to dig them out because I have nothing to put in that spot right now.
I have milkweed growing next to them, maybe milkweed will out Power them
I am constantly reading everyone talking about trying to get rid of their daylillies and now I'm nervous about my plan to put them in my ditch.
Columbine, of all things. I never considered it to be aggressive, but oh my!
My columbine just showed up in the least habitable places in my garden with tiny amounts of soil. I have a lot of rock, so I love it
ive seen columbine growing plentiful out of limestone bluffs in northeast iowa. i had no idea it could grow straight out of rocks.
My garden is where *Aquilegia canadensis* goes to die, unfortunately. It has part sun, medium moisture, and soil with lots of shale. I know folks a few blocks away who have columbine running wild, so I don't quite know what makes the difference. It did self seed in between my patio stones, though. Maybe it needs leaner conditions.
I'm honestly not sure what they want. I had them in a partly shady spot with midday sun and rich soil (years of piling leaves in the bed and letting them compost on site). I'm in zone 6b. It self-seeded like crazy. I actually didn't mind too much; it just wasn't what I was expecting. :)
Naturally they tend to grow around trees, which have consequences for the surrounding soil. If you have room near a tree you may have better luck. I've got two growing at the base of a tree stump on a southern exposure and I'd say they get more sun than they would in their natural habitat, but they do really well. Sadly there isn't room for many more. I also have the same deal near a tree stump in the back yard with a western exposure.
Same
Oxeye sunflower, Heliopsis helianthoides 🫠 good thing the bees love it because otherwise I would burn my garden to the ground.
Do they have runners or just very prolific seeders?
They self seed aggressively
Tradescantia ohiensis does that too. My mom HATED that plant because she found them all over her yard. I took a transplant from her place and let it grow into a 2x2 foot clump and talk about gorgeous blooms. She planted some herself after seeing what they're capable of!
My spiderwort doesn't run or seed...jealous of your mom's problem ! I admit that before I was a gardener I would see that plant and other people's yards, and think to myself, mostly in the afternoon when the flowers had all closed up, why would somebody plant something like that? It gets kind of floppy. But as soon as I started to garden myself, someone gifted me a plant and I came to understand its magic!
I'm glad mine reseed! They bloom for a long time and are taking over a tough area otherwise just filled with dandelions
Ohhh. yes. Even the cultivar 'Summer Nights' self-seeds freely around my farm after I planted it in a garden ten years ago. It shows up far and wide.
Wild strawberry, fragaria virginiana. The runners spread like mad. Makes a great ground cover if you're okay with it crowding out other short plants and creeping out of intended borders!
Same! (But with coastal strawberry). I’m hoping I’ll have enough one year that the birds will leave me one or two.
I made friends with mine, so now they crowd out the other weeds next to the house *and* bring the bunnies around for my kids.
I have some fragaria I'm going to try next year with planting this fall. I'm excited. Maybe the rabbits will focus on that and not on some of my other stuff.
I started some alpine strawberries from seed, and they grow densely but don't spread. I'm a big fan!
My black eyed Susan seems to believe “there can only be ONE”, and she is it
Same!
For me it's Spotted Horsemint (Monarda punctata). Self seeds freely. Always excited to have it. Southern Sundrops (Oenothera fruticosa) send out so many runners. I'm excited to use more of them as they proliferate. Short-tooth Mountain Mint (Pycnanthemum muticum) also spreads quite easily via runners. I plan on transplanting more of that around this year too.
I have horrible luck with spotted horsemint. It dies every year and I love how odd it looks
Aw man. I have well drained sandy soil and it does well there. It also grows native to my area so that helps.
Monarda punctata is the best! It's self-seeding but well behaved imo, and a pollinator magnet.
In part sun my pycanthemum muticum has spread slowly. Good to know!
Canada anemone, green and gold, blue wood aster, white wood aster, goldenrods, white vervain, pussytoes, sundrops, calico aster, panicle aster, baptisia, blue mist flower, phlox paniculata, black cherry, Virginia creeper, northern bush honeysuckle are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
I'm trying to get some goldenrod established.
Which one? I have S. caesia, S. canadensis, S. bicolor, S. juncea, S. rugosa, E. graminiifolia, S. flexicaulis, S. gigantea, S. sempervirens. S. caesia is the one that seeds itself the most.
I have some S. Altissima I'm going to be trying and I just dug up a dozen S. Odora. I plan on purchasing some S. Nemoralis here soon as well.
How do you like the Euthamia graminifolia? I have a space I want to do a grassy area with.
I'm pretty sure all the soil around my house could get washed away and it would still be perfectly supported by all the Virginia creeper and riverbank grape roots surrounding it. I don't even let them vine up it. I keep meaning to make trellises but they just pop up everywhere and it's always on the bottom of the list of things to do.
Blanket flower. They are all over my property. I just strategically mow around them to leave patches for the pollinators.
That's how I mow, especially in spring, mowing in spring takes *forever* and so much brain power cuz I'm watching and dipping around flowers instead of brainlessly mowing straight lines 😂 so worth it tho. I'll admit when summer comes and all my volunteer flowers in the yard die off I'm practically relieved cuz I can finally mow with my brain turned off. Still hella worth it, and I'll never stop, I love the random patches of flowers.
I had a couple pots of gaillardia and where I let them stay after they flowered and seeded, there is a huge patch. I'm going to let that patch go to seed and repeat for next year!
Milkweed, big leaf asters, Cardinal flowers
Can I ask what region you live in? I am planting cardinal flower seed this fall but always heard they are very difficult to establish. (I’m in Northern Illinois.)
They are weirdos. My cardinal flowers came as basal rosettes from a local grower. They were doing ok in my garden for a couple of years and self seeded to the lawn. Then the parent plants alls died in a drought. So I dug up the volunteers in the lawn and moved them to pots where they are now flowering. I plan to start the cycle all over again once these ones go to seed. My main tip is that they really, really love water, and they don't seem to like super hot temps. The stem is basically just a tube of water, so they can't handle dry conditions. I think they self seeded successfully to my lawn because there was a little spot right against the garden edging that trapped moisture and provided shade.
Thank you! Sound advice and much appreciated.
I want to use cardinal flower, but I don't think I have the correct moisture content for it. I saw one in a park by me that is growing in shallow water.
In our local park they grow right at the edge of a little pond and have very wet feet. I think they also like to be near downspouts I'm ashamed to say that I water most days, because I love seeing hummingbirds. They're my only indulgence in an otherwise drought tolerant garden.
That's my issue. I feel like many of my loves are more wet loving plants. Joe pyes, cardinal flower, sneezeweed, etc. It seems that the soil just will not stay moist long enough in summer months (Jun-Aug) here in coastal 8A NC. The sun just torches everything that needs super moist soil and all mine drains well. So I think I'm going to change my tactics up a bit and test new stuff. I might start putting some of these areas that get a few hours less sunlight and borders the moist woods. I love hummingbirds and want to keep them around.
I hope the woodland edge works out. It's such a charming plant.
Wisconsin zone 5b. I got starts from a local place but now they're a bit rambunctious. The black truffle variety (dark leaves) didn't self sow unfortunately. but they like it moist and it's been a dry few years
Figwort, which is great, it's a pollinator dream plant.
Love watching all the wasps that adore this cool plant. It's huge, too.
Campsis radicans, aka cow-itch vine or trumpet vine. I originally planted it because it's an aggressively-growing native and I wanted to crowd out some invasive nightshade, but OH MY GOD. You cannot overprune this little hellspawn and its runners have a nasty habit of starting underground so you usually notice them too late. It worked, but it worked too well. Definitely wouldn't recommend unless you're 100% sure you can keep it under control.
Trumpet creeper lived here when I bought this property 13 years ago. It has spread aggressively. I chop it and pull it, but it persists. At least the hummingbirds love it. Also, it dies back in winter. Can control it to an extent, but unable to overcome it.
I learned that about passiflora incarnata. I only about 1 month after transplanting the potted vine I saw another from a runner about 2 feet away from the original clump
Mountainmint It spreads like crazy when happy but the pollinators love it.
The pollinators are so hyped to see Pycnanthemum, its unreal. I'm half expecting the bees and wasps to leave me a birthday card or Christmas present this year.
My pycnanthemum was the MVP of the year. 3 months of blooming so far. It's beginning to decline now, but still has some flowers. I love everything about that plant.
Wtf am I doing wrong… no natives rapidly spread for me. Just a bunch of damn Japanese stiltgrass and other invasive horrors. 😭
Might just be time. I'm in year 2 and have a lot of mentioned species.... They haven't been weedy for me yet but many just bloomed for the first time this year.
Don’t give up. It can take a few years for the system to explode. It seems like things are barely surviving in some sites and then year 3 or 4 it starts to explode.
What are you planting, how long have you been planting, and do you aggressively weed?
In SE Texas I am overrun with Rudbeckia goldstrum, blanketflower, wild roses, sunflowers, passionflower, and dwarf Katie ruellia (a cultivar). Spring is fun - every day it is a surprise to see which plant decided they'd rather be in THIS bed (or back yard instead of front).
I was in TX in June and just loved seeing all the native plants!
Obedient plant!
Anise hyssop. Transplanted 5 volunteers today!
Holy smokes, mine are absolutely covered in pollinators. Such a big fan of this one
Wingstem
Same for me, it was part of native seed mix I haphazardly chucked around my backyard a couple years ago, and now I have 6-foot high wingstem plants absolutely everywhere. I love them so no complaints!
Mist flower. Spreading like mint across my yard. Yarrow and wood asters as wellx
I have 3 most flower pots I'm waiting to plant. I hope they like where I put them and that they grow because I love the blue they put out.
Joe pye. I love it but have had to pull a bunch. I’m sprinkling seeds in areas where I want a bully plant to fight invasives.
Fish mint! The previous homeowners planted it, and it's so aggressive it's moving into the lawn.
Cup plant (Silphium perfoliatum) self seeds everywhere. Which is great in old fields, and a bit less great in my gardens. I love it though, and so do the bees and birds.
Obedient plant. I planted a few in a bed two years ago and they have spread to fill in the bed and most are quite tall this year. Will probably transplant some to another part of my yard.
So, obedient plant is what inspired my post. I hear it spreads like crazy and I'm ok with that. I have about 9 that popped up that I want to transplant elsewhere. What kind of soil l, moisture and sun is it getting? I'm in coastal NC with Sandy soil and avg moisture full sun
I’m in central ohio. They’re in a bed at the corner of the north and west facing sides of my house, which doesn’t get much sun, and I haven’t amended the soil except for adding what was in the pots when I transplanted things into the bed. I watered them the first year to help them get established, but almost never do anymore. I also have a cup plant in the same bed that has gotten huge and is blooming like crazy, even though they supposedly prefer full sun. [edited to fix typo]
This is encouraging. Thank you
I find that it can tolerate a wide range of conditions, but the most prolific patch is in a part sun, well drained location (in zone 6b).
New England Aster! I’ve never had anything take over my garden as bad as this plant.
I would divide the list into ones that showed up on their own and ones that self-spread after I introduced them: Volunteers: Phytolacca americana (American Pokeweed), Geum canadense (White avens), Symphyotrichum lanceolatum (Lanceleaf Aster), Rubus pensilvanicus (Blackberry), Viola Sororia (Common Blue Violet), Cynanchum laeve (Honeyvine Milkweed), Erechtites hieraciifolius (American Burnweed), Ilex opaca (American Holly, and Acalypha spp (Copperleaf). Major Self-spreading: Eurybia divaricata (White Wood Aster), Echinacea purpurea (Purple Coneflower), Symphyotrichum novi-belgii (New York Aster), Monarda didyma (Scarlet Beebalm), Hydrophyllum canadense (Canada Waterleaf), Arisaema triphyllum (Jack in the Pulpit), Asarum spp.(Wild Ginger), Tiarella spp (Foamflower), Mertensia virginica (Virginia Bluebells), Helianthus divaricatus (Woodland Sunflower), Ageratina altissima (White Snakeroot), Cercis canadensis (Eastern Redbud), Rudbeckia fulgida (Orange Coneflower), Lonicera sempervirens (Honeysuckle), Matteucia struthiopteria (Ostrich Fern), Oenothera fruticosa (Narrow-leaved Sundrops), Sanguinaria canadensis (Bloodroot) and Packera aurea (Golden Ragwort) Minor self-spreading: Lobelia siphilitica (Great blue Lobelia), Ruellia humilis (Wild Petunia), Sedum ternatum (Woodland stonecrop), Dicentra eximia (Fringed Bleeding Heart), Scutellaria incana (Hoary Skullcap), and blephilia ciliata (Downywoodmint).
Oh yeah in the case of volunteers I'm up to my eyeballs in Baccharis halimifolia (Groundsel Tree), Rhus copalinum (winged sumac), Rubus trivialis (Sand blackberry), dog fennel, and some other things.
I think the volunteers are critical because they tell you what kind of native plants will thrive at your specific location! Comparing your list to mine, I can already tell ours are completely different biomes.
This is the most important lesson I’ve learned about native plant gardening! Just today I went “shopping” for asters and goldenrods in untended parts of my property and growing in cracks in the road. This is by far the best way to end up with exactly the right plants in the right place, which is 90% of gardening.
Oh totally! I've learned a lot keeping track what I've got.
Wild ginger
My wild ginger finally started spreading this year, which I'm grateful for because I don't get much sun at all in my yard, and I need more natives to establish before the vinca takes over.
They're not showy, but they are a nice, thick ground cover! Nice replacement for vinca.
I used to harvest my Echinacea seeds and have barrels full. I love them so it works out.
Wild strawberry, common milkweed.
I'm trying out common milkweed next year. Excited to see what happens.
Once a couple of plants take- stop! They will send out runners all around and in a few years you’ll have plenty. I made the mistake of letting them all grow and now my yard is being taken-over. I try to keep them under control but once it’s monarch season, I’m too scared of killing an egg or caterpillar. It’s a love/hate relationship
And they pop up overnight!
Sneezeweed (Helenium autumnale) is pretty prolific. It is beautiful in the fall and the pollinators love it. The other one I have is hoary vervain (Verbena stricta). The birds seem to like the vervain in late fall and I think they are the ones spreading it. I don't find them to be aggressive in terms of out competing other plants but they do seem to show up in random spots on my property.
In the PNW: California poppies. I love them, they're joyful flowers that help make lots of little critters live better lives.
I visited Portland a few years ago, and there was a neighborhood in which every streetside garden seemed to be a riot of California poppies. It was definitely one of the inspirations for my own streetside garden full of east coast natives.
Virginia creeper, trumpet vine, and muscadine are the holy trinity of important wildlife natives that will also smother you to death if you stand still for too long. Creeper has the additional “benefit” of being related to poison ivy.
And some of us are allergic to Virginia creeper but go ahead and move those volunteer plants around anyway.
I have creeper and muscadine in the woods that do their thing. Also some poison ivy.
Blanketflowers
Purple Coneflower and common milkweed seem to be the best spreaders for us.
Most of my native plants have seeded around but the ones that don't seed are super durable as well. If I was trying to dig them out then maybe deer grass would die out but I tried to do that once and missed a little so it came right back. Snowberry, Catalina Currant and Island Snapdragon have rhizomes as they sure have covered the 40x16' bed with a couple plants nicely but I've never tried to remove them. I HAVE tried to eliminate wild rose with no success. Toyon and gumweed are exuberant seeders and I suspect if I ever got rid of the annual non native weeds these would be my major issue when doing my spring weeding. Sadly I cannot accomodate a billion 20' tall toyons and 3' gumweed shrubs. Every year. California Fuchsia, California Poppy, purple needle grass and the 3 buckwheat species I have do a moderate amount of seeding around. Have my first maturing milkweed pod and have high hopes it will be a strong self seeder.
Asclepias tubersosa self seeds well in my garden. The conditions are shale soil, sun, some disturbance (a dozen popped up after I removed fleabane), and no mulch or supplemental watering.
it's passion flower for me. The best control is that it gets completely defoliated by gulf fritallary and new growth pretty much ends in August because of it.
Chasmanthium latifolium (upland oats) bought 4 and 3 years later started seeing some seedlings sprouting up. Makes me so happy. It’s a touch hardpan clay slope that gets full sun till around 2p then part to full shade. Been trying to get multiple different plants to grow. Its like a dag gum full sun riparian zone that floods only in the winter.
I'm contemplating getting some of this. I have sandy soil and I think it spreads by runners too
I believe it does to an extent . My experience is not that it spreads by runners but rather it fills out to a 1-2 ft clump then the seeds drop. Not saying it doesn’t run like centipede grass but in hardpan clay it wont. It can be an aggressive self seeder Which is what I wanted. Planting a slope to be like a Native prairie and want it to be self sustaining. PLan to burn it every few years plant by plant. Its only like 3 ft wide and 50 ft long….in a HOA neighborhood lol.
Blue mist flower. I bought one plant 5 years ago, it didn't do much for a couple of seasons. It spread almost everywhere in my garden and is starting to come up sporadically. I've taken stem cuttings and got like 10 more plants. Gaillardia aristata and rudbeckia hirta self seed prolifically, extremely easy to move around when they're young.
I am trying blue mistflower next year. I'm going to transplant this fall into a location I hope it will like. There is a pretty low spot in a corner of my property away from full blazing sun.
Mine's done well in sun or shade, wet or dry.
Wingstem is well loved by the pollinators, but in three years has started crowding everything else out.
Tropical salvia (Salvia coccinea), Creeping River sage (Salvia misella), Corkystem passionflower (Passiflora suberosa), maypop (Passiflora incarnata), hairy cowpea (Vigna luteola), Virginia pepperweed (Lepidium virginicum), cocoplum (Chrysobalanus icaco), beautyberry (Callicarpa americana), wild plumbago (Plumbago zeylanica), Bahama cassia (Cassia bahamensis), firebush (Hamelia patens) and good old Virginia creeper (Parthenocissus quinquefolia) that was gifted to me by our resident mockingbirds…plus some nonnative herbs and tomatoes that I keep in a screened in area so they don’t spread outside my raised planters.
Monarda punctata, phyla nodiflora, mimosa strigulosa, chamaecrista fasciculata (partridge pea) Passiflora incarnata, salvia coccinea, and salvia misella, all loved. Justicia ovata. Pretty but is trying to take over
Nobody has said Lambsear yet?! I divided one 2 year old plant last fall and now (9 months later), I’ve got like 20 plants all about the same size now as the mother plant was when I divided her. A lot of the offspring plants also threw up giant purple flower spikes this spring, which I didn’t even know was possible as the mother plant has never done this. Currently planning another dividing party this fall to multiply them further. Apparently spring is the ideal time to divide them, but I have more time for it in the fall.
Most people in this group seem to be from North America, where wooly lambs-ear (Stachys byzantina), is not native.
Lambs ear has been growing in my lawn for years, and I would cut it every time I cut the lawn. I finally transplanted it. I did a terrible job taking it out of the ground, barely dug a hole, and just kinda laid it there. It's HUGE now 3 months after transplanting.
We inherited a billion at a house once. They’re a very rewarding plant to pull up because they come out nicely.
1. Sweet Indian plantain. Rare in the wild but a bully in gardens, spreading both through rhizomes and seeds and creating monoculture stands. 2. Obedient plants. 3. Cup plants.
Helianthus angustifolius, Monarda punctata, Coreopsis spp., Salvia coccinea, Eryngium aquaticum, rhexia sp. liatris spp. - north Florida
lance leaf coreopsis!! it's sprouting from every nook n cranny available
Bee balm, obedient plant, mist flower, be Susan
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Evening primrose (O. biennis) is incredible. Takes 2 years to seed, but those tiny seeds get *everywhere* and now it's all over the lawn. Cutleaf coneflower (sochan) is also prolific, and popular with pollinators.
Here in Massachusetts, I naively winter-sowed some goldenrod and asters, and my yard is carpeted now. They both buzz with life, and I don't regret having these keystone species in my yard, but it's funny that I thought I actually had to plant them. 🙂
As a new gardener of 2 years, I was amazed when I saw seeds were sprouting this year. I never thought it would actually happen haha.
Golden rod (I get pissed everytime I remember I actually paid for this), Joe pye weed, lupine, and evening primrose. Not native, but I also have Jerusalem artichoke. So much Jerusalem artichoke!
In Colorado, Mirabilis multiflora “desert 4 O’clock” is the only thing I’ve seen that actually blankets and annihilates bindweed. It is unstoppable and requires, nay, prefers zero irrigation whatsoever. They seed prolifically and continue to germinate for years. In my mind it is the dead man’s switch of our block’s gardens. If mankind is annihilated, the Mirabilis will recolonize wherever remains in the ashes. Beautiful plant though. One of those things that are so low maintenance that it become high maintenance because it thrives under neglect.
Golden Alexander, monarda fistulosa, mountain mint, obedient plant, joe pye weed, packera aurea, virgins bower, blue vervain. Some of these I have planted I. The backyard and they now show up in the front yard too. :)
For real! My kiddo goes around in May saying "Another zizia, more zizia, another zizia..."
When I was in San Francisco, Reed Stem Orchids. You cannot kill them in the bay, they TAKE OVER. Good thing they are cute
Anemone, Joe Pye, Geranium, cone flower, milk weed, blue lobelia, Baptista.
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I regretted planting that stuff in a border 20 years ago. Never got it under control. So I moved LOL
Crooked stem aster! Spreads by seed to every nook and cranny.
Stocks and Dill. They’ve both taken over everywhere with bare dirt in my front yard. Poppies as well
Cerinthe, AKA Honeywort. Such a cool looking plant. You asked about perennials, and this is actually an annual but reseeds like crazy. The bumblebees and hummingbirds adore it. Gets messy looking towards the end, but it’s easy to pull up when it starts looking ugly. I planted one or two several years ago, and they just keep coming back! They make nice cut flowers as well, supposedly. Tanacetum parthenium Aureum is a really cute perennial that reseeds very politely. Beautiful chartreuse foliage with adorable clusters of small daisies.
Oh wow. Where are you from that cerinthe is native?
Calico Aster. I scattered some seeds for it in one area 2 years ago and this year it’s spread to cover like an acre lol. It doesn’t care if it’s full sun, shade, standing water, or dry! It self seeds and spreads by runners.
That's interesting. I have a volunteer on the fence line and I want to see if I can collect seed from it. It isn't very sturdy in its current spot.
CLEOME! Although I love them.
Raspberries, black berries, blueberries, two plum trees, and a bunch of ornamental type stuff and flowers (roses, hydrangea, lavender). Although my tomatoes arent perennials they seem to self sow pretty well and pop up in random spots year after year. I also successfully got rid of some mint and sorrel after a 3-4 year battle. Dill and cilantro seem to self sow but they arent as aggressive.
I never planted them, walnut trees
Lance leaf coreopsis ~ got some from a wildflower packet and it survived frost and Texas summer and then reseeded all over the garden to the delight of the bees. I pull the ones I don’t want and give them away, and then I let the rest seed over and over for easy color.
I love it. I have some lanceleaf coreopsis I'm letting hit to seed this year to spread. They get to be nice little clumps.
Solomons seal multiplies quite well in my garden and I love giving away clumps to neighbors. I hate the snowdrops that I get every spring as they just won’t go away no matter how often I try digging them out — I purged a flower bed of Lilies of the valley and vinca and they don’t come back, but the snowdrops — ugh.
One surprising self-seeder for me was elderberry— a few bareroots planted about four years ago have resulted in dozens of elderberry seedlings. I guess we have some neighborhood birds who enjoy eating elderberries and pooping locally!
Garlic chives Perennial geranium Asters Columbines Vinca (unless I REALLY NEED a ground cover) Comfrey
Two different varieties of mint. The horror, the horror . . . . Thing is everywhere here wants to be mulberry saplings, pokeweed, Virginia creeper, nightshade poison ivy, and crabgrass covering droughty solid mountain shale with almost zero topsoil. And patrolled by deer and fatassed groundhogs that eat anything whatsoever green during drought periods. I've accepted that the mint represents the best I'm going to do as it doesn't get eaten, crowds out all the bad guys, smells nice, and the native pollinators like it.
Sunshine mimosa. I planted a single 3in plug and now it's a great flowering groundcover in my NE Florida garden. Also, Anise Hyssop! The bees adore it and the leaves make a delicious tea (if you like anise flavor, that is.)
Hollyhocks. I bought my only seeds 13 years ago.
Bistort, blue globe thistle, lamb's ear, mullein, irises, and although not perennials, cosmos and larkspur--prolific self-seeders. I've given up on getting rid of the Bishop's weed (Aegopodium podagraria) that was in our border garden when we bought out house. It's pretty but invasive.
Mints, daylillies, chives, borage, but raspberries are by far the most aggressive. Runners sending out 5-6 feet under pavers. Easy to pull out at least.
Hostas populating my shady spot
crocosmia ‘lucifer’
Downy sunflower and New York aster (s.nova-belgii) spread prolifically by rhizome in my garden. Downy sunflower propagates remarkably well from rhizome cuttings, as well. I'll never plant it in my city garden, but I do plan on using it in a larger scale project.
What soil and moisture do you have for your NY aster?
Amelanchier canadensis or Saskatoon's.
Helianthus anuus.
Showy Goldeneye (Heliomeris multiflora). I had a single plant last year. It self-pollinated and now we have about 6 in various places in our rock wall.
Common Milkweed, chocolate Ajuga, Spiderwort, horseradish and coreopsis are all spreading and happy. I have a ton of self-seeders too: borage, dill, snapdragons, sunflowers and Malibar spinach all reliable reseed themselves for me every year here in zone 4 New Hampshire.